Hinshaw up, Frandsen to 60-day DL
by xanthan on May 15, 2008 11:54 AM PDT
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From Rotoworld
Giants purchased the contract of LHP Alex Hinshaw from Triple-A Fresno.
The 25-year-old Hinshaw will make his major league debut after allowing one run in 15 2/3 innings for Fresno. There's no real upside here, but it's worth giving him a look to see if his soft stuff can fool major league hitters.
I'm not sure I've heard about his "soft stuff" I thought he was supposed to be in the lower 90s?
Anyways, he's been solid in Fresno and I hope he does well now that he's called up. Question, why wasn't Franny put on the 60-day DL a long time ago?
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Merkin
Also, it looks like Merkin is headed to the DL with a forearm strain. Probably not a good sign for him.
Rotoworld again
Giants placed RHP Merkin Valdez on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to May 14, with a right elbow strain.It’s disgusting that the Giants didn’t just do this in the first place. There was no reason at all to take a chance with Valdez’s arm in his first year back from Tommy John surgery. However, he was allowed to pitch Monday after coming down with some soreness a few days earlier and turned in his worst outing of the season to date.
by xanthan on May 15, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Make that an elbow strain.
/posts some more in his own thread
by xanthan on May 15, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s disgusting that the Giants didn’t just do this in the first place.
A good chunk of my life is dedicated to backseat managing, but, man, I hope I never come off as this condescending. I’m pretty critical of how the Giants run a lot of things, but I sure as hell don’t know anything about the new trainer. And I’m pretty sure Rotoworld doesn’t either. There could have been a very good reason to think Valdez needed a little extra rest instead of the DL.
by Grant on May 15, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it might be a tad harsh but I think you would handle a TJ survivor like Merkin with kid gloves as he works his way back. I know that Groeschner had some issues in Chicago but I’ve never read the details. I believe he was fired from the Chicago job before coming to the Giants.
by xanthan on May 15, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just not sure why Rotoworld is all righteous that he was only held out for seven days instead of 15. It’s not like the Giants threw him in both games of a doubleheader and told him to man up. Holding him out for a week might not be kid gloves, but it isn’t exactly mashing him to a pulp for the organization’s amusement.
by Grant on May 15, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Mashing a Merkin"
Sounds like an awesome dance.
“Quick, do the Merkin Mash! “
I agree, I don’t really see the abuse. I wonder if they performed any precautionary procedures with him? I never read him getting a MRI or anything in the news.
by xanthan on May 15, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting, looks like Groeschner might not have been licensed to be a trainer in Illinois during his breif tenure with the Cubs.
http://www.cubschronicle.com/wp/posts/2004/12/23/sandy-krum-sues-cubs/
Krum alleges that the Cubs fired him in retaliation for reporting to Jim Hendry that former head athletic trainer Dave Groeschner was not licensed to be an athletic trainer in Illinois.
by xanthan on May 15, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So will we not have a trainer when we visit the Cubs?
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by groug on May 15, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE SHOULD BE STARTING NOW THAT HIS ELBOW’S HURT
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on May 15, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wonderful.
And yeah, why the shit wasn’t frandsen on the DL ?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on May 15, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He was on the 15-day DL, not that it made any more sense.
by Natto on May 15, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, whats the advantage of having him on the 15-day and not the 60-day? Does it even matter?
by xanthan on May 15, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Players on the 60-day DL don’t count against the 40-man roster.
by Ed Jew on May 15, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because we didn’t have anyone else to take his spot on the 40 man roster. Moving him to the 60 day DL wouldn’t have made any difference so they waited until they needed his roster spot before making the move.
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by GiantFan on May 15, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I'm not mistaken
I believe MLB rules mandate that your 40-man should be full during the season. Since putting people on the 40-man has various (unwanted) consequences involving both finances and options/service clock, you don’t necessarily want to be opening up slots where there isn’t a specific need.
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by Roger on May 15, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the 40 man has to full
There were a few point last year we the Giants were only carrying 39. I kept waiting for a couple trades to happen because of it. In hind sight I reckon Sabean was saving the spot in case he got a waiver wire find or signed a free agent.
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by daveinexile on May 16, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome Alex! Now that makes two guys I’ve interviewed in the Show. Well three if you count Nate but initially I’d interviewed him in the AFL, after the 2007 season was done.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 15, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure I’ve heard about his “soft stuff” I thought he was supposed to be in the lower 90s?
Not to get on an anti-Rotoworld tangent again, but, yeah. He isn’t exactly Pat Misch. I appreciate the efforts to give news on every player, but this seems like a pure guess.
by Grant on May 15, 2008 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps they’re confusing him with Espinelli.
by mxmob33 on May 15, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All these LHP just get so confusing.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 15, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that struck me as very strange too. To say a pitcher who has a minor league K/9 of 11 has no upside, strikes me as poor research.
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by GiantFan on May 15, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’ve heard he has decent velocity. For what it’s worth, Sabean said he has an “electric arm”.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
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by raisingcain on May 16, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sir Alex Hinshaw
We bow down before you and welcome your to The City. Now go out there and put up zeros.
Regarding Merkin Valdez: He is 19 months removed from TJ surgery – which is plenty of time.
by wilriv21 on May 15, 2008 12:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone have a scouting report on Hinshaw?
I have searched and asked, searched and asked, but I can’t find a scouting report on the dude. What does he throw? Does he beat mimes with an olive loaf?
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by shikantaza on May 15, 2008 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If he did that second part I might have to marry him.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 15, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Olive Loaf Vigilante...
has stolen the heart of many women.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on May 15, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing says I love you like random acts of violence with lunchmeat.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 15, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t do enough Bloom County references. I can quote them like they were movie lines, but it’s a skill that I rarely get to use. I doff my cap to you, sir.
by Grant on May 15, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he’s a fastball/slider pitcher with occasional control problems. Most likely works in the low-90s.
by xanthan on May 15, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no control probs this season
none at all
by bacci40 on May 15, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well done Alex
Hopefully you can make the most of your opportunity & glad to see that i didn’t completely curse you, at least not yet anyway!
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by GiantFan on May 15, 2008 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
According to The Cube
Drafted:
Selected by San Francisco Giants in 28th Round (841st overall) of 2000 amateur entry draft (June-Reg) ...
Selected by San Francisco Giants in 29th Round (877th overall) of 2002 amateur entry draft (June-Reg) ...
Selected by Florida Marlins in 25th Round (743rd overall) of 2003 amateur entry draft (June-Reg) ...
Selected by San Francisco Giants in 15th Round (462nd overall) of 2005 amateur entry draft (June-Reg)
Boy, our front office sure has a hard-on for this guy. I’m glad he finally made it up to the bigs.
http://thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Alex-Hinshaw.shtml
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 15, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to be a pessimist, but he reverts back to the walk rate he had in the Cal League, I don’t think he’ll ever be an All-Star.
by Grant on May 15, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is a Zitoesque walk rate
but the trend has been very good, though a relatively small sample size.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 15, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotoworld sucks
They seriously can’t stand the Giants. I hope Hinshaw throws a 92 MPH fastball through the basement of someone’s mom’s house where they work.
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by shn155 on May 15, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This move makes sense
The White Sox have more than one lefthanded batter on their roster. Therefore, we need another lefty reliever to get them both out.
Strategy!
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by groug on May 15, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Merkin Valdez
Personally, I think he was better when he was “MUR-kin” Valdez. He’s only been declining since he’s been “mur-KEEN” Valdez.
Ralph Barbieri, heal thyself.
by ThrillisGone22 on May 15, 2008 5:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point
Altho frankly, he has been great all season.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on May 15, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct, sir
Yeah, I actually thought he might supplant Mike Love as the closer, so it really was quite a comeback this season.
We can agree on one thing though…Manny Mateo sucked.
Ralph Barbieri, heal thyself.
by ThrillisGone22 on May 16, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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