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Adding Depth?

Is it just me or does Sabean not believe in adding depth?  I was going over the signings today and a name that I had forgotten jumped up at me.  The Braves recently signed Jorge Julio to a minor league deal.

 

Julio is not the same guy as before, we all know that, however he still has a pretty live fastball and can strikeout a whole bunch of guys still.  I understand that we have a lot of guys down in Triple-A, but I'm sure Julio would be better than at least one of them. 

 

This has also been something that I have noticed Sabes has not done too much of...the whole minor league deal thing to add depth.  Why?

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they should try adding good first

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by jasomack on Jun 13, 2008 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t fault Sabes for that.

by WTF on Jun 13, 2008 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Jorge Julio is Armando Beniez with a few more ticks of velocity.

by xanthan on Jun 13, 2008 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

But he has 99 CAREER SAVES!!!111

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by Natto on Jun 13, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was about to make this post.

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by groug on Jun 13, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those who are slow to post? Let them eat toast.

by Moggeee on Jun 14, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

..

do we need more pitching? I guess I don’t know a ton about the minor league teams, but it seems to me that this organization is literally overflowing with young arms. I could be 10000% wrong on that, though.

by bondslegend on Jun 13, 2008 6:01 PM PDT reply actions  

You obviously haven’t seen our literal flow lately.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm literally overflowing with gratitude

...that Sabean hasn’t done anything useless like that so far.

/stops to mop up the overflow/

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by Lyle on Jun 14, 2008 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean, how Sabean signed Yabu to a minor league deal in this offseason, or Russ Ortiz last offseason? Yeah, he never does that.

I have set Dave Roberts free; if he comes back, it was meant to be.

by hometownboy on Jun 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

hometown: this is true and I did not overlook those 2 however, thats what…1? I see multiple teams adding guys to simply see if they can re-gain their stuff or not. Most of the time not, but sometimes they turn out good.

Another point that I have is that when Barry zito got demoted to the pen this season, what was the reason that he came back for himself? If you recall, the issue was not having a pitcher to pitch that game somewhere down the line. If we had proper depth, he would have missed that start and somebody else would have done it. Rather than him starting in place of himself.

these are just thoughts and me noticing things. The one thing that i give him credit for this season is the draft.

by Scronjsn on Jun 13, 2008 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

1) The Giants upper minor leagues are already overloaded with project-type pitcher (especially relievers), the team is going to have some trouble finding room for mid-season promotions, let alone bringing in even more old vets.

2) What would the Giants do with a guy like Julio? The bullpen is already loaded with a combination of “project players” and young guys who need innings. Julio would just be another Tyler Walker, stealing opportunities from guys who actually have a future with the team

3) Zito returned because Correia got injured.

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by Bhaakon on Jun 13, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weren’t guys like Stanton , Fassero and Herges examples of taking flyers on guys like that?

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by Goofus on Jun 14, 2008 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not Stanton

We traded that kid who pitched a no-hitter in the WBC for him.

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by groug on Jun 14, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shairon!

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by RougeGorrila on Jun 14, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do realize that we have an overload of arms. I am merely stating an observation. Also this post was not just a cry for the services of Jorge Julio. It is also for position players that i feel we failed to sign. i.e Jorge Cantu, Dallas McPherson, various others.

also, this has to do with me loving to give and take chances. but then thats a whole different story and tale.

by Scronjsn on Jun 13, 2008 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree about Cantu and McPherson

but those guys were offseason acquisitions, not in-season. In-season dumpster diving rarely pays dividends.

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by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really

Isn’t adding Jorge Julio just a countdown until he goes into nuclear meltdown mode? He’s much more meant for the Mets or Phillies than us.

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by sectionop92 on Jun 14, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kept trying to look up Jorge Julio's stats

but I keep ending up on Tyler Walker’s BBRef page.

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by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only way I want Jorge Julio is if you hold a gun to my head and say “Jorge Julio or Armando Benitez.”

I’ll pick Jorge Julio because I’ll smile thinking “99 CAREER SAVES!!!!!1un.” Really, though. He’s awful.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 15, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depth for what? Ze Germans???

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s you. It’s not Sabes fault you weren’t paying attention over the Winter, when he signed Fortunato, Yabu, Sanderson, and Keven Gryboski – as well as Foppert, altho I can’t remember precisely when he was resigned.

by allfrank on Jun 14, 2008 12:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting that a team supposedly so deep in pitching signs so many project relievers.

Just saying.

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by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can never have too much pitching.

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by Natto on Jun 14, 2008 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's an urban myth

Spread by the conspiracy of doctors Jobe and Andrews.

In truth, you only need three pitchers to handle an entire season’s workload. So long as they’re built like bulls.

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by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is, they say the opposite about bulls.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

bulls need to be built like pitchers?

by WTF on Jun 14, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Something like that.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants also brought Scott Williamson to spring training this year. I really thought that one was going to work out.

by StickRat on Jun 14, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot all about him.

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