Sabes on XM
Brian Sabean phoned in an interview with XM's Baseball this Morning and as, I don't believe they archive any of their baseball channel shows (and it was about 5:00 a.m. SF time), I thought I'd jot down a few of things he had to say before I forget it all.
- Sabes is currently on a scouting trip, preparing for the June draft. The team's scouts and player evaluation team have by now come up with a list of "6 or 7 guys" they feel are solid for the #5 pick and Sabean wants to see all of them play in person "at least twice" before the end of the season. Last night he caught Gordon Beckham, in sadly an uninspiring performance ("I saw the wrong game, in scouts' lingo") and today he'll watch HS SS Tim Beckham play. Then he's off to Nashville to catch a UGA/Vandy tilt that will feature both G. Beckham and Pedro Alvarez. Sabean doesn't believe Alvarez will still be available at 5, but the hamate injury could concievably cause him to fall.
- Dick Tidrow was ga-ga for Tim Lincecum. So convinced was Tidrow that Lincecum was far and away the number 1 talent in the '06 draft, he spent much of the run up to the draft trying to figure out other team's draft strategies, obsessing over the idea that Timmy might fall to us (pretty funny story the way Sabes told it). He even convinced Sabean NOT to go to Washington to watch Lincecum, because he didn't want other teams to know how interested the Giants were.
- Matt Cain was also a Dick Tidrow call.
- Brad Hennessy apparently has yet another medical issue. Sabean opined that the reason for his fall in performance is "he's lost a bunch of weight this year and he just can't seem to keep any on him." They sent him down to Fresno, but Sabean suggested that what they really want to do is run him through a battery of tests to try to find out what's going on inside him. Sad. Poor Brad's body has been through enough.
- Alex Hinshaw has "an electric arm -- you'll see him in SF soon."
- Sabean's love of experience and moxie doesn't stop at the playing field. Describing the front office reorg that went on this winter, he said "the great thing is we now have a whole room of veterans -- guys who've been around the block." One of those veterans Ed Creech (former Director of Scouting for the Pirates) was directly responsible for bringing in Jose Castillo, who the Giants are very happy with.
- Surprisingly, Sabean seemed to place a lot of faith in Lowry's role in the Giant's rebuilding process over the next couple of years. Lowry's "a proven winner who we're really missing right now" and who's return will make the team much better. (Personal aside, that strikes me as crazy talk in several different ways).
- Sabes thinks the Giants are the most improved team in baseball right now (from ST to now, I'd assume he meant).
- Though he grew up in New Hampshire, Sabes was raised a Dodgers fan by his fundamentals lovin' Dad (UGH!)
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Wow, not good to hear about Brad. I hope it’s nothing too serious.
Sabean’s love of experience and moxie doesn’t stop at the playing field. Describing the front office reorg that went on this winter, he said “the great thing is we now have a whole room of veterans—guys who’ve been around the block.” One of those veterans Ed Creech (former Director of Scouting for the Pirates) was directly responsible for bringing in Jose Castillo, who the Giants are very happy with.
THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THIS PARAGRAPH THAT DOES NOT FILL ME WITH EPIC LULZ.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on May 8, 2008 6:38 AM PDT 0 recs
What we need is more crusty old baseball men in a room to make decisions!
Thanks for the recap, interesting stuff.
Anyone have a scouting report on Hinshaw? He’s throwing well in Fresno.
SV IP H R ER HR BB SO GO/AO AVG 6 13.2 5 1 1 0 4 18 1.08 .111
by xanthan on
May 8, 2008 6:42 AM PDT
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Classic “good stuff, bad command” pitcher. He’s always had issues with keeping the ball in the strike zone, but it looks like he’s doing a pretty good job of it right now. He’s a lefty that throws low to mid-90’s, from what I remember. His control has improved the last couple of years.
Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.
by Anticon23 on
May 8, 2008 7:48 AM PDT
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am wondering why Hinshaw pitched so
little last year….had to be some kind of injury there…..
by slojoe on
May 8, 2008 5:43 PM PDT
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Crusty old men
Yeah, just the idea of Ed Creech in the SF organization gives me the creeps. Why couldn’t we hire somebody from a team that actually gives the impression they have the ability to evaluate talent, like Cleveland, Atlanta, Minnesota (until recently), or Boston?
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
by Lyle on
May 8, 2008 2:49 PM PDT
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But dude
He gave us Castillo!
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
May 9, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
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The Hennessey stuff worries me, with his past health issues. It worries me on a personal level, totally removed from baseball. Get yourself healthy, please, Brad.
Glad people are hopping on board the Hinshaw bandwagon. I like this guy. It sort of sucks that Pereira threw so well Sunday when I was in Fresno because I would have liked to see Hinshaw and/or Espineli (Fresno’s other lights-out lefty reliever) throw.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 8, 2008 6:59 AM PDT 0 recs
Re: Sabean's dad.
I grew up hearing the "better to lose a guy two years too soon then a year too late" attributed to Branch. (Yes I know a lot of what he is attributed was borrowed from others.) If that saying reappears near the top of Sabean greatest hits most played/ requested list. I think the release is called Broken Record . You know the one available from K- Tell for a limited time low price that has Sabean dress like M Jackson on the Thriller cover ? Then this could be acceptable. Yes times have reached that depth stealing for the Evil Ones is entirely acceptable.
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
by daveinexile on
May 8, 2008 8:56 AM PDT
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Didn’t Hennessey have some type of cancer early on?
A tumor in his back or something weird like that?
by WTF on May 8, 2008 7:47 AM PDT 0 recs
Ya and IIRC it came back a second time. I’m married to the worst case scenario in everything so I’m really sad right about now.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
May 8, 2008 7:52 AM PDT
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Me, too. I’m actually feeling badly about all of us here piling on Brad during the past month. Hope he’s okay.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on
May 8, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
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Dear Brad,
I r sorriez for all teh hate I thot of youu. Get well soonz.
Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on
May 8, 2008 9:34 AM PDT
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You don't need to worry
Hennessey never had cancer. The tumor was benign.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
May 9, 2008 9:33 AM PDT
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Benign, benign and a half.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
May 9, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
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Baseball This Morning Replay
FYI, XM 175 replays the show for the west coast.
Sabean’s interview will re-air in the 8 to 9am PST hour.
by Ed Jew on May 8, 2008 7:58 AM PDT 0 recs
For those looking for it
it followed immediately after an interview with Cincinnati Enquirer columnist Paul Daugherty. Somerwher around 8:20.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on
May 8, 2008 8:20 AM PDT
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roger, thanks for the report, I for one have low tech radio and would never get this news otherwise. Maybe we can swap Tidrow for a hitting scout. Or cooperate with another team along those lines.
On Hennessey—that’s candid of Sabe to tell us about the weight loss. You’d think Brad and those close to him and the team doctors would get started on medical testing quickly. Even in baseball terms, he wasn’t doing anything useful in the bullpen anyway, why not deal with basic health issues.
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by foothillsfan on May 8, 2008 8:19 AM PDT 0 recs
Wow
Considering all Hennessey’s been through, I hope this isn’t the worst case senario. I bumped into him before a game one day with my one year old, and he couldn’t have been nicer.
by tyrannoman on May 8, 2008 8:22 AM PDT 0 recs
+1
sorry I can’t think of a snide remark .
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
by daveinexile on
May 8, 2008 8:59 AM PDT
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i never saw the point of all the crap directed
towards Hennessey….he was decent as the closer when we needed him last year….and this season is
irrelevant aside from developing prospects, so his ineffectiveness hasnt hurt that much…..
hes former #1 pick, deserves another chance and hopefully starting in Fresno gets him back on track….
by slojoe on
May 8, 2008 5:40 PM PDT
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Surprisingly, Sabean seemed to place a lot of faith in Lowry’s role in the Giant’s rebuilding process over the next couple of years. Lowry’s “a proven winner who we’re really missing right now” and who’s return will make the team much better. (Personal aside, that strikes me as crazy talk in several different ways).
From the most recent reports after having seen Dr Andrews, it sounds as though they’ve determined that Lowry doesn’t have serious structural damage and the nerve problems should get better if he rests it for a month. This, coupled with Sabean’s comments, seem to suggest that Lowry is expected to get better and perform well again.
2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!
by Goofus on May 8, 2008 10:39 AM PDT 0 recs
As I’ve said for awhile now, as no major league pitcher has been no to have this procedure to fix this malady before, there really isn’t a roadmap for recovery—Noah’s the lab rat and “expecting” anything has as much to do with hope as it does with knowledge.
More to the point, I don’t know much I expected him to “perform well again” even before he found himself on the surgeon’s table.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on
May 8, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
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Exactly
Expecting at this point is the same as wishing, I think Lowry’s chances are extremely small at this point of coming back and being a productive major league starting pitcher.
He’s been down trending for 2 years coupled with injuries, I don’t like those odds.
by xanthan on
May 8, 2008 11:06 AM PDT
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However
could the downward trend be caused by the freaksihly weird injury?
by tyrannoman on
May 9, 2008 9:04 AM PDT
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Hmmm.
“has been no”? How about “has been known…”
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on
May 8, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
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OK, I should have said they’re “hopeful”, but I’m not ready to predict Lowry’s carrer is over. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
2008 Giants: A steaming pile of scrap!
by Goofus on
May 8, 2008 12:27 PM PDT
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Germans?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
May 8, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
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Forget it, he's on a roll.
(somebody had to)
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on
May 8, 2008 12:42 PM PDT
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TOGA ! TOGA! TOGA!
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on
May 8, 2008 11:34 PM PDT
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no - Polka! Polka ! Polka!
" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.
by daveinexile on
May 9, 2008 11:04 AM PDT
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I don’t think his bonus demands are that unreasonable. Is he even a Boras client?
by Grant on
May 8, 2008 2:52 PM PDT
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Nice
That took a minute for me to get.
If you like things that are funny, perhaps you will enjoy ChatterBalks Dot Com?
by groug on
May 8, 2008 4:23 PM PDT
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I don't get it..
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on
May 8, 2008 9:23 PM PDT
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think about the different ways you can spell “smoke”
by Viliphied on
May 9, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
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Smoakke?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
May 9, 2008 3:38 PM PDT
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Smoakkake?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
May 9, 2008 8:49 PM PDT
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What am I missing?
I thought the joke was Grant saying “You deserve to be struck out when your first name’s a verb” even though his first name is a verb.
If you like things that are funny, perhaps you will enjoy ChatterBalks Dot Com?
by groug on
May 9, 2008 10:02 PM PDT
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OH!
Blowing Smoak!
Man, that took me a long time.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
May 10, 2008 2:38 AM PDT
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pleased with jose castillo???? now that just pisses me off
"But if he's swinging at real flies, well, in that case there are two definite solutions: 1) Fresno 2) Ritalin." - howtheyscored
by CPGiant756 on May 8, 2008 11:34 AM PDT 0 recs
but does it really surprise you?!? really?!?
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on
May 8, 2008 11:35 PM PDT
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WTF
are they supposed to say? “Yeah, Jose sucks, but we think he’s still better than Leone?” Come on now.
by tyrannoman on
May 9, 2008 9:04 AM PDT
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meh
I’m pleased with him. To paraphrase Denny Green “He is who we thought he was”
If we actually had a legit 3B, he’d be a pretty ok sub for the IF. I don’t think anyone in the organization actually considers him a long term solution.
by Viliphied on
May 9, 2008 2:31 PM PDT
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Get well Henny
Wonder what Tidrow thinks of Matusz, Crow and Scheppers. Would be nice if Alvarez dropped into Giants lap. Hinshaw is dealing in Fresno. SF has many arms it could trade this summer, it would be interesting to see what value they could get in return.
by wilriv21 on May 8, 2008 12:21 PM PDT 0 recs
Sabes Logic
“Sabes thinks the Giants are the most improved team in baseball right now (from ST to now, I’d assume he meant).”
By that reasoning, you could show up at work drunk, puke on your bosses desk, sexually harass your secretary, and pass out naked on the conference table, and still be called “the most improved employee” of the day, as long as you wake up and start answering your phone before lunchtime.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on May 8, 2008 12:58 PM PDT 0 recs
That might be a little over the top
I think he meant we’re still at the passed out naked on the conference table level of improvement (figuring that that’s much less annoying than puking on your bosses desk and harassing your admin). Waking up and answering the phone isn’t scheduled until next year.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
by Roger on
May 8, 2008 1:19 PM PDT
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Now we finally know what Sabean was talking about...
...with his comments about “guys who aren’t ready to answer the bell”.
All-Father Watch: 1.40 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 18 Ks in 19 1/3 IP
by EliminateMe on
May 8, 2008 1:56 PM PDT
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You just ruined my day, Roger!
He finally sees Gordon Beckham, and the G-man has a bad game?? Yikes. You know Brian “First Impression” Sabean, he’ll never get over that. It’s like Randy Winn in reverse. I can only hope the UGA/Vandy game has Beckham hitting a couple of massive homers, making three brilliant defensive plays, and ends with Gordo in CF (that is how you catch Brian’s eye, isn’t it?).
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
by Lyle on May 8, 2008 1:13 PM PDT 0 recs
Sabes first impression of Beckham was that he’s got a tremendous curve on his free kicks and does really well on set pieces.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
by Kitspool on
May 8, 2008 2:51 PM PDT
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That would be David, but his report on Vic is more revealing
is that he loves that athletic tan body and those FMPs
by wilriv21 on
May 8, 2008 3:04 PM PDT
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You say athletic…I say anorexic.
Yucky!!

Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on
May 8, 2008 11:38 PM PDT
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Not to mention that this walking blowup doll belongs in the Worst Boob Job Ever Hall of Fame.
I have always liked her hairstyles, though.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
May 9, 2008 6:47 AM PDT
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Horrible boob job. You would think that a woman with those means at her disposial would get a first class nip and tuck, but I guess not.
by tyrannoman on
May 9, 2008 9:06 AM PDT
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Classic—walking blowup doll! Best description of this type of woman I’ve ever heard.
by Change Up on
May 9, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
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Most unnecessary cosmetic boob work is pretty awful, imo.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
May 9, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
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True.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
May 9, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
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I totally agree
then when it’s really really poor work on a really really rich person, it’s even worse.
by tyrannoman on
May 9, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
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+1
Fake Boobs FTL!
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
May 9, 2008 12:55 PM PDT
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That is not an athlete
A real athlete, World and Olympic Champion, World Record holder, Yelena Isinbayeva:

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on
May 10, 2008 12:07 AM PDT
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Double-edged sword....
There are some things that were good to hear in that interview and some things that really bothered me.
The fact that Sabean is pleased with Castillo’s performance bothers me. However, he could have meant that he is thankful that he at least has a third basemen. I don’t know.
A part of me wants to believe that Sabean isn’t always honest in these interviews…..
by Squire_Boone on May 8, 2008 2:19 PM PDT 0 recs
thanks for the great post Roger
lots of good stuff there….
wish i had XM…..
by slojoe on May 8, 2008 5:47 PM PDT 0 recs
Got to drive a coworker's car..
With XM in it to move some furniture because I only have a car. XM is really nice.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on
May 8, 2008 9:27 PM PDT
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I read that as “Got to drive a coworker’s cat”. I should cut down on the lolcats.
by Natto on
May 8, 2008 10:50 PM PDT
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Cut down on the lolcats?
NEVER!!!!!
Only 937 games until the end of Zito's contract
by thehavenot on
May 10, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
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Lol at tidrow stopping sabean from going to watch lincecum. Sounds like Billy Beane and Nick Swisher in Moneyball.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on May 8, 2008 8:37 PM PDT 0 recs
Tidrow's ulterior reason?
Sabean might have seen Lincecum, and his old school “gut” instinct might have told him:
“Too small, too radical a motion, too risky a pick.”
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