Open Gameday Thread, 5/18
by Grant Brisbee on May 18, 2008 11:31 AM PDT
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I am truly awful when it comes to maintaining an updated list of Giants blogs. New blogs come, and I forget to put them up. Old blogs defunctify, and I forget to take them down. Throughout it all, I forget to link to the ones that consistently put out great content, like Xanthan's Bay City Ball, Martin's Obsessive Giants Compulsive, Brute/Baron's work at SF Dugout, and Chulk/Kenshin's work at Giants Cove.
Don't stay too long, though. You'll get bad ideas. Like, if you go to Bay City Ball, you'll read actual analysis, and then you'll expect that kind of stuff here. Don't hold your breath, though I do have a post in the works that analyzes Zito within the context of Calvinball. Preview: It turns out that he's really good.
Then there are the new blogs that I neglect to mention, like Orange, Black, and Blue. Andrew Baggerly has a new blog here that looks fantastic. Bonus points: He gives a shout out to Steve S.
I've updated my blogroll, so let me know if I've prematurely ditched or forgotten one.
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Happy Cain Day!
Danks just sounds like a dreary pitcher. I smell a 3-run offensive explosion! (or maybe it is the eggs and hash browns I had for breakfast)
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 11:37 AM PDT reply actions
You've listed my favorites
Although some are in need of updates (you know who you are) (but like I should talk).
Any predictions on which one inning the Giants will score during today?
My money is on the second inning.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
BTW – I’m hoping some day to hone my blarging skills enough to deserve a link.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
Thanks for the links
Always enjoy reading Schulman and Baggarly.
How ‘bout winning one today for the fans Cain.
Must-win?
The subject line is kind of a joke, but for this team’s psyche, the difference between an “abysmal” 3-7 homestand and a “poor” 4-6 homestand is probably important. Let’s see if they can score 4 runs for Cain, and actually let Wilson try and close a game again.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
I hope we lose(with cain get a ND)
because if we win with todays lineup, say hello to everyday vets. This “re-building” is starting to turn in to a complete joke.
I see what you mean
Lineup:
Winn RF
Castillo 3B
Durham 2B
Molina C
Rowand CF
Aurilia 1B
Ortmeier LF
Burriss SS
Cain P
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
The Winning Formula
R. Winn rf
J. Castillo 3b
R. Durham 2b
B. Molina c
A. Rowand cf
R. Aurilia 1b
D. Ortmeier lf
E. Burriss ss
M. Cain p
Castillo batting second.
ack. he’s like 0-12 there or something.
on the positive side he’s batting .262 .325 .447 with OPS+ 101, and the thirty million double plays.
oh and he 27, like Ort and Lewis (who are also sporting OPS+ above 100).
Castillo hits doubles.
Hey Grant want to give a shout to my blog?
It’s been around for a while and the original author was falling out of favor with his readers. He wanted me to bring a new perspective to it so I’m going to start writing for him. Although I haven’t started yet, I’m sure the readers will kick him out soon enough. Here is the link.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
i don't like tom brady
but he’s sporting a giants hat at the celtics game
i just saw that...
so i turn to the internet McCoven – why is Tom Brady sporting a SF Giants cap?
Castillo hits doubles.
because hes from the bay area
and grew up a niner/giants fan. His dad used to have season tickets for both the niners and giants
Don't forget Giovanni carmazzi
The patriots play the niners this year at candlestick…I bet he’s going to make us feel it for passing on him.
Interesting tidbit from Andrew Baggarly today:
Neukom expressed his dedication to player development, said he loves dropping by the minor league complex during spring training and quoted former American League president Bobby Brown, who told him that “baseball is farming.”
“We come from this unbelievably historic situation of having this great talent and now we have to do it in a more conventional way, bringing people in the system, bringing them along the Giants way and relying to a large extent on home-grown talent,” Neukom said.
Sabean said he was heartened by those comments.
“We’ve been on such a treadmill as far as needing immediate results or instant gratification,” Sabean said. “The game doesn’t work like that. There are times you have to exercise more patience and you’ll have down years or transition years. The more you understand that, the more you’ll have the patience to let that process play out.”
Wow
Sabean’s comment might be glad-handing for the press, but it’s a pretty explicit slam of Magowan/Baer/etc. and the “win now” philosophy.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
watching the A's game until the giants come on
where did this Alan Embree come from? I remember a much worse pitcher named Alan Embree.
you can't block the Bocock
the total package is still lacking too,
he has a .605 RZR, last in the NL
you can't block the Bocock
Interesting Stat
First 41AB 0 walks
Next 101 AB 13 walks
He only walked 6 times in 221 AB last year with the Pirates.
Carney teaching patience?
Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.
i'm going to guess
that Miguel Cabrera even has a better ranking them him, and he’s been moved off 3b.
Castillo hits doubles.
Hmm, no, looks like Cabrera’s a little worse.
(I’m looking at the Hardball Times numbers, which of course are pretty crude.)
yuck.
.556 RZR for Lamb.
Castillo at least gets to decent number of out of zone balls.
I don’t think Carney can improve the D, though.
you can't block the Bocock
Castillo has been a pretty poor defensive 2b
for most of his career. hopefully more time at 3rd can get him up a level that’s not “the worst” or second worst. and maybe he can even get good. Feliz wasn’t top of the league until his 31/32 year old seasons right?
Castillo hits doubles.
Jose Castillo: He's Not Pedro
And that’s a good thing, He’s costing us at most $650K; maybe as little as the MLB minimum of $390K. Feliz is getting 2 years times $4.25MM plus incentives.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on May 18, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
"concentration, focus attitude"
I’m sorry, but what do any of those have to do with hitting a baseball?
I don't know
It seems like concentration has a little something to do with hitting a baseball.
Only 928 games until the end of Zito's contract
Thanks for the shout-out Grant...
I’d do a shout out for you, but no one reads our boards. :P
SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!
Nate’s back in the lineup for the Grizz today, FYI.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
Our cleanup hitter is sporting a .712 OPS.
Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.
Cain
Looks especially…fluffy today. Also, pitching well.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions
His hair is very curly today. I’m purely being silly in this observation.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
the hair
Personally, I love it. I think the whole I-am-a-good-pitcher-I-must-look-like-a-badass thing has gone too far. Just imagine if the guy who strikes you out looks like a cuddly pinup on a prebubescent ‘70s girl’s wall.
I mean, that just smarts.
I would love the tight curls, myself. The best I can do is waves, when it’s not humid. Then I just look like a mammal died on my head.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anybody watch Strong Bad email?
Because JT’s announcing = College Radio Style
you can't block the Bocock
I like Matt Cain
He pitches scoreless innings for the Giants.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
if the Matt Cain ever discovers location for good..
..he will be very hard to hit.
Fingers crossed.
Maybe it's a good thing we didn't cut Richie off, yet?
Only 928 games until the end of Zito's contract
Gone
And bandaged. I haven’t seen it yet. I had to teach the day after my surgery. That’s not good. The wound opened a little but not too much. It seems to be healing now that I’m taking it easy a little bit more. I can’t wait to be able to walk again. Anyways, it doesn’t hurt usually, so there’s that.
Only 928 games until the end of Zito's contract
Is Vizquel resting because
A) he old
B) coming off an injury
C) night game yesterday
D) give Burriss/young guy a start?
Castillo hits doubles.
Facts about Hawk Harrelson:
1) Was the worst GM this side of Cam Bonifay
2) Really Annoying
you can't block the Bocock
Just shut up, Papa
I can’t believe they are singing the praises of the biggest asshat in broadcast history.
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 1:49 PM PDT reply actions
It’s making me lose my appetite.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
First I had to put up with two straight nights of that POS. Now, even though I get to watch the Giants feed, he’s still the center of attention?...
,,l,
"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
by sfgiantsflgators on May 18, 2008 1:53 PM PDT reply actions
What are the odds the White Sox have two guys named Denks and Jenks? I don’t know what made me think about this.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Durham's a league-average hitter this year
..if he’s back, he can be traded.
Oh please, for a promising hitter…
..and we suck
If you can get an A-potential hitting prospect in A-ball for him, you trade.
SHINY!
On-base machine people. Get him while he’s hot!
"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
by sfgiantsflgators on May 18, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
blame it on the Jenks or Denks or whoever
hope Rowand takes some pitches here.
Castillo hits doubles.
Trivia
Aparicio?
"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
by sfgiantsflgators on May 18, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions
Ding.
"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
by sfgiantsflgators on May 18, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh, I’m tired of everyone telling us that booing AJ doesn’t bother him at all. Yeah, we get it. IT MAKES US FEEL GOOD, OKAY?!
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
they are sort of backhanded compliment
at least when JT just said it. “He’s a different sort of guy.”
Castillo hits doubles.
Good news(ot)
Villalona – 4/5 double, homerun, 4 rbis
according to Bobby Evans
he’s still taking grounders at 3B, but they put him at 1B to get him through the minors faster
Matt does look different
The back of his hair has the Carol Brady flip
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 2:01 PM PDT reply actions
Rowand would have had that foul pop that Winn skipped around
He wouldn’t let some wimpy bullpen mound stop him from making an out.
Only 928 games until the end of Zito's contract
I’m coming around on Amy. She’s less awkward and unknowledgable-seeming now.
you can't block the Bocock
WOOD
lol Jermaine Dye went to Wood High School. In high school my marching band competed against Wood at the time. We even brought blocks of Wood to cheer for them at the awards ceremonies.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions
at the time=all the time
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
When I was 15 crying “wood!” and waving wood around was high comedy.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I just call that a typical morning
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Great to hear Burriss is going to talk with Maury Wills
He will learn to bunt and improve his basestealing
Smoak?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Beckham
Either, really. I love shortstops who can both hit and field.
Well I really would like the Giants to get Alvarez, insane contract demands and all, but Smoak just seems to fit. Beckham wouldn’t be a bad pick at all, nor would Crow or Matsuz. But damn, can’t we just get a good hitting 1B?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Tim #2?
"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
by sfgiantsflgators on May 18, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad pitch selection
A curve wasn’t the best choice there.
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply actions
Jose Castillo
Doubles machine. When he’s not busy striking out or GIDP.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Aside from pitchers
I could see Aurilia being slower. But then I could see Ray being slower too.
Only 928 games until the end of Zito's contract
depends on the activity
Castillo transfers the ball from glove to hand like he’s underwater
you can't block the Bocock
A Tale of Two Ballgames
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times”
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The silicon chip inside his head gets switched to overload
And nobody’s gonna get a K today he’s gonna make them all touch home…
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
blurst of times
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
After watching STL, HOU, and now the Sox come in and drop bombs maybe Sabes will value the long ball a little more.
Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.
..and if wishes were horses..
..we’d have drafted Wright instead of Brad Hennessey.
This is a pitcher's park
if you’re the Giants. If you’re the visiting team, it’s a goddamn bandbox, apparently.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Runner on 3rd
Rally killing situation
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 2:44 PM PDT reply actions
technically...yes
but based on how the giants have been handling the weaker parts of opponents batting orders, this next inning is where the White Sox bust it open.
by ExcuseMeSwing on May 18, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Reverse Pennant Race!
Padres and Rockies both leading their games in the late inning. If they hold on for wins, and we lose, we’re tied for last place! Hello, #1 pick!
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
we’d be tied with San Diego AND Seattle
by ExcuseMeSwing on May 18, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants might possibly get swept, and my fantasy team is suddenly down 6-7 when I was up 8-5 last night. Not a good baseball day for me.
Orlando x2
A crappy outing. no excuse for this
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
Well this is awful.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 18, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions
Is Cain going
to have an off year? He’s been OK, but certainly not what everyone thought
As JT has been discussing on the radio, he’s been great the first time through the lineup, then gets shelled the 2nd and (slightly less so) 3rd time through.
I’m going to say he’s had an off-day today. He had given up 6 HR in all his starts before today and he’s given up 4 in the last three innings.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
that's from the majors, right?
I wish there were more info on minor league splits.
you can't block the Bocock