Open Gameday Thread, 4/27
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 27, 2008 1:00 PM PDT
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Here are your 2008 two-out-of-three Giants!
"If I can change and you can change, then everybody can change!" Rocky Balboa, Rocky IV
Personally I have to rebut what Grant said.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I just don’t think it was a well formed argument.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
F. Lewis lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
E. Velez 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .257
R. Winn rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .236
A. Rowand cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301
J. Bowker 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .244
J. Castillo 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .230
S. Holm c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .263
B. Bocock ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .172
B. Zito p
Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: One of the few reasons to watch this year.
I really hope, that for his own sake, Barry Zito throws a good game today. I know the Reds struggle against LHP.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Though it’s a warm day with no wind—good for hitting as Kruk y Kuip said. Doesn’t bode well.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
jpon in midseason form
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s like you’ve seen him pitch before or something.
by John Paulies on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
8-pitch leadoff AB
Exactly NOT what this team needs.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Zito's run support, or lack thereof
Kruk and Kuip are complaining about Zito’s 2.10 run support average. Yes, that’s not been good, but neither has Zito’s 5.61 ERA and 1.79 Whip, plus 12 walks to only 10 k’s. So, it’s fairly obvious that his 0-5 record is more due to Zito’s general support of the other team’s offense more than his own team’s lack of support for him.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
yeah, the run support hasn’t been great, but the W-L record is not exactly the problem with Zito.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
exactly
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Frankly, someone like Cain can really be talked about for lack of run support. He gives up a run, and we can’t even give him two.
"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.
by thecrippesking on Apr 27, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Situation: Zito
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
The Reds having their way with the Giants' "defense"
Only 947 games until the end of Zito's contract
I'm thinking maybe we haven't solved the Zito problem yet
"You're all worthless and weak, now drop and give me twenty!"
Zito humped up to 85 mph on that one
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions
....
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions
Velez screwed up there
it’s WInn’s ball
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
wow
I can’t believe that Dusty let a rookie hit 6th
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions
Okay seriously wtf is this terrible bobbling defensive shit?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions
Situation: 3 stooges
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions
Jesus
What’s with our defense? Zito may suck, but they’re not exactly helping him out there.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
they're trying to make zito's head explode
veteran gamers trying to help the team in a backhanded way.
i like.
by ExcuseMeSwing on Apr 27, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
stop giving Zito excuses for his suckitude!
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
is the NFL draft on still?
later.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions
thanks, Sabes.
this guy is awesome.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions
Maybe if whatever Zito is doing,
he just starts doing the opposite.
"You're all worthless and weak, now drop and give me twenty!"
He might take that the wrong way
He might think “Hmmm, my fastball is 84 miles per hour. So, I should throw it at 48 miles per hour.”
Only 947 games until the end of Zito's contract
After
last night’s game, and this first inning, if I’m Bruce Bochy, I’m calling everyone on the team back to the park at 6am tomorrow for fielding drills. Seriously.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
Glad I have an appointment at the salon shortly. I can effectively avoid this crap.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions
addition by subtraction
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
All you can do right now is just laugh.
The game’s over already and Zito only has 1 out. This is just pathetic.
Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.
Sorry, Krukow: line drive hits aren't caused by bad defense
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:21 PM PDT reply actions
horrible defense on that triple...
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions
LOL he just gave up a massive TRIPLE to PAUL FUCKING BAKO
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
seriously...
now it’s just getting REALLY funny.
by ExcuseMeSwing on Apr 27, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
wouldn't be surprised
if Zito is put on the DL after this game with an “injury.”
I ♥ Eugenifred Bowkmeier.
how he’s NOT strained his neck by the end of this inning is a miracle.
by ExcuseMeSwing on Apr 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I can see it in the Chronicle tomorrow AM…
“And in Giants news, Barry Zito has been placed on the DL with a major case of sucktitude and a touch of “Foot-up-the-assitus” as well.
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on Apr 27, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Curious
Is this the same ExcuseMeSwing that used to write a blog of the same name. If so, just wanted you to know I was a fan.
"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.
by thecrippesking on Apr 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll meet you guys with
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions
A flamethrower
To getrid of Zito.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay I apologize, my computer is severely spazzing out here.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Barry ZiKo
got the pitcher.
Adopted papa of a bouncing new waiver wire 27 year old. Castillo hits doubles.
That was seriously the worst inning of professional baseball I have ever witnessed.
Only 947 games until the end of Zito's contract
How about we just go back to last off-season and have a real do-over
Only 947 games until the end of Zito's contract
Velez
Should he be investigated for some sort of subterfuge?
Adopted papa of a bouncing new waiver wire 27 year old. Castillo hits doubles.
Bright side
This will make the distinction between Zito’s stats and Cain’s much clearer. They had been disturbingly close.
the Giants get to hit, too!
bonus
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 27, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions
Edinson Volquez: better than Barry Zito.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Cut Barry Zito. Please. Eat the money. I don’t care if you can’t sign even one free agent for the next 6 seasons…
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
not all his fault
I’d be shitting my pants if my defense had made that many fucktard mistakes
They’ve given up on him. They’ve all banded together to play so ineptly just to show what Zito quality is at every other position
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
"and if you watched the first half...
we’re sorry…”
Turn on the TV and see that the LOL Giants are playing today.
Looks like a nice afternoon to spend outside.
by rightcenterfielder on Apr 27, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply actions
No kidding
has outplayed our whole lineup so far
by agiantmistake on Apr 27, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad news: Zito.
Good news: Volquez is on my fantasy team.
. . . Zito just walked Corey Patterson.
Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.
Seriously, at this point, I want Bochy to force Zito to stay out there for 27 outs
I don’t care how bad it gets
Let's bring the...
That game would last like three days though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Agree
I didn’t even occur to me, but that is fully bush league. The team sucks, the pitcher sucks more. Why steal
Let's bring the...
dude
for real though, it’s time. we can’t waste any more games on barry zito. i understand the contract. but when it comes down to it sabean MUST do what is good for the team. he has no choice to cut Zito. he’s untradeable and if not cut now, will lose every game this season. with the giants offense he has no chance simply because the best he can do is give up 3 or 4 runs in a 6 inning start, but in most cases . . . he just gets lit up. he’s done.
don’t cut him, but definitely put him on the DL with a pulled suck muscle or whatever.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I've never understood this expression.
Zito’s suck muscle is in perfect health and very developed.
Only 947 games until the end of Zito's contract
The pig pen
He can chase the hogs around.
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Apr 27, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
to pretend Zito's contract will never end
and pitchers never bend with the rainfall
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Zito and Velez
combining for outs!!!
Adopted papa of a bouncing new waiver wire 27 year old. Castillo hits doubles.
Drugs ? or taking drugs ? He makes me want to get wasted that’s for sure.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .
the pen?
i’m sure his 83 mph fastball will prove effective there, right?
As anywhere.
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Apr 27, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree.
Same damage , just later in the game.
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Apr 27, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Or a pinata.
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Apr 27, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I had the same feeling when I first saw him
"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.
by thecrippesking on Apr 27, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
seems like first base kills any prospect the Giants may or may not have.
It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.
by imovermyhead on Apr 27, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
7-0, 10-0, 99-0
doesn’t matter.
Volquez had limited his last 4 opponents to 1 run or less…so this game was probably over before the 2nd out was recorded.
Let Zito throw until his arm falls off. it’d be good for the bullpen, good for the team.
Barry Zito
with a side of Eugenio Velez and Randy Winn
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Castillo for the walk.
Adopted papa of a bouncing new waiver wire 27 year old. Castillo hits doubles.
Zito's contract deets
- signed as a free agent 12/06 (largest-ever pitcher contract at signing)
- 07:$10M, 08:$14.5M, 09:$18.5M, 10:$18.5M, 11:$18.5M, 12:$19M, 13:$20M, 14:$18M club option ($7M buyout)
- option vests with 200 IP in 2013 or 400 IP in 2012-13 or 600 IP 2011-13
- if 2014 option vests, Zito may opt out & receive $3.5M buyout
- full no-trade clause
- award bonuses:
- Cy Young award: $0.5M for winning once, $0.75M for 2nd time, $1M each for 3 or more ($0.2M for placing 2nd in vote, $0.15M for 3rd, $0.1M for 4th, $50,000 for 5th)
- MVP: $0.25M for winning, $0.15M for 2nd place in vote, $0.1M for 3rd, $75,000 for 4th, $50,000 for 5th
- WS MVP: $0.2M
- Gold Glove, All Star selection or LCS MVP: $0.1M each
- perks: suite on road trips
WTFFF
buyout isnt an option til 2014!!!
and he gets a suite on road trips%!
!@!
waiting for 2011....
Kruk:
“I bet most of the balks come when he’s in the stretch”
You mean when guys are on base
Let's bring the...
maybe?
"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.
learn from Zito Volquez
walk bocock now.
Adopted papa of a bouncing new waiver wire 27 year old. Castillo hits doubles.
Bocock continues to look utterly lost at the plate. I honestly think the pitcher should hit in front of him.
Giants Cove: You'll be a better person for reading
by watching his play. While he has made some fine plays, has a strong arm he also has made more mistakes that I would have expected.
He’s got a RATE 2 of 106 and his RZR is 9th best in the Majors, as is his fielding percentage.
Can you really ask for more from a guy that hasn’t ever played above A Ball?
Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.
soooo Zito?
for the 3rd inning? or a double switch.
Adopted papa of a bouncing new waiver wire 27 year old. Castillo hits doubles.
Patterson wouldn’t even feel it though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Hitting Patterson will show Zito has some emotion
He cares that guys are teeing off on him and stealing second and third when up by 6
Let's bring the...
why hit Patterson? For stealing a base in the SECOND INNING? Are the Giants going to rollover and not play too front this point on?
I understand the logic, and it was early
But zito is awful, and I want some excuse for him to show emotion and plunk someone
Let's bring the...
What makes you think he could actually hit him. By the looks of it, Zito couldn’t hit him with anything but a 72 MPH fastball!
Adoptive papa to Omar...so basically I'm screwed.
by PacBellBoozer on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
So, the Reds are up a TD, but I have to ask, why did they go for two so early in the game?
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
Imagine the family from, say, Fresno that makes it out to one game a year. Imagine that this is their one game. If I was driving, I’d wait in the players lot, and demand Zito give me gas money.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
okay...
I guess we can call him a gamer now and not laugh that’s tough to get up from
Will GAMER become one of those things we continually mock
but then start using seriously.
Let's bring the...
there are numerous Reds that deserve to go down
but Patterson needs to get it the worst.
And not from Pat Misch…someone with a fastball above 95mph preferablu
i think i’d like Walker out there on the mound. In case Patterson charges him, Tyler can literally eat him.
by ExcuseMeSwing on Apr 27, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowker’s hitting that wall pretty hard.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
Rowand is FUCKING NAILS
No truer words have been spoken. If there was anyone who didn’t respect him before, I’m sure all doubts about his mental toughness have been erased.
The Johnnie LeMaster Fan Club vice-president. E6 Forever!
Dear Jesus
Please make Jose Castillo go away
"Baseball is the belly-button of our society. Straighten out baseball, and you straighten out the rest of the world." Bill Lee
He should be...
666. Will the league allow that? I couldn’t think of a number that means “patsy.”
The Johnnie LeMaster Fan Club vice-president. E6 Forever!
i missed the first few innings
did Zito get booed off the mound?
After the first inning there were some boos as the team walked off. I think some were for the poor defense.
Let's bring the...
oh, it wasnt
all Zito…i just saw the linscore
Pat Misch
Just up from Fresno, throws a 1-2-3 inning. Showing the $126 million man how it’s done.
Eagerly awaiting Crazy Crab Bobblehead Night on 7/18.
should have written this several times today already
JT woulda had it..
Adopted papa of a bouncing new waiver wire 27 year old. Castillo hits doubles.
The Albatross
What should SF do with Zito?
1. Cut him
2. DFA
3. Start him
4. Move to bullpen
5. Skip a start or two
6. Find him a slumpbuster
Zito's last two starts
@ ARI: 3.2ip, 6H 5ER 3BB 2K, 78 pitches – 43 strikes
Today: 3ip, 7H, 8ER, 3BB, 1K, 66 pitches – 38 strikes