Guess the Comparable Pitcher!

by Evan on Feb 1, 2008 12:28 PM PST Comment 26 comments

The 2008 Pecotas are starting to come out. They're ugly. You could have guessed that.

But can you guess which current Giants pitcher or prospect has one of the following pitchers as one of his top four comps? Please, no wagering.

Okay, wagering. What do I care.

Dave Stewart
Tug McGraw
Vinegar Bend Mizell
Darren Dreifort
Jung Bong
Paul Spoljaric, Yorkis Perez, Arnold Earley, Mickey Mahler*
Felix Rodriguez
Damian Moss
Antonio Alfonseca
Phil Hughes, Matt Cain, Roy Halladay

* included only because this is the best collection of names ever.

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Fe-Rod AND Moss??

::Shudders::

Giant Expectations

by UnleashTheGore on Feb 1, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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I was going to guess "Matt Cain" but it seems unlikely that his no. 10 comparable would be himself.

I'm going with Zito, because it would destroy my psyche if it was Lincecum.

by zenbitz on Feb 1, 2008 12:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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Sorry, I wrote this poorly. There are ten questions and ten answers. Stew is a comp for one Giants pitcher, Tug for another, etc.

by Evan on Feb 1, 2008 12:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

my only guesses

Wilson
Lowry
Lincecum

Giant Expectations

by UnleashTheGore on Feb 1, 2008 1:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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Dave Stewart - Alderson
Tug McGraw - Zito
Vinegar Bend Mizell - Lowry
Darren Dreifort - Corriea
Jung Bong - Sanchez
Paul Spoljaric, Yorkis Perez, Arnold Earley, Mickey Mahler* - Threets
Felix Rodriguez - Sosa
Damian Moss - Pat Misch
Antonio Alfonseca - Brian Wilson
Phil Hughes, Matt Cain, Roy Halladay - Lincecum

by bendito on Feb 1, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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Here's my list. This is not based on stats but rather on who these pitchers remind me of:

Matt Cain
Randy Messenger
Vinnie Chulk (I have no idea who Vinegar Bend Mizell is)
Kevin Correia
Jonathan Sanchez
Steve Kline
Brian Wilson
Noah Lowry
Brad Hennessey
Tim Lincecum

Rajai Davis: fast.

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Feb 1, 2008 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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Ah, didn't see the part where it could be a prospect. Screw it, my guesses stand.

Rajai Davis: fast.

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Feb 1, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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Matt Cain
Brad Hennessey
Merkin Valdez
Tim Alderson
Erick Threets
Brian Anderson
Henry Sosa
Noah Lowry
Brian Wilson

.10 Tim Lincecum

Are you at liberty to say where you got the PECOTAs?

by Dan from NM on Feb 1, 2008 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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http://baseballprospectus.com/fantasy/

I stumbled across them.

by Evan on Feb 1, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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Thanks. The PECOTAs are a little depressing.

by Dan from NM on Feb 2, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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10. Tim Alderson

by Mike on Feb 1, 2008 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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I think this is a much better guess than Tim Lincecum. Personally.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Feb 1, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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Dave Stewart - Tim Lincecm
Tug McGraw - Brian Wilson
Vinegar Bend Mizell - Zito
Darren Dreifort - Tyler Walker
Jung Bong - Kevin Correia
Paul Spoljaric, Yorkis Perez, Arnold Earley, Mickey Mahler* - Noah Lowry
Felix Rodriguez - Vinnie Chulk
Damian Moss - Sanchez
Antonio Alfonseca - Billy Sadler
Phil Hughes, Matt Cain, Roy Halladay - Matt Cain

"Candlestick made me a man." - Will Clark

by MeSoKrabby on Feb 1, 2008 2:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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you know, I think Matt Cain's best comp is himself!

Pedro Feliz: Marginally better this year.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Feb 1, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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I won't guess, because I already downloaded them. But here's a hint: Lowry's projection is something close to your worst nightmare.

there is no pain greater than being behind the Rockies in the standings

by oldjacket on Feb 1, 2008 3:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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He's Damian Moss, isn't he? ISN'T HE?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Feb 1, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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ding ding ding!

also, with lowry's peripherals a 4.72 ERA is not my worst nightmare...honestly i wouldnt have been suprised to see an projection over 5.00

what did surprise me is the IP projections for the Giants rotation
cain: 168.7 IP
lincecum: 140.2 IP
zito: 158.0 IP
lowry: 106.2 IP

seriously??? even ignoring lincecum and lowry, what evidence is there to support the big drop in cain (200 IP last year) and zito (196.2 IP last year, like 215 IP avg over his career)

by Mike on Feb 1, 2008 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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PECOTA likes Sanchez. It Doesn't LIKE him, but it likes him.

there is no pain greater than being behind the Rockies in the standings

by oldjacket on Feb 1, 2008 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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OK, OK. Whats the answer the suspense is killing me.

by Franchise55 on Feb 1, 2008 8:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

answers

Dave Stewart: Kevin Correia. Nice, right? Greybeards will remember that Stewart was a top prospect who flopped, bounced around for a while, and finally became a great pitcher at the age of 29 when he got his head together and discovered the forkball. Hard to see any predictive value for Correia in all that, but it's fun to imagine.

Tug McGraw: Jonathan Sanchez. One of the best lefty relievers ever? I'd take that. Maybe Sanchez should learn a screwball. Does anyone even throw a screwball anymore?

Vinegar Bend Mizell: Zito. Mizell was a lefty with a big curve who pitched for the Cards in the fifties, and wound up his career with the '62 Mets at the age of 31 (uh-oh). He went on to become a Republican congressman and an apparatchik in the Ford and Reagan administrations. I'm pretty sure Zito won't track his career that far.

Dreifort: Brian Wilson. Dreifort had one of the highest hype-to-performance ratios in major-league history, but he had flashes of greatness in between injuries.

Jung Bong: Clayton Tanner. I just like to namecheck Jung Bong whenever possible.

Spoljaric et al: Taschner. Unimpressive bullpen lefties all.

Felix Rodriguez: Henry Sosa.

Moss: Lowry.

Alfonseca: Messenger. He also has Dan Wheeler among his comps.

Hughes/Cain/Halladay: Tim Alderson. I don't know how you get a comp for a pitcher with five professional innings, but still, schwing.

other top comps:

Cain: Smoltz
Lincecum: Billy Loes (Dodgers pitcher in the '50s ... had a good rookie season, then years of mediocrity)
Hennessey: Jeff Shaw
Ortiz: Kent Mercker
Bumgarner: Trever Miller

by Evan on Feb 2, 2008 6:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs