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Around SBN: The Amateur Mathematics Of Linsanity

Kline DFA'd

So says Schulman, with confirmation from Kline, so its a done deal. Ten days to deal or release him. Merkin and Threets both make the team. The Giants look clueless this spring regarding their lineup, but the pitching decisions seem ok - giving the kids a chance.

Schulman also thinks the Giants may acquire backup catcher Humberto Quintero (good field, no hit) who was dfa'd by Houston.

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Oh snap!

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 29, 2008 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

hey, some good news. sweet.

Bengie Molina: stretching doubles into singles since 1998.

by jasomack on Mar 29, 2008 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

about fucking time

and now that he is so svelte, he can become a male model, cuz his pitchin days are over

by bacci40 on Mar 29, 2008 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Kline always struck me as a gamer.

by Change Up on Mar 29, 2008 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Being dirty doesn't make him a gamer

a common misconception.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 29, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

De-Kline

he now has some quality time to wash his hat .

by Pitch 2 Barry on Mar 30, 2008 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a stupid move

Kline should have been sent packing, but this move is stupid because the Phillies were ready on Wednesday to send Wes Helms here for Kline, and it was the Giants who backed away. So what will happen now that the Giants have told other teams that they can soon get Kline for nothing?

by Buck Henry on Mar 29, 2008 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Call me crazy

But I'd rather get nothing than Helms. An open roster spot is more valuable to this team than more veteran filler, IMO, even at a position of need.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 29, 2008 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK - you're crazy

But I do agree with you wholeheartedly - better an outright release than veteran filler, particularly given the team's inclination to play whatever veterans we have because "they give us a better chance of winning". But trading for someone young and relatively low on the enemy totem pole - a la Pichardo or Denker - who might contribute something down the line would be even better. Of course, if the Devil Rays want to trade Brignac for Kline, I guess I could live with that too.

by FavoriteSpring on Mar 30, 2008 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's the open roster spots

that give me the most concern as long as Sabean is around. I'll disagree with you about Helms - he could have helped here and it was definitely worth Kline to find out. I would rather take a shot on Helms for Kline than let Sabean make another mistake with an open roster spot and grab a backup catcher with no numbers whatsoever.

by Buck Henry on Mar 29, 2008 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Define "help"

I certainly think he might have helped the team win one or two more games in 2008, but I don't think that would really help the franchise. I'd much rather see them cycle through fringe prospects and organizational players than bring in a Helms-type.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 29, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Farewell, little buddy

Your pretty okayness will echo through the generations and give hope to a whole new generation of Mike Stantons.

I looked up Steve Kline in the dictionary. He wasn't there. If he was, it would have said "pretty okay"

by groug on Mar 29, 2008 11:24 PM PDT reply actions  

It's an old-fashioned vet dumpin'. By Gar, it's been a while.

Good job, Sabes. I promise not to hate you again until tomorrow.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 30, 2008 12:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Hey

My 2010 catcher rotation in BBM09 is Notgardo and Quintero. He's pretty good in fake reality!

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 30, 2008 1:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Quintero

is listed as 5-9, 215. I like him already.

by FavoriteSpring on Mar 30, 2008 2:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

So this is what it's like... when doves cry...

SAVE_US.RAY

by Natto on Mar 30, 2008 3:11 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't know if that image is the right context. I just GIS'd "Milhouse Doves Cry" and picked the first hit.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 30, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

1 down, 5 or so to go

The decisions they make with pitchers are, sometimes, not completely dumb. Dumping this guy to see if Threets or Valdez can do something is smart.

But if that's the case, why not last July for a box of baseballs or some new sanitaries? Sheesh.

by natteringnabob on Mar 30, 2008 5:52 AM PDT reply actions  

DFA for real...

Is this one of those times that the team DFAs a guy waits 9 days and then just puts them back on the roster... or is this DFA for real and for good?

by kennv on Mar 30, 2008 7:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Good Riddance Kline...

Granted we are going to field a terrible team this season but at least it is refreshing to see Giants management truly try to clean house. Yest it was Alfonso, today Kline and very soon hopefully Durham/Roberts will be gone too. Our pitching seems to be pretty solid and if we can just get the young kids some playing time in the field we can really be on the way to a recovery. PLAY BALL!!!!!

"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading

by Mordy From Monsey on Mar 30, 2008 7:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Huzzah

This is the move that sends us over the top!

http://www.baycityball.com

by xanthan on Mar 30, 2008 8:13 AM PDT reply actions  

When you DFA a guy...

...that's when you get Jeremy Accardo. Right?

by 2X2L on Mar 30, 2008 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ll miss St Anger. Not for any practical reasons. He was just a non P.C. kind of guy in my eyes. I always thought he might blowup again thus giving me an element of possible late inning entertainment.

Realistically the cleaning has too start some were so there is as good as any place among the over 30 and playing part time. Sabean, coffee break aint for several months or tell you get the roster down to 2-3 token savvy vets. It’s coppice time… you savvy??

I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain.

by daveinexile on Mar 30, 2008 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Kline was an entertaining guy. I remember last year when he plunked Torrealba after he hit a HR off of him and admired it. Kline was pissed and Torrealba said something like "What's he going to do, hit me with one of his 85mph fastballs?" and Kline did.

http://www.baycityball.com

by xanthan on Mar 30, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't that after

Torrealba stole 2B when the score was like 15-0?

You deserve to be struck out, when your first name's a verb.

by Cookyman on Mar 30, 2008 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

I forgot what the actual offense was, but yeah that's it. Kline was steamed.

http://www.baycityball.com

by xanthan on Mar 30, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly what I am talking about. Kline will not be confused with elite talent but he gave what he had. I value that. Especially on a team as dismal as last year was and this year has the potential to be. I just don’t value it more then the chance to improve.

I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain.

by daveinexile on Mar 30, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am just trying to figure out in what world you rather go with Aurillia/Ort than Helms at 1B. Ortmeier even has options so if Helms can't play, you can just dump him.

Does Helms actually have a salary? That would be an ironic decision for a team that constantly throws money at wash-up has-beens.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Mar 30, 2008 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

If Durham’s hammy blows up Helm’s might make some sense as a filler. But again another part time player over 30. I guess his upside is the Dodgers are standing down wind of him? Boo Yah.

I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain.

by daveinexile on Mar 30, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Durham’s hammy blows up Helm’s might make some sense as a filler

I don't know who's Helm, but I doubt Durham would want to use his hamstring.

You deserve to be struck out, when your first name's a verb.

by Cookyman on Mar 30, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why not?

Durham seemed to be using the bat Helms used against RHP last year. (221/261/313 just for kicks)

I am a Giants fan. Thus I enjoy my pain.

by daveinexile on Mar 30, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zenbita, this shows how your enmity towards Sabean clouds your thinking. a), Helms is a 3b, not a 1b, b) he is worse than Feliz, worse than Castillo at 3b, c) his salary is in the $2.5 mil range, d) adding him just adds to the log jam of vets-needing-to-be-traded pile. You should be cheering from the roof top that Sabean kept Threets over Kline AND didn't bring in Helms who would cost Ort and/or Velez either a roster spot or, ABs. This is a very good move, a move that should cheer the hearts of those concerned about compromising the rebuild.

by allfrank on Mar 30, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like Helms either, but...

This reasoning makes no sense:

"a), Helms is a 3b, not a 1b"

Ortmeier is a converted OF (22 career games at 1B), and Aurilia is a converted SS (109 games at 1B), but you don't want Helms (254 games at 1B) because he's "not a 1b"? Wha?

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 30, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

rē-bĭld'

Finally !! Could it be for real ?

Dictionary: rebuild (rē-bĭld')

tr.v., -built (-bĭlt'), -build·ing, -builds.


1.) To build again.


2.) To make extensive structural repairs on.


3.) To remodel or make extensive changes

My adopted son Matt Downs. Bill Mueller without the two-flap helmet .

by nvsfg on Mar 30, 2008 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

4) To go cheap, perchance to dream

by Moggeee on Mar 30, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

5) Profit!

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."

by WalrusMan on Mar 30, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mets Banquet

Don't you just know the Mets hitters are looking forward to
the prospects of feasting on his offerings if Philly signs
him now.

by lettinitfly on Mar 30, 2008 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

lefties

a few weeks ago i was expecting Misch and Kline on the roster (hoping to trade Kline soon). I thought Tasch and Threets were too hittable. Wrong again as far as the roster! I'm still worried about the too hittable part, especially Threets.

adopter/sponsor of "Go, Antoan" Richardson

by foothillsfan on Mar 31, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

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