Can someone fill me in on our minor league hitters?
by joe t on May 13, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
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PrintCan we legitimately be optimistic for guys like D'Alessio or is he just old for the league he's in? How about Sandoval? Any chance on guys like EME or Copeland? Is Nate projected as anything more than a 4th outfielder? Assuming Villalona (is that Spanish for "village of the Lion?" If it's not then it should be because that's cool) is at least three years away from making a real contribution at the major league level, do any of these guys stand a chance of making a contribution in the next couple of years?
When you compare our system to other systems, do we have legit hitters coming through the pipeline? Is it better now than, say, 10 years ago?
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Here are our Legit Hitting Prospects.
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to be honest
we have a average farm system, not so many hitters, but we’re loaded with pitchers. Also, most of our talent is in the low minors right now. I know Felipe Alou loved Sandoval and the director of player management said that he’s a potential future allstar. Our two first round pitchers from last year could shoot through the farm system as they are pitching quite well right now. Other than Schierholtz, however, i can’t really get excited about anybody in Conneticut or Fresno (as a hitter). Adam Witter might be intruiging though.
well Felipe also "loved" Jose Capellan
i like the relievers- i think were stacked with relief pitching in the upper minors…
not sure if thats good though if the best you can claim is stacked with relievers
What's your point with Capellan?
It would have been a huge stretch to keep him in the big leagues after what, never pitching above A ball before. You make it sound like hes a busted prospect. The guy is like 21, he could still be good, we just couldn’t afford to hide him on our staff for a whole year to gain his rights.
the point is i dont place put a lot of stock
into what prospects Felipe loves…..and it was a dumb rule 5 pick, probably at the behest of Felipe if i heard Sabean correctly…they could have drafted someone who really had a chance to make the team like a corner infielder…..
that may be the case
though I doubt Felipe Alou was in charge of the Rule V draft. That still doesn’t take away from the potential of Pablo Sandoval. I don’t see the association, just because someone choose a bad Rule V pick (though most are returned anyway) doesn’t mean he can’t judge talent. Anyway its hard to argue with his production this year.
not in charge of
but, i heard Sabean say words to the effect that they drafted Capellan only because Felipe was so high on him…
i dont mean anything about Pablo, sorry about that…just couldnt resist dig at Felipe….
i dont think he can judge talent
i think the only reason Felipe is around is because Sabean and/or Magowan felt bad about the way he was treated….
It's a waste of 25,000.
In the big scheme if Capellan would have turned out it was a great pickup. 25,000 is nothing. It was a good gamble. Who would they have picked up as a corner infielder?
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i dont mind rule 5 picks for $25,000
but why that guy, slim to no chance- they are loaded with relievers that arent too far away….
i dont know what the 3B were avail. in Rule 5, but they were being discussed on here and would have made a hell of a lot more sense – any infielders, for that matter….
Yes we were loaded with relievers..
But the only lefties that had a shot were in the mix were Taschner and Threets. Taschner had been meh in his short career but always looked like he could make it. Threets was getting older and didn’t have the same velocity on his fastball that he once did. To bring in a guy that might catch you a flash in the pan lefty reliever might have been worth it.
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At the time we still had Kline...
...and he was, you know, pretty okay. Misch and Sanchez were also options, since it wasn’t clear at that point that they’d both end up starting…
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by EliminateMe on May 14, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
i guess its not either or.....
but 3B would have made the most sense to me
Brian Barton is yet another
OF who can play CF, but he had / has a much better shot of actually becoming a useful player. This year, in the majors, he has a 102 OPS. His numbers in the minors are pretty good, though he was somewhat old for his levels.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
Part of that, of course, is due to the fact that both Burriss and Bowker are currently with the big club I’d say. While neither are by any means sure things, I think either or both could develop into respectable big league regulars.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on May 13, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Villalona
I have no idea on intricacies of his name, but the thing to remember about Villalona is that he is young. Really young. Most likely 3+ years away. However, everyone still thinks he has future star potential.
Angel Villalona: Treatin' all pitches like fastballs since '07.
by AngelintheInfield on May 13, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions
The effects of Dodd Stadium
Before the final obituary is written for AA hitters EME and Ishikawa would like to see what both players can do in the friendlier confines of Fresno. EME has raked everywhere but AA Norwich. He seems to be getting healthier and is improving. Ishikawa will be out of options so why not give him a shot before possibly losing him this winter.
Brian Horwitz can hit in his sleep.
Villa del Leon is “Village of the Lion”
Villalona means “beats Bums with wooden club”
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wait… then what does “Marichal” mean?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 13, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It means that plus really high leg kick and wears spiffy suits.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It also means “getting dicked of a Cy Young Award”
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by SoFa King Mike on May 13, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Bocock was our designated Wooden Bum Beater?
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by UnleashTheGore on May 13, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The irony
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I laughed out loud
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Sandoval is close to legit if not there already. I think D’Alessio is on the bubble. I still think EME might have a shot. There’s Schierholtz of course. Does Bowker still count even though he’s up? And suddenly I have the urge to blast some White Lion while discussing AnVil.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2008 2:03 PM PDT reply actions
Wait
AnVil is not exactly what you call a “Little” Fighter.
But I will look forward to the day When the Dodger Children Cry.
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by SoFa King Mike on May 13, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
In The City
AnVil will be. Hopefully soon.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: D'Alessio
It’s not so much that he’s old for the league, since they stuck him in SJ, but he strikes out. A lot.
I think he’s a legit prospect, but, like oh so many of our other hitters, he needs to learn some patience at the plate. Why Pill (.238/.292/.415) continues to get ABs ahead of him at 1B remains a mystery to me.
Oh, and Pablo needs to be in CT.
TBH
I’m excited with our A-Ball prospects at 1B:
D’Alessio .314/.357/.525/ .883
Sandoval (maybe, he’s played there some) .413/.476/.746/1.222
Downs (plays at 2B (and 3B?) too) .274/.365/.452/.817
Neal .303/.381/.566/.947
Villalona (ugly line right now, but hey he’s what, 17?) .203/.269/.339/.608
don't forget about Nick Noonan
the fact that he is allergic to taking walks is troublesome, but hitting .297 is nothing to sneeze at for a guy in his first season of pro ball who turns 19 tomorrow (seriously, May 14th). Scouts love his bat and rave about how polished he is.
and D’Alessio is 23 which I wouldn’t say is too old for San Jose, especially considering he was just drafted last year and is in his first season of pro ball, he is a rare case of a guy playing 4 years of college ball.
Ah Jeez I keep forgetting about Noonan. I just got on his bandwagon too.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 13, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you sure?
Or did you forget to get on his bandwagon?
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We didn’t land on the bandwagon. The bandwagon landed on us.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Not his first season...
...D’Alessio played rookie ball last year, with 4 games at S-K. But maybe you meant first full season. Anyway, they made a smart choice fast-tracking him to SJ.
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the funny thing is
I read his high school scouting report and I though it said he had plus eye/pitch selection. Maybe its just a matter of time, he might be trying to prove too much.
Pitch Selection and Taking Walks are two different things
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by BruteSentiment on May 13, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Success rates
Out of an entire draft class and all the international free agent signings a typical team makes in the course of a year, about 2-3 players will ever make an impact on a ML roster. By impact, I mean they will come up and stick. Correia and Hennessey fall into this category.
Evaluating our entire system, looking at the top-30 or so prospects, granting that most are in the lower minors, probably between 5 and 10 players will pan out and become anything useful for the Giants over the next 4-5 years.
(*Note: This average could be skewed if we continue to suck and rack up top-5 picks in the draft.)
On top of that is the Giant’s penchant for drafting and developing pitchers and lack of skill with regard to hitters. Thus, about 2/3 of our success seems to be pitchers coming up. Which would mean that of the 5 to 10 players that come up and stick, only 2-3 of them will be position players.
So, yeah, the odds are really stacked against it. If we beat the odds, and AnVil becomes more than just a regular, as does the #5 pick in the upcoming draft, and 2 or 3 more players pan out to become regulars (Sandoval, Lewis, Schierholtz), then we’re doing pretty darn good.
Delaying the disappointment: I adopt Hector Sanchez because he's only 17.
My mental list looks something like this. It’s extremely scientific and it’s worth every penny you paid for it.
Potential regulars, currently at the upper levels:
Schierholtz, Bowker, Denker, Burriss
Potential bench contributors, currently at the upper levels:
Timpner, Witter, Bocock, Copeland, Horwitz
Star potential, but don’t get too excited because they’re a long way off:
Sandoval, Villalona, Noonan, Fairley
Extreme longshots but worth keeping an eye on:
D’Alessio, Rohlinger, Schoop, Culberson, Neal, Ishikawa,
Jackson Williams, Matt Downs
I may have forgotten a few.
I would have a level between “Star potential” and “Extreme longshots” for some of the A/A+ guys, namely
D’alessio, Neal, McBryde and a few others I can’t think of off the top of my head.
I agree
Downs, D’Alessio, Rohlinger, and Schoop are, to me, clearly a step above the others mentioned.
And I would strongly disagree about Denker. He’s Clay Timpner, but at 2B. Totally fungible at the ML level.
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Well, I don’t know much about most of those guys, so I won’t quibble. But I am sticking to my guns on Travis Denker. He’s a year younger than D’Alessio, a year and a half younger than Downs, two years younger than Rohlinger—and well ahead of them as a hitter. What they’re doing in the California League now is basically what he did there last year.
FWIW
That was Denker’s third time in High A Ball. This is their first.
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Also,
What they’re doing is slightly better than his year last year (small sample size cavet). All three are putting up close to.900 OPS this year, Denker had about .820 last year. And, more importantly, he is yet another Velez—a man without a position who’s been known to butcher pretty much every spot he tries, while at least Ryan Rohlinger is a plus defender at 3B (don’t really know how Downs stacks up as a defender).
That said, in general I agree with Evan’s point that being younger than prospects several levels below you is a thing in Denker’s favor. I’ve frequently made the same point regarding Schierholtz who is the same age or younger than guys like Copeland and Felmy.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
It’s also true that Denker spent most of his time at Inland Empire, which is a more congenial place to hit than San Jose. Still, his minor league record shows a whole range of skills - power, contact, walks - while being consistently young for the league. That puts him way ahead of virtually every Giants hitting prospect.
I wonder if he can play the outfield …
I remember a BA writeup on him a few years back on the Dodgers prospect list predicted he would end up in LF. The problem there is I’m not sure if he’s got enough bat for corner OF. He’s quite probably got the bat to be a good ML 2B if he could get his glove to stick there. It’s yet another of those instances where a good hitter’s value is tied to a bad fielder’s glove. (On the other hand, he’d almost certainly to be a better DH than Jose Vidro).
Rohlinger’s almost an opposite case. I think he’ll be a quality ML 3B glove with secondary average skills though probably low BA and lots of Ks. But if he can keep his OBP up, hit 20 HRs, he’ll advance through the minors and has a decent shot at being Pedro Feliz with better secondary average.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
I pretty much agree with the names on the list...
and would add EME, as a potential regular (although it may end up as being on another team).
What you classify as “potential regular” I might consider “semi-regular/platoon/utility” and might also put D’Alessio and Downs in there as well rather than “extreme longshot”.
But in any case, I look at this list and can only think of one word, “YECCCHHHH!!!”
We are really, Really, REALLY going to have to try to flood the system with position players. The ‘08 draft seems to be rather deep in position players. The time is now. And in the ‘09 draft. We can talk about drafting pitching, pitching, and more pitching and then trade the excess off for hitters, but wouldn’t it just be more efficient and a surer bet to develop our own players? A big part of the Yankees’ success was to draft and develop a core group of players and have them move up to the majors together. Sure they spent big bucks on some free agents, but that was to fill in whatever holes they had.
And who was that guy who had a lot to do with the Yanks’ player development? It can’t have been that long ago and in a world that was so very different than it is now that there is no hope of him doing it again… or can it?
by baseballjunkie on May 13, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
ownership ownership ownership
Maybe it’s not all Sabean’s Fault ?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on May 13, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
How many owners actually interfere with the draft
to the point of dictating which players get drafted, and how they are developed after they are drafted? What indication is there that the Giants owners do interfere with the draft?
If Sabean has so little power, why is he even GM? Also, there’s that statement that Sabean made about Michael Tucker, veterans, and draft picks, which I won’t repost again.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
I'm just saying
It’s possible. Sabean had a decent track record w/ farm development before coming here, and has complained about the lack of budget for development.
Ownership may not say “draft this guy” – but they certainly may say “you only get this much $$ for the draft” which can be pretty equivilent.
Of course, I have no proof.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on May 14, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes, people who
were decent at player developement end up horrible when they become GMs. Sabean isn’t the first and won’t be the last.
Furthermore, things change. Just as players change as they get older, managers and GMs can change too. Situations change. MLB today, is different from when Sabean was a scout with the Yankees. And a GM has different responsibilities from someone involved in scouting.
Also, it’s often hard to tell just whom is responsible for what, when it comes to drafting and player developement.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
Essentially any owner who insists on following slot
is interfering in the drafting process, and there are quite a few of those owners, including by and large, though not as slavishly as Houston or Pittsburgh, ours.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.
Well, yeah, a whole bunch of owners
follow slot. The A’s follow slot slavishly too. How are the Giants different from other MLB teams? If the large majority of GMs are working with the same handicap, is it really all that much of a handicap?
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
Nice list
Very nice list. A couple of thoughts I’d like to mention:
. I’m iffy on Manny Burriss as a bona fide starter because of his almost total lack of pop. If not for his infield hits, Manny would be batting about the same as Brian Bocock, although he doesn’t strike out nearly as often and has clearly moved ahead of Brian.
. I don’t see Denker as a potential regular. I guess EVERYONE is a POTENTIAL regular, but while Travis can hit and take a walk, he has little power nor a true position, although second base would be most likely. Maybe a utlilityman, although that would be weakened by an inability to play shortstop.
. Brian Horwitz can be a .300 hitter—but you still called him correctly as only a bench player since he is a corner outfielder with very few secondary skills. Sad that a guy can hit as well as the former Cal Bear and yet not really be a prospect. Shows the importance of secondary skills.
. Pablo Sandoval is having an amazing season, but I’m not entirely sure we should get so carried away by it that we label him a potential star. He’s repeating San Jose, after all, and is likely there only because he needs a lot of work as a catcher and can get it from manager Steve Decker, the former Giants backstop. I kind of see Pablo as a future Bengie Molina-type—.270 hitter, pretty good pop, few walks, strong arm, although Pablo isn’t nearly as polished behind the plate as Bengie was. I would certainly take that behind the plate, but I wouldn’t consider it quite star level.
. I really like Nick Noonan’s swing, but I don’t see him as a true star, either. Pretty close though, with a good batting average and just a little pop. If he could field well enough to play shortstop, maybe he WOULD be a star—but not quite at second base IMO.
. Wendell Fairley is a real wild card. I love his swing too, but he’s as raw as steaks just delivered to your favorite local restaurant. We might never see Wendell in SF, or we might see him in some All-Star games.
Maybe “extreme” is too extreme. But really all of the Giants’ position prospects are longshots except for Schierholtz. And I wouldn’t go placing any substantial bets on him.
Maybe "extreme" is too extreme. But really all of the Giants’ position prospects are longshots except for Schierholtz.
Nicely put. I know that Downs is “old” for his level. He did start late, and has performed solidly at each level from his senior year at Alabama on. This year at SJ he has played five positions. Most of his time so far has been at 2B. That would not bode well for a MLB career with Noonan waiting in the wings :-) He swings a pretty consistent bat, and IMO tops out at an MLB average 2B or a good Utility INF.
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Augusta
Nick Noonan: More than holding his own at low A, although would love to see higher OBP, but seems like things are on track, having cut down on early season errors, showing good speed and hitting pretty consistently. Just turned 18 so should be at least 3 years away, so has time to develop more power. A very good to good chance he turns out to be a poor, poor man’s Chase Utley. What does that mean? I don’t know, I guess not an All-star, but a pretty good player (B++)
Angel Villalona: his stats look ugly, but at this stage I think I’m looking for more secondary things, like whether he’s maintaining his weight, whether he’s focused and concentrating during games, whether he’s throwing to the right bases and making good decisions, base-running, the fundamentals that we don’t see in players like Eugenio. Maybe some Augustans who have watched the games can give us some eye-witness testimonials of such things. But he’s still so young and raw that I’m not worried. He’s playing against pitchers, mostly 2 or 3 years older. We’ve gotta keep the faith on Angel cause he’s the only true blue-chip position prospect we’ve had since Royce Clayton. (A-)
Charlie Culberson: He started out slow at short-season last year but came on strong late in the year. But right now he seems overmatched, especially defensively, which was supposed to be his strong suit. I don’t want to give up on him, but he looks like a long shot. (D+)
Thomas Neal: Has intriguing tools, big and athletic, but he lost a year due to injury so is a bit old for a low A prospect, although not that old, 3 years older than Villalona, which puts how young V is into perspective. He will need to move up fast to even be on the same pace as Nate Schierholtz. I say he’s a semi-prospect for now. (C+)
San Jose
Pablo Sandoval: Of course he’s been flat out raking, but I’ve liked him even last year and I think he’s cemented himself as a true prospect if he can stay at catcher defensively. Scouts have always liked his bat. And he’s young and has infectious enthusiasm for the game. A crowd favorite type. (A-)
Andy D’Alessio: He’s always had a big bat, but from the video I’ve seen, defensively he looks like a lumbering giant. Well, we haven’t associated “lumber” and “giant” first baseman in a while so as long as he flashes his power, I guess we can live with the DH defense. He’s not young, so it would be nice if he can move up a level this year. If he shows something at AA, I think he can be considered a legit B prospect. (B-)
Connecticut
Eddy-M-Esteve: Was always a pure hitter, can bat .300 with eyes closed kinda guy, but we’ve had a few of those in the past that didn’t pan out (Torcato, anyone). Can’t give up on him cause of his bat, but if he doesn’t show something this year, he’s toast. His grade is always partially based on his potential. (C-)
Fresno
Nate Schierholtz: I’ve always been a Schierholtz guy and I think he has nothing more to prove in AAA. And he is NOT a AAAA player—that’s a lot of As in one line. Just biding his time to take over an outfield spot in SF. I think he can be a league average player in RF right away and then become above average in a few years. (B)
I didn’t include Burriss and Bowker who are at MLB. But I’d rate both of them B for showing that they’re capable at the major league level.
But we should be excited about the pitching. Bumgardner is pitching really well, and to put things into perspective, he’s only 1 year younger than Villalona. I admit I wanted Jarrod Parker at #10 and was madbummed that he was taken by the Snakes at #9. But Bumgardner has pitched nearly as well so far and he’s a year younger than Parker. Also, Alderson is more than holding his own at High A and while we haven’t seen the impeccable control we thought he had, he’s still doing well for his age at that level. And of course, we have Ben Snyder, Clayton Tanner, Henry Sosa, Kevin Pucetas, and a host of B- level relief pitchers at AA (Matos, Hedrick, Pichardo), Nicky P and Sergio Romo at AAA
Bumgardner (A-), Alderson (A-) , Ben Snyder (B+), Clayton Tanner (B), Nick Pereira©, Sergio Romo (A-)
I’d say in two years, we can have a very good system overall.
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Ben Snyder
Ben Snyder has REALLY come on the past month, while Clayton Tanner has really struggled. I think I might still rank Clayton higher, but it wouldn’t even have been a question until Clayton began to struggle after a hot start in San Jose.
Madison Bumgarner has REALLY come one and is young for his class. I believe he is still only 18 years old. I worry about potential arm injuries with Madison, but man that ball really flies out of his hand when he seems to just fling it. He seems to be able to throw his secondary pitches for strikes, but is weak on their command. Fabulous K/BB ratio. I’m getting more and more intrigued.
I wouldn’t give Sergio Romo an A-, but I would indeed consider him a sleeper. He’s a little on the old side, but he’s definitely getting ‘em out in AA.
I’m worried that Tanner might have some issues with his arm. His stats fell off late last year and after a few good starts he’s really tailed off of late. Makes me wonder if he needs to rest a start or two.
I guess my grades were based on an unscientific combination of prospect potential plus performance so far this year. So yeah, I guess I overrated Romo and Snyder a bit.
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by tellusfrank on May 13, 2008 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Getting Tanner
Your point about Clayton is a very good one. His late-season slump last season and the way he’s tailed off recently after a strong start do look quite suspicious. Has anyone watched him pitch down there to see if his speed is dropping off?
Thomas Neal = 20 years old
If that’s old for a Low-A prospect, then people are taking this age thing far too seriously, to ridiculous levels.
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by BruteSentiment on May 13, 2008 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
To be more specific...
There are 87 players in the 16 team league younger than Neal. That’s less than 20% of the players.
This whole age thing for prospects is ridiculous, and it’s getting worse with more scrutiny on the minors. Seriously. It’s bordering on Pedo Bear Approval.
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by BruteSentiment on May 13, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Boy..
Congratulations on copywrighting Pereira!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Pereira @
D’Alessio %, Romo !, Alderson >, Bumgarner <, Snyder^, Tanner #. But that’s just my opinion.
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
Alderson is greater than Bumgarner who is in turn less than Snyder but Snyder is raised to some unknown power there and Romo is a factorial…damn it. I thought I was done with this math garbage this semester!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions
^^^^^
Meant as a reply to Lyle up there.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 14, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Romo is also...
Romo times the pitcher that Romo is.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Will this be on the test?
That’s why I got a C in math this semester.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on May 15, 2008 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
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