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Open Gameday Thread, 3/16

I have a Padres-loving friend who has a gigantic man-crush on Jake Peavy. Sample conversation:

Me: So if you had the ability to give the 1994 Oscar for Best Picture to a movie other than Forrest Gump, would you err on the side of artistic innovation with Pulp Fiction, or would you reward the near-perfection of the Hollywood form with The Shawshank Redemption?

Him: Interesting question, though you can't just dismiss Quiz Show, either. The thing about Tarantino's impact is...

about two minutes later

...and that's how Jake Peavy helps glaucoma, which is what is missing from this whole medicinal marijuana debate.

It can be a bit much. But I started to develop a grudging respect for Peavy when he tried to throw fastballs by Barry Bonds in Bonds's final at-bat in Mays Field. Now Peavy gets on my good side even more with quotes like this about Matt Cain:

"Dude can pitch, man," said Peavy, the San Diego Padres' ace and defending Cy Young winner. "Do me a favor and tell him I like his style...."

Peavy respected Cain's role in BatFlipGate, too. So while my friend is still annoying when it comes to Peavy, it's about time to acknowledge that Peavy is growing to be one of those guys that you can't hate at a comfortable level.

I like my division rivals unlikeable, like Randy Johnson or Brad Penny, dammit.

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Peavy and I agree

Peavy is nearly impossible to hate. From everything I've heard and read about him, he's friends with scores of players around the league and is eager to give people props regardless of who they're playing for. If they play well and play hard chances are Peavy is going to give them a pat on the back. He's one of the reasons being a Padres season ticket holder as a Giants fan isn't all that bad. He's phenomenal to watch pitch and he seems like a genuinely nice guy.

Course, all it takes is one bad quote to change that. ;) *checks on Peavy voodoo doll, safely packed away for possible future use*

by GiantsFanInExile on Mar 16, 2008 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Ditto. Had him on my fantasy team the past couple of years, so I paid a little more attention to him than I normally would have, and he's an impressive guy. Of course, he can mow with the best of them, and that helps. I wish him luck. Even more, I wish him to be traded to our team.

When BB flew out in that last at-bat at AT&T, and Peavy went over to shake his hand, he just showed that he's all class.

The Johnnie LeMaster Fan Club vice-president. E6 Forever!

by Van Smack on Mar 16, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Peavy is definitely someone who's talent equates to his persona, but he has his moments each season where he can be an ass. He just needs to avoid the Cy Young curse his fellow ex-Padre pitching alums have endured after they've won it.

it's always noonan somewhere

by sectionop92 on Mar 17, 2008 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice to see Peavy, Webb and Holliday saying nice things about Matt, but that article definitely just further increased my own love for our boy. He's so awesome.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Mar 16, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

batflipgate?

More commonly known as ScottHairstonsneakedoutoftheparkinglotrunninglikealittlegirlbeforeMattCaindroppedhimlikefreshmanpsych-gate.

by ResDog on Mar 16, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

so Tuesday is an off day.

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

it will feel like we are on "Larry King Live"

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find it hard to root against just about any player, though I was pissed for awhile at Holliday for that billion-foot homer he hit off Cain. (The two were shouting at each other as he rounded the bases.)

Damn, I wish Cain were starting opening day this year.

by Dan from NM on Mar 16, 2008 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

who is this skinny kid at 3b?

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Quick Question

Why is Aurilia not the default choice for SS during Vizquel's absence?

He's no longer has the range to start 162 games, but then the definition of a backup is "not ood enough to start." I'm not that big a fan of the old vets, but this is exactly the type of situation that the team signed Aurilia for: filling in at all the infield spots. He strikes me as a far better choice than a desperation trade or a desperation callup.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

A broken-down veteran subbing for a (literally) broken veteran? I'd rather see almost any youngster in uniform at third instead of Aurilia.

by RichardMiller on Mar 16, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not that I disagree with you...

but Bocock and Burris (and anyone else being called up from A-Ball) fall into the "almost" category.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me likey Kotchman

like to see him in Orange and Black

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Proof Zito is better than Cain

Zito only gives up four runs in the first inning.

by Swager on Mar 16, 2008 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

However, Cain is cheaper

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's worth remembering that even if Durham starts hitting again, his defense still stinks. He just cost Matt Cain a double play.

by Dan from NM on Mar 16, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

He'd probably have had it if he dived...

