C.C. Sabathia, Part XVII
From the L.A. Times:
While I'm not a big fan of committing $120M over six seasons to another pitcher, if the math is something like...:
$120M (Sabathia joining the team)
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$44M (Rowand going away)
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Sabathia for 6 years/$76M!
...I could be interested. Fuzzy math, sure. But I'm worried that this will be the last year that Rowand's contract is tradable. Other than Rowand, there isn't a tradable player whose salary can help make room for Sabathia's salary.
Or, and I hate to even bring this up, but maybe I shouldn't pay attention to every stray rumor from the Winter Meetings.
Nah. Where's the fun in being prudent and respectable?
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The official would not confirm whether the Giants had offered a contract to Sabathia but said they would need to make other moves before they could sign him.
In other words, they need to move some bad contracts first. That is not going to happen.
by Lars The Wanderer on
Dec 8, 2008 5:50 PM PST
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Frankly
I think Rowand may be MORE tradeable after next season IF he rebounds.
by FairweatherFan on
Dec 8, 2008 5:51 PM PST
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Also, I should point out that I don’t think Rowand is useless. He just isn’t worth the investment on a team with Randy Winn.
by Grant on
Dec 8, 2008 5:52 PM PST
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They can maybe move him
If they sent a top-shelf pitching prospect and a sizable chunk of money along for the ride.
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Dec 8, 2008 5:54 PM PST
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or how about an true ace starter like Barry Zito!
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Dec 8, 2008 6:27 PM PST
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*Jerry Seinfeld high voice with a hand wave*
Un-Tradeable!
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Jerry Seinfeld (any way)
Un-Watchable
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
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Eh, it is kind of boring.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
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Dec 9, 2008 7:06 AM PST
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*sigh*
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
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Dec 9, 2008 7:37 AM PST
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I didn’t say it was bad.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
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Dec 9, 2008 8:09 AM PST
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wow
you…you…
I’m speechless.
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Dec 9, 2008 8:15 AM PST
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I don’t get what I did that’s so wrong here!
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Golden Boy.
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heh
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Dec 9, 2008 9:47 AM PST
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oh not much
just that you would blaspheme arguably the greatest TV show of all time.
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by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 9:38 AM PST
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I just don’t see how it’s blasphemy. The show was slow, which made it kind of boring. I said nothing negative about the quality of Seinfeld. I prefer to save all of my comments on the negative quality of things for Arrested Development.
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I guess
when I’m laughing I just don’t consider something boring. But hey, that’s why they have a remote, so we don’t all have to watch the same thing.
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by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 10:22 AM PST
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I feel like I dragged howee into my lynching here…I find Seinfeld very formalistic. I never saw it when it was a weekly, so perhaps my initial exposure to it in syndication amplified my response.
And the whole show about nothing…sheesh.
Definitely the Led Zeppelin of sitcoms.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
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Dec 9, 2008 10:51 AM PST
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Definitely the Led Zeppelin of sitcoms.
The sentence fails on so many levels I can’t even…I mean…just…wow.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
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Dec 9, 2008 11:34 AM PST
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A bit of a troll I admit. Zep’s day ended in about ’73 so they had a few good seasons.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
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Dec 9, 2008 11:42 AM PST
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They had some good performances later on..
Sure they were fewer and farer in between than earlier (pretty much every early ‘69 show I’ve heard is amazing) but there were still good shows in ‘75 and ’77. And you can’t say all of In Through The Out Door and Presence are horrible.
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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Nooooo…body’s fault.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
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Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM PST
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YOU MY FRIEND HAVE BROKEN TWO CARDINAL WALRUSMAN RULES.
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“just that you would blaspheme arguably the
greatestmost over-rated TV show of all time.”
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Dec 9, 2008 10:59 AM PST
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whatever
Like I said, to each his own. You can like whatever you enjoy watching, and those with a sense of humor can enjoy Seinfeld.
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by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 11:01 AM PST
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Actually,
I thought the show was very funny sometimes. But it was very New York-centric, which could make it annoying sometimes. There were some funny concepts, but ultimately, whether it’s comedy or drama, what separates the great from the good is the writing. The writing on Seinfeld was very good, but certainly not the best ever.
