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Barry Zito Is Playing Into A Difficult Environment

Barry Zito fans need only read what gets a player out of a place no fan understands why you are in.  Here is the secret.  Every Zito fan, everyone in the media, everyone in the organization plays a role in the difficulties Barry faces.

Barry could still win 15 even playing for the Giants.  And it is very very simple.  Unfortunately the Giants players are playing for an organization who has put in place a  "karmic" dynamic which may result in the worst decade this organization has ever known.  And they haven't a clue as to what they are doing to power it.

Barry - read What You Focus On Matters

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Difficult environment

I thought you were going to tell me it had something to do with a mix of roughly 80% nitrogen and 20% oxygen, and I was morbidly curious about Zito’s newly evolved gills.

Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)

by antinous on Apr 28, 2008 9:22 PM PDT reply actions  

he does appear to be throwing underwater.

by tyrannoman on Apr 29, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think it affects your play for booing home crowd?

A proud member of a Giant program would have been quite upset I imagine to have watched what the organization did the greatest player in the game. (well one of them) But then maybe they just didn’t have courage to stand up to mlb.

by What's A Fan To Do on Apr 29, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

bzuh?

A karmic dynamic?

Is this going to end up being the fault of BLB somehow?

Still watching out for Notgardo in Fresno. Hope you make it back up soon. We miss you 'round The City way. How come you never call?

by tk on Apr 28, 2008 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

no, I’m pretty sure that was directed to our beloved ex left fielder.

by tyrannoman on Apr 30, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Que?

Armando B.: "It's not my fault"

by M. IVIE on Apr 28, 2008 9:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I think...

I just strained my chi.

Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com

by leftymalo on Apr 28, 2008 9:42 PM PDT reply actions  

time for you to hit the DL. A note from your doctor should excuse you from the annointed 2 weeks of work.

by tyrannoman on Apr 29, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh oh...

...who are we gonna call up to fill Lefty’s spot in the blog rotation? Can Scott McClain type?

2008: My previous assessment may have been overly optimistic.

by EliminateMe on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing to see here

This guy’s spammed us before. Somebody just Hijack this junk, quick.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 28, 2008 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

HIJACK

Chunky or creamy peanut butter?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Apr 28, 2008 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

CHUNKY DAMMIT!

Smooth bears no resemblance to either peanuts or butter. And it tastes less peanutty.

Super Chunky is even WAY better.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 28, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, chunky is definitely the way to go.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Apr 28, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Creamy Jif Peanut Butter FTW !

My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .

by nvsfg on Apr 29, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You sir

are a genius.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Apr 29, 2008 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

He is Sir Genius.

Ryan Paul: Two four-letter words are better than one.

by The Enchanter on Apr 29, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chunky

I like a little crunch in my butter.

SAVE_US.RAY
Get yer Nattowear

by Natto on Apr 28, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

And now I have to eat a peanut butter sandwich. Thanks a lot.

SAVE_US.RAY
Get yer Nattowear

by Natto on Apr 28, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chunky

definitely chunky… but only Jiff. i have no idea why i dont seem to like any other brands. maybe it is b/c i grew up eating only jiff?

by esqdg on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

you must have a choosy mother.

Ryan Paul: Two four-letter words are better than one.

by The Enchanter on Apr 29, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

And for added entertainment

chasing those pesky peanut bits out of your dental work.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Apr 29, 2008 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chunky is the winner

If you like things that are funny, perhaps you will enjoy ChatterBalks Dot Com?

by groug on Apr 28, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chunky on 12 grain bread. Tis the best after school/work snack I can think of.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

i don’t understand why it’s 12 grain. why not 13? if 12 is good, wouldn’t 13 be better?

Why this one goes to 13!!!!

Ryan Paul: Two four-letter words are better than one.

by The Enchanter on Apr 29, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think 13 grain bread has yet to evolve into grocery store loaf. Might need to trade it while it is holding an item.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because 12 grain is nice lovely even number. And 13 is a disgusting odd number.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 29, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

if that 13th grain is hemp, then it will work.
I mean, we don’t even know what those other 12 grains are, anyways.

Omar likes 13. I think you’ve been in Catholic schools too long.

Ryan Paul: Two four-letter words are better than one.

by The Enchanter on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, I’m just a bit OCD

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 29, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

4 is a scarier taboo number to me. In Japanese, shi means death. Shi also means 4. 13 may be unlucky, but 4 means y’all dead.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

you’re right. i’m japanese.
if someone ever gives me 4 of anything, i put a hex on them and their family and then huddle in a corner.

Ryan Paul: Two four-letter words are better than one.

by The Enchanter on Apr 29, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

My Japanese prof told us a story about going on a bus tour near Mt. Fuji during one of his visits. The traveling party took a caravan of busses to get around. During a bathroom break they found Bus #4 missing. Naturally they freaked out. The bus was just lagging behind, but yeah. Death bus!

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

4 also mean dead in Chinese. So, not good..

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Chinese have this

superstition too; in Cantonese the pronunciation of 4, sei, and die, sei, is similar; it is not as similar in Mandarin, 4 is shi, die is si.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Apr 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thirteen Unlucky ?

Is the number thirteen really unlucky ? Perhaps not.

My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .

by nvsfg on Apr 29, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure as hell was for Edgardo Alfonzo while he was a Giant. Of couse, he sucked when he wore 12 as well.

by tyrannoman on Apr 29, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

that luck had nothing to do with Edgardo Alfonzo’s performance. It seemed to have more to do with his weight . Maybe he ate to many Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwiches.

And now we have gone full circle :-)

My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .

by nvsfg on Apr 29, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

13 a disgusting odd Number?

Don’t you remember Baker’s Dozen’s from when most Bakeries were not part of a grocery store?
13 doughnuts. 13 Bear claws. 13 rules!!!

Did I just date myself again? Damn it.

" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.

by daveinexile on Apr 30, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take a piece of plain white bread, thank you, maybe with a glass of water on the side for dipping.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Apr 29, 2008 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would you also like a bowl of unflavored ice milk?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as it’s nonfat.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Apr 29, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

SMOOTH

if it ain’t smooth it ain’t butter

Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Apr 29, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU!

Exactly which part of “peanut BUTTER” do they not understand???

Do they buy chunky margarine? “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Broken Glass?”

It’s like rap. It isn’t music – it’s poetry with some musical elements behind it. It has no place at the Grammys. If radio stations want to play it, that’s their call. Whatever gets listeners. But it isn’t music.

Okay, I think I’ve successfully hijacked this thread. Commence the flame war.

Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!

by Lyle on Apr 29, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a creamy fan

but every now and then I like a little chunky.

actually, this is funny – I was in the grocery store yesterday having a dilemma. see I love peanut butter and I want to eat it a lot but the problem is that it’s so damn fattening. So I usually buy the reduced fat kind. but the reduced fat kind has like, a lot more carbs and sugar than the regular fat kind. And this goes for all natural, organic, and the regular stuff. What’s a guy to do???

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners classic Unis

by wjackalope on Apr 29, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ketchup? Catsup?

I consider the kind of fats in these foods when buying. Nuts are high in fat, but they contain a lot of good fats, monounsaturated and that. Jif however packs in the sugar and stuff. If the bad fat content is close to or higher than the good fat content, tis not worth it to me.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buy the natural / organic

ones, with no sugar added, the ones that have the layer of oil at the top; those are the best if you’re concerned about fattening.

If you must have sugar in your PB, buy a natural organic version, then, mix it with some non calorie sweeteners, like sucralose(splenda), or if you want a natural non calorie sweetener, stevia.

The reduced fat versions actually tend to be the most fattening.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Apr 29, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reduced Fat Peanut Butter....

is an abomination. It should be outlawed. As Baron previously stated, nuts generally contain primarily “good” fats. Reduced Fat Peanut Butter always tastes like paste to me :-(

If you are going to eat peanut butter, just have the real kind and do a little more exercise.

My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .

by nvsfg on Apr 29, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing is fattening

Unless you sit around and let it become so.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Apr 29, 2008 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This peanut butter debate is harkening back to the recipe my friend and I made up for peanut butter and onion sandwiches. It’s still only in theory because neither of us has the time to test it. It involves hand made peanut butter (chunky of course), carmelized sweet onions, a baguette, and from there we can’t decide what else to do with it. Green onions? Scallions? Sweet garlic spread?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

mmm, that sounds pretty good. I wonder what peanut butter and garlic would taste like together…

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Apr 29, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

We picked hand made PB over the storebought stuff because we want to go for a more savory flavor overall. It’s pretty easy to make too except you gotta watch it to keep the oil from rising to the top.