...but I'm not going to dog Durham for not sacrificing his body in an exhibition game. Save the Warrior Spirit for when it counts.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is better?

Weaver vs Cain?

Weaver vs Lincecm?

Weaver vs Zito?

Weaver vs Sanchez?

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmm..

Toss up
Lincecum
Weaver
Weaver

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by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Cain and Lincecum are better than him, but I'd take him pretty easily over the other two.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Mar 16, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

My ranking

My ranking would be Lincecum, Weaver (close), Cain, Sanchez and Zito. Jered looked great yesterday. Matt looked better than all the runs he gave up, but Jered had several pitches working and stayed primarily down in the zone.

by sharksrog on Mar 17, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way-- "Zito better than Cain"

Cain is younger and will learn from his mistakes...Zito is older and only seems to care about bank...

by lettinitfly on Mar 16, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

But can Cain play guitar or bag hollywood starlets. I mean this are the important things we look for in a number one ace.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Mar 16, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bank=Dollies

Maybe he could run for governor of New York...

by lettinitfly on Mar 16, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

there definitely is a correlation

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone got any scoop on the "other' game today vs KC? How did SF get a run, who is playing etc

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Anyone else think Cain's velocity looks a little down today? I've mostly seen him around 91


http://www.baycityball.com

by xanthan on Mar 16, 2008 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

profile picture

OT i know but is that some type of muscle tissue fiber?

by sfgiants114 on Mar 16, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mostly fastballs

The Angels seemed to be mostly hitting Matt's fastballs and perhaps sliders. I still would like to see him use his change up more often.

by sharksrog on Mar 17, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like Cainer has settled in after that first inning. With some better "D" the damage could have been less.

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Bochy

I've tried to like Bochy, I have. But he doesn't inspire anything. He also is not crazy enough to make me angry. Just boring. Bring back Dusty.

Better yet, make Marvin Benard the coach...a fighting hydrant to lead a team of gamers.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Mar 16, 2008 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

noooooooooooo

keep dusty and his lack of concern for pitch counts away from caincecum

by m3lkor on Mar 16, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Player-Manager?

Still better...make Omar a player-manager on his return. Now that's something we haven't seen in a while...

by lettinitfly on Mar 16, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

New Baseball Position

Giants make it apparent that a role similar to baseball's "closer" is needed. We shall call it an "opener." Sign Jason Isringhausen, his new job will be to pitch the first inning. Every day. Then in the second will enter our starter. Its brilliant, and it just may work.

Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.

by Viva Gigantes on Mar 16, 2008 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Is this thing on?

I see we're saving countless runs with our offense...

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

how is the plumbing in Sin City? Big crowds from the fight last night?

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

No fan of boxing since Ali left.

Lemme check the plumbing...
...

...

...

...

...works fine.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sick of these AT&T commercials with David Ortiz. I expect that we'll be seeing even more of them throughout the season.

Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 16, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Winners

go to Disneyland.

"...AND BEYOND!)

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Um...

...exactly what division is it we're "primed to make a run" at the title of?

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

It's basic math for this team

We're going to need to do some addition before we can advance in the division.

by Moggeee on Mar 16, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long division.

Chulk is a math stud

I looked up Steve Kline in the dictionary. He wasn't there. If he was, it would have said "pretty okay"

by groug on Mar 16, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

This division doesn't seem so joyous. Then again, their music does make me want to kill myself.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Jonny Cat

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Chaps, please use the reply button. What part of the city do you reside

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reply?

The "We don't give a damn if it IS a desert with a drought - we're growing grass , dammit!" part.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

couple of years ago was looking at a place there. right off i15 before you get to strip - think it was called The Highlands

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nowhere near the Strip is habitable by sentient beings.

