Which Alonso?
Yonder Alonso!
I can't believe I came up with that one all on my own!
The MLB.com Draft Report on Yonder Alonso gives a perfect synopsis of the Giant dilemma in its summary:
Godfather, or Godfather II? OK Computer or Kid A? Garfield at Large or Garfield Weighs In? Eternal questions, all. Smoak has the raw power, according to the scouty types, which is expected to be the kind of power that wouldn't be tarnished by the ample dimensions of Mays Field. Thirty homers? Forty homers? No problem, say the Smoakophiles.
Some folks think Alonso is a more polished hitter (a controversial opinion, mind you), but with an optimistic peak of 25-30 home runs. Thirty homers? Gee, that'd be a shame, seeing as the Giants have had one 30-homer season from a first baseman in the past 35 years. Sure, that's a little disingenuous, as Will Clark's 20+ homer seasons were the equivalent of 30- and 40-homer seasons today, but the point still stands. If Alonso rips 25 homers to go along with a .400 OBP, I think we'll all find a way to deal with it.
An interesting point that is usually made against Alonso is that his power is almost exclusively to the opposite field and center field. Again, this gets a Giants-specific chuckle, as we have had to deal with the quasi-promise of Pedro Feliz over the past seven years. Alonso is a hitter who starts with an opposite-field approach while trying to figure out how to pull for power? We'll take our chances, thank you.
One thing to note, though, is the strength of schedule for the prospective draftees. According to Boyd's World, Miami had the 62nd-most difficult schedule in the NCAA. That would mean that Alonso's stats are a little deceptive, as he was able to get fat against the Cornells and New Jersey Institute of Technologys of the college baseball world. As I'm not a college baseball follower, I can't pretend to know how accurate such a ranking is.
Alfonso's swing is beautiful to these amateur eyes. Smooth...compact...willing to take pitches the opposite way.... Dare I say, J.T. Snow with significantly more power? For all of the crap that J.T. took, the only thing separating him and elite-status was about 20 homers a season*. Alonso might have the approach of a Snow, combined with the relative power of a Will Clark.
Verdict: I'd be thrilled with Alonso, just as I'd be thrilled with Tim Beckham, Gordon Beckham, Buster Posey, Justin Smoak, or Pedro Alvarez. There's about a 4% chance that the Giants screw this draft up, at least as far as the short-term analysis goes. I don't think that either Aaron Crow or Brian Matusz is special enough to trump the organizational need for hitting. Alonso should move quickly. Smoak should move quickly. Neither will be able to play a position other than first, but that shouldn't be a problem if the Baseball Prospectus theorem holds true.
Links:
2007 Baseball America report from the Cape Cod League
Recent Baseball America feature
MLB.com Draft Report
BrewerFan.net profile
Palm Beach Post profile
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All he needs is a sister named Heather. Heather and Yon(der).
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2008 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure what to make of Alonso. The scouting reports on his hitting are great, and he sounds like the type who could post a high on-base percentage.
But he is consistently ranked below Justin Smoak as a prospect. Alonso gets dinged for being less athletic, less of a fielder and for having a touch less raw power. Baseball Prospectus also mentioned a concern about whether Alonso will hit lefties.
But if you add it all up, the main thing you want out of a first baseman is a bat, and Alonso seems solid in that department. A great OBP could make up for a lot of the little shortcomings.
There are enough minor questions about him, though, that I’d rank him below the first four guys profiled here.
by Dan from NM on May 29, 2008 8:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Smoak Gets in Your Eyes
And it stings
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
by S.F. Giangst on May 29, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Continuing
If the Giants draft Justin Smoak, they also need to find a player named Meers to draft. That way they can continue to win with Smoak and Meers even when the rest of the team isn’t going well.
by sharksrog on May 29, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Win!
Both the pun and at sharksrog making a joke!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well-played, sir.
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by Anticon23 on May 29, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*golf clap*
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by SoFa King Mike on May 29, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fan-fucking-tastic
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by marcello on May 29, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know whether Pat Meares has a son?
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by EliminateMe on May 29, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amateur scouting alert!
Miami plays Bethune-Cookman at 1 pm tomorrow on ESPNU. For those that have ESPNU and free time in the middle of the day, we all expect extensive scouting reports.
the other televised games tomorrow are:
Mississippi (37-24) vs. Missouri (38-19), noon (ESPNU), noon ET
Virginia (38-21) vs. UCLA (31-25), 7 p.m. (ESPNU), 7 p.m. ET
Rider (29-26) vs. Cal St. Fullerton (37-19), 9 p.m. (ESPNU), 11 p.m. ET
All the other possible draft picks’ (excepting the HSers, of course) teams are playing over the weekend (Friday-Monday). I would especially try to catch a South Carolina game because they have two other infield prospects: James Darnell and Reese Havens.
by bendito on May 29, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
btw... if anyone watches any other games and needs a who's who
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewDraftAmateurPlayerRanking.do?positionId=0&draftId=6
has a nice top 100 list with school names.
by bendito on May 29, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“If Alonso rips 25 homers to go along with a .400 OBP, I think we’ll all find a way to deal with it.”
I think you summed it up nicely. Both Smoak and Alonso would be the top prospect in the org and would likely be the starting 1B by ‘10. Although I prefer Alonso I’d still be as happy as pigs in mud if we got Smoak.
Judging from the scouting videos, I’m guessing that Alonso will hit for more power and Smoak will hit for better average. Alonso really lets it fly and Smoak slows it through the zone to get better contact ability.
by Change Up on May 29, 2008 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Alonso is a good prospect & an ok choice, but i’m not as keen on him as some others that may be available. The lack of athleticism/defence is an issue, but not a great one for me, i want my firstbaseman to hit primarily. More of the concern is over the power & how much he’ll have in the long run. A 1B with decent power & a great OBP is very valuable still, but if you don’t feel he’s going to have very good power, it makes you wonder whether it’s better to go for someone with decent power at a more premium position (Like Posey or G. Beckham)
All in all, i wouldn’t be too upset if we chose him, but i think he’s a notch below Alvarez & Smoak.
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by GiantFan on May 29, 2008 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it is really easy to say, here, defense is not an issue, but when we watch the guy play every day, it IS an issue. We tired very quickly of Velez’ defensive lapses. Just last night Aurilia made that great pick on an errant throw by Burris to complete an inning ending DP. Those things are important. And they shouldn’t be taken for granted. I’m not going to quibble if a guy has B+ defense instead of A- but damn, I don’t want more of the Velez, McClain, Durham, hands of stone sequels. They cost every bit as much as a Bocock or Castillo GIDP.
by allfrank on May 29, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Giving up an out on the diamond is just as bad as making an out at the plate.
Probably worse.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s more demoralizing for sure.
FWIW I wouldn’t reach too much into questions of Alonso’s defense. He’s got a Fielding Percentage north of 990. He’s just not going to be a gold glover, either.
Question for Alonso is two-fold? How will he fair against lefties and can he turn on pitches inside better.
by Change Up on May 29, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In some ways I think its worse
In more than a demoralizing way. Purely statistically.
But I haven’t wrapped my head around how to support that feeling yet :)
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t pay much attention to fielding percentage. I’d be more concerned about his range than anything else.
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by Anticon23 on May 29, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alvarez?
According to an entry over at MLB Trade Rumors, Beckham’s dad is of the mind that his son will go in the Top 2 picks, to either TB or Pittsburgh, based on their discussions with the family. If Posey and Beckham go 1-2, is there a scenario where Alvarez slips to the Giants?
by Buck Henry on May 29, 2008 9:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If they picked 3rd, sure
As it is, we need 4 teams to pass on Pedro for us to get him.
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by hairball on May 29, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Royal Pain
It will come down to whether or not Boras has scared off the Royals.
by Buck Henry on May 29, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a longshot...
but one scenario I can think of does have Alvarez falling to the Giants. As you detail above, Posey would have to go #1 and T. Beckham #2.
