Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

by Grant Brisbee on Mar 9, 2008 12:10 PM PDT in News

From Sports Illustrated (and pointed out by King Kaufman):

It's hard to imagine that Bonds' presence could do more for a new club than his absence has done for his old one.

I wonder what it would take to validate the Bonds-hurts-his-team theory? If the Giants win just as many games as last year, does that mean the loss of production was made up for by increased chemistry?

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Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

It means the loss of Bonds was made good by trading for a team of center fielders.

by Moggeee on Mar 9, 2008 12:12 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Humbugshittycrapshitmediapressfuck.

I never knew the true meaning of "having your head in your ass" until people started talking about the Giants after Bonds. Humbug.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

uh... have they looked at the Giants recently?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Mar 9, 2008 12:30 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

They don't need to look, though. There's just no way the Giants could be worse after losing their best player. It's just logic!

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Who would want to look?

Nattowear | artstuff | Durham? I know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 9, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

I hate when shit becomes trendy and parasite writers with deadlines think its the cool thing to say. . .

For WilltheThrill, this is Jon Miller saying goodnight. . . .

by WilltheThrill on Mar 9, 2008 12:33 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Lineup vs. The Rockies:

Davis, LF    .273
Frandsen, 3B    .250
Winn, RF    .333
Rowand, CF    .238
Durham, 2B    .333
Ortmeier, 1B    .261
Alfonzo, C    .045
Burriss, SS    .222
Misch, P

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: Your 2008 closer.

by sfgreg on Mar 9, 2008 12:44 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Hey, this is mostly a lineup I'd like to see opening day!

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Everything considered, I'd like to see the 2000 Giant lineup on Opening Day.

by Moggeee on Mar 9, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Actually I'll take the 27 Yankees

by E Ticket on Mar 9, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Boco@k rests

by Lidocaine on Mar 9, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

He's been playing a lot lately, so his refractory period is bound to be a little longer than usual. Give him a few hours. A good night's rest, tops.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

I dunno. These young guys are always ready to go.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 9, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

While that's true, eventually even the best start running on fumes and it's not always worth it to play through the pain.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey! You mean ME, don't you?

I'd like to be Commissioner of the Justice League of America.

by Mayor of 311 on Mar 9, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Hey! You mean ME, don't you?

Only in the sense that I couldn't possibly be talking about anybody else, though.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Hey! You mean ME, don't you?

Bochy needs to give Bocock a rest from time to time, otherwise we're likely to see less production coming out of him.

Hoping tk's recovery is faster than Raj going from first to third!

by Goofus on Mar 10, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Hey! You mean ME, don't you?

Yeah, he just doesn't look as explosive when we play him too many days in a row.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Hey! You mean ME, don't you?

Yeah, little spurts here and there just isn't offensive enough.

Hoping tk's recovery is faster than Raj going from first to third!

by Goofus on Mar 10, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Hey! You mean ME, don't you?

Come on guys. Those are just a bunch of phallusies.

Only 972 games until the end of Zito's contract.

by thehavenot on Mar 10, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Wait. Don't gamers play through the pain?! Bocock's not being a gamer!

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 9, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

I'm expecting him to be back soon. I've heard he has a legendary refractory period. . . .legendary. . .

For WilltheThrill, this is Jon Miller saying goodnight. . . .

by WilltheThrill on Mar 9, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Wow, I can't believe we both dropped the phrase "refractory period" on this one. It's just not that commonly used.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

I know, and here I thought I would be all original. . . or something. . . beat by 6 seconds. . .

You must be edumicated. . .

For WilltheThrill, this is Jon Miller saying goodnight. . . .

by WilltheThrill on Mar 9, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

I got my edumication at a four year unimaversity!

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

If the Giants win more games than last season, it will mean either/or that they played better this season or that they had more luck. I would think that Bonds would have little to do with the luck factor, but that his loss would be a highly negative factor toward the team's playing better.

by sharksrog on Mar 9, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

In his considerably lengthy prime, almost everything produced by Bonds -- like all the great ones -- had little to do with luck, which is much more a factor in the statistics and success of average ballplayers.

He supplied a steady stream of tangible and intangible offensive positives to a team and a sport that is commonly decided by chance.

by Moggeee on Mar 9, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Are you saying that Barry Bonds was good? :)

by sharksrog on Mar 9, 2008 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

That's Moggeee - always going out on a limb.

Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Steve Kline is pretty okay. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base.

by groug on Mar 10, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions

Limbering Up

I'm hurt that you didn't mention the feats I sometimes perform when I'm dangling out there.

Like swinging from my tail and screeching like a chimp.

by Moggeee on Mar 10, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: Limbering Up

To be fair, your chimplike screeching is not limited to when you're in the trees, unless you post in Gameday threads from the Amazon.

Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Steve Kline is pretty okay. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base.

by groug on Mar 10, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Limbering Up

He found the internet!

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Although I have no evidence, I'm thinking that this is the line form the front office, this is what they are wanting these writers to write.

by satyricrash on Mar 9, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply actions

Putout for the coaching staff

If Ortmeier scooped one out, I give all the credit to JT Snow.

by Moggeee on Mar 9, 2008 1:08 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

In keeping with my theme:

Misch just walked Posednik.

