Sabean is dumb, but not that dumb Mr. Williams

by fanofvanlandingham on May 13, 2008 10:56 PM PDT Comment 21 comments

Found this blurb funny ion SFGATE.COM:

Crede talk: With the White Sox due in this weekend, it is fair to ask why the Giants did not pull the trigger in spring training and trade for Chicago third baseman Joe Crede, who had seven homers and 25 RBIs through Monday.

According to a source, the White Sox first asked the Giants for Jonathan Sanchez, then upped their demand to Sanchez plus either pitchers Madison Bumgarner or Tim Alderson, the team's top two draft picks in 2007, or 17-year-old first-base prospect Angel Villalona. The source said the Giants did not want to give away that much for a player set to become a free agent after the 2008 season.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/13/SPQR10LIBC.DTL

Who the hell would give up any of those guys for Crede? Is this source just a crackhead from the southside? Could the Giants have even traded Bumgarner this summer? Sanchez alone to me would have been an overpayment.

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The source..

White Sox SB Nation fanpost.

by mxmob33 on May 13, 2008 11:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I remember that fanpost

It was called a Diary at the time.

I’m pretty sure the writer thought the Sox should be getting Sanchez, Bumgarner, Alderson, and Villalona for Crede, though, not just two of the five.

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by howtheyscored on May 14, 2008 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i doubt sabean would have traded sanchez for crede straight up.. i wouldnt at least

by Azmanz on May 13, 2008 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

i think a fair # on here

would have done that deal before the season started

by slojoe on May 13, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least one

I can tell you at least one who WOULDN’T have done the Sanchez/Crede deal before the season began. You don’t successfully rebuild by making expediency sacrifices like that one.

by sharksrog on May 14, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hell, i didnt even want to trade Lowry

by slojoe on May 14, 2008 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

offereing for Lowry..

And the deal was done in my mind. Once he went down in ST with an injury I thought he’d never pitch in baseballa gain.

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by WalrusMan on May 14, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hell no. Just the opposite, everyone here was afraid that we’d make a deal like that for Crede. Speaking for myself, Sanchez is up there with Cain and Lincecum in my lack of desire to trade him. Kid’s gonna be something.

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by Skaldheim on May 14, 2008 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont recall that...

maybe most didnt want Crede…
there was thread after thread dealing with which pitchers the giants should deal- most said
Lowry, but some were also ready to deal Sancheeze

by slojoe on May 14, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crede was perceived as damaged goods entering a contract year

Sabean wisely offered slop for him.

I can hardly believe he didn’t cave.

by Moggeee on May 13, 2008 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

link doesnt work

what exactly did sabean offer?

by slojoe on May 13, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apparently, less than Sanchez

who at the time was not even projected as a starter

by Moggeee on May 13, 2008 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait until the trade deadline has passed.

Then we can really say that Sabean isn’t that dumb.

Until then, anything can happen.

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by Anticon23 on May 13, 2008 11:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If that is true...

Then wow, Williams is a fool to think Sabean would fall for that.

Or am I the fool for thinking Sabean wouldn’t fall for that?

by withclubsauce on May 13, 2008 11:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow that’s just… delusional on a whole special level right there. For JOE CREDE???

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by jponry on May 14, 2008 4:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Right. It’s not like Sabes makes an historically unequal trade with an AL Central team every single week.

by 2X2L on May 14, 2008 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice.

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by Lyle on May 14, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It hurts my brain to know there are people out there this stupid, honestly.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2008 7:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

One problem with this story

Baseball rules would have prohibited trading either Bumgarner or Alderson this spring. In fact, I believe they even prohibit trying to circumvent the rule with a handshake deal on a PTBNL. When a major detail of a story is actually impossible, it tends to make me doubt the story as a whole.

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by Roger on May 14, 2008 9:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I like how it says Williams asked for Sanchez originally and then also asked for additional and more valuable prospects. That’s negotiating in the wrong direction.

How bout Crede for Sanchez straight up? No? Ok then, toss in Bumgarner or Alderson and its a deal. No again huh? Alright alright, you’re busting my balls here, but I’ll do it. You give me Sanchez, Alderson, and Villalona, and Joe Crede is your starting 3B in 2008.

by hammystyle on May 14, 2008 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs