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OT: Beer!

(This ones for you PacBellBoozer!)

Hi, my name is xanthan and I really like beer.

Stouts, Ales, dark and malty, or golden and hoppy, I love beer. Nothing better than drinking a great -- but expensive -- beer and watching a ball game. I can't remember what the name is, but I got a really nice IPA last year at Mays Field and I'm looking forward to getting another when I fly out to SF in a couple of weeks to catch some Gigantes games.

The great thing about beer is that there are so many styles. That sort of exploration is fun. So, what kind of beers do you guys like? I'm no beer snob, I enjoy the finer stuff but it's also nice to drink a can of PBR on a blistering day. Let's hear it, whaddya drinking?

I just got home from the beer store today. Here's my haul.

Beer1gh8_medium

 From L/R:

Laguintas Pale Ale [never had it, i enjoy IPAs]
Bell's Java Stout [i like stouts, i like coffee]
Bell's Two Hearted Ale [I've heard great things about this beer, I'm excited to try it]
Unibroue Ephemere [an apple beer, looked interesting. I've had their Maudite and it was very good]
Oskar Blues Tinfidy [an imperial stout, love imperials and I love Oskar's stuff]
Acme IPA [Never heard of the brewery but like I said, I enjoy IPAs]

And some old faithul

Beer2vd7_medium

I love Oskar Blues' stuff, especially this scotch ale.

Beer3ve1_medium

I will drink you.


 


 


 

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Yay beer

My favorite beer beverage is a black-and-tan using Guiness and Bass. I’m told beer purests think this is sacrilidge, but eff ‘em I like it.

Nice to see a pic of you Xanthan. You look even more dickish than I’d imagined. :-P

2008 Giants: Scrappy! Scrappy! Joy! Joy!

by Goofus on Jun 13, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually like black and tans made with Guinness and Bass.

Nice to see a pic of you Xanthan. You look even more dickish than I’d imagined. :-P

Says the man dressed like Ali G, aiiight. Respec’

by xanthan on Jun 13, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Black and Tans.
Sankebites are also delicious. Best to use Strongbow as the cider.

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jun 13, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anchor Steam – (SF Classic)
Red Hook

"Candlestick made me a man." - Will Clark

by MeSoKrabby on Jun 13, 2008 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I keep trying because it seems like a ridiculous reason to dismiss a beer I’ve never had, but every time I drink a beer that has the word “Red” in its name, I don’t like it. I don’t necessarily not like it, but so far without fail, they either fall under neutral or negative.

I have had Red Hook. I give it a neutral.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you a raving anti-communist?

Is it just red-associated beer that makes you feel neutral/negative or all red-associated foods?

If I were you, I’d be worried.

"Candlestick made me a man." - Will Clark

by MeSoKrabby on Jun 13, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am i Communist? I love Red Hook ESB, Killian’s Red and Red Tail Ale.

I don’t know the words to the internationale, and my copy of Mao’s little red book keeps my bookshelf from wobbling.

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jun 13, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Cream of the Crop, IMHO:

Boont Amber by the wonderful folks at the Anderson Valley Brewing Company. Has the highest VORB (Value Over Replacement Beer) of any ale I’ve tasted.

Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.

by Kitspool on Jun 13, 2008 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Quite Good....but

Guinness or Pilsener Urquell.

Pedro Feliz would look great in Dodger Blue.

by irwin on Jun 13, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s Urkle.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I rarely drink beer. My favorite used to be Bridgeport Coho Pacific, but I don’t think they make it anymore. Every now and again I’ll pop for a Guinness, but I usually drink bourbon.

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 13, 2008 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll be keeping my eye on your drink to make sure it's Bourbon and not just Whiskey

From Wikipedia(So, it could all be a lie)

On 4 May 1964, the U.S. Congress recognized Bourbon Whiskey as a "distinctive product of the United States,” creating the Federal Standards of Identity for Bourbon. Federal regulations now stipulate that Bourbon must meet these requirements:

Bourbon must be made of a grain mixture that is at least 51% corn.[1]
Bourbon must be distilled to no more than 160 (U.S.) proof (80% alcohol by volume).
Bourbon must be 100% natural (nothing other than water added to the mixture).
Bourbon must be aged in new, American, charred oak barrels.[1]
Bourbon which meets the above requirements and has been aged for a minimum of two years, may (but is not required to) be called Straight Bourbon.[2]
Bourbon aged for a period less than four years must be labelled with the duration of its aging.
In practice, almost all bourbons marketed today are made from more than two-thirds corn, have been aged at least four years, and do qualify as “straight bourbon”—with or without the “straight bourbon” label. The exceptions are inexpensive commodity brands of bourbon aged only three years and pre-mixed cocktails made with bourbon aged the minimum two years.

Oh, the “Straight Bourbon” jokes to be made….

"Candlestick made me a man." - Will Clark

by MeSoKrabby on Jun 13, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice, I like Bourbon and I’ve been getting into scotch over the last 2 years. I’m actually an 80-year-old man trapped in a 25-year-old’s body.

by xanthan on Jun 13, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude…I hear you on the 80-year-old thing. I’ve taken up Gin as my spirit of choice. Talk about something that’ll put your face in a pucker!

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 13, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh… gin is sickening.

But not in the sense that it makes you sick. Never been sick on gin.

Rum can screw off, though. I’ve had some awful rum hangovers.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Gin and Tonics but thats about as far as I’ve been with gin.

by xanthan on Jun 14, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ramones.

Tanqueray and tonic’s my favorite drink
I don’t like anything colored pink
That just stinks…it’s not for me

Except that ruby red grapefruit juice/gin is not bad , not bad at all.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2008 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Try Rye Whiskey

Mmmm good. Especially in a sazerac.

Pedro Feliz would look great in Dodger Blue.

by irwin on Jun 13, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Finally a topic I know something about

For I have made many a mediocre homebrew in the past. I now prefer drinking the craft beers that are readily available. There are a couple great brewpubs in Northern California that one should not drive past without sampling. Sudwerks in Davis makes great German style lagers and pretty good food. If you are on the I-80 corridor, pick up some beer there because it is hard to find in the City. Also, 21st Amendment near the ballpark makes some damn fine ales, but I don’t think you can take it home. Anderson Valley does brew a lot of really good beers, as does New Belgium out of Colorado. There is a ton of small brewery production that was simply not present 25 years ago, so there is a bounty to sample from for suds lovers.

by out machine on Jun 13, 2008 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I mostly drink beer of the root variety. Barq’s, A&W, Mug, it’s all good. When I do drink other beer, it’s usually Heineken or Tsingtao.

Everybody Loves Durham
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by Natto on Jun 13, 2008 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Qingdao is delicious despite it’s counter-revolutionary adherence to the Wade-Giles romanisation system.

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jun 13, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmm... Wade-Giles

I have set Dave Roberts free; if he comes back, it was meant to be.

by hometownboy on Jun 13, 2008 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the billboard that said “It’s pronounced 青島”.

Everybody Loves Durham
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by Natto on Jun 13, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just listed the first three that came to my mind. I like me some Dad’s as well.

Everybody Loves Durham
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by Natto on Jun 13, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go to ANY Carl's Jr...

...and tell them you want Barq’s.

Even though it’s on their menu they won’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2008 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a Sailor, and I like this topic.

I went to Brussels in the December. I am a huge fan of Belgian beers. I would post some pictures but I’m in the Middle East and the Air Force bans me from doing anything fun on the internet. Oh and from drinking tasty beers.
I had Affligem Rouge (a red Trippel, about 8.5% I believe), it’s by the same company that does Postel… and Wieckse is my new favorite White (or witbier) – I’m a big fan of Belgian White’s. Affligem’s blonde is also amazing.
Has anyone had a Grand Cru? Hoegaarden makes a great one.

Bengie Molina: stretching doubles into singles since 1998.

by jasomack on Jun 13, 2008 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Anchor Steam

Of the names mentioned, I love Anchor Steam the way I love the Giants, except if the Giants were run really, really competently by the bastard stepchild of Dick Tidrow and Branch Rickey. It was the first decent local beer I ever drank. UC police once made me pour out a whole six pack I bought with a super-fake ID at 18. My roommates and I used to stock our kegerator with it, though we especially favored the Porter. Keg Anchor is a little better than the bottled stuff; keg Porter is a lot better (no idea why). Their Christmas ale is always fun. Liberty is a nice treat. The barley wine is okay, but not the greatest. In the end, though, I always come back to the flagship beer. Go to Costco, buy a $25 case, and stick it in a cool corner in the garage. That way, you don’t run out.

Acme I don’t like. Perhaps your experience will differ.

by wcw on Jun 13, 2008 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's my favorite, ignore the pint glass

Running Down the Wing
Hear United Sing
Viva Ronaldo

by ChrisHero on Jun 13, 2008 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

That beer looks like motor oil…

Excellent.

by xanthan on Jun 13, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Olde Suffolk

...never drank it, but I did grow up about 15 minutes from the brewery.

[Greene King also brew Abbot Ale, which is a very tasty strongish ale.]

Anyone out there enjoy Caffrey’s? I find it particularly dangerous, because they slide down so easily and before you know it you realize you’ve had 7 and still have to drive home.

Guinness in Dublin is also an entirely different experience…. (I’m in the group that think its sacreligous to put anything in it… – but might give a Black & Tan a try one of these days).

by aGIANTfan on Jun 13, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

No…you’re right…a Black & Tan IS sacreligous.
It’s for sissy boys who can’t handle the dark stuff.

The only thing worse than a Black & Tan is any Mexican beer that requires a lime. Come on people…your beer is not complete if you must add something else to it before drinking!

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 13, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love Anchor Porter but...

Recently moved to Eugene OR and have found that Rogue makes a Morimoto Soba Ale that is simply epic. If you have the means I highly recomend it. It is so choice.

I am Cameron Wood and this is my son and business partner CW Culberson.

by camwoody on Jun 13, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Rogue makes great stuff, I’m a fan of the chocolate stout they make. Great stuff.

by xanthan on Jun 13, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you ever head over the mountains to Bend, go to Deschutes Brewery. They should have a fairly good selection in the stores in Eugene though too.

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 13, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rogue

they make some of the the best beer I’ve tasted. The Soba Ale and chocolate stout are awesome. I’m a big fan of the Chipotle Ale they make. Kinda weird, but the smokiness really works

by stress on Jun 15, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmm... beer

[wipes away drool]

My favorites are probably some of the Anderson Valley and Mendocino County ales. I recently moved to the east coast (DC), and I haven’t found any comparable local (or near-local) brews.

by neurofarm on Jun 13, 2008 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Now that you’re on the east coast, look out for Troegs. A fantastic brewery that makes dynamite beer. Based out of PA so you should be able to find it in most good beer stores on the east coast.

by xanthan on Jun 13, 2008 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

See my list below and try the doughnut beer. I’ll gladly send you some cash if you can find it and are willing to send some this way.

Oh, and be sure to pick up a copy of this sometime.. http://www.brewingnews.com/mid-atlantic/

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 13, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brickskeller is fun, even though it's all bottled.

Good place to chill out in DC for beer.

Asylum in Adams morgan has CHEAP high life on saturdays.

Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.

by Andy from DC on Jun 15, 2008 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not into beer, however, the two beers I do enjoy are Moosehead and Pacifico.

by wilriv21 on Jun 13, 2008 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s well documented that I love my chocolatey Guinness.

I find mexican beers extremely drinkable, but mostly as something to drink when I want a beer that’s better than water.

I had an Oyster Stout two years ago that was pretty unbelievable, but haven’t had a chance to have it since.

I don’t drink often enough to have a really diverse set list here, but when I do drink to enjoy beer, the key for me is pretty much always “dark, dark, dark.”

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2008 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I love dark mexican beers, Negra Modello is my favorite.

by xanthan on Jun 13, 2008 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s going on the Beerflix!

(Oh… if only….)

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 13, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOLY JESUS! That’s a damn good idea.

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 13, 2008 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love beer

one of my favorites that is only found in Southern California (as far as I know) is Karl Strauss Red Trolley Ale. I love a good red beer, Killian’s Irish Red is another good one that can be found anywhere (and Hank Greenwald did commercials for them when I was a kid which raises its stock immeasurably).

Anchor Steam is great too, especially at the ballpark

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is another standby. If you are ever in Chico you should make it a point to check out their brewery/restaurant, it’s a great place. Get the beer battered fish and chips, or the beer battered onion rings if you are not a fish person.

I also like to make it a point to check out one of the local beers whenever I travel somewhere.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 13, 2008 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Beer List

1. Newcastle
2. Guinness
3. Red Tail Ale
4. Negro Modello
5. Red Hook ESB
6. Pyramid Hefeweizen (really the only thing I like from Pyramid)
7. Blue Moon
8. Baotuquan (think Tsingtao but witheven more of a more refreshing mineral water flavor to it)
9. Boddington’s
10. Sudwerk’s Marzen

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jun 13, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Number 6, is that the Apricot Hefeweizen that Pyramid makes? If so, thats a great summer beer.

Boddingtons also gets a big thumbs up from me, so creamy and good.

by xanthan on Jun 13, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the apricot stuff okay, but the Pyramid straight Hef is fabulously tasty.

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jun 13, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to think so to

but then I tried the real thing. You need to find yourself some Franziskaner or Paulaner hefe.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 13, 2008 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might be right about Paulaner. Still, I’m quite fond of the Pyramid hefe, and since I used to work up the street from the Sac Pyramid brewery, I have a fondness for it that goes beyond the makeup of the beer itself.

Sudwerk’s Hef is not bad either.

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jun 14, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1 for Newcastle and Sudwerk’s Marzen.

Guinness though…Guinness should only be consumed when the better tasting Newcastle has ran out and the only other option is water!

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 13, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The extra stout is good

But I still don’t get the infatuation with regular Guiness.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 13, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s basically chocolate milk with a little alcohol in it. What’s not to like?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe that you've just confused Bailey's and Guinness

Guinness is more like stale, burnt coffee with alcohol.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I find Bailey’s to be just a little too sweet for my tastes.

No, I’m definitely thinking of delicious, smooth Guinness.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

have to agree on Bailey's

but something about Guinness, I don’t like. To me, it tastes watery. Like something that’s supposed to be carbonated, but went flat.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

It took me a while to come around on Guinness’s funny bubbles. I can see where you’re coming from. For me, that’s become part of the charm over time (I don’t see it as watery, but I do see why you might).

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

If You have ever tasted carbonated Guinness

You know that it’s not meant to be carbonated.

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jun 14, 2008 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

It has bubbles, no?

I don’t care whether it’s “meant” to be, it just tastes like a flat soda: missing something important.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does taste a bit watery for a heavy beer. I’ve never gotten the fascination with Guinness myself. Sure, it’s ok, but I would much prefer an ale, preferably strong and Belgian.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 14, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's bubbled with N2 as well as CO2

if you don’t like that, you suck, but to each his own

by wcw on Jun 14, 2008 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

When it's taken as a draught

that waterfall – inside – the – glass thing is fucking awesome.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2008 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any stout is good, but what Guiness gets right is the head. Many stouts have a coarse, whispy head (like Omar’s hair), while Guiness has that thick creme at the top that reminds me of a well tamped shot of espresso.

Also, for some reason Guiness tastes different on different continents. The American version is a little more acidic than the European and Asian versions.

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jun 14, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chico's Finest

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.

Done and Done.

I actually like the bottle better than draft.

Seeing how my list is somewhat short, anyone have any comp’s/recommendations for pale ale equivalents? I just don’t know enough about hoppiness, dark vs light, etc. . anyone have the nickel tour for the difference between ales, lagers, pale ales, IPA’s, etc. . I could look it up, but McCovens usually have the here a#$*x%x^ response thats short and sweet, condescending perhaps, but it adds to the flavor. . .

For WilltheThrill, this is Jon Miller saying goodnight. . . .

by WilltheThrill on Jun 13, 2008 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Not condescending but...

Lagers are the main beer around the world. Most of the crap beers (Bud, Coors, Miller, etc) in the US are lagers. There are some good to great lagers: TsingTao, Singha, PilsnerUrquel, Spaten, Stella, etc. Lagers tend to be lighter, crisper and less hoppy.

I don’t know the specific brewing differences between lagers and ales.

Stouts, porters, browns, reds, ambers, and pales are all ales. They chiefly differ in the way the malts are treated. I think (someone can correct me if I’m wrong) darker brews use more heavily roasted grains in their malts, thus affecting the color of the beer and the taste. Ambers, bitters, IPAs and pales are all types of pales. Ambers are a little darker. Bitters and IPAs are more bitter and hoppy. IPAs tend to be stronger in taste and alcohol content.

Sierra Nevada is routinely graded as one of the best craft beers in the world. I think due to this success, there is massive market of American microbrews that taste very similar to Sierra, though none can replace the original – IMO. If You want to try some other PAs similar, just about any American PA will be close. Some notables are Full Sail, Saranac, Pyramid. If You want to try other PAs that are distinctively there own, try the following: Anchor Liberty, Stone PA.

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jun 14, 2008 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wat's the difference

between a pale ale and an IPA?

Not that I really care, since I don’t care for either. Lets call it a clinical interest.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

if you don't care, why ask?

A pale ale is just what is says, very general. An IPA is derived from the bad old days when they shipped beer from England all the way to India. The only way to keep it from spoiling was to brew it strong (we’re talking 7+%) and hop it to oblivion. Some occasionally like beer strong and hopped to oblivion, so IPA persists.

by wcw on Jun 14, 2008 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The first time I had an IPA, it was 11% and I was disgusted to holy hell by it.

I think I could grow an appreciation, but my pallate just naturally tells me that beer with more than 10% alcohol is wrong.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same reason as howyouscored

I can drink Pale Ale, but IPA’s make me gag. I’m interested in the thin line between holding something down and pouring it down the sink.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor me..no beer!

I lovelovelovelove beer. But unfortunately, I stopped drinking in 2002 due to a bad thyroid. Drinking now just makes me feel crappy, but damn I love beer. So allow me to wax nostalgic, as talking about beer allows me to think of the good days.

Best beer in the world, hands down, no doubt: Guinness, the official drink of Heaven, Olympus, Valhalla, and several otherworldly places. I dream of drinking Guinness. I’ve written poetry and prose about Guinness – no kidding! To me, the five best things in the world are (in no particular order):
Erin
Guinness
Surfing
Baseball
Driving

OK, some other favored brews:
Sierra Nevada: best after a six hours of snowboarding fresh pow
Negro Modelo: best with chips and salsa while playing pool in Baja
Chimay Red: best on a hot summer evening, chilling on the porch
Fuller’s London Pride: Cask pulled (without carbonation) at the pubs in London

It’s also just great to have a beer right the brewery of most microbrewers. You get good beer and get to talk about beer to other peoples who love it too.

Finally, I have to offer up a strange but good combo that most people wouldn’t think of: Red Tale Ale (or similar) with a PB&J sandwich. That might seem strange, but it is quite good. The peanuts and fruits in the sandwich bring out tastes in the beer You wouldn’t otherwise experience. You have to use good PB&J. No crap Skippy, JIF or Welches.

Thank You. I love beer.

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jun 13, 2008 7:01 PM PDT reply actions  

by “Erin” I am going to assume that you mean Erin Andrews

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 14, 2008 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

howyouscored, lol

I’ve got to stop drunk posting.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please, don’t.

I’m enjoying it.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, you should drunk more drunk-post, instead.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 14, 2008 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chimay Red is great.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jun 14, 2008 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Step back y'all. The king has arrived!

Woohoo, the topic of this diary is getting me all hot and bothered, and I’ve yet to even start my rant.
Nice call xanthan. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

Ok, so here’s my all-time Top 10 folks, listen up, and you might wanna take some notes.

10: I’m not a huge fan of Porters, they’re typically a little too dark for my taste, but this stuff is by far the best Porter I’ve ever had. A good little smokey bite to this one. Smoked beer you say? Yes please!
Alaskan Smoked Porter – Alaskan Brewing Company
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9: This one is a bit of a mystery that I haven’t yet wrapped my head around. Technically, it’s an Amber, but it almost tastes like an IPA. Super-hoppy though, and that’s where I’m sent into pure bliss. Tasty, tasty stuff.
Prohibition Ale – Speakeasy Brewing Company
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8: This is the only beer on this list that I have yet to get my hands on. Why is it on my list, you might ask? Because it comes highly recommended from some friends back east, oh, and because it’s chocolate doughnut beer, ya dummy!
Shenandoah Chocolate Donut Beer – Shenandoah Brewing Company
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7: So I was born and raised in beautiful Central Oregon. If only I had been exposed to the fine crafted ales of the local Deschutes Brewery….I surely wouldn’t of left for college here in California. This seasonal brew is probably one of the best summer/early fall beers, I’ve ever had. Many a times I’ve been in a Pac Bell parking lot, polishing off a 6’er of this stuff as I close down my pre-game preparations and stroll across the bridge and into the park.
Twilight Ale – Deschutes Brewery
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6: When it comes to domestic brews, I lean more towards the Pales and Ambers…that being said, if you’re like me and this stuff isn’t on your list of faves, you might want to have your head checked. Oh, and for some kickass hotdogs, I STRONGLY suggest boiling them up in this stuff for a little taste of heaven.
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale – Sierra Nevada Brewing Company
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5: I’m a fan of Pales…you should know this by now….That being said, this one has always been high on my list. No real explanation needed, it’s good, it’s English, and it’s a pale. You had me at Hello.
Bass Ale – Bass Brewers Limited
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4: Brewed in a little town on the Oregon Coast, Rogue Ales is a strong #2 on my list of home-state breweries (behind Deschutes Brewery of course). Their Dead Guy Ale is my favorite from their extensive lineup…and that’s saying something. These guys produce some serious varieties of beer, folks. If the Dead Guy Ale isn’t high on your list, I’m sure they’ll have something you will fall in love with.
Dead Guy Ale – Rogue Ales
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3: No explanation needed…if you’re from the area, or have ever visited…you’ve got no excuse for not having tried this stuff. The Liberty Ale is by far my favorite from their lineup.
Anchor Steam Liberty Ale – Anchor Brewing Co.
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2: Another selection from my hometown brewery. This stuff is extremely rare and VERY hard to get ahold of. Part of their Bond Street Series, the Hop Trip Ale has a bite unlike any other. Fresh hops are trucked over from the Willamette River Valley and added to every barrel of brew. If you see this stuff on a shelf, grab one for yourself and clean out the rest of them for me!
Hop Trip Ale – Deschutes Brewery
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1: Ok…so it’s finally time for my #1 seed. There isn’t much of a story to this one really, other than this real brief one. So you know when you first start drinking…just about anything will do. To the underage drinker, there’s nothing better than a case of whatever you can buy for $5.00. Once your tolerance is built up and you’ve entered college, the El Cheapo beers are no longer any good and you “graduate” to the hard stuff. Hello generic charcoal filtered vodka from a plastic bottle! You spend a few early mornings coughing up your own blood, and you’ll quickly learn that perhaps binging with a bottle of 151 isn’t the smartest thing you could be doing with your time. So you head back to beers, but this time, taking time to smell the roses. Newcastle was the first “grown-up” beer I ever had, and now, almost 10 years later, I’m still not tired of it. Sure I’ll branch out and try something here or there (as my list above clearly shows), but when I’m looking for something I know, something I can trust, and something that that I’m perfectly content with….Newcastle is where I go. Oh Newcastle Brown Ale, how I love thee. They call you “The One and Only” and dammit if they aren’t right.

No picture for this one, as it just couldn’t do it any justice. It’s been my avatar, and will always be my avatar.

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 13, 2008 9:17 PM PDT reply actions  

beautiful speech on the Newcastle

I almost teared up, I love the stuff too. My own little story: a few years ago I went home for one of my sister’s graduation party and my mom asked me if there was anything specific I wanted her to bring to the party (I think she meant food) to which I replied “how about a 6 pack of Newcastle?” So now whenever I go home my mom always has some Newcastle on hand, she remembers it because there is a poultry disease with the same name (we’re a farm family). She puts a bottle in my Christmas stocking every year, a tradition she insists on keeping forever.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 13, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good list, you hit on some of my favorites.

I think Sierra Nevada is one of those really good beers that you can find almost anywhere. Anchor Steam’s Liberty Ale is good as well. Rogue makes great stuff, too, I like their Dead Guy Ale and the Chocolate Stout they make.

Since I’m on the east coast, I’ll keep my eyes peeled for that Shenandoah Beer, looks interesting!

by xanthan on Jun 14, 2008 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously a man with a depth of opinion on beer

I’m not into IPAs or pale ales generally but I really love Bass for some reason. It’s Orange Pekoe beer.

Your stages of drinking are spot-on. I have no desire to binge drink any more, so it’s been back to delicious beer, sippin whiskeys and the occasional well mixed manhatten.

you can't block the Bocock

by oldjacket on Jun 14, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. Your list is dominated by hoppy American brews and then topped off by one of the most mellow dark beers around. Good beers all, but the Newky is an all time classic ale.

Have You ever had Sam Smith’s Nut Brown? It’s also quite a nice mellow brown ale. Very good.

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jun 13, 2008 10:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I had Samuel Smith’s Nut Brown Ale last night, in fact. Great beer.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 14, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t had a Sam Smith’s, but it is high on my list next trip to Bev Mo.

Question: Is it a problem if I shop at Bev Mo only while pushing a cart and most trips I come out of there with some beer, booze, and wine in my basket and a good $50-$60 on the debit card? First time I took my folks into a Bev Mo (In Oregon, we don’t have cool things like this) they came away from it thinking that I have a weeeee bit of a drinking problem.

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 14, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s only bad if You need to borrow Your friends van.

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jun 14, 2008 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

just spent a week in Belgium

Belgian beers really are the best in the world. My favorite (which is probably impossible to find in the US) is Westmalle Dunkel (dark and brown, like a less sweet and more alcoholic Newcastle Brown). The Westmalle Trebel has even more alcohol and actually becomes blond again (I don’t understand how Belgian beer can undergo transformations from light to dark to light again by adding increasingly more alcohol, but apparently it happens). Love Chimay too, Leffe, Duvel. Those you can get in the States.

Among microbrews, I’d give my props to Liberty Ale, then Sierra Nevada.

by Duelling Brandos on Jun 14, 2008 7:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Various beers I like

Duvel. Mared Sous 8, Chimay Red, Leffe Blonde, Young’s Double Chocolate Stout, Leffe Blonde, most of Sierra Nevada’s stuff,

Samuel Smith’s Oatmeal Stout:

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jun 14, 2008 7:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I love Sammy Smith beers. I really dig their Imperial Stout and they make a damn fine Nut Brown, too. Chimay is good as well, I like the two darker versions they make (blue and white label? I can’t remember).

by xanthan on Jun 14, 2008 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I love Chimay

Blue too. Thought I typed it Don’t really like White.

Blue has the darkest colour, purplish brown, it is also the strongest, 9% ABV. Red is reddish brown, a dubbel, 7%. White is I would say, a pale golden colour, 8% ABV.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jun 14, 2008 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, since you like the dark Chimays,

ever tried Mared Sous 8?

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jun 14, 2008 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have not, I’ll have to add it to my beer list. Is it similar in style?

I also wanted to add that I love Youngs Double Chocolate Stout. Creamy chocolate goodness.

by xanthan on Jun 14, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say it is somewhere between

a Chimay Red and a Chimay Blue. It’s not as sweet as Red, or the usual Belgian Dubbel.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jun 14, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

And

No one has laughed at my funny tag for this post….yet.

by xanthan on Jun 14, 2008 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I was too distracted laughing at you.

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by Natto on Jun 14, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

My apologies

That was out of line. I laugh because I’m afraid to confront my own insecurities. I… I just… want to be loved…*sobs *

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by Natto on Jun 14, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

While we are on the subject...

Toronado! Get there!

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jun 14, 2008 7:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Hate to reply to my own post...

...but does no one here know the Toronado to give a “Here! Here!” For those who do not know, Toronado is a bar in the lower Haight. If You’re in the city and You love beer, You will be cheating Yourself if You do not stop in.

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jun 14, 2008 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

The Toronado is a sweeeet place. I used to live down the street from it, and it is Belgian beer HQ.

Is the sausage place still next door?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 15, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah,

Rosamunde’s. Love that place. You can have them bring you your sausage next door at toronado. A wild boar sausage with a Pliny The Elder IPA is an awesome combo

by stress on Jun 15, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lately it’s been nothing but Stella Artois. I love lighter stuff in the hot weather. It just seems more refreshing.
I drink those little fuckers too damn fast though…

by WTF on Jun 14, 2008 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

I tended bar in London for a few months back in ‘99. They consume oodles of the Stella in England. So much so that Artois has a bit of an image problem in the UK.

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jun 14, 2008 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guinness and friends

Freshness may be more important than the brand. I always liked Guinness but after having draft pints in a Dublin pub while on a reporting trip to Ireland in the 80’s, it never tasted quite as good anywhere else. I’ve entertained the thought that it’s all in my mind but I don’t think so. Another favorite from my years in Britain that doesn’t travel well—Old Peculiar. I’ve had Bass at the Bass brewery in England but that somehow didn’t taste as different as the Bass you get anywhere else. Coincidentally, I’m reading this thread after a solstice party featuring akvavit followed Carlsberg Elephant (7.2 pct. alcohol) chasers. By the third round, it was among the best beers I ever tasted.

by NearestNorwich on Jun 14, 2008 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I had Amstel in Greece as a lad.

Henninger , too.
These were ouzo chasin’ brews.
What’s this “Light” crap?

D’yall think that a 17 year old drinking ouzo and chasing it with Euro brews has a good chance of seeing out an entire school year?

NOW they tell me…

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

another great one that deserves a mention

Smithwicks (the w is silent) it’s made by Guinness and is a stouter red. Excellent beer.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 14, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

racer 5

you can get it these days in safeways and it is amazing. Otherwise:
Sierra Nevada
Negro Modello
Stella
Anchor Steam
Murphy’s
Tenant’s
HoeGarden

My go to piss beer/ day drinking beer:
Coors Light
Kokanee

My go to 40 oz beer:
Schlitts Malt (very underrated)
Colt 45

Someone get Damon Minor's agent on the phone stat!

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 14, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Schlitz?

Fuck that shit. Pabst Blue.. I mean, Mickey’s Big Mouth.

by wcw on Jun 14, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fosters

I heart big cans.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jun 14, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to save the cans. The price tag told me where/when I bought it.

I had about a hundred , and was getting tired of boxing them up when I moved…then some li’l kids knocked on my door one day as I was moving and hit me up for some aluminum cans.

I handed them both huge boxes.
“Wow , now we have enough to go to Waterworld!”

Ass that I am I didn’t let on that they weren’t exactly aluminum…

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2008 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to make my fortune with the Foster's Hugger.

Never made it past the paper – bag – and – tape stage.

Foster’s is another acquired taste…I’ve acquired a few.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

-100 for malt liquor and PBR reference.

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 14, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

For PBR though? PBR is better than any of the Bud/Miller/Coors crap out there. Is it superb? Certainly not. But I’ll take it over a whole lot of beer, including nasty-ass Fosters.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 15, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes for PBR. Your argument is something like…”but Boozer, I when given the choice of drinking vomit or horse piss, of course the vomit is better!” No thank you sir. It doesn’t work that way.

Add to that the, “I wear trucker hats because I wanna be cool like Ashton Kutcher” contingent that’s always hyping PBR and that’s more than enough reason to stay far, far away from that stuff.

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 15, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

-1 for malt liquor reference

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.

by PacBellBoozer on Jun 14, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

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