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Dec 9, 2008 11:43 AM PST
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This reminds me of the time Keith Hernandez spit on Kramer.
Go Fred Lewis... You're better than the alternative... Yippee...
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Dec 9, 2008 12:06 PM PST
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Or the time they parked in a handicapped parking spot.
Go Fred Lewis... You're better than the alternative... Yippee...
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Dec 9, 2008 12:07 PM PST
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Or the time Kramer was told to “drop dead”.
Go Fred Lewis... You're better than the alternative... Yippee...
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or the time elaine told Jerry’s nana to drop dead
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Or the time Jerry stole a marbled-rye from an old lady.
Go Fred Lewis... You're better than the alternative... Yippee...
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Dec 9, 2008 12:09 PM PST
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“Jimmy’s been watching you, you’re just Jimmy’s type”
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
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Dec 9, 2008 12:55 PM PST
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“She’s got the jimmy legs.”
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
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Dec 10, 2008 5:28 AM PST
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I challenge you to a Feat of Strength!!!
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Dec 9, 2008 12:20 PM PST
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Well, it looks like we’ve already aired the grievances.
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FESTIVUS IS NOT OVER UNTIL YOU PIN ME!
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agreed.
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Dec 8, 2008 5:55 PM PST
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Randy Winn is not part of the team past 2009!
….Or is he…..?
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cue shifty eyes and daunting music
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by UnleashTheGore on
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The Dodgers look like they are setup to run the table with soon-to-be signings ofr Blake, Furcal and possibly Sabathia. This could make the bums the team to beat in 2009. If SF has any interest in Sabathia then step up Neuk.
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Dec 8, 2008 6:05 PM PST
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Either that or Ned Colletti’s mouth just started to assembled the hanging post that could symbolize the 2009 Dodgers’ season.
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Dec 8, 2008 11:03 PM PST
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They would need to resign Ramirez as well.
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Dec 9, 2008 6:58 AM PST
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the thing with moving rowand’s contract is the team that would be most able and interested to take his contract off our hands would be the yankees… they need a cf, they’ve got the cash, and they may still be persuadable that vet savvyness and gritty, team play are the way to go. unfortunately, i can’t see cashman being dumb enough to essentially give us the financial flexibility to sign the guy he really wants, sabathia.
but those considerations aside… a winn, lewis, schierholtz OF plus sabathia in the rotation… yeah, i could get behind that. But every time i think of making some gargantuan offer for c.c. i just can’t help thinking that I’d much rather add $20 mil to it and go after Tex— the one really sure thing on the whole damn market.
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Dec 8, 2008 6:08 PM PST
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Thought the White Sox might be another suitor. Know the Sox have been unloading salaries (Swisher, Vasquez and talking Dye) but they need a CF. Rowand for Konerko? SF get some future salary relief and a bat for middle of line-up.
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Dec 8, 2008 6:32 PM PST
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meh
i find i mostly just enjoy seeing all the yankees fans squirm over the fact that CC hasn’t accepted $140m offer after a month…
by FPTV on
Dec 8, 2008 6:17 PM PST
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Sabathia has supposedly met with the Yankees twice in the last two days. That probably means they’re closing in on him.
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Dec 8, 2008 6:30 PM PST
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or they are offering free donuts.
I know that is the most effective way to get people to attend my meetings at work.
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Dec 8, 2008 6:38 PM PST
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As long as Yankees fans get fat on the free agents and leave the good prospects in the draft pile, that’s all that matters.
I haven’t yet met a person with a Brooklyn or Bostonian accent who could properly explain the strengths and weaknesses of any of their prospects without needing to count fingers or ask what’s below high A-ball.
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Dec 8, 2008 11:11 PM PST
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Uh oh.
…they would need to make other moves before they could sign him.
Like…signing or trading for a 3B to create a better lineup? I just realized…that can be taken in multiple bad ways. Many more bad ways than good ways.
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that was my first thought
SS and CF are the two key defensive positions so maybe keeping Rowand and signing Renteria were good things.
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Dec 8, 2008 9:11 PM PST
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Yep.
Sign players who are on a decline defensively to man the key defensive positions!
