MLB, marketing geniuses
by Mayor of 311 on May 26, 2008 10:50 PM PDT
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PrintFrom the people who brought you World Series with only night games and a structure that now permits teams to have evening starts for Saturday games throughout the summer -- both moves guaranteeing that young fans don't develop into lifelong baseball fans -- we now have a Memorial Day with... nothing. I think I remember that Memorial Day has always had a triple-header on ESPN or a national game carried by MLB's broadcast partner. Am I mistaken? Why would MLB schedule so few games on Memorial Day?
Question: What is your least favorite thing about how MLB or even individual teams relate to their customers?
I personally find it unforgiveable to schedule evening games on Saturdays all through the summer (I have a 2 1/2 year old son who I take to weekend games, but cannot if they start at 6)... and this wasn't made totally clear before I bought my season tix. I also find it unpleasant that there was no baseball today (other than a Cubs game on WGN, which I don't care about).
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Not having every team in the Majors playing a game on Memorial Day is a pretty egregious error (oversight?) in my opinion. Just plain stupid.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on May 26, 2008 11:32 PM PDT reply actions
You are nicer than I am. There is no way it’s an oversight. It’s a choice, and I agree it’s a stupid one.
DFA all Giants over 34 years old.
by Mayor of 311 on May 27, 2008 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I was pretty surprised and disappointed
None of the three teams I follow- the Giants, A’s, and Padres- were playing.
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
Memorial Day Baseball
I remember when ALL times would play and sometimes would have a doubleheader scheduled for this weekend. Maybe some teams can play summer day games – like SF – but they can be killer in places like Hotlanta, St Louis, Miami etc.
Agreed re locations where weather doesn't permit it
although in 1977, I saw a game on a hot Saturday afternoon in St. Louis and everyone survived. Anecdotes aside, though, there is no reason San Francisco Giants games should start at 6 on all Saturday home games through the summer except, I think, one. Grrr.
DFA all Giants over 34 years old.
by Mayor of 311 on May 27, 2008 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
so many choices
I’ll vote for the zealous prevention of any mlb clips on youtube. I understand the notion that you want to protect your product from theft, but since they’re not selling it, why not let us see it. I’d buy the Rod Beck game (no, it’s not the Brian Johnson game), but they won’t either sell it or let me see it online. And another thing, these kids today with their baggy pants and their rap music…
I got one word for you: "youneverknow"
iawtc
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2008 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions
You don't like baggy pants?
If you like things that are funny, perhaps you will enjoy ChatterBalks Dot Com?
Not since they beat me up in high school… jerks….
Rap music’s cool, though. It always stood up for me.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll keep my pants above my knees thank you.
And also Rap sucks.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Freezing Giants Blog
Hey, you leave rap alone!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I blame the dog. >:(
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
bro
baggy pants arent really “in” anymore.. rap music doesnt really exist anymore either, its called hip hop now
put the doobie down, bro!
Rap is now called hip hop? Really?!? That’s news to me.
Something tells me that your a fan of neither genre, as that generalization is the furthest thing from the truth.
Rap is that shit that has found a home on commercial radio and MTV. Rap is all about bling, blingin’ it and smacking bitches and hoes because it gives you more of a “street cred”. Rap has zero substance to it and is so full of posers that it’s next to impossible to keep track of who’s hot and who’s not.
Hip hop is about a lifestyle. Fashion, DJ’s, graffiti, spoken word, B-boys and B-girls….from Grandmaster Flash to Heavy D…from A Tribe Called Quest to The Roots. These are artists with groundbreaking talent. This is the stuff that’s the furthest from being a flash in the pan.
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on May 27, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
‘sides, the only stuff out there worth my money is alternative hip-hop anyway. The mainstream stuff is beyond awful.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2008 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Couldn’t agree with you more.
Did you hear that Jurassic 5…only the coolest super-group from LA has broken up? I’ll be honest…I cried. :(
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on May 28, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude. :(
Would telling you that Lyrics Born recently released his new album cheer you up?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 28, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow...good call
Thanks for the pickup Baron! I knew I could rely on you for something like that.
I’ve never heard of him, but really like what I’m hearing on the ol’ iTunes. I’m going to have to pick up some of his stuff. He’s got a great funk sound to him and you can’t go wrong with that. Thanks again for the tip.
Oh, we also need a OT Music thread ‘round here again…it’s been too long and I’ve got all kinds of new gems that I’ve stumbled across that need some special attention.
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on May 28, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Lyrics Born. He does a lot of really cool stuff and has great flow. Plus he’s local! He got his start DJing at UC Davis and does a lot of work with artists in the Bay Area.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 29, 2008 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions
it's an easy shot, but...
the blackout rules on MLB.TV. I could maybe kind of sort of possibly forgive blackouts of home game, but not away games. It’s perverse that the only time I can watch Giants games live online is when I’m traveling on the road.
Ok, I’m not hinged to baseball like most on the McC so WHY is it bad to have an all night game World Series? To me it seems like its better to allow more people to come home and watch the dang game (kids included). Kinda similar to basketball playoffs, etc. And is a Saturday night game a sin? I’m sure there’s plenty o’ reasons but I ain’t thinkin’ right now. What’s the deal?
And my vote for stupid MLB sh*t: the slap on the wrist, turn a blind eye, steroid policy.
