Keith Law's Giants Minor League Complex Visit

by ResDog on Mar 14, 2008 6:10 AM PDT Comment 35 comments

Not sure what the etiquette is for this since it's an Insider article. But as long as I don't copy & paste the whole thing, we're good, right? (Ed. note: Unfortunately, no.) I normally don't like Law, but then he ranted & raved about our latest draft so he's grown on me.

The link to the article is here. It's got stuff on Villalona, Alderson, and Fairley, and it's an interesting read.

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Cool... too bad about Fairley though. He is supposed to be quite raw, isn't he? It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to take it slow with him.

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by jponry on Mar 14, 2008 6:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fairley is a long-term project. The Giants knew that when they drafted him. This tidbit is no surprise, and no cause for alarm.

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by leftymalo on Mar 14, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fairley is recovering from a shoulder problem that was bothering him last year, which may be why he's struggling now.

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by BruteSentiment on Mar 14, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the info, good to know.

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by jponry on Mar 14, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't have a lot of faith in Keith Law's views on anything. He may be my least favorite in a lot of unfavorables over at ESPN. He also tends to make snap judgements way too soon on far too little information.

by shawngf on Mar 14, 2008 6:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I like how he said his breaking ball isn't consistent enough, but also said it was only his second game of spring training in the previous sentence. Whatever.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Mar 14, 2008 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Law

I have to disagree. Given Keith Law's background with the Blue Jays and Baseball Prospectus, I'm sure he can crunch numbers with the best of 'em to draw conclusions based on broad data. But that's not really his job with ESPN. He basically travels around the country scouting prospects and future draftees. That means he has to make quicker, scouting-based judgments.

I think his opinions are pretty reasonable myself, though, of course, nobody's infallible.

by Dan from NM on Mar 14, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about Chuck Norris?

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by Anticon23 on Mar 14, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chuck Norris fact #143

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anyone.
Even Chuck Norris.

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by Cookyman on Mar 14, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nobody?

What about the Enchanter?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 14, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even Tim

I did see him on CBS 5 news wearing an unfortunate sweater. Looked like his grandmother dressed him.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 14, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tim

Just another proof Tim is actually 10 years old.

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by Cookyman on Mar 14, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know, it's entirely possible his grandma DID dress him.

Then wouldn't you feel a little bit bad?

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by Mayor of 311 on Mar 14, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd feel bad. I'd feel bad for him and that $12 check Granny mailed to him for his birthday.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 14, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If his grandma dressed him

perhaps that would explain why he (hopefully only used to) wear bell bottoms. (I remember Grant linking to an article a while back that mentioned that.) Those things went out of style a long time ago.

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by raisingcain on Mar 14, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They came back strong in the mid nineties among hip teeny girls, except they weren't called ballbottoms anymore, they were called flares.

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by howtheyscored on Mar 14, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Of course howie would know this.

Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 14, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I come back to check on all the new minor league tidbits being discussed in this thread and I get a fashion lesson.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 14, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As long as Fairley improves as the season goes along, we'll probably agree that's as good as we can hope for this year. It is probably a certainty two of our first four draft picks will be used on outfielders.

I'm surprised there's nothing on Bumgarner or any other noteworthy players. I agree with Law's assessment that Monell could be more than what is expected. He showed some good offensive numbers before going stone cold in the AZL.

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by sectionop92 on Mar 15, 2008 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also, don't give up on Tyler LaTorre at catcher. One eyewitness in Salem said the team's pitchers MUCH preferred to throw to him than to Jackson "Overdraft" Williams.

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by Lyle on Mar 15, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ya? I thought LaTorre was basically over.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 15, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He may be, Chris; I can't say for sure. In 95 AB's he hit .316 (*insert small sample size caveat here), so I presume he hasn't failed miserably yet. I was just passing along the anecdotal account that his pitchers were more comfortable throwing to him than to Mr.Williams, and that perhaps that was a good sign about his defensive capabilities. FWIW, and all that. As a lefty-hitting catcher, I'm keeping my eye on his progress - if any.

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by Lyle on Mar 17, 2008 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Recall that I rally around our minor leaguers with an unflagging spirit. :) I'd be really pleased to see LaTorre emerge in this catcher-thin system.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 17, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Catchers? Thin?

As a guy who only sees the major league team, I don't know what you're talking about.

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by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I stand corrected

Pablo Sandoval isn't exactly Nicole Richie, either.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 17, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He only reported on the guys who played that day, presumably Bumgarner wasn't among them.

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by Bhaakon on Mar 15, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yay

Wow, great news about Timmy II. Nothing is written in stone as Law says but I can't help thinking Timmy II will begin the year with Augusta at least.

The Fairley bit is disappointing though not surprising to me. All we heard about him was great tools, great, great great, but raw. But this. But that. Thank god the kid's still a teenager so he'll work it out.

And if it helps I can make a vat of my favorite vegetarian dish and send to AnVil; black beans cooked with garlic and onions, fresh salsa, light sour cream, and fresh cheese. Yum. And good for you.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 14, 2008 7:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs