Rick Peterson to be fired by Mets, lets get him!!!
by gldsndz on Jun 16, 2008 4:46 PM PDT
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Why not hire Rick Peterson to right the Zito ship?
Rick Peterson was Zito's coach in Oakland during his best years. I think he could really hep Barry right his ship. Someone needs to get this kid's brain straight. And since he just lost his job, he's available. But would he want to come on for this assignment, what are his job prospects if he fails?
Do you think we should hire him as a personal coach to Barry Zito?
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First?
I don’t know the fascination with this but i’ll throw my hat in..
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Jun 16, 2008 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry too much about it
It’s similar to the people who think ‘epic fail’ is clever… one either appreciates it or the explanation kills the joy.
It might be explained as a slightly immature and ostentatious public display of too much time on one’s hands… but that might ruin it for you and alienate the ‘firsters’ for me.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I have been known to enjoy the occasional epic fail or your jib, I like the cut of it
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Jun 16, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orally?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2008 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a thought...
How about Zito pay for Peterson out of his own pocket since he’s the holder of a 126 million dollar contract..
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Jun 16, 2008 4:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds good to me.
In fact, I think Zito should forfeit his entire salary so we can sign all of our draft picks, and so we can make a bunch of signings in Latin America.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 16, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell
Zito giving up half of his salary would GIVE us half of the Latin ballplayers.
it's always noonan somewhere
by sectionop92 on Jun 16, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+126 , 000 , 000
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Zito sucks because Zito sucks...
not because rags isn’t coaching him right…
by boonitez on Jun 16, 2008 4:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
hard for Rags to help Zito when he doesn’t help anyone. Rags is useless.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 16, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proof?
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Jun 16, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WRONG!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I’m at work.
Possibly more to come on this later.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on
There’s no way you “work”
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 16, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait
Wondering how in the hell Righetti is useful for anything. Unless walking out to calm down the pitcher AFTER he’s given up the go-ahead 3 run homer is the sign of a good pitching coach, then I’m all ears.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 16, 2008 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so what you’re saying is that Righetti should have walked out to the mound before and said, “err, don’t give up a go ahead 3 run homer.” Man, you’re right. Righetti is a fool!!
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by rxmeister on Jun 16, 2008 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
It would be nice if Righetti went out there at the first sign of trouble. Instead of waiting forever to go out there, or not going out at all.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 16, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know what is trouble without the gift of hindsight?
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by marcello on Jun 16, 2008 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
You usually think you can, but you can’t.
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by marcello on Jun 16, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont’t you think that’s a joint decision? Besides, Molina should be the one jogging (or waddling…) out to the mound to calm down the pitcher. If a pitching coach goes to the mound at the first sign, one visit to the mound is used, and you can’t use it to warm up a pitcher, or break up a hit parade.
by tyrannoman on Jun 16, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
it’s a joint decision, probably.
But not just does he hardly talk to his pitchers on the mound, what kind of impact does he have with the pitchers at all?
How is it that so many of these guys we have pitch through here have the same problems every year and never seem to really improve. Also when is the last time Righetti (if ever) rejuvenated someone’s career like a Don Cooper, Leo Mazzone, or Dave Duncan?
by Hobbes2d on Jun 16, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Schmidt. He was a faliure in Pittsburg. He didn’t have enough time in Atlanta to really tell. I just don’t think Rags is part of the problem, and it seems to me like he has to know a lot about pitching to have been as good as he was.
by tyrannoman on Jun 16, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy it.
Schmidt was dealing leading up to his trade and just never slowed down until he got hurt.
by kaliber on Jun 16, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will admit that I do this as well, but I do think it’s funny how we all cherry pick info to prove our point. Schmidt had a history of underperforming and being injured before he was a Giant.
by tyrannoman on Jun 16, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My post wasn't a knock on Rags
I just meant that I didn’t buy that Righetti fixed him, because Schmidt was already on the road to becoming the pitcher he was for the Giants before he got here.
by kaliber on Jun 17, 2008 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with all this comes down to “where do you draw the line?”
What successes can you attribute to a pitching coach, and which failures can you dismiss as unavoidable?
An example of a success you might not have much luck attributing to Rags would be Lincecum, who has remained relatively untouched since college. An example of a failure you might not have much luck attributing to Rags would be Lowry, who has had two of the freakest freak injuries in freaktown.
But what is the middle ground you tread where you give credit to a coach? Cain (success)? Schmidt (sucess)? Benitez (failure)? Munter (failure)?
That’s what makes this difficult.
I fall on the side that the coach can (perhaps shouldn’t, but can) be held accountable in some small part for each case that isn’t clearly independent of coaching. Lincecum has been clearly independent of Giants coaching. The organization has said as much publically. Lowry’s problems have been clearly independent of coaching.
But Cain? There’s no clear line with Cain. You almost have to give Righetti some amount of credit. Yabu? There’s no clear line. Schmidt? Same. Give him credit. Munter? There’s no clear line. Call that one a failure. And so on.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh
How can you give Righetti credit for Cain?
Cain was one of the best prospects in all of baseball at 19 years old. He was in AAA at age 20, and led the league in K’s, over 19 year old phenom Felix Hernandez.
Cain was good, independent of Righetti who if anything still hasn’t helped him at all when it comes to his inconsistent growing pains of being a young power pitcher.
Benitez was a failure anyway.
Schmidt as it had been pointed out had always shown signs of being good in Pittsburgh, he just couldn’t stay healthy. Put him on a good team, in a spacious ballpark, and he was awesome. He also seemed to develop his changeup, I guess maybe that could be attributed to Rags, but also maybe not. As he threw a lot more breaking balls in Pittsburgh.
I guess my problem is with some of the more acclaimed pitching coaches, you often see improvement with young pitchers and veterans or bullpen pitchers turned into quality starters/performers who previously hadn’t been any good. The Giants seem to get a consistent level of the same kind of production out of mostly everyone every year.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 17, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
You want improvement from young pitchers (Joe Nathan, Brian Wilson, Jack Taschner, Jonathan Sanchez, Kevin Correia) and veterans (Jason Schmidt [yes, he had shown signs of being good but he HADN’T until he came to San Francisco and even then it took him a season to become the dominant force he was for two yars)? You want bullpen pitchers turned into quality performers who previously hadn’t been any good (Yabu, Eyre)?
I think all of that stuff is there to see. You just haven’t been looking hard enough.
Only 901 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jun 17, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot Sanchez, who seems to have made that bullpen/starter change quite well…
by tyrannoman on Jun 17, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But Sanchez had been a starter in the minors and I already included Sanchez in the first category so I didn’t want to mention him twice.
Only 901 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jun 17, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you often see improvement with young pitchers and veterans or bullpen pitchers turned into quality starters/performers who previously hadn’t been any good.
That’s just doesn’t seem true, though. How often do you really see that?
Besides which, that’s completely ignoring all of the career years that Giants got out of roming bullpen arms over the last six or seven years. Hermanson, Worrell, Herges, Brower, Christiansen, Eyre, Chulk, Taschner… the list goes on. Even Munter before he fell apart. How much of that is natural relief pitching variability and how much is coaching? It certainly seems to happen frequently enough on this team.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I think is happening here?
Reputation is happening. A guy like Leo Mazzone gets a sterling reputation for being a miracle worker and people look and go “Oh yeah! Look at what Glavine does with his mediocre stuff and look at how Damian Moss fell apart after he left Atlanta and look at how his bullpens always were so good during the nineties.
Nevermind how Steve Avery fell apart under his watch and never mind Millwood’s inconsistancies and certainly don’t talk about Mazzone in Baltimore.
When someone has a reputation, it influences thinking. And then when a fan looks at his/her own team and doesn’t see spectacular successes (sometimes even when they are there) then they tend to look at their own coaches, who don’t have sterling reputations, and rip them to shreds because they want someone with a sterling reputation.
Or that is how it seems at least.
Only 901 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jun 17, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I could care less if we had someone with a better reputation. I just think maybe a new pitching coach would be nice. The guy has been here for YEARS. When that happens you tend to maybe overrate his effectiveness, especially if you’ve had success, which in the Giants case is especially true.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 17, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean you couldn’t care less
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by Goofus on Jun 17, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you just want someone new
That’s the only qualification you want? And the only reason you want him gone is because he’s been here for years?
That’s quite an arguement there.
Only 901 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jun 17, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides which, that’s completely ignoring all of the career years that Giants got out of roming bullpen arms over the last six or seven years. Hermanson, Worrell, Herges, Brower, Christiansen, Eyre, Chulk, Taschner… the list goes on. Even Munter before he fell apart. How much of that is natural relief pitching variability and how much is coaching? It certainly seems to happen frequently enough on this team.
Career years? HAHAHAHAHA.
Christiansen’s best year as a Giant was when he was acquired in a MID-SEASON TRADE. Do you really think that when he arrived Righetti was like oh here change this, and he suddenly became better? No. And is that why he sucked for the remainder of his career in SF? Yes, he got hurt, but he wasn’t good otherwise.
Matt Herges had already been a semi decent reliever when he was acquired, and what do you know, his best numbers as a Giant were the year he was ACQUIRED midseason.
Same thing for Dustin Hermanson. Best numbers with the Giants the year he was ACQUIRED midseason via trade. His best numbers were in 2005 with the World Champion White Sox.
Tim Worrell had already resurrected his own career with the Cubs in 2000. And briefly did it again in 2005 with Arizona.
Eyre if I remember correctly had trouble with asthma , and the Giants training staff helped him through it.
Brower’s numbers were pretty similar to what he had already done in his career prior to getting to SF.
Same can be said of Vinnie Chulk.
Taschner was already pretty good, in the minors, and other than 2006 has always performed pretty well.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 17, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did a quick baseball-reference, and sure enough my example fu is not strong. Herges, Brower, Christiansen (I think…), and Hermanson all fell under the wicked rule of Felipe Alou and his arm jello-ing ways, but I’m not going to push that point in any meaningful way because if I started looking for reasons to completely excuse the guys who are bad examples, then I have to accept reasons to completely ignore the guys who are good examples.
But yeah… bad examples on my part with those guys. And to tell the truth, looking at it in this light, if there is one area where Righetti hasn’t much visible success it’s been with the bullpen. I don’t accept your rationale that Chulk and Taschner were always pretty good when they were in fact, at best, completely unproven, and I’ll throw Yabu into the discussion (again) as well off the top of my head (and maybe Correia and Hennessey, pre-weight loss) – which is to say that there has been some successes in the bullpen, but that it’s probably evened out over time.
That said, Rags has had far more success with the starting rotation than he’s had otherwise. Just in the last few years he squeezed a good half year out of Ortiz, we saw Lowry, Sanchez, Correia, Cain. Jamey Wright and Matt Morris were failures (though Morris was perhaps more an inevitability).
But I’ll submit about the bullpen to an extent. We haven’t had nearly as much success out of the bullpen as I’ve been making it sound.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We also got a couple really good months out of Jamey Wright. He ended up falling apart later in the year, but he was solid through like the end of May of whatever year he was here.
And if you say “Yeah, but he fell apart so he’s not impressive,” I counter with “He’s Jamey Wright. Getting one good start out of him is beating the odds.”
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by groug on Jun 18, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A failure in Pittsburg? Well, that’s probably because he was trying to get to Antioch.
Oh Pittsburgh….
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 16, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, how do you even prove that going out there even helps?
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by marcello on Jun 16, 2008 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me...
Or is there more to being a pitching coach than walking out to the mound? Because if that’s all there is to it, I think I can do this!
Me: Hey, you just walked a guy, so I thought I’d be proactive and come out here to calm you down.
Pitcher: Nah, I’m fine. That last pitch just got away from me.
Me: Well, you’d probably know better than me, since I’ve never pitched. Just don’t do it again, okay?
Pitcher: Whatever.
Me: I’m glad we had this talk.
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by JRPhillips on Jun 16, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true.
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by marcello on Jun 16, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It always surprises me when people complain about the pitching on this team. Yeah, our coaching must really suck to have developed Cain, Sanchez, and Correia. Our pitching must suck to get the best out of guys like Yabu, Walker, Chulk (prior to tobaccee arm), Taschner, and Wilson. Our coaching must have sucked in the past to have had a part in Schmidt, and to have gotten the most out of guys like Lowry, Hermanson, Brower, Herges (don’t forget how effective he was for a while), Worrell, Christianson, another fine half a season from a completely washed up Ortiz, and so on.
Yeah, this coaching is completely incompetent. Many of those guys had the best seasons of their careers as Giants. But I’m sure that has nothing to do with the coaching.
I’m not going to leave a blind eye to the failures. Obviously, there have been plenty. Moss? Blech. Munter? Blach. Morris? Feh.
But this team has had more successes than failures, it seems to me, during the time that Rags has been here. But no… good pitching has nothing to do with coaching, does it?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 17, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I especially love the explaining away of Schmidt's improvement
He had already shown signs of being good. Yeah. But so had Victor Zambrano and Oliver Perez and Brandon McCarthy and…the list could go on and on. People show signs of being good all the time. That’s why they are in professional baseball. It takes something more to actually be good. Often that something more comes about due to good coaching unlocking something in the player. Sometimes that good coaching even comes from Giants coaches.
Jason Schmidt had promise. But he never realized that promise until he was traded here and worked with Dave Righetti. He had a decent 2002. But sometime between 2002 and 2003 Jason Schmidt unlocked his potential in a spectacular fashion. How much of that was Righetti and how much was Schmidt? We really don’t know. But to simply dismiss Righetti when the improvement came directly under his watch is simply astounding to me.
Only 901 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on Jun 17, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, if I have to credit Rags for helping with Schmidt…then I can’t say he sucks…wait…what was I saying? Oh yeah, Rags couldn’t turn Damien Moss into an ace, therefore he sucks.
by tyrannoman on Jun 17, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i feel bad for zito... at least he never hurt the halos
but now he’s not hurting anyone.. he’s helpin em. i support zito and all he does, and i wish you guys luck. hopefully this guy will magically turn him into lincecum
by lightup_thehalo on Jun 16, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing he ain't
is Xeifrank.
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a compliment, lightup
In case you were wondering.
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by groug on Jun 16, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know
I kinda miss that creepy bugger.
BROCK BOND LIKES HIS MARTINIS PUNCHED IN THE FACE, NOT STIRRED.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 16, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That comment has a 100% likelihood of being correct
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 16, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
100 point what, though? I’m not satisfied without the nearest hundredth.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2008 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
That comment has a 83.304% likelihood of the Dodgers winning.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Jun 17, 2008 3:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
It’s not like anything else is likely to work.
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by groug on Jun 16, 2008 5:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty much
actually I have a better suggestion. Hire Lincecum’s dad to make Zito adopt Sandy Koufax’s pitching motion. It will increase his velocity, and put his curve to good use.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 16, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
try a new coach for each start
till zito is good or hurts himself
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by Azmanz on Jun 16, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1 billion
We absolutely should hire Chris Lincecum as a minor league roving instructor
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 16, 2008 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rather than hire Chris Lincecum as a pitching coach, we should have him impregnate a bunch of women, and move them to a secret island. We should then sign all the boys when they turn 18.
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by rxmeister on Jun 16, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just steal sperm from
Bonds, Mays, McCovey, Marichal, and any other HOF athlete we can find? And then produce these genetically enhanced 16 year olds and sign them up?
by Hobbes2d on Jun 16, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The likes of which even a one armed Gohan couldn’t strike out?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOSE
two words: Koby Clemens
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 16, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could be a solid investment
Considering we already spent 126 million, the money we would spend for Peterson is nothing compared to the possible gain of Zito not sucking.
by CardinalAce on Jun 16, 2008 5:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How about we just stop paying Zito?
Screw the legality of it.
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by ChrisHero on Jun 16, 2008 5:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can he make Zito throw 89mph again? I think we could dig up the corpse of the greatest pitching coach ever and let him work with Zito, and it wouldn’t help.
(The corpse would be reanimated and able to coach pitchers)
by xanthan on Jun 16, 2008 6:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the parenthetical. It was a really crazy suggestion otherwise, but you totally redeemed yourself!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 16, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While we're at it...
Can we give him retractable admantium claws too, just for fun?
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by Goofus on Jun 17, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JUST TRY TO CHARGE THE MOUND, BUB
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 17, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peterson sure fixed Victor Zambrano, didn’t he?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 16, 2008 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Rick Peterson was such a great pitching coach, the Mets wouldn’t be firing him. And if he was so great with Barry Zito, he would have protected him better and he wouldn’t have lost his fastball at the age of 28. Mark Mulder has broken down as well. Yeah, Peterson’s a genius.
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by rxmeister on Jun 16, 2008 6:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BS to the comment that he wouldn’t be fired if he was a better pitching coach. Lots of very good to great managers, hitting coaches, and pitching coaches have been fired for a variety of reasons. More than anything this points to the disfunction in the Mets’ front office.
BTW, why does Peterson care about Zito and Mulder’s performence after they leave his care? His job is to get the most out of a given player for HIS TEAM (at the time the A’s), and screw the rest. He may care about them as people, but to paraphrase Armando, he did his job.
by tyrannoman on Jun 16, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to be the voice of reason...
...which is why I rarely am, but….
Like every single type of instructor in every single context ever, different people respond better to different coaches. Schmidt thinks he really got a lot from Rags, who strikes me as the sort of “good old boys,” type of coach that Jim Bouton always mocked. Zito’s supposed to be “overly analytical,” and Peterson is known for having a very cerebral approach to coaching (shit, or is that Dave Duncan? Or both? I should do some research. Intern, come!), so that could be a better match.
Or, as some people have posited, the overall effect of good versus bad coaching is negligible and the Big Zit might just be a better guitarist than pitcher. And he’s not a very good guitarist.
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by multiphasic on Jun 16, 2008 7:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rick Peterson NOT fired
It would be really nice if people would cite their #$%^@ sources before posting hearsay. This was an unsubstantiated rumor that has been quashed.
So please put a link in your message before we write 42 comments about nothing.
/rant
by cakes on Jun 16, 2008 7:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well, shit. We got all worked up over nothing. I’d seen the rumor this morning, and didn’t bother to double check when I saw this thread.
by tyrannoman on Jun 16, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“You got somethin’ against nothin’, buddy?”
yeah, well, the whole world stinks, francine -- so get used to it!
by satyricrash on Jun 16, 2008 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peterson, Randolph and the 1st base coach FIRED
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ak8hxNZOvH0snyLGJNHrBlk5nYcB?slug=ap-mets-randolphfired&prov=ap&type=lgns
by m34josh on Jun 17, 2008 1:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d certainly be open to bringing him in to help Zito, but i’m not sure i’d want him as pitching coach. I’d imagine he’ll be looking for a job someone in that role though & so the chances of him coming here in a role are very slim.
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by GiantFan on Jun 17, 2008 5:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Our boy Hank Schulman with SFGate writes reuniting Zito with old coach makes sense.
Zito declined to comment on the idea of hiring Peterson. In fact, Zito did not even know the Mets had fired him.However, when asked what type of relationship they had, Zito noted that as far back as college, he and his family hired Peterson for private coaching. When the A’s drafted Zito, Peterson was their pitching coach.
“I had success from the start there in Oakland,” Zito said. “There’s a lot to be said for your first coach in the big leagues, too. He moved me on the mound and did something also with my hands, stuff like that, stuff I still do today.”
by wilriv21 on Jun 18, 2008 12:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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