The tricky part would be getting Alvarez past the Royals. For sake of argument put aside the debate of best player available vs drafting for need for now. The Royals are set at the corners with Gordon and Butler. Moustakas could very likely shift to 3B, pushing Gordon to 1B and Butler to DH. Alvarez himself is no lock to stay at 3B himself, and while a move to the OF is possible, he is still thought of as a 3B for the present. The Royals are lacking in true middle infield prospects. They could also use another arm in the starting rotation. Finally, they are not too far away from being a contender. Considering these factors, it is not out of the realm of possibility that they select G. Beckham who would be a solid pick at either MI spot, is likely to advance quickly, and would be less expensive than Alvarez. Alternatively, I’m sure they have had plenty of opportunity to scout Aaron Crow at the U of Missouri, and have seen him at his dominating best earlier this season. Either Beckham or Crow would likely be able to contribute to pennant chases rather quickly.
Next, the Orioles would have to go another route. Goldstein at BP reports that the Orioles have spent a lot of time scouting Crow and Matusz. If the Orioles are truly looking to draft pitching, they would likely have to strike early since this draft is pretty thin on advanced pitching arms. If Crow is already gone they would likely choose Matusz at #4.
The wild card factor in all of this is Boras’ contract demands. This does work in the Giants favor since they have more financial wherewithal than the four teams picking ahead of them.
Again, this is just a best case scenario. Even if it doesn’t come to pass, I would be perfectly happy with Smoak, and nearly as happy with Hosmer, Alonso, or Skipworth. As Grant points out, there is a 4% chance the Giants screw this draft up… which I take to refer to the #5 pick alone. As I have pointed out before, there is a chance the Giants screw up the draft overall if they take the safe route they have in the past and draft low ceiling, organizational filler type players in the later rounds.
by baseballjunkie on May 29, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case the Giants draft Alonzo...
I’m throwing down a nickname right now. “Mountain String.”
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by leftymalo on May 29, 2008 11:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Say "Si" to Alonso
You’re killing me Larry. You bring up the U’s strength of schedule is 62nd however fail to mention that South Carolina’s strength of schedule is 66th! The good thing about the U schedule is that they played most of their patsies earlier in the season and Yonder Alonso didn’t begin his HR mashing until he got into the later ACC schedule.
With Alonso being described as a “professiona hitter” and a “run producer”, he had me at hello. He power is to CF and LCF which should play well at Mays Field. He did very well in the Cape Cod wooden bat league which SF organization puts a very high emphasis. He is a much better athlete than he has been previously given credit. Last season he stole 13 bases and this season has stolen 8. This is noteworthy not for his ability to steal bases in MLs but that he is a decent baserunner and will not clog up the bases. He has improved dramatically defensively.
Prior to this season he was not the best in shape athlete but has dedicated himself to a better workout regime and joined ARod in workouts over the winter. This friendship has both inspired and improved Alonso the baseball player.
While Alonso does not have the raw power that Smoak possess he has improved hit HR totals each season at the U. As a freshman Alonso hit 10 HRs, sophomore he hit 18 HRs and this his junior season he has hit almost as many as any collegian baseball player – 22 HRs.
Get the impression that Alonso is to the 2008 draft what LaPorta was to the 2007 draft.
by wilriv21 on May 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Smoakophiles?
we’re called Smoakers
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the one where he hates Mondays.
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by groug on May 29, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When is a LOLCat not a LOLCat?
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by groug on May 29, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Keith Law's Chat Today
KLaw had this to say:
Jerry (TX): Who are the Giants thinking about with the #5 pick?Keith Law: (1:33 PM ET ) I think they’d love to see Posey or Tim Beckham fall to them, but failing that, they’re very high on Smoak, and if all three are gone, they’d turn to Brett Wallace or Gordon Beckham.
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by antinous on May 29, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Breh Whah?
At least he knows how to blog. And he’s from the land of Sonomia!
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by leftymalo on May 29, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Law seems to like Wallace...
In one chat he even said he feels Wallace could play a passable third base in the majors.
So my question is “What is the difference between Wallace and Alonso?”
And please no “oh, about 30 lbs” smart alecky answers. They both could be the best pure hitters in the draft, are deceptively fast for their size, and have good, if not great , power. Alonso gets a lot of love on this site but no one seems to think much of Wallace. Any reasons why?
by baseballjunkie on May 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
J.T. had 25 homer power until Mays Field
So, I’m thinking Snow might be a good comparison to Alonso, hitting wise. Which isn’t terrible. I really think Jack gets short thrift around here because of his loss of power upon his move here. That really wasn’t his fault.
The only problem I had with J.T. was his injury problems. And his slowness (stupid 2003).
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by thehavenot on May 29, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw puns!
Let’s start the Verbification Revolution! Hey, you guys want to go yonder alonso some pizza? Don’t open the door, I’m yonder alonsoing in here!
This is the wave of the future.
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by howtheyscored on May 29, 2008 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
The Smurfs already did it.
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by marcello on May 29, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That never yonder alonsoed me before.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 29, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You always were one to yonder alonso.
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by marcello on May 29, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More than that, I was always one to boldly yonder alonso.
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2008 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free Ortmeier
Someone needs to print up the shirts. As a former S.F. resident I would buy one.
Second. Everyone needs to get to work on that Wiki Ortmeier page. He doesn’t even have a photo up!
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by louisiana lumberman on May 29, 2008 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evil twin, Nad.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please excuse
I know it’s not really relevant here, but LL is my former roommate and current Cubs fan. We were just having a discussion this morning about the whereabouts of Dan Ortmeier and decided t-shirts were necessary to get Bochy to give him a chance. Or at least pull him out of the AT&T dungeon. Also, I may or may not have edited Ort’s wikipedia page.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 29, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm already there
I can’t remember a single time I’ve edited a wiki page for any reason other than entertaining myself.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 29, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
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by groug on May 29, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense makes a big difference, even at first base. The difference between the best-fielding first basemen and the worst is something like thirty runs a season.
It’s unlikely that the difference between Smoak and Alonso is that great, but since no one is sure which one is actually the better hitter, I’m going for the one with the glove.
by Evan on May 29, 2008 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on May 29, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Godfather
destroys Godfather II. The way Godfather II is split up makes it feel like you are get two half movies, which combined just aren’t as good as the original.
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by Trenchtown on May 29, 2008 1:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OK Computer!!
Not even a contest. Then, The Bends … THEN, Kid A.
by StickRat on May 29, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no Kid A is easily the best.
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by jponry on May 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of the above
I’ll take ‘The Bends’ over either of those any day. But then I’m old school. For instance, I preferred going to the picture show before the advent of those newfangled “talkies”.
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by Josh from Hollywood on May 29, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My grandmother still calls the movies “the picture show.” It cracks me up.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deja Vu.
Or you posted that once before.
Weird.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on May 29, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably posted it before. My grandmother does and says a lot of funny things.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2008 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strength of schedule
Based on that link, the strength of schedule isn’t very different for the various 1B prospects: Vanderbilt (Alvarez) is #71, South Carolina (Smoak) is #66. Among the non-1B possibilities, Buster Posey’s FSU is #68; only Georgia (Beckham) is significantly higher at #37.
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by EliminateMe on May 29, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What I’d really like is a strength-of-schedule ranking based not on overall quality of the teams but of the specific pitchers each player has faced. Somebody get on that.
by Evan on May 29, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I’d like that adjusted for park factors while you’re at it.
by Evan on May 29, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where can we find adjusted for park factors?
Read an online article that stated the power numbers for Arizona State and Miami players were deflated because of their parks. It went on to say the power numbers for Georgia and Florida State players were inflated because of their parks. Unfortunately I can no longer remember where I found this article.
by wilriv21 on May 29, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, here’s something:
http://www.boydsworld.com/data/pf2007.html
Huge difference there between Miami (park factor of 109) and South Carolina (85). That’s about the difference between Coors (posthumidor) and Petco.
