Tweaking
From sfgiants.com:
Dan Ortmeier
Ray Durham
Omar Vizquel
Kevin Frandsen
Dave Roberts
Aaron Rowand
Randy Winn
Eliezer Alfonzo
Rich Aurilia
Fred Lewis
Rajai Davis
Nate Schierholtz
Assuming that there aren't any spring training injuries or trades and that Sabean is of a similar mind regarding Schierholtz's development, the Giants will actually need to add a bench player. That's a big assumption. The article is written as if the Joe Crede trade is a forgone conclusion. We hardly knew ye, Jonathan Sanchez. If the gods intervene, though, and don't bequeath this awful roster an unnecessary one-year rental at a high price, there will be slim pickings. Here are the non-roster invitees with an outside shot:
And here's a screenshot of my detailed spreadsheet of MLB-ready prospects in the upper levels of the Giants system:
There really aren't too many appealing choices between the two groups, but I'm all for giving Justin Leone a spot on the bench. He's shown a little power and patience in the minors, and he can play every position but catcher. Not that I'd want to see him at shortstop, but he can at least do a reasonable facsimile of whatever Aurilia can do at short these days.
I hereby announce that Justin Leone is the winner of the 2008 Brian Dallimore Award for Unrealistic Expectations Placed on a Career Triple-A Journeyman. The BDAUEPCTAJs aren't just given to anyone, so congrats to Justin.
What the article really means, though: The Giants are trading for Joe Crede. It's a matter of when, not if.
What the real question should be in the sfgiants.com article: How can we give away Dave Roberts to create playing time for the young outfielders?

Yeah, well, I'm going to do it until the horse turns into a fine powder. And then I'll beat the powder. These are not idle threats.
Sorry. I got off track. Comment starter: Last bench spot? Will the Giants bury three young outfielders on the bench, will they trade for Crede, or will a mystery man emerge to take a utility role?
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by howtheyscored on Feb 13, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by Grant on Feb 13, 2008 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Feb 13, 2008 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Feb 13, 2008 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Of course, Crede coming to SF would make this point mute, for all intensive purposes.
by Goofus on Feb 13, 2008 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by lincysgiants on Feb 13, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by NearestNorwich on Feb 13, 2008 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by wcovington on Feb 16, 2008 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Moot.
by Viliphied on Feb 13, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Feb 13, 2008 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Goofus on Feb 13, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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No, really, I do laugh. Sorry if that sounded sarcastic.
by EliminateMe on Feb 13, 2008 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MOOPS! MOORS! MOOPS! MOORS!
by WalrusMan on Feb 13, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MOOT! MOOT!
by EliminateMe on Feb 13, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Lyle on Feb 13, 2008 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Sheesh
by Goofus on Feb 13, 2008 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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And yes, whole should be hole. I know.
And Goofus, I got it immediately. And I chuckled.
by howtheyscored on Feb 13, 2008 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Too bad it's not on YouTube.
by achiappanza on Feb 13, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Goofus on Feb 13, 2008 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Duh.
by groug on Feb 13, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Feb 13, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Eugenio Velez
Nate Schierholtz
Most teams have a much longer list. The Giants don't, so they shouldn't just assume that the only two players on the list should be relegated to utility players.
by Grant on Feb 13, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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I guess I was wrong, though. Weird, because normally I can read your tone pretty well.
by howtheyscored on Feb 13, 2008 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Hopefully the 2008 draft will double the size...
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Feb 13, 2008 9:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Grant on Feb 13, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by groug on Feb 13, 2008 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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If EV could hit at least one game-winning grand slam a la Brian Dallimore, we wouldn't complain. Much.
by Kitspool on Feb 13, 2008 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean?
What about....
Eh..
Yea alright I get it.
by WalrusMan on Feb 13, 2008 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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We also need a left-handed first baseman, but maybe that's Schierholtz's spot.
by Evan on Feb 13, 2008 2:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Ivan Ochoa it is.
by Roger on Feb 13, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Evan on Feb 13, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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my cat clayton (pictured here at his research station) was named after "cadillac".

note the BEAT LA cup where he keeps his pencils and rulers.
by The Gene Hackman on Feb 13, 2008 6:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Goofus on Feb 13, 2008 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seeking a response to your wordplay
by Moggeee on Feb 13, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Feb 13, 2008 2:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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{scratches head}
Now that Pedro Feliz is gone, what's the over/under when, as long as this philosophy holds up, we see Kevin Frandsen dons the catcher's gear?
by LittleCableCars on Feb 13, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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I really hope that Baggarly was channeling Grant's sarcasm here.
by blank on Feb 13, 2008 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by petalumatim on Feb 13, 2008 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by jasomack on Feb 13, 2008 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course..
by WalrusMan on Feb 13, 2008 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Leone or Velez on hand to back up Omar, that's great with me. Maybe if somebody gets an injury, or they find a way to ship a dead horse to the Bosox.
by foothillsfan on Feb 13, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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I find it hard to fathom that Grant could post something about the Giants position player situation that would actually lower my expectations.
Hey, every cloud has a black heart of hatred and misery.
by zenbitz on Feb 13, 2008 2:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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The 4 non-roster invites are all about as bad at the plate as Pedro Feliz. Probably worse.
by zenbitz on Feb 13, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: amazing NRI guys
Ochoa is the real prospect (if you close your eyes halfway). Just 25, had his best year ever for OPS--.767--and that in his first year at AAA. So, obviously, he will improve even more if he jumps to the majors. And besides old Ivan, who is the shortstop for 09?
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Feb 13, 2008 3:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by jasomack on Feb 13, 2008 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Give the last spot to Leone, and put him in there when Aurilia and Durham are both batting .214 in May. I hope he has a HUGE spring and Sabean thinks better of dealing for Crede.
Hopefully Ochoa's 767 OPS at AAA last year wasn't an illusion. It was his first stop over 669, and only came in 179 AB's... but we have to hope for something next year, right? Someone has to keep Vizquel's '09 option from vesting.
Brett Harper's an interesting prospect. Interesting for a Giants prospect, but interesting nevertheless.
by jasomack on Feb 13, 2008 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Lewis-Davis-Scheirholtz starting outfield... in a parallel universe where the Giants are actually rebuilding.
by Kid Fresh on Feb 13, 2008 5:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Feb 13, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2008 8:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, a little OT
Boch and Rags thought the rotation might look like this:
Cain, Zito, Lincecum, Lowry, Corriera
Don't know if this is strictly for ST and I'm sure it will be pending on a trade. But I'm digging on the idea of Matt to deservedly open up the year.
by SoFa King Mike on Feb 13, 2008 9:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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