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Could I Interest You in a Lowrie?

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Reading MLBTradeRumors this afternoon, I got to wondering about Jed Lowrie, the Sawx blocked infield prospect.  With Pedroia locking down second and Lugo/Lowell signed for the next couple of years (both through at least '10 I believe), Lowrie has to be up for a trade, doesn't he?

Would Sanchez + Tanner/Matos/Pereira (not all three obviously, but a combo) be enough?  Anybody have an idea of what Boston's needs are?  I don't think anything less than Sanchez to start would do it, but I don't think it'd take any of Bum/Ald/Sosa.

Lowrie has a solid bat and great plate vision.  I doubt he reaches 20+ HR power, but he could do well with the gaps at our park.  Could be a solid 1-2 hitter for us for quite awhile.

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They were talking about Lowrie as part of a Santana package over the offseason and he seemed like a pretty important part too (when it was Lester, Crisp, Lowrie, other prospect). So I don’t know. The Red Sox haven’t shown themselves to be opposed to dumping an overpriced player who wasn’t working out for them (see: Edgar Renteria) in the past and if Lowrie forces their hand (and proves himself capable of actually playing shortstop), they might just trade Lugo.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Lowrie on the Giants though! I interviewed him for a documentary once (I don’t think that movie ever really ended up getting made though, due to extenuating circumstances.)

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by jponry on Apr 15, 2008 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I remember him being mentioned, but I thought it was more Lester than anything?

Either way, it’d definitely take a decent package. As for them dumping Lugo, are there any teams (other than Sabean, unfortunately) that would take on Lugo without the Sox paying part of his salary? If not, would Theo ship him out with those terms?

If I was them, I’d dump Lugo and Crisp as soon as I got a decent offer, salary be damned. Then again, I would have DFA’d Durham, Roberts and Aurilia by now. Obviously I don’t know what I’m doing.

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 15, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been wanting Lowrie for a while now.

Boston’s needs? None. There’s really no fit. Wouldn’t surprise me to see if Lugo is benched for Lowrie.

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by JT Jordan on Apr 15, 2008 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

That's what I was afraid of

I couldn’t see any (needs) that stuck out, but everyone could use more pitching. I just don’t know if they’d do it for any of the pitching we as fans would like to hold on to.

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 15, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've been wanting Lowrie ever since seeing him in the playoffs.

But being that he was mentioned in the Johan trade, I don’t imagine we’ll be able to get him very easily.

by withclubsauce on Apr 15, 2008 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

At first I thought this was a typo of Noah Lowry and winced as I clicked the comments, wondering how badly you were going to get ripped a new one.

But, no! Redemption!

Still watching out for Notgardo in Fresno. Hope you make it back up soon. We miss you 'round The City way. How come you never call?

by tk on Apr 15, 2008 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Lowry for Lowrie?

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 15, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOOOO thank you!

Still watching out for Notgardo in Fresno. Hope you make it back up soon. We miss you 'round The City way. How come you never call?

by tk on Apr 15, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I attempted to come up with a witty tagline to play on the name similarities...

...but alas, not my strong suit. I can make some mean Spaghetti-O’s though. With Club crackers, of course.

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 15, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but the assumption that Giants would trade for a young up and coming player (lowrie) is incorrect. The correct assumption is that Giant will accept the salary dump (Lugo) and give up a prospect instead.

by CTGiant on Apr 15, 2008 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

A man can dream, can't he?

I like to picture my Sabean as guy that knows what the hell he’s doing. Or is, at least, wearing a tuxedo shirt.

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 15, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The longer Omar Vizquel is sidelined and rehabbing the more interest SF should have in securing a longterm replacement for SS.

by wilriv21 on Apr 15, 2008 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I like Lowrie, but some people insist he can’t handle short. It might be worth a try for us, though, considering we have openings at EVERY DAMN POSITION ON THE INFIELD.

I can’t really see a trade fit. Maybe the Sox would be interested in Sanchez or Wilson.

by Dan from NM on Apr 15, 2008 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

While we need position players badly

All the position players in the world won’t do you crap w/o a solid closer. We need to try Wilson out and, if he sticks – not let go. If he doesnt, look elsewhere.

A lights-out closer is 100% required for a contending team.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Apr 15, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cleveland Indians 2007 and 2008

Not a contending team. Detroit Tigers 2006, 2007, 2008, not a contending team. Philadelphia Phillies 2007, not a contending team. Chicago Cubs 2007, not a contending team.

Florida Marlins 2003, not a WS winning team.

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by rfloh on Apr 16, 2008 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

RE: A lights-out closer is 100% required for a contending team.

And when, exactly, are the Giants going to contend? Not for another two or three years. Let’s try Wilson out, then trade him if he sticks. We can always find someone else with closer pixie dust three years from now.

by da5id on Apr 16, 2008 2:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking of him more at second, although he is said to have the arm for third as well. From what I’ve read, it’s more his range that’s questionable then his hands or arm. Most scouts say he can handle those positions fine.

Theo really has done a good job building up their farm system, so that needs thing is a pretty damned big problem. But I’d rather daydream about other team’s prospects than continually curse the heavens that Durham and Aurilia are still on the f’n roster…

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 15, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most scouts say he can handle those positions fine.

Yeah but can he handle “reverse cowgirl” like Bocock?

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by Goofus on Apr 16, 2008 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

...word is, he swings a bigger stick.

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 16, 2008 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

If you’re going to be targeting long-term shortstop options, Lowrie is unattainable unless you’re looking to move Cain or Lincecum. The Sox have no need to move him, and they’re pretty much set at every position.

Brent Lillibridge, who’s been mentioned a lot before here, makes far more sense than Lowrie would. Atlanta does need pitching, and is stable in the middle infield.

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by JT Jordan on Apr 15, 2008 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

SS - Future Options

I was waiting for an appointment today and found myself sketching out lineups for ‘09 and looking at options for SS.

I don’t think Bocock will ever have enough bat to be a regular either.

Here’s a list to consider – feel free to add to it:

Lillibridge (Braves)
Zobrist (Rays)
Jack Wilson (Bucs)
Wood (Angels)
Murphy (A’s)
Crosby (A’s)
Brignac (Rays)
Aybar (Angels)
Izturis (Angels)
Arias (Rangers)

by aGIANTfan on Apr 15, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Angels

The Angels seem to be a logical trading partner. Anaheim has a glut at SS and also catcher. GM Sabean should travel to Disneyland and close the deal.

by wilriv21 on Apr 15, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brignac ain’t going nowheres.

But I’d give up a lot for someone like him.

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by JT Jordan on Apr 15, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd Like to Get Wood

I’m a big fan of him. I would rather put him at third than short though. Can’t imagine it would take a Caincecum level of player either, which is ideal.

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 16, 2008 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wood has been a top ranked prospect in all of baseball since 2005. BA had him in their overall top 10 two years in a row and MiLB.com puts him in the overall top 20.

Everyone wants to have Wood. But the price would be high.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 16, 2008 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

"I'd like to get Wood"

I’m sorry, I couldn’t go past that line without a chuckle. Even though I just graduated, I’m still super immature.

If only we had a lower level player named “Mike Cialis”, or maybe “Donny Viagra”. We could trade them for Wood.

Again, I’m sorry.

Angel Villalona: Get Mean!

by AngelintheInfield on Apr 16, 2008 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s always givin away Brett Pill to get Wood…

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 16, 2008 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

what happes to Bocock if you get Wood?

by tyrannoman on Apr 16, 2008 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bocock goes down, of course.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 16, 2008 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bocock is up?

He SHOULDNT be up for more than 4 hours. There is a problem.

Angel Villalona: Get Mean!

by AngelintheInfield on Apr 16, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s how a character on The Boondocks died. “He took those pills that…help y’all. And you know how they say if the erection lasts for some hours to seek immediate medical attention? Well…he didn’t.”

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 16, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it would take Cain or Lincecum though. Maybe Bum or Ald would have to be part of the package, but to get someone like Wood, I’d be alright with that.

Other than Cain/Lincecum/Villalona, I say everyone’s available for solid young hitting – especially when they play IF or C.

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 16, 2008 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

SS

Lillibridge, Zobrist, Wood & Brignac(as mentioned, not going anywhere) are the most interesting options. I don’t think he’s interested in those kind of players, only proven major leaguers, especially given his apparent faith in our young, in-house shortstops.

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by GiantFan on Apr 16, 2008 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lowrie

If he’s able to stick at SS i’d have more interest, but not as much as a 2B. Not that i still wouldn’t like to obtain him, but probably not enough to give up what’d be required to get him, if in fact we have the players of interest. I think it’s fair to say that there’s no chance of Sabean being interested in this kind of move, at least until after he’s proven himself & then comes off the table.

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by GiantFan on Apr 16, 2008 3:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I may be in the minority

but I am not dissapointed in Bocock at short. Great arm, very good range.

I know that in the modern era, the desire for a big hitting shortstop is significant. I’d much rather have a slick fielder at the position than sacrifice the the defense for a much needed bat. No more ” Clanks” for Bats please.

It would seem to be easier to fill in the bats at 1B, 3B, or the OF than to find a big htting, good fielding SS. I do like Lillibridge, Brignac, Zobrist, and Wood, but don’t really see the Giants have any chance at getting them without some combination of Caincecum being involved.

I know that line of thinking is in the minority, so let the flames begin :-)

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by nvsfg on Apr 16, 2008 8:10 AM PDT reply actions  

After I got over the “uh okay” of the Bocock move, I too like him in this role. It could be a lot, lot worse. We could have Neifi Perez again or something equally awful.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 16, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Bocock put up an average around .240 – .250, I’d be more than happy with him at short.

by sfgiantsflgators on Apr 16, 2008 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I concur

And I think he might have a shot at it with some work. I am excited to get Omar back so he can go back down and spend some time @ AAA focusing on his Bat.

I’m already happy with him hitting < .200, because at least he only makes one out…

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Apr 16, 2008 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously though...

People are bagging on the Bocock and saying this and that, but how much of an improvement is Omar at this point? He’s lost a step, can’t hit anymore, so why not just let the Bocock play the rest of the season? Kid still leads the team in walks…so he still has a .296 OBP right now. With a little work, he can easily get his hitting up

by Gamer101 on Apr 16, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

With a little work, he can easily get his hitting up

While Bocock can easily get some things up, hitting probably isn’t one of them.

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by marcello on Apr 16, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who's bagging on Bocock?

I think most of us recognize that Bocock has done all that could be expected of him and more. He’s been very good in the field, and smart and patient enough at the plate to draw some walks.

However, he’s also batting .174 with exactly 1 XBH and 18 strikeouts. He doesn’t look ready to hit major league pitching, which is hardly surprising for a guy without a single AB in the high minors (and whose hitting has never been his strongest suit anyway).

Maybe he can figure it out at the ML level – he may have to, since Omar’s prognosis is sounding worrying to me – but that’s not an easy thing to do. There’s a reason why they normally bring guys up a level at a time.

2008: My previous assessment may have been overly optimistic.

by EliminateMe on Apr 16, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not baggin him...

I want to See him as our everyday SS in 2009. I just think that he would be better served learning to hit @ AAA instead of against ML pitching in high-leverage situations. That’s a hard time to try to develop a swing.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Apr 16, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not bagging either

but he just can’t hit. I hope someday he can, but his numbers at San Jose were…not inspiring. I would also like to add that Bocock’s double was actually an error.

by tyrannoman on Apr 16, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on this.

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by JT Jordan on Apr 16, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

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