-D
Night WS games. Well, they start at 5 on the west coast. Not bad. If you’re an east coast baseball fan, the game starts at 8 and ends at 11:30, or later if it goes long. That in itself is harmful that people have to stay up that late. Also, kids are in bed at 9, or 10 and they can’t stay up as late.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Freezing Giants Blog
Right, and what's worse...
... the games don’t actually start at 5 p.m. PST, but more like 5:35 p.m. PST/8:35 p.m. EST. So the games on the east coast NEVER end until after 11:35 p.m., which is obviously no way to develop a young fan base.
Likewise Saturday night games. Weekend day games are when parents can take little kids to the games (older kids can attend just fine). That’s how to develop a fan base for the future.
DFA all Giants over 34 years old.
by Mayor of 311 on May 27, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Agree that WS start times are awful....
...but as a child, who among us did not take the little portable AM radio and hide it under your pillow ? That’s what baseball fans do.
The regular season Saturday night games is just plain stupid, as is the fact that there were very few Memorial Day games this year. Only eleven of the thirty teams played :-(
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
How do an odd number of teams play?
DFA all Giants over 34 years old.
by Mayor of 311 on May 27, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
If I may
Ten teams play games, and the eleventh team is forced to play with itself. Themselves?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice Save Baron !
That’s what I get for posting in a hurry. It should read ” Eleven Games Played” .
Too Much Fail this morning :-(
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
All aboard the failboat
Lord knows I’ve driven the failboat full speed ahead several times on this blog. It happens to the best of us. All you can do is make a vague masturbation joke.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Vague masturbation is cool and all, but I really prefer some of the other varieties. Mutual, for instance.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Not much vague about that.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I tuned my radio/tape/CD player to KNBR for games when I was supposed to be asleep many nights as a wee one. Kept it on very very low and listened through the final pitch.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
We used to catch NVSFG JR, when she was an 8 year old doing the same thing. She did not have a “portable” radio so she used to do it with her clock radio ! Wait….think about it… you know that had to hurt. That’s a gamer :-)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
Portable AM radio???
OH! You’re talking about my cell phone. You don’t have to speak in code, man.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Back In Prehistoric Times....
....they had these little AM/FM Radios powered by size “c” batteries :-)
I think my daughters are about the same age as many of the McCoven.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
Don’t get me wrong, I lived back in the age the “cassete tape.” I just thought it was funny.
Cell phones don’t actually have AM radio, anyway. For some reason they still only come with FM radio tuners. Them and mp3 players. Man, if there was an mp3 player that tuned into am radio and didn’t suck at everything else or was an iPod, I’d buy it.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 27, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Cassette tapes ? In my day we used ” 8 Track Tapes” young man. And we liked it :)
I’m with you though on the mp3 or cell phone that has an AM radio. My Blackberry only has an FM tuner. What’s the deal with that anyway ? I think you should get work on that right away :)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
I’ve said several times that I actually enjoy the Saturday night 6:05 starts. My reasons: 1) I no longer write game recaps so it doesn’t bother me. The 6:05 start did bother me when I did the recaps because it meant my whole Saturday was shot. B) It gets the Giants away from the asinine FUX broadcasts so if I can’t make it out to a Saturday night game, I can still enjoy it on television with our regular broadcasters. Your mileage may vary, of course.
However, not having baseball on Memorial Day…now that’s just downright un-American.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2008 7:23 AM PDT reply actions
that's why we have the sat night games
because MLB bends over for Fox routinely.
I don’t get why FOX ever managed to get the World Series. Oh here’s why, FOX offered MLB the most money. MLB didn’t give two shits about the quality of the broadcast they would be getting.
Here’s what really blows: Fox has Saturday afternoon baseball and they’ve managed to get a deal that says that other teams, even those NOT being covered by a fox broadcast, can’t show a game on local tv during the time the fox game is on. I’m not sure if this same deal exists for ESPN national games, but I doubt it. Certainly not on like Wednesday nights. So Fox basically decides what game you will watch on saturday, so even if it’s not the game you want, you end up watching it anyway because it’s the only game on. Frankly, it’s good when the team moves the game out of the fox slot, so it can be on tv.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
So Fox basically decides what game you will watch on saturday, so even if it’s not the game you want, you end upwatching it anyway because it’s the only game onnot watching Saturday Afternoon baseball .
Fixed that for you :-) I will not watch/listen to Fox Baseball Coverage . The rare exception is if the Giants are on, and then I’ll turn off the sound and listen to the radio. Kind of rough when Miller is calling a play that hasn’t happened yet though. Jack “Suck” and Shut Up Tim McCarver are just too much to put up with.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
I do the same, radio on, TV muted when the G’s are on a Saturday broadcast. Hanging through the delay from radio to TV: gamer.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 27, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Rupert Murdoch
is the fulcrum of evil in this universe. FOX is simply the way he chooses to exercise it.
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
shudder
Just bring up his name is enough to send me into convulsions!
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on May 27, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
scheduled doubleheaders
i always used to look forward to those days, plan a day off work or school, and spend all day listening to the giants…now double headers seem like punishment
my adoptive son is pat misch... because he goes exactly six innings and gives up exactly 4 runs in every start. as joe morgan says, "thats consistecy"
by Headhunter Rollins on May 27, 2008 12:36 PM PDT reply actions
or 4 for that matter.
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on May 27, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
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