Florida State is 98, Vanderbilt is 90, and Georgia is 79 (!).
by Evan on May 30, 2008 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And ASU is extremely high, as you would expect: 118.
by Evan on May 30, 2008 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if I understand this right...
...that’s the opposite of what Will posted above, right? ASU and Miami hitter stats would be inflated while Georgia would be deflated by park factors (and FSU would be neutral).
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by EliminateMe on May 30, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. Click through on the link for an explanation of his methodology.
UNM in Albuquerque has a park factor of 211.
by Evan on May 30, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet to find
There is another article dated sometime in 2008 that evaluated the collegiate parks differently. If I remember correctly ASU was assigned a 107, Miami 106, believe South Carolina was assigned a number in the 90’s and both Georgia and Florida St either high 70’s or low 80’s. It said Georgia and Florida St were inflated so the lower the value the more inflated the number. Am not sure the source of this info or where to locate.
by wilriv21 on May 30, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could that have been for pitching stats?
Pitching stats would be inflated by a sub-100 park factor. It seems very weird that someone would calculate a park factor but reverse the semantics.
All the NCAA park factor data that Google turns up for me seems to lead back to Boyd Nation’s work as cited above.
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by EliminateMe on May 30, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While doing a search on either “Yonder Alonso”, “Mock Draft” or “Miami Hurricanes Baseball” was reading some story about Alonso. In this story it also has some extra info about college baseball. I remember is stating that ASU players Brett Wallace and Ike Davis power numbers were deflated and that Florida St Buster Posey and Georgia GBeckham number were inflated. Have tried to retrace search but come up empty.
by wilriv21 on May 30, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOO Alfonso
I was thinking I have such bad, bad memories of Alfonso that I would forever be reminded of him when the announcers speak of Alonso. So I was going to say take Smoak just so I can enjoy my baseball in peace.
Then you go and mistakenly say “Alfonso’s swing…”
aaaauuuuggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by melottfan on May 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
AlfonZo
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by WalrusMan on Jun 3, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a Serious Note
An interesting point that is usually made against Alonso is that his power is almost exclusively to the opposite field and center field. Again, this gets a Giants-specific chuckle, as we have had to deal with the quasi-promise of Pedro Feliz over the past seven years. Alonso is a hitter who starts with an opposite-field approach while trying to figure out how to pull for power? We’ll take our chances, thank you.
Opposite field-exclusive power does not equal an opposite feel approach. While it’s still power, it can be more indicative of a kid getting overpowered by college fastballs, as that sort of direction with deep hits are more often than not because of how late he is on a swing. IMO, an advanced hitter pulls for power, and uses the opposite field on pitches to let the ball get out and then down thanks to backspin on the ball, using the motion on a pitch that is away (or falling away) to get the ball out of the infield. It could also indicate a hitch in a swing that causes said lateness.
I’d prefer a hitter who most often squares up on the ball in college. That’s a sign of a hitter with excellent timing and hand-eye coordination. Pulling and pushing hits can come later.
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by BruteSentiment on May 30, 2008 2:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, the ability to wait on the swing and still hit the ball hard is pretty impressive, no?
But I have to agree that someone who’s supposed to be an impact hitter in the majors shouldn’t need to wait against college fastballs.
by Evan on May 30, 2008 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Piazza, even in his prime, hit plenty of hits and HRs to opposite field. Will Clark too. And Tony Gwynn, but mainly for singles and doubles. So it can be a strategy, and it can work for a real strong guy with a real good ability to make solid contact. But at the college level? I agree, Yonder should be seeing those pitches and pulling them.
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by foothillsfan on May 30, 2008 8:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New Wrinkle
and it’s not a good one. Now reading Alonso wants over slot money – he is a collegiate junior so he does have options.
by wilriv21 on May 30, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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