Community Projection: Matt Cain
by Grant Brisbee on Mar 17, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
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PrintIt was nice to see a game on television. Filled me up with warm fuzzies, it did. That lasted about two minutes. Matt Cain walked the leadoff hitter, gave up a couple of bloops, threw a fastball a foot inside to Vladimir Guerrero that was raked, and gave up some more bloops. Then the Giants didn’t score. I’m sure that Cain won’t run into luck that bad during the regular season, right? Right?
Cain looked good, especially after the nightmare first inning. He had great control with his curve, though his fastball control was a little dodgy. It was nice to see him pitch well, as whatever hope the Giants franchise has for the next decade depends on Matt Cain being healthy, reliable, and one of the greatest pitchers in the game. If he struggles with injuries or ineffectiveness, the fragile illusion that the Giants can contend on the strength of their starting pitching within the next decade will fade. The sun will be blotted out. The Willie Mays statue will cry tears of blood. Matt Cain must succeed for the human race to survive.
This all goes for Tim Lincecum, too. No pressure on either of them. I’m just glad that young pitchers are traditionally the best bets in organized sports.
There are no guarantees that Matt Cain will continue to improve just because he’s a year older. That’s not how development works. But it’s all we have, though. We can quibble about including players like the Nick Noonans and Angel Villalonas or Henry Sosas and Fred Lewii, but, really, anything good about the Giants’ future has to start with Matt Cain. A poor projection means that you hate yourself.
Matt Cain
ERA: 3.35
IP: 213
K: 193
BB: 68
W/L: 11-12
HRA: 13
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ERA: 3.47
IP: 197
K: 198
BB: 82
W/L: 13-10
HRA: 16
I had to go for at least a K/INN... really, what else do we have?
http://www.sportsdork.com
Unlikely
With Matt Cain's K/IP not yet having been as high as 1.0 in any season and with his figure dropping a bit last year, I don't think it is very likely he will become a K/IP guy now.
Off the top of my head, I'll go:
ERA 3.75
IP 210
K 165
BB 75
W/L 12-15
HRA 21
Go Cain!
ERA: 3.81
IP: 203
K: 185
BB: 83
W/L: 11-13
HRA: 21
Bonds stands alone.
by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 17, 2008 1:00 PM PDT reply actions
ERA: 1.81
IP: 246
K: 283
BB: 10
W/L: 32-1
HRA: 1 (by Matt Cain!)
SHHBP (Scott Hairston Hit by pitch): 20
BOS (burning orphanage saved): 3
GWF (global warming fixed): 1
Don't want to be accused of hating myself, and I scored him in my fantasy draft last night, so:
ERA: 3.51
IP: 205
K: 190
BB: 75
W/L: 14-8
HRA: 17
Bruce Bochy's on "The Show" on XM at the moment with Kevin Kennedy. He said that Bocock is "probably going to make the team" and "we might make some changes the next few days."
Roll on March 31st!
I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused!
I thought the plural of Henry Sosa was Henry Sosae?
ERA: 3.51
IP: 206
K: 194
BB: 77
W/L:8-15
HRA: 19
I looked up Steve Kline in the dictionary. He wasn't there. If he was, it would have said "pretty okay"
I promise I didn't look at PLUChris's post before making mine.
...go at it, people who know things about apostrophes.
I looked up Steve Kline in the dictionary. He wasn't there. If he was, it would have said "pretty okay"
Well
That's the way I like my possessive apostrophes, so no complaints from me. If it was the PLUChris family, I think I would go with The PLUChris' but I should probably check my preferred manual of style on that one before promising anything....
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh dang, I did do it wrong anyway. It would have been the PLUChrises' my way. Since your correction, though, the family possessive is definitely the PLUses'.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Henry Soze?
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 17, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking Cain has a superficially disappointing year, giving up a bunch of home runs and missing a couple of starts with some minor injury, but quietly sharpening his command. In 2009 he blossoms into the best pitcher in the NL.
10-10
177 ip
4.13 era
22 hra
k/w 165/59
I'm with Evan
I think that is very likely for Matt this year (minus the injury, I'm hoping). Much like last year, his W-L record won't be very impressive, but he'll gain better command as he goes along, despite a few homers allowed. And then look out in 2009!