Now , "above" - that's a different story.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Little V

taken to skool by MLB closer

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Velez

Moves in what , three different directions before he swings?

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

To qoute a classic movie

He runs like Hayes, but he hits like sh1t.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ohhh , I get it.

A Gamer disregards the writing on the wall , in all respects.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Not quite...

Gamers can't read.

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by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um...

...because he ran into the wall?

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

because book learnin' is for pussies.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

off topic

that tiger guy is kinda good

by m3lkor on Mar 16, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

ot ot

So's that LeBron guy.
Now be a Gamer and focus on the mediocrity at hand.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

bulls fan

the whole chosen one/ king concept irks me.

he doesn't deserve his jersey number

by m3lkor on Mar 16, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

did he birdie the 18th to win?

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed

as was more excited than i've ever seen him

by m3lkor on Mar 16, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy is en fuego

he was practically written off by Friday afternoon

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like when our catcher throws guys out

It makes it seem like we have a real MLB team.

Proud parent of bubble boy Patrick Misch.

by Edd D. on Mar 16, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

OT

Lincecum's favorite Beatles songs are "Revolution", "Strawberry Fields Forever", and "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds".

Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 16, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Drug test the lad

Early and often. Very suspicious choices.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never knew he was such a druggie

Proud parent of bubble boy Patrick Misch.

by Edd D. on Mar 16, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing

to get congressionally investigated about.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

no Dock Ellis moments in his future,

just heavily influenced by papa Lincecum's record collection.

by RichardMiller on Mar 16, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh HUH!

Our Chosen One.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Bugs Bunny Palm-Ball

An impressive outing by Fortunato. Just might be the lunatic we're looking for. This team needs colorful players like him and Velez.

by lettinitfly on Mar 16, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Normally I'm against affirmative action, but it's probably a better criteria for selecting players than the one Sabean's using.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate!

Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 16, 2008 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

That's #74

whose ankle will now do a Schilling.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Bocock swings!

Goes hard but can't beat it out.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

OT:

22 and counting. Houston slapping the Lakers around 104 -90 with 30 seconds to go

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm a Kobe fan!

Kobe Tai , heh heh.

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Huh.

The Tyler.
First pitch changeup strikes?

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Gameday Link

can a brother spare a gameday link?

thanks in advance.

Uribe to Thompson to Clark: Don't tinker ever with chance

by tellusfrank on Mar 16, 2008 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm technically deficient.

How about a check for $15?

Aaron "Swag" Rowand

by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

after the first inning the SF pitching settled down

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Or, more pessimisticly

After they pulled the starters, SF pitching settled down.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 16, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pulp Fiction, duh.

by ignition on Mar 16, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Half-Empty Glass

Giants beat Royals with five (5) hits...Giants lose to Angels on only five (5) hits. It's definitely going to be a loooooooooong Summer if this is a sign of things to come.

by lettinitfly on Mar 16, 2008 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Bad Sign

When Cain can give up 5 runs in the first, and still be lauded as having a "good" performance, this team is indeed in trouble. Still waiting on our vaunted young pitching to save us from our inept offense.

Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.

by Little Napoleon on Mar 16, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spring training

The runs don't matter. The fact that he went 6 innings without busting his pitch count is what made it a good outing. The fact that 5 of those innings were strong is just cake icing.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 16, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants losing to the Royals 13-3

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

SCORE CORRECTION

Thanks for catching that score on the SF-Royals game!

by lettinitfly on Mar 16, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

CORRECTION/UPDATE

SF leading 3-1 middle of 6th. KC scores 6 runs bottom of 6th. KC scores 7 runs bottom of 7th.
Score end of 8 full-- KC 13 SF 3 (SF only 5 hits)

by lettinitfly on Mar 16, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Starting Rotation

With Zito pitching Saturday, Cain pitching Sunday and Lincecum pitching on Monday the rotation shakes out in this order:

Zito
Cain
Lincecum
Correia
Sanchez

Hope the bullpen is ready and able to pitch early and often, especially when you go from Corriea, Sanchez and back to Zito. There is a good chance the bullpen can be working at least three innings in each of those games.

by wilriv21 on Mar 16, 2008 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Right on

That is indeed the way the rotation looks right now, but why in the world would the Giants pitch Sanchez and Zito back-to-back? It appears the Giants will skip their fifth starter the first time around. Might the Giants actually use Jonathan for the first time on April 8th, inserting him between Cain and Lincecum? That would allow the Giants to separate both their two lefthanders and separate Cain and Lincecum without causing any of their top three starters to be set back even a day.

by sharksrog on Mar 17, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rotation

Looks like the season opening series in LA and Milwaukee will feature the likes of:

Mar 31 Zito
Apr 1 Cain
Apr 2 Lincecum

Apr 3 Off day

Apr 4 Sanchez
Apr 5 Correia
Apr 6 Zito

These three pitching in the friendly confines of Miller Park with that Brewers line-up could prove to be very interesting.

Then Cain pitches the home opener on April 7th.

by wilriv21 on Mar 18, 2008 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

BALLS

Manny played in the game on TV, as well as Garret Baker, Daniel Turpen and Danny Otero and where was I? Nearly falling on my face as I tried on very fabulous but murderous shoes at Macy's.

God. Damn. It. Stupid fabulous shoes. I miss good minor league baseball stuff because of you. I HATE YOU SHOES. I HATE YOU

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 16, 2008 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

GARRET BAKER PLAYED AND I MISSED IT?!?!

He's very nearly the perfect prospect!

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 16, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Upon further review that game wasn't on telly, but still. Sucks that I missed it.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 16, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rhythms of Spring (2008)

From yesterday's Royals' webcast, an extemporaneous poetic performance by Steve Stone, Royals' broadcaster, and Bob Dutton, the beat writer for the Kansas City Star.


Stone:
The Giants are going to be interesting this year, because
Like the Royals' division, the west, the NL west is a very good division now,
And the Giants are kind of trying to retool,
And, you know, the retooling process nationally isn't getting a lot of good reviews at this point.
Here's the 2-0 pitch. That's low.
One thing they do have are some good young arms,
Uh, but, uh, you know, as a team that was built around Barry for so long
And the home runs
And the huge crowds,
And built around power and veteran guys and...


Dutton:
I think you're being real diplomatic... They have a chance to be terrible.


Stone:
Yeah, and the Royals, while they're not expected to win the division either,
I think most people see a plan there.
They see steps being taken in the direction toward a winning situation,
And the Giants, most people, most, you know, experts quote unquote
Don't seem to see that.


Dutton:
No. It's like, "What the heck are they doing?"
I mean, the Zito contract is already looking like an albatross.
Paid a lot of money for Aaron Rowand too.
I like Aaron Rowand as a player,
And I forget exactly what the numbers were on that,
But I remember it being fairly eye-popping too
For what he can give you.


Stone:
It's almost like, you know,
You're a big-market team,
You draw big crowds,
You better spend money,
And they just spent the money,
When maybe you'd be better off not spending the money,
Or spending it on player development,
And kind of rebuilding from the ground up.

by 2X2L on Mar 17, 2008 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Oops, make that Steve Stewart, not Steve Stone.

by 2X2L on Mar 17, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

My only criticism is that there's not enough random line breaks to make it feel like the avant garde poetry it so clearly is. I mean, take this passage:

You're a big-market team,
You draw big crowds,
You better spend money,
And they just spent the money,
When maybe you'd be better off not spending the money,

Wouldn't it be more poetic as this:

You're a big-market
team, You draw
big crowds, You better
spend money, And they just spent
the money,
When maybe you'd be better off
not spending
the money,

Otherwise, this was uniformly excellent.

I looked up Steve Kline in the dictionary. He wasn't there. If he was, it would have said "pretty okay"

by groug on Mar 17, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The question is, what
Rhythm do
You prefer?
The rhythm of spring training baseball or
The rhy-
Thm of summer foot-
Ball training camp?

by 2X2L on Mar 17, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

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