I imagine that peanut butter and garlic together would taste sort of like pad thai or something. One of these days we’ll test this recipe out.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's a kid that goes to the same park as my kids...

He puts a little steamed spinach on his pb sandwiches. I have never seen anyone do that. He is only six, but he eats it, so I have to give him credit for being adventurous. But, I think if you go with an Thai concept it kind of makes sense. Maybe throw some chili oil and just a dash of sesame oil?

by out machine on Apr 29, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is GD brilliant. I suggested a soft cheese like Havarti but we were both kinda eh at the idea. But a Thai spin on it would totally work.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 29, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

mmmmmm pad thai sandwich

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Apr 29, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

SACRILEGE !!11!!!11

You infidel, how dare you corrupt the sanctity, of peanut butter with foreign impure substances.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Apr 29, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Natural organic chunky

no sugar added, eaten straight out of the jar with a spoon

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like my peanut butter smooth

just like my bocock….

waiting for 2011....

by Osama91w9 on Apr 28, 2008 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Based on that criteria

You’re probably a fat free kind of guy, too.

Another point on which we would differ.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 28, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope this doesn’t lead to a completely different sort of hijack…

SAVE_US.RAY
Get yer Nattowear

by Natto on Apr 28, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, you're right!

I don’t have a clue what the Hell you’re talking about. Have you been hanging-out at the Acme Chop House with
Amy tonight?

by lettinitfly on Apr 28, 2008 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

or Papa.
Big Papa.

Ryan Paul: Two four-letter words are better than one.

by The Enchanter on Apr 29, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zito fans? What? Are you in the right place sir?

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 28, 2008 11:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Are you stalking me? How did you that?!!

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 29, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

15 wins?

Throughout the whole contract, right?

by enut21 on Apr 28, 2008 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

No, man.

15 wins by September after Billy Beane picks him off the waiver wire.

by Moggeee on Apr 29, 2008 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me guess!!

Bochy after the witch doctor shrinks his head?

" Their still Shitty" - Major Leagues the movie.
I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain. Currently enjoying it more then usual.

by daveinexile on Apr 30, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he could win 15 game

before his contract runs out….

wait.. come to think of it…

by RollingWave on Apr 28, 2008 11:41 PM PDT reply actions  

This would be an interesting post

if you actually had written about your premise on the linked site. I wanted to know why you felt we had a full decade of suck coming up. But the suck was just your post. oh well.

by positiveuphemism on Apr 29, 2008 1:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Good thing for me

Karmic Dynamic is a category in my fantasy league this year for the first time.

by biff pocoroba on Apr 29, 2008 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

To quote Bill Duke from "The Limey":

“There’s one thing I don’t understand. The thing I don’t understand is every motherfucking word you’re saying.”

Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.

by Kitspool on Apr 29, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Great flick.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 29, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

shut up

Yea, Zito has sucked it hard the past year and a month only because of the Giants karmic forces.

And who says San Franciscans aren’t drinking from the kool-aid?

by TedWilliamsBobbleHead on Apr 29, 2008 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks

I just spent precious spare time trying to figure out what the hell you are talking about. BTW, your photo is tremendous. It really captures “spamdouche.”

by out machine on Apr 29, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I really love the word tremendous in that context.

I don’t know, I just thought of that reading your post.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Apr 29, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I tried to figure out how to edit the Fanpost Title so people wouldn’t bother reading the spam and would just jump straight to the Peanut Butter… but I couldn’t seem to find where I do that.

Anyway, this is the second time this specific guy has spammed us and believe me, while there might be a third, there WILL NOT be a fourth.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 29, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we’re allowed to edit Fanposts. I’ve tried/wanted to on occasion but never found an option to do so.

SAVE_US.RAY
Get yer Nattowear

by Natto on Apr 29, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, and we can't edit comments either...

I wanted to turn one of these Chuck Norris Truths posts into a WalrusMan Truths.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."

by WalrusMan on Apr 30, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chuck Norris doesn’t allow that anyway.

SAVE_US.RAY
Get yer Nattowear

by Natto on Apr 30, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

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