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Joe Perez's article on Giants/Double A in Norwich


Joe Perez: Defenders’ affiliation has been a Giant pain
http://www.norwichbulletin.com/sports/x194405749/Joe-Perez-Defenders-affiliation-has-been-a-Giant-pain

Posted in today's Norwich Bulletin and is spot on.  I would have taken Defs mager Bien F. to task for doing a 180 on Dodd. 

And there's this from SFDugout:

"Well, despite Municipal Stadium being in one of the best hitter’s leagues in minor league baseball, Municipal Stadium is not a hitter’s stadium.  Its orientation facing to the southwest is a major factor.  The easterly winds that often blow across the stadium from right field to left can be a damper on any left-handed slugger, holding balls up.  San Jose is also being criticized as one of the toughest parks in which to pick up a baseball out of a pitcher’s hand, ranking in the bottom of all of minor league baseball for both average and on-base percentage park factors, and 5th worst in strikeouts."

 I hear Augusta is a long way from a bandbox also.  But the hate for Dodd seems just overwhelming and I know there are those home/away splits everyone will cite..  But is it because Double A is where the real separation starts to occur and because some of those players we hope are good just aren't?

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Diary Hijack!

Worst Diary Hijack ever?

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by WalrusMan on May 27, 2008 8:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Somebody made a Diary Hijack about an Earthquake. That one kind of sucked.

Somebody should ban that guy.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on May 27, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to disagree.

While that was a terrible hijack and he should be banned, this turned out worse.

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by WalrusMan on May 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, great minds think alike or 7 minutes apart....

http://gregsconnecticutdefenders.blogspot.com

by greg8370 on May 27, 2008 8:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dodd

I’ve been banging the drum for a long while now about how bad Dodd is.

It is not just AA being a new level: when you look at each team’s home SLG, OPS, and HR-rate in AA, the Defenders was significantly lower than the other teams. For one thing, when I studied the differences after the 2006 season, the SLG for Connecticut batters is much lower at home (83% of league average) and yet is basically league average (98%) on the road. Next lowest home SLG for a team was 95%, with 10 of the 11 other teams range from 95% to 106%.

Similarly for HR power, their AB/HR was 56% of league average at home and yet 97% league average on the road. Next lowest was 79% and 6 of 11 ranged from 86% to 102%, so there were a lot of extremes in this league. Still, the difference between the Defenders and the next lowest was as wide a range as from the next to the top of the mid-tier range, covering 9 teams – there were two much above teams,

ISO: 69% at home, 104% on the road. 93% was the next lowest, and range for 8 of 11 other teams was 95% to 106% at home.

XBH%: 85% at home, 108% on the road. Next lowest was 92%, 8 of 11 other teams ranged from 94% to 104% at home.

In all cases, our team was significantly worse than any other team’s home stats. Now, you could blame this on our AA team being significantly worse than the other teams, but as I noted, their road numbers are pretty much average and other teams coming into Dodd Stadium suffer just as badly, when you look at our pitchers stats there, it is almost a mirror image of how poorly our hitters did there.

The players blame the cold probably because they are young and inexperienced and thus are unable to name exactly what it is that bothers them so about hitting in Dodd, though Bowker was savvy enough to know what was wrong about Municipal Stadium when he was interviewed by MiLB about the problems hitting there. There is something seriously wrong about hitting there, whether it is the cold or any other reasons players might have suggested.

To call them “crybabies” smack of journalistic hubris, Joe obviously hasn’t studied the clearly evident statistical anomaly of hitting in Dodd, so it is shameful that he has to be reduced to name calling in order to write in a public newspaper. I understand public pride and wanting to protect your home turf, but sometimes things are not great where you live and digging your head in the sand and using childish name calling publicly does not seem to be the right thing to do, particularly if you are a journalist (oh, I’m sorry, perhaps he’s a columnist and allowed to do that; it’s still childish).

It is no worse than their GM, who told me in a reply when I asked him what he was going to do about the park, that even if this is true, players should instead focus on hitting into the gaps and running like heck. Tell that to Bengie Molina or any other power hitters who can’t run a lick.

Then, to make it worse, they could have resodded the field – they had to do it anyway, it was in their contract – so that the fences would be closer, but ESPN or Showtime (don’t remember who) paid them some money in order to film that show about the Yankees and for some reason that was reason enough not to resod into a new configuration but keep the old configuration.

I think that would have been trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, but at least it would have been an attempt to make things more normal for our prospects.

So I’ll be more than happy when the Giants announce a new AA affiliation, perhaps the new place could be worse, but I’m betting that it would have to be an improvement, they could move to almost any other park in the Eastern League and it would be a huge improvement.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on May 27, 2008 9:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You've answered your own questions

I just don’t see Dodd as that big a problem. If you have all the data you’ve cited above and half a baseball brain, it’s easy to make an assessment of who is ready to move up. That’s particularly true if you have scouts you trust watching the actual games in Dodd. If someone is hitting it on the screws but making a lot of outs in Dodd because of the wind, he’s ready. Ignore the average. Players have to play in all sorts of weather. If anything, Dodd is an advantage in assessing players because we get extensive data on how they do in less than prime situations. As Perez wrote, players like Bowker and Holm show their worth by adjusting and becoming Eastern League all-stars.

by NearestNorwich on May 27, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree completely.

by Evan on May 27, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, let's say you are a prospect

You hit the ball on screws but they are going for outs (or who knows, foul balls too), but you don’t know (or don’t care) that the park messes up everyone’s power. So you go away from what got you up there in the first place, in an effort to get your power back. When that don’t work, you try something else. Repeat umpteen times because you are now a desperate prospect hoping to show you still got whatever it was you had that got you there. And pretty soon, you forget what it was that got you there in the first place.

I think that happened with Ishikawa. His road numbers his first season at Dodd were very much like his numbers in San Jose, showing that he retained his skills and adjusted to the higher level at AA. However, because his Dodd numbers sucked big time, he got held back in AA in 2007, and got into all sorts of bad habits because he couldn’t hit on the road or at home anymore. He’s probably better off going to another team and trying again, he’s still pretty young.

If there is anyone in our farm system I expect to “Jack Cust”, it would be Ishikawa. Given the known difficulties of hitting there, why not see what he can do in AAA rather than keeping that old guy (McClain) around since we are going to lose him next year anyway, he’s out of options and I don’t see him coming back here if he has a chance to leave (and there’s probably no team who’s going to take him on given the poor numbers he has shown in AA.

And it’s not like he’s going to be a star, but he could have been an OK complementary player, probably a platoon player at 1B who plays gold glove type defense. Luckily Bowker developed and maybe if the Giants didn’t start his clock in 2006, Ishikawa could have “Bowkered” for us at some point, but probably he will be gone already if he ever does that.

Adoptive parental unit of Kevin "Most Spectacular Pitcher" Pucetas.

"I'm a Giant now... I like watching the ball get up there" - Wendell Fairley
"I'm really proud to be on this team." - Nate Schierholtz

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on May 28, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

San Jose

About San Jose, all I can say is that I saw one of the most mammoth homers I’ve ever seen hit by Travis Ishikawa there a couple of years ago and he’s a lefty. If the winds were holding up that ball, then that ball could have flew into orbit, he just mashed it and it would have been a splash hit in AT&T if the wind was holding it back.

Adoptive parental unit of Kevin "Most Spectacular Pitcher" Pucetas.

"I'm a Giant now... I like watching the ball get up there" - Wendell Fairley
"I'm really proud to be on this team." - Nate Schierholtz

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on May 27, 2008 9:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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