That BB is on Righetti.

by Moggeee on Mar 9, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

And the double play goes in the books to Omar, in absentia.

by Moggeee on Mar 9, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

this is the lamest of lame lines of reasoning.

i'm much more of the mind that playing alongside someone THAT much better than everyone else (like bonds) would ELEVATE his teammates play.

at least it works that way in music. think of an orchestra. it's not a congeniality contest, they get the best players possible. no orchestra is made better by losing their first chair violinist, even if that violinist was a jerk. and they don't consider chemistry when auditioning new players. period.

The Giants FO are just dicks. Look what happened when Dusty left. If they have to spin bonds as a jerk to make this season more marketable, obviously they are going to do it.

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 9, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions

Clayton Kershaw

I have seen the future and it is Kershaw. If Lincecum is as good as this guy SF will be very fortunate.

by wilriv21 on Mar 9, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Clayton Kershaw

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day we'd be hoping that Lincecum was as a good as a Dodger prospect who's pitched a total of 25 so-so innings above Single A ball.

Not saying kershaw's not a beast. Just saying I think it should be the other way around somehow... that the Dodgers should be hoping Kershaw is as good as Lincecum.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions

have you seen him pitch?

by wilriv21 on Mar 9, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: have you seen him pitch?

Nope. And I'm not saying anything against him, either, just that Lincecum has severly outpitched him at every level (granted, Lincecum was about a year older at each level), and has the major league success to boot. That's all.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: have you seen him pitch?

The kid is 19, will turn 20 yrs old in a couple of weeks. He has a devasting breaking ball. One of the best looking pitchers have seen in awhile.

by wilriv21 on Mar 9, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: have you seen him pitch?

I'm not saying that's not true. I'm just saying that he hasn't actually done anything yet, whereas Lincecum has done something awfully damn impressive - at the major league level no less!

Kershaw has everything going in his favor but hasn't done it yet. Lincecum also has everything going in his favor and has done it yet. The Dodgers should be hoping that Kershaw can do what Lincecum did. We shouldn't be hoping that Lincecum can be as good as a completely unproven commodity. I don't get what part of a devastating 19 year old curveball makes this untrue.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: have you seen him pitch?

they are keeping kershaw to a very low pitch count

and while the kid has a great curve, im not all that impressed by his fast ball

the biggest mistake the bums could make is rushing this kid up....so here's hoping they do it and destroy his career

hes a bum....so i hate him

by bacci40 on Mar 10, 2008 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: have you seen him pitch?

what's not to like with a LHP 19yr old's 95mph fastball with late movement?

by wilriv21 on Mar 10, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Misch is dealing

by wilriv21 on Mar 9, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions

Eliezer Alfonzo

Think the brother got all his hitting done in Caracas.

by wilriv21 on Mar 9, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

The Yabu backstop-carom deke. Works every time.

Gamer.

by 2X2L on Mar 9, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions

Sayonara Yabu

time to go to the pen

by wilriv21 on Mar 9, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Is anybody listening to this game at mlb.com?? I've been trying to log on for an hour already and can't get through.

Randy Messenger-Back to the Bushes

by rxmeister on Mar 9, 2008 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

it is working

by wilriv21 on Mar 9, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: it is working

This gameday thread, though, seems a little gummed up.

I'm running to the store to get some motor oil before it totally seizes up.

;-)

by Moggeee on Mar 9, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: it is working

The heartbreak of scrappy buildup.

by 2X2L on Mar 9, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

not on my computer. I'm getting some kind of silverlight error message.

Randy Messenger-Back to the Bushes

by rxmeister on Mar 9, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Timpner homer!

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 9, 2008 3:50 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Nice blast.

Related note: Chris George has a HR/9 of 1.5 in his major league career, which seems to have ended 4 years ago.

by 2X2L on Mar 9, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Miller with the Posnanski mention.

by 2X2L on Mar 9, 2008 3:58 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

"Everything else is Communism". Heh.

by non sequitur on Mar 9, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

My favorite radio announcer mentioning my favorite sportswriter? Awesome!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Mar 10, 2008 5:42 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

I didn't listen to the game, but can I just say - Please release Kline. He's not doing anything for his trade value. And if it's come to preferring to see Matt Palmer in a box score, you know it's over.

"But I AM a stepchild!"-Pedro Feliz

by Smotheredinhugs on Mar 9, 2008 4:54 PM PDT reply actions

Oh, I get it.

This guy is just being sneaky. He talks about Bonds presence doing "more" for a new club than the lack of it has done for the Giants. He never specifies whether that more is positive or negative in either case.

See, he's not stupid or crazy or lazy or ugly. He's just sneaky! And he fooled us all.

Only 972 games until the end of Zito's contract.

by thehavenot on Mar 9, 2008 6:29 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 3/9

Yes, as long as they reach one world series within the next 15 years, and lose...they will have done just as good as when Bonds was here. In other words, Kevin Mitchell did just as much for the Giants as Bonds did.

I think it helps the team in my eyes, just having him gone, and not having to listen to his whiny voice calling everyone "dude". Good riddance to the greatest player in the history of the game, who was also an annoying liar with no morals. Long live Jeff Kent!

by Jermz on Mar 10, 2008 8:43 AM PDT reply actions