Open Gameday Thread, 4/6
by Grant on Apr 6, 2008 10:00 AM PDT
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San Francisco Giants at Milwaukee Brewers, Apr 6, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
Barry Zito against...Ben Sheets? Pfft. What does that guy make? Only $11M? He can't possibly be good. Yeah, call us when you get an ACE making $18M, Brewers. Then we can have an evenly matched ace-off.
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Isn't Zito only making like $14 million this year?
Thanks to the wonderful world of backloading.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew some dink would come in here to make that point...
...I just didn't think it would be you. You broke my heart, Howie. You broke my heart.
by Grant on Apr 6, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I always bring up the backloaded contracts
How could you not think it would be me?
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant -- with Vito here, it's not personal.
It's strictly contractual in nature.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roberts LF
Velez RF
Lewis CF
Durham 2B
Castillo 3B
Aurilia 1B
Holm C
Bocock SS
I think I threw up in my mouth a little.
BTW, why does Bocock, who leads the team in OBP and OPS (yes, small sample size i know) batting 8th?
by Viliphied on Apr 6, 2008 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And why is He of the Terrible Defense in CF?
by Viliphied on Apr 6, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you have to expect Bocock to eventually remember that he's Brian Bocock. I haven't seen all his base hits, but the strikeouts I've seen have been all Bococked up.
Can't answer the CF question.
Go Steve Holm! First MLB start, right? I just hope he doesn't embarrass himself.
by wedge on Apr 6, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FREE VELEZ LEWIS HOLM BOCOCK
Oh... wait... let me try again...
free ortmeier davis?
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side
1) Bengie Molina isn't batting cleanup
2) Aaron Rowand isn't batting behind Bengie Molina
That's two things I wanted to happen, happening!
I'm actually pretty happy to see the young lineup again. I just wish Aurilia wasn't a part of it.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some habits die hard with Bochy
Giving a veteran plenty of time to hit.
Like all of 2007 and part of 2008.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OF alignment is interesting. Big "D" in the 4-hole. When does Sabean make that trade for the LHH 1b he keeps talking about? Best of luck to the rookie Holm in his start. Have Zito keep the ball down. Hope Zito gets some movement on his pitches today. Maybe today is the day the bullpen gets some rest. No, seriously.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barry Zito
is gonna give you up, he's gonna let you down, he's gonna run around and desert you. He's gonna make you cry, he's gonna tell a lie and hurt you. He *is* however never gonna say goodbye.
by SnowLeopard on Apr 6, 2008 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Giants have
a higher team OBP than the Yankees, Rox, and two other teams. We're dead last in SLG though ....
(although I'm *sure* it's only a matter of time until the post-Bonds team spirit kicks in, and a few of the boys start slugging .863 and .812 ...)
by SnowLeopard on Apr 6, 2008 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A lopsided race to the deadly end
Between post-Bonds and post-Mortem for this team
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SLUGGING??
Hell, I'd be happy if they OPS'ed those #s....
by Viliphied on Apr 6, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the G-men OPS ,800 this year
I'm buying everyone in the McCoven a new car!
by SnowLeopard on Apr 6, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or...
Just Oprah?
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey. Leopard's buying me a car
I want a gas guzzler.
All you guys talk about is a gas emitter.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah also
we lead the majors in CS, sixth in batting strikeouts, and last in XBH. Swagger-y!
by SnowLeopard on Apr 6, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is MLB.tv working for anyone? I keep getting timed out.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it's working fine for me at the moment
Make me proud again Hen
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 6, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
#1 pick debut - Madison Bumgarner
Bumgarner gave up a single, dobule, run in the first inning. Oh yeah, he also struck out the side.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Go GreenJackets
Nooner is batting clean-up today and Big V is hitting 6th and gets the start at 1b.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That game, even if it were Pony League
Is infinitely more interesting that the steaming horseapples in front of us here in Milwaukee today.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bummer for Bumgarner
His pitching line for his debut:
3 innings
5 runs
7 hits
0 walks
6 Ks
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Six strikeouts in three innings is encouraging, though.
by MidKnight on Apr 6, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Jonathan Sanchez...
...stay the hell away from our first-round picks!
For now, at least.
by Grant on Apr 6, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huzzah!
Finally a chance to watch a game... so what if it's on Gameday.
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 11:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As for the actual Giants game...
Well, that's a great start.
by wedge on Apr 6, 2008 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf Sheets
guy is unconscious
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.
by delorean on Apr 6, 2008 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ho boy
He struck out the side in like 4 pitches.
by non sequitur on Apr 6, 2008 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheets is setting the bar high for Zito
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps if he set it neck-high
And Zito, jogging, doesn't see it....
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you remember as a kid tying a line across the street at night and hanging a newspaper from it and watched cars drive into it ?
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was you?
My dad is preparing the lawsuit, Wil
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
got to get in line after that old lady who lives 5 door down. Boy was she upset.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
check swing, check swing, check swing...
by GiantsFanInExile on Apr 6, 2008 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Johan Santana
just doubled for the Mets. That has nothing to do with anything, but somehow it adds to my misery.
by wedge on Apr 6, 2008 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It adds to my stack
of miscellaneous and useless statistics
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
with this lineup.....
sheets may get another no-hitter today.
by vivalancellotti on Apr 6, 2008 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
with 27 strikeouts
Make me proud again Hen
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 6, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True sign of a faux ace: hiding behind the simple trick of not letting the other team hit the ball.
by 2X2L on Apr 6, 2008 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He may not need to use Zito's faux tricks
Such as hiding behind an inpenetrable curtain of line drives
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a veteran move right there, getting the radar gun to register the speed going out instead of the speed going in.
by 2X2L on Apr 6, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been a few years since I read Moneyball, but if I remember right, Michael Lewis went on about how the A's were smarter than other teams because the were the only ones who realized Barry Zito was a better pitcher than Ben Sheets. I think most Giants fans would disagree about that particular assessment after watching the first inning.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GameDay had his FB at 85,-87, is this correct?
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Flem is saying 84 on the radio side.
by non sequitur on Apr 6, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
poor Holm
can't possibly throw out the runner with Zito, even if he pitches out with his 84 mph fastball..
by SFGAmsterdam on Apr 6, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to figure out the effectiveness of a changeup when it's only 6mph slower than his fastball.
by MidKnight on Apr 6, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all about lulling them to sleep... I guess
/endpositivemode
by SFGAmsterdam on Apr 6, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fastball can be knocked into the tenth row
The changeup, with a critical 6 mph missing, 78 is usually only a triple off the wall
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st inning
As thrilling as it was to see Zito navigate a scoreless first inning, this has to be seen as the game that marks the sayonara to any hope of seeing .500 again this year. There is no way this team will ever manage a four-game win streak.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 11:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Norwich
Please keep an eye on our sleeper prospect EME.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
EME
I'll do that the same way you will, reading Steve S. religiously. I'm nearest Norwich in terms of our minor league teams but actually a long way away in New Jersey. I try to see them in Trenton against the Yankees farm team.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My best chance will be to see them later this year
When they're all called up to replace the drek we are currently witnessing
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA
there goes his perfect 27-k game!
by SFGAmsterdam on Apr 6, 2008 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What suckage!
Can't even take a no-hitter past the second inning.
by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 6, 2008 11:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was all set to bitch and moan about Aurilia being in the lineup every day...
...and then he goes and ruins it by getting a base hit.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 11:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bochy's patience with Aurilia
for a year and a half has finally paid this sumptuous dividend
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
first major league hit for holm!
Should have been a double?
by non sequitur on Apr 6, 2008 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
was it an infield hit?
gameday says it was a liner to hall
by vivalancellotti on Apr 6, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He raked it down the third base line. Would've been a double easy, but it hit the umpire.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a down the third baseline, past hall and it hit the umpire
Make me proud again Hen
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 6, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fat ass umpire blocked it just past third.
by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 6, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve-O !!!
You know, technically, we're not losing yet. GO GIANTS!
by wedge on Apr 6, 2008 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But technically,
I think the Giants are playing snookers, not baseball
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holm!
So think about his story:
"Got my first hit off Ben Sheets, oh and I got a piece of that fat ump on 3rd on the way"
by SFGAmsterdam on Apr 6, 2008 11:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Put that hunk a ump on your Giants Mantle
it will harmoniously reek with the rest of the 2008 season
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm intrigued by this concept of reeking in harmonic frequency. Luckily we'll have the opportunity to explore it almost every day until October.
by 2X2L on Apr 6, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hall
Is just OVERPOWERED by Zito's fastballs.
by non sequitur on Apr 6, 2008 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rough error on Bocock
Who looks like he's about 2-3 grades ahead of Lincecum at junior high.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 11:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely should have made the play
...but I'm not thinking he gets the guy at first anyway.
by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 6, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
STEVE HOLM
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hustlin' holm
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Apr 6, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice play by Velez, at least
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And Holm.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Velez.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn't have looked as great if he'd gotten a better jump on it, though.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Velez
Is just trying to make everything a bit harder than it should be.
by SFGAmsterdam on Apr 6, 2008 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing quite so hard, though
as those iron hands of his
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Velez had a nice inning with the glove.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know where my good marketing team is
Is I know where my bad baseball team is.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is I know?
Is don't know where my typing are
But is know where are baseball my.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
zito swings his purse
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Apr 6, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That' my purse! I don't know you!
(five points to anyone who gets that reference)
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta say it in a somewhat high-pitched Texas accent. ::takes five points::
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
At the beginning of the game, Krukow said something about Winn being "on the shelf." They haven't mentioned him since, and I can't find anything online - is he hurt somehow or what?
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He stinks.
So he's on that shelf with the hunk a ump.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when will the Giants break out of their hitting slump?
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
team slugging percentage
just went up 10-fold
"If I can change and you can change, then everybody can change!" Rocky Balboa, Rocky IV
by WithTechron on Apr 6, 2008 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Velez
Now he'll have to steal 3rd
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Velez
Showing the flaws in the ground rule double rule.
If you're on second before the ball goes over the wall, it should be a triple.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you're on second before the ball goes over the wall
You should be on the Olympic 400M relay team
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
velez is kinda fast, yeah?
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Apr 6, 2008 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i can't figure out how Velez generates all that power
by sweetjuxtapose on Apr 6, 2008 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is double-plus grit the next step up?
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Similar Mystery with Zito
How does he generate all those opposing shots in all directions?
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen his batting stance?
He uses his body like a spring to get as much forward bat speed as possible.
I'm only kind of joking. His batting stance is FunKy.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say all you want
but Velez does excite the game
by SFGAmsterdam on Apr 6, 2008 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what's more depressing today...
our lineup or the warriors from 3-point land?
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Apr 6, 2008 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really depressing
Once you accept the team for what it is, it's not really depressing. It's kind of interesting to watch the young guys getting their stab at the Majors. You'll see less and less of the old-timers as the year progresses.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i get depressed that once the other team scores 4 runs i know it's a loss...
but watching the youngins is fun... do you hear that bochy?
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Apr 6, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We expect better from the warriors, we dont expect anything from Bochy and the Giants.
by Tchli on Apr 6, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how bizarre is it that the Warriors are the best Bay Area pro sports team?
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
our lineup doesn't depress me when Velez, Lewis, et al. are in it. When it's filled with geriatrics that have no hope of improving - yeah, that depresses me.
so, yay= Velez, Lewis, Castilla, Holm, Bocock
boo = Roberts, Durham, Aurilia
by sweetjuxtapose on Apr 6, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's depressing is having to watch zito pitch
by i wish we were good on Apr 6, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep.
i wish the Knicks were a baseball team. We could trade Zito for Zach Randolph and a bag of chips.
by sweetjuxtapose on Apr 6, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More fun
Which Major League pitcher would you NOT trade Zito for?
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hanley Ramirez because we already have a SS
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Which Major League pitchers are not as valuable as Zito?
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would trade Zito for anything including low A players
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz... He'd cost you guys more at the buffet than Zitos contract
All the best Brits support the Diamondbacks!
by AZDarkKnight on Apr 7, 2008 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knicks
Sabean would probably turn down Randolph and demand Marbury
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eating Aurilia's and Roberts' contracts will be an appetizer for Sabean
Wait until he has to devour the Zito leviathan.
The day is coming sooner, rather than later, to use our GM's terminology.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The news from Augusta(game 1 of doubleheader)
Bumgarner's line: 3 IP, 7H, 5ER, 0BB/6K's
Villalona: 1 for 3, RBI single, strikeout and popout
by i wish we were good on Apr 6, 2008 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am still so confused
when I hear Kendall batting in the ninth slot...
by SFGAmsterdam on Apr 6, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Weeks' hit
Flem says fastball was below the zone. Former pitchers out there: is that the real problem with Zito's speed? Batters miss 94 mph mistakes but the free swingers can tattoo slower ones.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Conversation
Zito: "My pitches are sucking, aren't they?"
Holm: "Yup."
Zito: "Alright then."
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holm can't start out this relationship by obviously lying to his pitcher. Zito was just testing what kind of character he was.
by non sequitur on Apr 6, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holm should be supplied with Avon products
So when he goes out to the mound, he can put lipstick on that pig
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Alderson
starts for San Jose today, yes? game time 1:15...
by wedge on Apr 6, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is San Jose playing?
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. Would have been interesting if they were playing Modesto.
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
these commentators have to sense that they're lying through their teeth
"got a real pitcher's duel, eh?"
"yeah, it's fun to watch"
by sweetjuxtapose on Apr 6, 2008 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget the salary
This game, so far, shows Zito needs crisp fielding and a modicum of luck (the occasional line drive at some one instead of in the gap) to get off a "quality" start. Does that make him a legitimate No. 4 pitcher or is he not even that good.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he's a four on an average staff
but he's a four or five on ours
by sweetjuxtapose on Apr 6, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luck is the shameful watchword with Zito
Cain had none last year, and we could still see his greatness
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Decline
It will be interesting to see how he handles his continuing decline. My sense is that he's basically a good guy and reasonably smart. The question is whether he can transform himself into Jamey Moyer and, if so, will it happen in time for us to get some of the benefit.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
with better "D" Zito would be doing much better.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and run support
"If I can change and you can change, then everybody can change!" Rocky Balboa, Rocky IV
by WithTechron on Apr 6, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably. I'd agree he's a 4th starter on a normal team...
And to answer the earlier question, there are some pitchers I wouldn't take over Zito. Josh Fogg. Florida's #4 and 5, whoever they are. The ghost of Odalis Perez.
I like NN's point, above ... it'll be interesting to see of Zito and adjust into a Jamey Moyer model.
by wedge on Apr 6, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Extra base hits
a dime a dozen
"If I can change and you can change, then everybody can change!" Rocky Balboa, Rocky IV
by WithTechron on Apr 6, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Gamers don't need extra base hits. They get by on speed and defense along.
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean alone.
Don't mind me, I need a nap.
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heck no
And yet, I wish, because then I could have occasion to talk to him about his managing techniques.
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't it be great to have Schierholz in this lineup instead of Ray?
by sweetjuxtapose on Apr 6, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray has fully half of the team home runs
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
please scream it from the mountain tops so other GMs can hear
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he also has half of the team's diving on top of balls plays
by sweetjuxtapose on Apr 6, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And 100% of diving on top of nothing but dirt plays
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some say it's swagger
But when Durham hits the ground, I call it jiggle
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Holm
Kinda looks like a mini-Tyler Walker.
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean he looks like he's sweating out a 4 day bender?
by Giants_Longhorns_Fan on Apr 6, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG, deal deal deal deal deal.
Maybe I'm just charmed by Fukudome's hot start... or his non-"gamer" ability to play outfield without hurting himself at every opportunity.
by wedge on Apr 6, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too early
Probably a deal but remember Fukudome hasn't been around long enough for pitchers to have a book on him. It will be interesting to see what happens his second time around the league.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
FukU looks good: very good plate approach, ie fouls of good pitches that he cannot hit, ignores pitches that he doesn't like, then hits the pitches he wants. Combined with good D, and the ability to run.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on Apr 6, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rally
It's best that we not rile up the Brewers too much by scoring while Zito is still pitching. If we can stay close enough to catch up in the inning when we pinch hit for Zito, things might work out.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We've tried this complex strategy in every game this year
we're about to go 1-5 with it
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This 1-5 of which you speak intrigues me...
When exactly have we won? I must have missed something.
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could have been earlier this very season
which, as we all know, began in 2005
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strategy
I didn't say it was good. I said it was the best available. If you were thrown out of a plane without a parachute, wouldn't you still spread your arms and legs out and maybe even flap a bit for the hell of it?
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh, give us a Sabean-without-a-chute graphic
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love these
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His Evil Twin will soon arrive
throwing 82
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Followed by his pesky sister
and her 45 collection
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think he ever left
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd like to see Sheets hit a grand slam. That'd be kinda cool.
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
War Stories
When I was a kid a pitcher (Tony Cloniger) hit two grand slams in a game. It was against the Giants.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aweosme.
Can he play 1st?
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a single, for nine RBI's
Match that, 2008 Giant midgets of a lesser god
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
About ten years ago, Shawn Estes hit a grand slam for the Giants. It as during the inning where they give away $10,000 for a grand slam, too. That was pretty awesome.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I jinxed Bocock
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on Apr 6, 2008 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Facing a tough pitcher with good control, backed by one of the most potent ofeenses in MLB. Is there a game this season where the odds of a Giants win are longer?
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on Apr 6, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ofeenses?
you can't block the Bocock
by oldjacket on Apr 6, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had one of those in the earlier part of the decade
It faded, along with our ability to spell it
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why doesn't this guy quit playing solitaire and trade for a 1b?
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Show some respect!
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that's where he got the idea...
I can't wait for May to come around - then I won't be teased for being a Giants fan anymore. I swear these Virginians don't know what they're talking about.
by KyrieEleison on Apr 6, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is he doing here in Milwaukee. I thought he was the Boston Red Sox's mascot.
by non sequitur on Apr 6, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee's Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Four runs
Which Zito do we prefer, the 4 in the first followed by three shutout innings or today's version?
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Braun just hit the crap out of that one.
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 6, 2008 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm just reading this now at work and I am laughing hysterically. These Sabean cartoons are awesome!!111!
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Apr 6, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad. Until then Zito was doing an admirable job not giving up more than one run an inning.
by non sequitur on Apr 6, 2008 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's the spirit, quitur
It ain't really Zito's fault.
If it were fully Sabean's fault, he would fired by now.
Magowan must have been behind that hideous signing.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do remember reading that Giants scouts approving this and saying Zito would do very well in the NL
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean those scouts that recommended
signing alfonzo, finley, roberts, aurilia, pryrshinski, matheny, durham, benitez, kline, messenger, hindenburg, chulk. vizcaino, greene, sweeney, and other boatloads of flotsam that are out baseball 5 minutes after leaving the Giants?
Yes. I believe you are correct.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
Maybe this eliminates the myth that Barry Zito can be any good before June.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh he's good
just not good at pitching. But he can shred on the gittar !!1!!!!!
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
During June, his best month,
he has a week when he is merely odious and odiferous
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's awesome that we're paying $14M a year to the left handed version of Kyle Lohse.
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
More than that on average!
See Grant, equal opportunity.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you leave Zito in to take the beating?
by verno329 on Apr 6, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
yes
yes
yes
yesyesyesyesyesyesyes
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least until they score 48 runs
then dfa him
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
for everyone on this staff not named Lincecum or Cain
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew this weekend was going to be bad
Since they killed the Giants last year. But I did not expect to have Gabe Kapler showing up our pitchers.
by out machine on Apr 6, 2008 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bob Uecker is coming out of retirement
to hit against Zito
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holm's is thinking
Was there anyone this bad on the Norwich staff last year?
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holm is thinking
I've caught fewer pitches than those fans in left field...
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Holm's thinking
Let 'em have a couple more. Then the Brewer pitchers will groove their pitches to get this sucker over with as fast as possible and maybe I'll get another hit.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be kind Dusty
The Reds have a couple of young fine arms in Cueto and Volquezx. They could surprise this year if the kids continue to develop.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 12:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Zito Throwing changeups
to Ben Sheets.
-_-
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So does the Brewer's mascot just stand around the top of that big slide the entire game waiting for Brewers to hit home runs so he can go down? Sounds like a slightly tedious job.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
my own grammar police
Brewers' mascot, I should've said.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other jobs in Wisconsin
include cowtipping, pumping gas, and measuring wheat stalks
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a wheat state
Try soybeans
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont forget the club scene
where the bouncers dress up in pirates costumes and serenade you with "free credit report dot com"
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tedious job
3rd base coach for the Giants
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Formerly known
as Maytag Repairman and tolltaker on the northbound lanes of the GG bridge
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flem: "We may have seen the last of Zito"
If only it were so...
by BaysideBaller on Apr 6, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In relative terms
We have only begun to taste the delights of Zito outings.
Six more years, laddies, plus an option.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like eating poop
taste the delights of Zito outings.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Durahm veteran savvy GIDP
He has Aurilia looking over his shoulder now
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Veteran Savvy huzzah
Dave Roberts: .154 BA, no walks
Ray Durham: .200 BA
Rich Aurilia: .222 BA, .222 SLG
Randy Winn: .263 BA, .316 SLG
How to put us over the top into a playoff contender: bring Steve Scarsone out of retirement.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Steve Sax
as a late inning defensive replacement
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Steve Stone
To protect our...our...our leads!
(Explodes into raucous laughter)
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Apr 7, 2008 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know the record for most GiDP's in a season for a team? Think we can take that?
by Azmanz on Apr 6, 2008 12:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
probably not
because we won't be on base enough, or we'll get picked off to often
by SFGAmsterdam on Apr 6, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It means have to get on base AND make contact
Too many ifs
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great highlight!
Yaz hitting a homerun in the 75 All Star Game.
Fucking insult to injury
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Home runs used to be the SF franchise lifeblood
Now we're thinking of moving the fences in.
With luck, global warming will push McCovey Cove up near the infield dirt.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Crystal Meth
out of the back of a station wagon
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mop Up
Sad to say but if you're goal is to get into a lot of games and you're a Giants reliever, the primo job might be mop up man.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bo knows defense
"If I can change and you can change, then everybody can change!" Rocky Balboa, Rocky IV
by WithTechron on Apr 6, 2008 12:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blasphemy?
Is Bocock better defensively than Omar is at this stage? The arm he has is really a big plus
Go Durham, Roberts, Aurilia, Vizquel, Winn, Lowry! The better you do, the quicker we can trade you!
by NeifiChicken on Apr 6, 2008 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes and range
Omar has advantage with positioning and though. Bocock has more range, stronger arm. Omar also gets paid more so Omar will play. Thats how we plan to lock up the basement as well as ensure we make as little progress for the future as well.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not yet
Bocock may have surpassed him on the basics -- range, arm strength, speed, etc. -- but Omar still knows a huge amount Bocock needs to learn about positioning on particular hitters and the tricks of the trade, like when to throw behind a runner rounding third, how to take the feed from the second baseman on the outside of the glove on a dp and so forth.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the best time to learn let him learn is when the team sucks.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on Apr 6, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt get to see the start of the game
what was the average velocity of Zito's fastballs
by Athletic on Apr 6, 2008 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Was that his high or was he still pumping in 83 and 84mph garbage
by Athletic on Apr 6, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was back down to the 83-84 range after a few innings.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His high was induced
by some Mendo Trainwreck smoked before gametime
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recall it was around the speed
of a pumpkin lobbed at Icahabod Crane
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
much better than the 82 he was getting last start
My pictures never show up here, so this is my new Signature
by sloth11 on Apr 6, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true sir true I just heard that there is some interest from my slow pitch softball team
In the Services of Zito although he will have to get his velocity up a little
by Athletic on Apr 6, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday had a lot of his pitches sitting around 84-85, though.
by MidKnight on Apr 6, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Average?
I think the average was lower. 86 might have been when he was overthrowing off the plate. At Barry's speed, it's not pace but movement and location that is the key. Cf. Greg Maddux
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The average velocity was Suck.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
plate discipline, huh?
90 pitches through 7 innings for Ben Sheets. 106 through 5 for Zito.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't we get doughnutted 5-0 in Zito's last start?
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 1:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
To be honest with you guys as an A's fan I am glad Zito is not an A
by Athletic on Apr 6, 2008 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I always liked him though and still would like to see him do well
But man if he were a free agent right now I am not sure if he could get 1 mill a year
by Athletic on Apr 6, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even minimum... he's done.
He's been on a downward slide for years, and unless he gets on peds (which I highly recommend btw) he is through.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You may express your joy
However, please sip the bile when it's passed to you
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I think the bile was passed to you and the Giants paid 17 mil a year for it
by Athletic on Apr 6, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abudantly true, A's fan
What I mean is try not to gloat, and even, occasionally, commiserate with us.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me I would love to see Zito do well for you guys
So we could get Oakland vs SF in the world series too bad both teams are not very good. I really do not know what is wrong with Zito I think it could be 2 thing either he is injured or he is not taking HGH or Steroids anymore.
by Athletic on Apr 6, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or he flat out sucks?
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Apr 7, 2008 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zito = Posterboy
for everything that is wrong with this team.
Bad scouting
Overpaid
Slacker
Long term commitment
Horseshit player
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hennerssay right handed version of zito
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there apparently is only room enough for one Henny on this team and it must be Eugenio
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that his contract isn't a huge waste, but the main problem with the Giants isn't massively overpaid big-name pitchers, it's moderately overpaid no-name position players. So the real poster boy would probably be someone more like Dave Roberts.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its both. the zito signing is worse from a PR standpoint
it is the lighting rod for all the ire.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no. How will we ever come back from this deficit.
by non sequitur on Apr 6, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We can't come back to win
But watch. We'll come back for more, starting tomorrow.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first Opening day where you will hear boos
when introductions are made. I would suggest bochy not start roberts or aurilia.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully to include some JU 88s, me-110s, fw 190s, bf-109s
and a v-2 or two just for good measure.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, if a V-8 will keep Bochy awake
I'm for dropping one on him
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wish we could hit the ball to the wall..
by Azmanz on Apr 6, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't taking an April Fools joke to Day 6 a bit much?
Let's break out the real lineup, guys. Okay?
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by groug on Apr 6, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It says something about our lineup
that, technically, our Drive of the Game didn't leave the infield.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Technically
our roster didn't leave Fresno
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for Bocock and Holm, who never made it that far.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Drive Of The Game
is seeing AT & T in your rear view
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Apr 7, 2008 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cory Hart
Looks likes a Dukes of Hazard extra
http://www.baycityball.com
by xanthan on Apr 6, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, the Giants roster is composed of Boss Hawgs
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wears his sunglasses at night.
I made this joke with WAY better context and timing in front of some of my friends and they didn't get it.
But how can you watch Cory Hart and NOT think of that song?
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the AAA All Star Game in Sacramento 2005, they played that song over the PA system when he came to bat. I LOL'd.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 6, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pt for youngsters
Ive been lurking for a long time. Lived in sf for 5 years but Im a brewer fan to the core. I feel real bad for you guys. I just dont get why ortmeier doesnt start over richie
by wisco kid on Apr 6, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The sad truth is that there's absolutely no reason to believe Ortmeier would be any better than Aurilia.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sabean apparently views Ortmeier
As a Wisconsin Bratwurst salesman
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fielding
Richie is still a better fielder at 1B than Ort. They have to be concerned about having the pitchers routinely be forced to get 4 or 5 outs an inning. We are already compromising on fielding by playing Fred Lewis and Velez.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are already compromising on fielding by playing Fred Lewis and Velez.
you are just comprimised by taking the field
by wisco kid on Apr 6, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're concerned about D,
Ray Durham has no business starting.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on Apr 6, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
Velez has looked really solid in right today.
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.
by delorean on Apr 6, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he has. Both he and Fred played great D today.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 6, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so
it's hard to tell from the radio broadcast what kind of jumps they are getting and the routes they are running. One call described Lewis "running out of room" and the ball bouncing off the base of the wall. They can't both be true.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that one wasn't on Freddie
it was hit to the base of the wall, he just couldn't get to it in time
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.
by delorean on Apr 6, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both Fred and Eugenio made good plays off the carom. I'm used to watching our fielders flail at a ball hit off the wall, but both those guys made clean pickups on the balls off the wall.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 6, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Threets vs. Sheets
The matchup. OF THE CENTURY.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 6, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Threets Meets Sheets
Thousands of Empty Seats
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Giants fans are Threets Sheets to the wind by now.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 6, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stalked up the liquor cabinet
when Sabean mumbled something about speed and defense last October
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been sober since 2002.
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by groug on Apr 6, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My kingdom for a bottle
I meant to stock up, not stalk up.
But when it gets desperate, I'd stalk my neighbor and her cabinet for liquor.
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
threets makes Prince wince
with a breaking ball up and ince.
(sorry)
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.
by delorean on Apr 6, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The matchup of last century was when William VanLandingham started for the Giants against Jason Isringhausen, starting for the Mets. Never before in baseball history had two started pitchers combined for so much name length.
by jcb9 on Apr 6, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not impressed at all
by Sheets' performance.
by John Paulies on Apr 6, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well, he is pitching against the most anemic lineup in MLB
but he's had great stuff all day. his breaking ball has been absurd all day.
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.
by delorean on Apr 6, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dollar for dollar
the worst lineup in MLB history...mover over cleveland spiders.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants should be getting Dan Johnson from the A's
Soon and he does have some pop from the left side of the plate you wont be hearing much grab some pine meat
by Athletic on Apr 6, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
can we get Don Johnson instead?
Looks better in orange.
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we have to take Tubbs too?
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 6, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's where it is!
Tell him to give it back to Zito
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if he's ever thrown off a mound...the kid has a gun.
by MidKnight on Apr 6, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one more run ought to about do it for
a zito started game...run an inning is all we ask
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome
2nd shutout in a week.
Giants are the lighted bag of shit left on the doorstep in the middle of the night.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
for how bad our offense has been, colorados has been worse..
by Azmanz on Apr 6, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
at about 1/3 of the cost
and only temporary.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah for sure would rather have their offense than ours
by Azmanz on Apr 6, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One's asleep
The other's in a Sabean-induced Coma
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis
Lining out softly to Ryan Braun
Lining out softly
to Ryan Braun
Taking his seat
in the dugout
Lining out softly
to Ryan Braun.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
by tobias on Apr 6, 2008 1:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice, but there's quite a bit more to say about how Braun played it. He seemed relieved to have caught it.
by 2X2L on Apr 6, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to leave that sort of thing to the audience's imagination.
However...
Fred did feel all flushed with fever
embarassed by his out
He watched Braun catch his line drive
then throw it to the crowd.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
by tobias on Apr 6, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prayed the game would finish
But they just kept on playing...
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LAME
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 1:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm late with this, but with the Giants this year there doesn't seem to be any need to hurry --
by 2X2L on Apr 6, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. well you just wait til barry starts pitching right handed
mr. smarty pants neeener neeener neeener.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to conduct the postgame interview
I'd ask Sheets if he's good to pitch tomorrow's game.
That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!
by tobias on Apr 6, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
109 total pitches
i think Timmy threw that many during the rain delay earlier in the week
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.
by delorean on Apr 6, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
12 runs in 6 games, on pace for 324 runs scored.. a new record
by Azmanz on Apr 6, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't kidding when I put the overunder on 400 runs this year.
I figured them to average about 2.5 runs per game. Or about 405 runs if they play all 162. I figure they will probably lose 1 game to a rainout that wont' be replayed so figure 402 runs. Run off. and voila. Last year they averaged 4.2 runs per game with Barry. I figure Barry was good for a run and a half per game in which he played or about 150 runs. That takes you from 683 to about 533. Everybody else is about 15% less due to age so that accounts for 15% of 533 or approximately 80 runs. To that puts us at 453 projected in a vacum. The rest of the West pitching got stronger though, so throw out another 50 or so runs and we end up at 400 runs.
It could happen.
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SPEED AND DEFENSE
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by groug on Apr 6, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so to extrapolate from the first two series:
50% of games to be blowout losses
33.3% to be close losses
16.6% to be close wins
Final tally: 27-135
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds a little optimistic
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.
by delorean on Apr 6, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a little lightheaded
from the fumes. Had a sack of poop burning on his porch
by Moggeee on Apr 6, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is a gamer
.167 winning percentage
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Below the Mendoza line to the Interstate
Soon to be a bingo card
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need some randomization on the close losses
I mean over the course of the year a few of those are going to turn into blowouts.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and now they come home where they can sleep in their own beds and hit in their own park.
by wilriv21 on Apr 6, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean
Crap in their own nest?
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
shit in their own beds
and sleep in the dugout
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peering ahead to Steve S.
Connecticut wins again with more strong pitching. If Rosario keeps this up, Bocock may have another challenger as Vizquel's successor.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rosario
They signed him out of independent ball -- a former Rays minor leaguer who led the Can-Am league in a bunch of categories last year.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PS
Credit where due -- this info from Greg's Connecticut Defenders blog. Rosario led the league in hits and was close to the top in the other categories, to be more specific.
by NearestNorwich on Apr 6, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nearest you beat me to it. I like Rosario. I'm watching him and Palazzolo closely.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rosario, Palazzolo, Gambino, Bonnano, Delacroce.
We are Family....
by E Ticket on Apr 6, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
enrico palazzolo?
The opera singer?
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad I missed this pile of crap.
We made Sheets look like the next coming of Cy Young. Zito looked like a AAA starter with arm problems. If you are play Ortmeir than play him. Give Auriella the rest of his life off. Why is Henny still any where near the team? Could he be any worse?
Just bring the kids up at least then we would have an excuse for looking this bad. ARGH!!!!!
Sometimes you just have to take a dump.
by Ortman on Apr 6, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No difference between 3-0 and 7-0
This was a perfect game for Henny Penny. In fact, he should be saved up for the games Zito starts- 5 innings for Zueter and 4 for Henny. If they're going to have any chance in the close games they need a mop up guy. Maybe two for this team (if only Yabu hadn't blinded himself with a rubber band).
by natteringnabob on Apr 6, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but who hasn't done that before?
Oh wait... were you talking about a real rubber band? I thought we were talking about... well, nevermind....
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read that as
"Yeah, bu who hasn't done that before?
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
by nvsfg on Apr 7, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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