I'll predict:
ERA: 3.78
IP: 204
K: 189
BB: 68 (Grant was right on the money)
W/L: 11-12 (Once again; get out of my head!)
HRA: 15
Your 2011 SF Giants: the 2008 Augusta Greenjackets!
So negative
ERA: 3.01
IP: 204
K: 215
BB: 75
W/L: 20-7
1-0, complete game losses: 3
Unfounded optimism is all we have left.
ERA: 2.81
IP: 210
K: 190
BB: 45
W/L: 3-18 - all extra wins will be picked up by Noah Lowry and Barry Zito and their respective 4.30ERA and 4.40ERA.
I liked ResDog's extra column, so I'm saying...
SHHBP: 15
SHCCBMC (Scott Hairston Concussions Caused By Matt Cain): 3 - if we're lucky.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
you mean
3 - if scott hairston is lucky.
I sure wish that Ort Cloud would form a solid sphere to enter into this team's orbit.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Mar 17, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
ERA: 2.87
IP: 210
K: 201
W-L: 17-7
HRA: 19
Because of last year, Matty has karma on his side. Still we have a dismal offense, but no pessimism is allowed in Spring Training. That projection will come April 1st.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Mar 17, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions
I'm terrible at these
ERA 3.45
IP 200
K 190
BB 75
W/L 12-10
HRA 16
AK (asses kicked): 55
NT (names taken): 42
2008: My previous assessment may have been overly optimistic.
Note that...
...my projection would likely place him among the top 3 in the league in both kicking ass and taking names.
2008: My previous assessment may have been overly optimistic.
I'm only about 70% serious
IP: 195
W-L: 6-21
ERA: 2.97
K: 186
BB: 83
HRA: 16
WHIP: 1.06
run support/9 IP: 0.44
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
optimisim week is OVER
IP: 40
W-L: 1-3
ERA: 5.56
K: 36
BB: 30
HRA: 4
Season ending injury by June 1st.
Did you warn him first?
Or does that fall under the "blatantly racist crap" that we're just supposed to ban without a second thought.
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
HRA?
"Matt Cain , Hurra!"
There's another.
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on Mar 17, 2008 3:51 PM PDT reply actions
Matt Cain: Community Projection
ERA: 0.83
W-L: 6-21
IP: 226
K: 184
BB: 88
HRA: 7
No-Hitters:4
Record in No-Hitters: 1-3
YMU(Why Me's Uttered): 2068
"Branca throws..."
ERA: 3.16
IP: 208
K: 173
BB: 77
W/L: 13-9
HR: 13
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by GreenLightJerky on Mar 17, 2008 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
MINE
ERA: 3.69
IP: 199
K: 184
BB: 73
W/L: 15-12
HR: 16
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!
ERA: 3.30
IP: 215
K: 187
BB: 77
W/L: 16-12
HRA: 17
Matt Cain, cleanup hitter or starting pitcher?
by cain1rstballothof on Mar 17, 2008 6:06 PM PDT reply actions
Great minds...
"The sun will be blotted out. The Willie Mays statue will cry tears of blood."
Sounds like somebody's been reading the Giants-inspired poetry on my user profile page.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 17, 2008 8:39 PM PDT reply actions
ERA n/a
IP n/a
K n/a
BB n/a
W/L n/a
HRA n/a
Teammates Murdered 24
by E Ticket on Mar 17, 2008 9:30 PM PDT reply actions
only 23 i think
tim, he's all right
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Mar 17, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot to mention that Lincecum was traded to Minnesota for back up catcher AJ Pyrshitski.
by E Ticket on Mar 18, 2008 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Bodies found with heads smashed in from leaping out of windows following this trade: ...how many of us are there on this site?
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 18, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
ERA: 3.19
IP: 197
K: 172
BB: 68
W-L: 5-16
HRA: 18
Leads team in HR hit.
Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.
by Little Napoleon on Mar 17, 2008 11:03 PM PDT reply actions
ERA: 3.48
IP: 189
K: 178
BB: 60
W-L: 9-15
HRA: 19
SHCS (Scott Hairstons Curb Stomped): 1
STFA (Sh*t taken from anyone): 0
I sure wish that Ort Cloud would form a solid sphere to enter into this team's orbit.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Mar 17, 2008 11:27 PM PDT reply actions
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