Bonds Positive Test?

by BuffyLaCoss on Feb 14, 2008 5:02 PM PST

I just heard on Andrew Siciliano's Fox Sports Radio Show that Barry tested positive for Steroids in November of 2001. Uh Oh.

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Re: Bonds Positive Test?

Congress Must Act! We need hearings...lots of them.

by NuschlersDip on Feb 14, 2008 5:08 PM PST reply actions

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only thing I've seen so far:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080215/sp_nm/crime_baseball_bonds_dc_2;_ylt=AjLHNmcmLCgiOpe3PK9lXJAE1vA I

and they were talking about it on KRON4

2002? I'm over it. But I'll never be over Rich Aurilia.

by wjackalope on Feb 14, 2008 5:10 PM PST reply actions

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he also tested positive for jerkness and surlyness. i'm so happy we get to talk about this some more.

Southern California: Water thieves and Dodgers fans.

by jasomack on Feb 14, 2008 5:14 PM PST reply actions

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OH MY GOD THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING I'LL NEVER LOOK AT THAT MAN THE SAME AGAIN!!!!!!!!

please.

you will suffer humiliation when the sports team from my area defeats the sports team from your area

by nick @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 14, 2008 5:25 PM PST reply actions

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Hmm, looks like jail time.

by cheno on Feb 14, 2008 5:28 PM PST reply actions

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Bonds + Steroid = Hemorrhiod

by rellubcat on Feb 14, 2008 5:33 PM PST reply actions

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I care kind of...

by boonitez on Feb 14, 2008 5:39 PM PST reply actions

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This is groundbreaking news.

Brian Anderson: I can has spot in Fresno 'pen?

by JT Jordan on Feb 14, 2008 5:54 PM PST reply actions

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I guess the prosecutor needed to get back in the headlines for career advancements sake. Certainly, no one can take this leak of info as a coincidence.

it's always noonan somewhere

by sectionop92 on Feb 14, 2008 6:06 PM PST reply actions

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The "OMG NO POSITIVE TEST" thing stopped being a part of my care well over a year ago. Sucks for him if it's true. If it is true, though, how the hell did it take this long to come out? Just weird.

Doesn't change how I feel about any of it anyway, mostly because it doesn't change my belief about what he did.

And because it doesn't have anything to do with the lie he's accused of telling. I think.

Either way.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2008 6:08 PM PST reply actions

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Did Bud know about this? If so, he's got some splainin' to do.

by rightcenterfielder on Feb 14, 2008 6:18 PM PST reply actions

Re: some 'splainin' to do

No Sabean and Magowan distracted him. Thus Bud is absolved of all guilt. See blaming Sabean works for others as well!

by daveinexile on Feb 16, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions

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I'm shocked, shocked to hear this.

I'm sure I'm not the only Giants fan who sat watching the 73-homer season thinking "yeah, he's probably juiced, but it's fun!"

And I'm probably not the only Giants fan who finds the timing of this release just a wee bit suspicious, given Clemens' testimony yesterday.

by eugene on Feb 14, 2008 6:19 PM PST reply actions

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it was bothering the government that people were focusing on someone other than Barry Bonds when it comes to steroids. They had to come out with this information.

2008 Rolaids Relief winner: Randy Messenger

by rxmeister on Feb 14, 2008 6:51 PM PST up reply actions

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Don't be so shocked. The government just called ABC 7 to tell them that 2001 was a typo on the document and this test was from 2000. So Barry's single season record remains unsullied.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2008 6:52 PM PST up reply actions

HA!

BARROID TESTED POSATIVE FOR STEROIDS. ~~~~~ROGER CLEMENS~~~~~ HAS NEVER TESTED POSATIVE FOR ANY THING.

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Feb 14, 2008 7:47 PM PST up reply actions

No other player was as mesmerizing

whether they were juiced or not.

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Feb 14, 2008 6:35 PM PST reply actions

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Guys and gals lighten up. These suposed steroid test failures were tests done thru Balco not MLB and will most likely not even be admissable in court because Conte chose a process that did not maintain a documented chain of custody. In addition the tests were submitted to the testing lab under Anderson's name in most cases and whatever few might have been submited in Barry's name (one that I know of from Game of Shadows) was shortly thereafter (a matter of days) corrected to Anderson's name. I just do not see how the government proves that the tests were actually Barry's. There is nothing new here.

by giantsrainman on Feb 14, 2008 6:43 PM PST reply actions

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BREAKING NEWS: 2001 was a government typo. Apparently the test in question was from 2000 and is already known about or something.
Government says, "Wupsy. Ours Bads."

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2008 6:50 PM PST reply actions

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Fairanu-Wada crawled out from under his rock to report on ESPN that this was nothing new. He had the nerve to say, "I hate to disappoint everybody." This is a prick that has gotten rich from profiting off of Barry Bonds thru information that was illegally given to him. The only "disappointment" is that Fairanu-Wada wasn't found dead lying next to Heath Ledger.

2008 Rolaids Relief winner: Randy Messenger

by rxmeister on Feb 14, 2008 6:54 PM PST up reply actions

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Or rather, instead of.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions

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Rx Dood!

You are approaching E proportions in your ability to excoriate buffoons, idiots and assholes. Of course you're a nicer guy, so my list of assholes, buffoons, and idiots is probably somewhat longer. So much so, that I include myself from time to time--just to be fair about things.

by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions

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Hahaha, that was fantastic. I couldn't agree more.

Adoptive father of David Quinowski: Fuck it, dude, let's go bowling

by marcello on Feb 14, 2008 7:11 PM PST up reply actions

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Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Feb 14, 2008 7:42 PM PST up reply actions

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resemblance=uncanny

you will suffer humiliation when the sports team from my area defeats the sports team from your area

by nick @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 15, 2008 7:35 AM PST up reply actions

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Why do weasels of the homo sapien genre have such weak chins? Do they really think that emulating ballplayers' goatees actually make them look more manyly? More like the jocks they purport to despise.

Suggestion. If you have a weak chin, there are two acceptable remedies.

Get over it.
Fix it.

Wearing your significant other's pubes is not a viable solution

by E Ticket on Feb 15, 2008 4:54 PM PST up reply actions

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Relax dude. There's still plenty of time for him to overdose on something with a celebrity. I would prefer it be with Larry the Cable Guy...and the bodies are found wth Fairanu's hand in Larry's pants...That'd be insult AND injury right there...

by boonitez on Feb 14, 2008 8:22 PM PST up reply actions

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Where's Christopher Walken when you want to invite Fairanu, Hans Klok and Pam Anderson to City Hall for a recreation of the arson scene for the James Bond movie, "A View to a Kill"?! Just this time...Zorin wins and the jackaholes go buh-bye.

I just think if we're getting rid of one ferret, why not get rid of a whore and walking bio-threat?

it's always noonan somewhere

by sectionop92 on Feb 14, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions

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But Pam Anderson's hot. Fairanu is by no means worthy, even if she is a whore. That just means he gets what he wants. He's supposed to die, not enjoy himself.

by boonitez on Feb 14, 2008 9:46 PM PST up reply actions

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No one, even Bonds, is denying he took steroids. It's not like Clemens in that regard. Bonds is simply saying he didn't realize they were steroids. If they can prove he knew that was false, then he's guilty of perjury -- that's all that being fought over now, not whether he juiced. Lawyers help me here: is it also perjury if the jury concludes any reasonable person would have known under the circumstances (ie. constructive knowledge) or do they have to prove he was aware they were steroids?

by NearestNorwich on Feb 14, 2008 6:53 PM PST reply actions

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Essentially, yes. They'd have to prove either through direct testimony ("Hey, Bro, these roids kick ass!") or through proving far beyond a reasonable doubt that bonds, a man with an excellent knowledge of his own body, could not have possibly been unaware of what was being injected into his body.

The latter is very very very very hard to prove to any jury.

Pedro Feliz: Marginally better this year.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Feb 14, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions

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According to Game of Shadows it was not until 2003 that Balco switched Barry to the Cream and the Clear (steroids that at the time could not be detected by tests). Barry acknowledged in his testimony that he used a cream that he was told and believed was an arthretic balm and a clear liquid that he was told and believed was flaxseed oil. Neither Barry nor his lawyers have ever stated that they realized now that these actually were the steroids known as the cream and the clear. But they have left open without saying so that this possibility does exist.

Otherwise Barry has infatically denied taking steroids and he and his lawyers hve never stated otherwise. So, just where do you get the idea that "No one, even Barry, is denying he took steroids?

by giantsrainman on Feb 14, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions

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If they can prove he knew that was false, then he's guilty of perjury.
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Which really does trivialize "perjury". The Feds in the last several years have managed to make perjury less than, or equal to, an unsafe lane change.

I would buy the analogy that Treasury Agents used Income Tax Evasion to nab Capone for other unprovable serious crimes, or more recently RICO to nab serious WC criminals.

But here, the feds here are using "perjury" charges to ruin a man for extreme physical conditioning.

Same mentality used by some Police Depts to stop folks guilty of driving while Black.

by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2008 7:17 PM PST reply actions

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/14/MNU6V2J28.DTL

Southern California: Water thieves and Dodgers fans.

by jasomack on Feb 14, 2008 7:54 PM PST reply actions

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Nope, not true:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10644400

Schierholtz!

by KTJ on Feb 14, 2008 9:02 PM PST reply actions

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I thought it just meant he failed the test in 2000 instead of 2001, which was the fault of the typo.

by xanthan on Feb 14, 2008 9:08 PM PST up reply actions

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Or was that for amphetamines?

You crazy athletes and all your drugs.

by xanthan on Feb 14, 2008 9:09 PM PST up reply actions

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It's funny that all of a sudden we care so much about what the athletes put into their bodies, what they do in their off time and who they sleep with. Imagine Joe D. and Marilyn Monroe in today's world...all the tabloid shows would go ape shit getting the video and photos "you have to care about".

Not to mention how Joe D. would have Yankee fans going, "Ehhh, you see thah dame Joe has on him...YOOOOOO!!! I'd show her a good time...on Saturday night...you know, ya know!!! Shrimp Alfredo good time, not artsie, fartsie movie good time. Nope."

it's always noonan somewhere

by sectionop92 on Feb 14, 2008 9:58 PM PST up reply actions

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That's what I got out of it too. Oh well, don't give a crap what the feds do, when they should be fixing the budget problem.

Schierholtz!

by KTJ on Feb 14, 2008 10:00 PM PST up reply actions

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Fixing the budget by removing ourselves from an unauthorized, illegal war half a world away...maybe that's were we could start?!?

Sorry folks, just feeling kinda charged up as my chosen presidential candidate seems to be picking up some serious Mo.

Screw the Giants, but not Omar. I'm getting drunk and watching some footy.

by PacBellBoozer on Feb 14, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions

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or we could have gotten saddam's permission to invade. good diplomacy prevents unauthorized wars.

Southern California: Water thieves and Dodgers fans.

by jasomack on Feb 15, 2008 12:08 AM PST up reply actions

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The first Gulf War never legally ended. There was a cease fire agreement (not a surrender or peace treaty) that required Iraq to cooperate with weapons inspections. Iraq ceased to coorperate and the Congress authorizied military action if Iraq did not reverse it's course and cooperate. Iraq didn't so the war resumed. There was absolutely nothing illegal about the war. You may not like it because our intelligence gathering was wrong about weapons of mass distruction. But, once Iraq stopped cooperating with weapons inspections what else did we have to rely upon other then our intelligence gathering?

I have no problem with you being against the war or wanting it to end ASAP. You have every right to have this opinion. But, what I do have a problem with is you and others making up false arguements to support this opinion rather then just going with the real (though not nearly as dramatic) arguements that are factual and support this opinion.

by giantsrainman on Feb 15, 2008 1:03 AM PST up reply actions

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Jesus f'ing Christ!

How surprised am I that you of all people are making a mountain out of a mole hill with something I had to say?...........Not Very.

Screw the Giants, but not Omar. I'm getting drunk and watching some footy.

by PacBellBoozer on Feb 15, 2008 2:10 AM PST up reply actions

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Wow, who knew that in addition to being a master of all things Baseball, rainman is also a Master of War.

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Feb 15, 2008 9:04 AM PST up reply actions

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Perhaps he is also a Master of Orion?

"When Jackson Williams thinks of how many times Madison Bumgarner has tried to kill Tyler Walker..."

by multiphasic on Feb 15, 2008 9:35 AM PST up reply actions

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Masters of War

"natto is just weird and gross in smell, texture, and taste" - BVCE

by SF Pete on Feb 15, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions

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Quick, everyone back to Washington! I'll bring the self-righteous indignation if someone else can pick up the shameless posturing.

by English Professor on Feb 15, 2008 1:36 AM PST reply actions

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I've got a truckload of shameless posturing just itching to be used. I'll meet you in the Rotunda. Maybe Roger and Andy can put us up for a few days.

"I think I'd trust Amy Winehouse to guard my bag of coke before I'd trust Sabes to build my offense." -Dan Szymborski, Baseball Think Factory

by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 16, 2008 7:46 AM PST up reply actions

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so the new report, was really the old report with a typo...from a test done by balco...not the mlb

christ...i hate both the justice dept and the press

a pox on both their fucking houses

by bacci40 on Feb 15, 2008 2:34 AM PST reply actions

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No politix, pls.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Feb 15, 2008 7:59 AM PST reply actions

Prosecution Press Release

Yesterday, we released a filing stating that Barry Bonds had failed a steroid test in November 2001. Due to an unfortunate clerical error, a small inaccuracy was introduced. Instead of "2001", it should have read "2000". Also, instead of "Barry Bonds" it should have read "Armando Benitez". The word "steroid" was also a typo and should have read "donut".

We stand by the substance of our filing.

2008: The year the Giants begin to stop sucking.

by EliminateMe on Feb 15, 2008 10:08 AM PST reply actions