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I hear you
but someone has to go out there and those guys aren’t toast yet.
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Dec 9, 2008 5:32 PM PST
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You could say..
Rowand was toast last year. I think most people believe he won’t be that bad next year, but I’d say Winn could easily replace his defense in CF. Burris also could probably replace Renteria’s defense at SS too.
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I don't know
Has seemed like Sabathia’s camp is trying to create a bidding war for him with the west coast teams. The NY Post article from last week read like it was written by his agent, talking about how he wants to play for the Giants but their $100M offer is just a little low, and how the Angels might have cleared their agenda in order to make an offer.
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Dec 8, 2008 6:35 PM PST
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CC wants to be a Dodger
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3755609&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
This makes me sad.
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Dec 8, 2008 7:18 PM PST
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i don't want him anymore
jk… mostly
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Dec 8, 2008 7:18 PM PST
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LIES!!!!
well who do you trust more? Agent Ned or all the people who said he wants to play in SF? But if the Dodgers really wanted him wouldn’t they have shown more interest? And don’t they also need more offense than pitching? Their lineups looking pretty ridiculously weak.
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Dec 8, 2008 7:24 PM PST
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In my eyes, their O and D are ALWAYS ridiculously weak!!
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by Giant among Angels on
Dec 8, 2008 7:37 PM PST
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It’s good Ned opened his mouth, because now the pressure is on him to act.
So does Colletti pony up for C.C., Manny and Furcal? The world will may never know.
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Dec 8, 2008 11:14 PM PST
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Whats worse? Signing Sabathia to a 6 yr/ 120 mil deal? Or having him play for the Dodgers
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Dec 9, 2008 7:28 AM PST
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I think he might actually be trying to come here
if he wanted the biggest amount of money, he would’ve already taken the Yankees offer. I also doubt the Angels will sign him; their offense needs a bit of work. They especially need more offense since Vlad’s getting old. I think they’re gonna push much harder for Tex to come back. The Dodgers, though…
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Dec 8, 2008 7:19 PM PST
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C.C. wants a bidding war.
If we give him Fort Bonds, I want every ligament and cell tested.
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by sectionop92 on
Dec 8, 2008 11:17 PM PST
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I’m beginning to think that maybe CC really does want to be a Giant but that we just don’t have the money for it.
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Dec 8, 2008 7:22 PM PST
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I said it in another thread: playing the Giants against the Dodgers is a good business plan.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:12 PM PST
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I would trade Rowand for nothing, and even cover 4 million of his remaining salary if we had to.
I would imagine someone would express interest in that, but i don’t really know.
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Dec 8, 2008 7:32 PM PST
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another baggs update:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2008/12/08/sabathia-meeting-debatable-trade-talks-slow/
Sabean reiterated that Pablo Sandoval is the third baseman, barring other moves, and second base will be a battle between Kevin Frandsen, Eugenio Velez and Emmanuel Burriss. "We pretty much realized it’s going to get settled in spring training," Sabean said.
Don’t put much stock in those Jorge Cantu/Edwin Encarnacion/Hank Blalock rumors. None are a defensive fit and none are worth the price of left-hander Jonathan Sanchez.
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Dec 8, 2008 7:37 PM PST
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Sabean along with most/many of you here have a lot of confidence in Pablo at third. I want to see him play well at third in spring before i hop onboard.
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by Giant among Angels on
Dec 8, 2008 7:41 PM PST
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huh. It feels like I’m the only one who’s ok with Pablo at third.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:30 PM PST
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I got some flack from about 3-4 people the other day when i was concerned his coverage on bunts…
Here
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by Giant among Angels on
Dec 8, 2008 8:36 PM PST
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I mean
I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!
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Dec 8, 2008 8:40 PM PST
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looks like one guy is arguing with you, one defending.
I recall seeing a lot of people predicting that he’ll be the worst defensive 3B you’ve ever seen.
What does Groupthink think?
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Dec 8, 2008 8:48 PM PST
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I like it....
but the caveat with Pablo is he can still get one day a week at catcher and first, so Frandsen (or ?) can fill in at 3rd two days a week. After last year, Pablo could play center an I’d be happy.
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Dec 9, 2008 5:34 AM PST
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I’m ok with it.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:43 PM PST
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that's good.
We’ll start our own groupthink.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:51 PM PST
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If there is no Beltre to be had, I’d be OK with Kung Fu Panda at 3B. I’d really like to have Beltre though, I just don’t see that happening.
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Dec 8, 2008 10:16 PM PST
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I’m with you guys. He’s relatively agile for a fatty and he has soft hands and a cannon arm.
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
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Dec 9, 2008 9:26 AM PST
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I am very much a non-believer
I don’t even think the Giants should look at him being the everyday 3B as an option
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Dec 8, 2008 8:45 PM PST
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Sabean reiterated that Pablo Sandoval is the third baseman, barring other moves
yeah, that means absolutely nothing. But good to hear that about the 3B rumors.
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Dec 8, 2008 7:58 PM PST
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Didn't Sabean say Manny Burriss was the starting shortstop for 2008 scant months ago?
I remain unconvinced about Pablo’s third base ability.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:28 PM PST
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Also Ortmeier was going to be the starting 1B last season.
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Dec 9, 2008 10:49 AM PST
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What Baggs really means
is that 2B is a battle between Frandsen and Burriss, right?
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Dec 8, 2008 9:07 PM PST
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sabean also said he would look for a MotO bat
brian sabean is a compulsive liar, evidently
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Dec 9, 2008 10:59 AM PST
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Azula Sabean always lies. Azula Sabean always lies.
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Dec 9, 2008 7:58 PM PST
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Aside from the fact that it would be hard to find a team willing to take on Rowand’s absurd contract, I keep wondering this: can anybody remember a case where somebody signed a long term contract and then was traded within about a year or so? I really can’t think of a case of this happening. When you sign a guy to a long term contract it seems like you are stuck with him for at least a while, barring some kind of extenuating circumstance.
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That is a good one. But, this would be very rare right? I think something like that would be very frowned upon and every future free agent the Giants talk to would say “are you really going to honor my contract or are you just going to trade me as soon as your plans change?” If this were to have a chance to happen (and obviously it doesn’t anywhere outside of weblog rosterbatrion immagination land) they better make sure Rowand is extremely on board with it.
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Dec 9, 2008 10:21 AM PST
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I completely agree. The Delgado trade really raised a lot of eyebrows and Delgado himself impugned the integrity of the Marlins’ front office. It’s a very delicate undertaking.
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Dec 9, 2008 1:48 PM PST
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Nah. Where’s the fun in being prudent and respectable?
I thought of this guy. Move Rowand. Give prudent and respectable a chance.

Not really.
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:20 PM PST
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Sanchez not on the block
The Giants aren’t planning to trade lefty Jonathan Sanchez because of the questions surrounding Noah Lowry, another left-hander who is working to come back from nerve surgery on his forearm that cost him the 2008 season and also a procedure on his elbow in October to remove bone spurs.
“It’d be very difficult to trade him, given Lowry’s what-if, and we need another starter on top of that,” Sabean said.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:32 PM PST
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No, he’s just doing some crazy slash. Noah Lowry, Jonathan Sanchez, and another starter on top of that. Sabean’s a freak!
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by howtheyscored on
Dec 8, 2008 10:27 PM PST
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Between Rowand and Sabathia...
…I’d rather have Rowand.
He may be superfluous on a team with Winn, but the Giants are a team with Winn guaranteed, at most, for just one more season. And does anyone want to sign him past that?
And how many players are out there, or within the system, that can replace Rowand’s bat OR defense in center field? (Hint: it’s not Fred Lewis…I wish it was.)
The Giants have at least one pitcher as good as Sabathia, and could very well have another soon.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:32 PM PST
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Replacing Rowand’s defense might not be as hard as you think. I bet Winn could play CF just as well right now. Like this moment. Rowand was lousy defensively last year.
/deer head
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by xanthan on
Dec 8, 2008 8:38 PM PST
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And to clarify, I sort of misread your quote but I think Rowand’s defense is a lot easier to replace than most think.
/deer head
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Dec 8, 2008 8:40 PM PST
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I think..
Brute was referring more to after 2009.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:40 PM PST
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Yeah, see above. I’m hoping Rowand was hurt last year and that’s the reason for his declining defense. I guess we’ll find out this year.
/deer head
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Dec 8, 2008 8:41 PM PST
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A Tall of Two Halves
If the first half Rowand shows up for the entire 2009 season then SF will have “found” at least .5 of a bat. Sandoval performing well is at least another .5 of a bat. Renteria brings another .5 of a bat to the line-up. Now add Teixeira and voia.
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It should be “A Tale of Two Unsustainable Crazy BABIP Months”. From June onward, it was just painful to watch him play.
/deer head
Bay City Ball
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Dec 8, 2008 8:49 PM PST
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Does Velez bring a .000001 bat?
/deer head
Bay City Ball
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But he’s got dem fast legs, so that counts for something.
/deer head
Bay City Ball
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Dec 8, 2008 8:52 PM PST
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Dude hits game winning triples against the Dodgers.
Too bad he fields with his bat.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:53 PM PST
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I was at the Phone Booth for his walk-off infield dribbler against the bums.
Between that and all the physical comedy from earlier in the season, I will now always have a soft spot for Eugenio.
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I think we should just cover him in pine tar. Then, when the ball is hit at him, he can just let it hit his body so it will stick and then he can run over to whatever base for the out.
Sounds unfailable.
/deer head
Bay City Ball
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I think...
..MLB should use Velez’s calfs for a measurement to determine if the bats handles are too thin.
I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!
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Dec 8, 2008 8:57 PM PST
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/runs into stands
/deer head
Bay City Ball
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/bounces off own glove
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Dec 8, 2008 8:56 PM PST
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No need to run
Just get used to the long slow trudge back to the dugout after being picked off.
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The walk of shame
I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!
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Little V has four errors for his DWL team as a 2b
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clank
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No , it's
– clank –
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
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Dec 9, 2008 3:11 AM PST
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Captain Pickoff von Ironglove strikes again!
/twirls chinstache
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Velez brought his glove..
it was just made of iron.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
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HiJack (Jackson B. , aka Vic Jr , turned 14 yesterday. Dad is 87.)

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
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Happy B-Day Jr. Vic
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Dec 9, 2008 6:32 AM PST
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Per the Baggarly article a short while ago,
and others from earlier in the day, the Giants aren’t seriously engaged on CC, and haven’t yet bitten on trading Sanchez for E5, Blalock, or Cantu. Notice that Garrett Atkins’ name didn’t make that list.
Yet Baggarly says that Pablo will be our 3B next year, which could be smoke. It may also mean though that Sabean will leave Vegas empty-handed and return to looking at FA first baseman options, like Pat the Bat or even Dunn. Yet strangely no one has approached the Mariners about Beltre.
My guess is that if you read between the lines of what has been reported so far, we can forget about CC or a big trade this week, and Sabean will go with Ishi/Phelps at 1B.
In other words, we’ll have slightly better relief pitching and offense in 2009, and will win about 5 more games.
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Yeah, I know.
I suspect Sabean’s plan really is:
1. He ain’t trading Sanchez for any of those losers at 3B, and will go with Pablo;
2. He WOULD trade Joseph Martinez and Jack Taschner for Hank Blalock to play 1B next year.
3. He’ll keep Sanchez after all, because of concerns over Lowry.
4. He’d deal Rowand for damn near anything; and
5. If that happens, hello Adam Dunn.
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or Burrell
Dunn doesn’t seem like a very Sabeany player
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Dec 8, 2008 8:58 PM PST
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I think it’s asking a bit much that Sabean just go out and buy 10 wins in one offseason.
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Sure he can. It worked with Vlad.
Oops
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When has Vlad ever been worth 10 wins?
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Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
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Dec 8, 2008 9:22 PM PST
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Although I do agree that was the greatest mistake Sabean avoided this decade!
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Dec 8, 2008 9:26 PM PST
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CC'ya
We lost out on CC when we gambled and lost on Zito. I have mixed feelings anyway. I think he’s going to be like Pedro Martinez for the Mets — a real difference maker initially but injury ridden in the out years.But it would be fun to watch him hit and I love that he’s local. Given our ability to draft pitchers, we shouldn’t look to the free agent market for them. I’m looking for a significant bounceback from Rowand and praying for a midyear trade to get value back. The Yankees really do need him and he’s fit in well there.
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I mostly don’t want CC on the Yankees because I want Yankees’ fans to know what it means to root for a bad team (and third place behind the Rays and Sox doesn’t count). Jeter’s game is already declining, and they can’t count on much from Damon or Matsui. It doesn’t look like Posada can catch any more. They might go into next year with just two proven starting pitchers, one of whom might be due for a sophomore slump (Chamberlain, first full year as ML starter). It could get ugly in the Bronx in a year or two if they don’t sign CC and I’d just love to watch that unfold.
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Dec 9, 2008 7:11 AM PST
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IAWTFC
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I like the thought
and they may not be playoff bound regardless, but they have some crazy amount to spend. I think its something like 80 million – maybe I’m wrong but its big. They’re going to buy some players.
Supposedly Posada’s surgery was effective as well.
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Dec 9, 2008 5:38 PM PST
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Given our ability to draft pitchers, we shouldn’t look to the free agent market for them.
Agreed
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 8:24 AM PST
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although
I wouldn’t mind a cheap 5th pitcher from the FA pool. Hello Big Unit!
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by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 8:24 AM PST
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Yea.
You can’t look to fulfill (really? it’s fulfill? that’s what Firefox is telling me at least..) all of your needs from your farm system. You can’t look at getting 5 starters from your minors, you can’t look at getting 7 relievers from your minors, you can’t look at getting 4-5 OFs from your minors. You can try and get a majority of those positions from your minors if you have skill with that, but that’s about as far as you can go.
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Hello Big Unit!
Too easy.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
Dec 9, 2008 11:35 AM PST
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Bit Unit Bobblehead Day
Greatest promotional event ever?
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by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 11:49 AM PST
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Why trading Rowand doesn't really help in the long term
Other than the fact that we would be selling really, really low on an OK player.
We are only really dumping the diff between Rowand’s and Winn’s salaries THIS year ($4M?). Because we still need a CF in 2010-11. So we have to go into the FA market again.
Maybe we will have something homegrown by 2012.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Dec 9, 2008 8:32 AM PST
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I would tend to agree with you
I realize Rowand is overpaid, but our minor league teams are not spilling forth with outfield goodness. To replace Rowand’s production with a similar player via the FA market would probably require a similar amount of money (albeit maybe not as long a contract), so I would rather wait and see if Rowand can improve and not dump his salary when his value is so low.
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by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 9:46 AM PST
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hmmmm
If Rowand is moved the Giants would not be "burned" by Winn accepting arbitration next year. Or the Giants could even just extend Winn a season.
To me this also assumes Copeland couldn’t be passable with a glove in CF or Timpner is gone.
In general I agree with your points though. If Rowand is not moved by opening day he become too valuable as a pivot as the Giants try Nate and hope for some OF guys to earn their way out of Conn & Fresno. And the Giants can’t afford to just leave him on a door step with out something significant entering the system.
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Dec 9, 2008 12:02 PM PST
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I’m to the point where my first choice is now Burrell at 1B for two years, Big Unit for 1 year and it’s ok if we keep everyone on the roster. (I’d hang onto Winn until the trade deadline and hope Lowry has a strong spring and see if I couldd get anything for him.)
The plan would be low risk and the resulting team would compete in the weak NL west (I don’t see the Dodgers signing CC, Manny and Furcal) and not screw with the long-term plans.
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Dec 9, 2008 10:15 AM PST
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I'm with you
I still think Rowand will bounce back to normal, and that Pablo/Ish/Phelps/Burriss/Renteria/Frandsen will be much better than Castle/Vizquel/Bocock/Velez/Bowker/Aurilia. If Freddie, Winn, & Molina can hit about the same as last year, this team will be in pretty decent shape, assuming the injury bug doesn’t hit.
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by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 10:25 AM PST
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good gawd
I can’t believe that was really our infield for most of the year. I guess you could add Emmanuel (he don’t like to be called Manny, and I don’t like to call him that) to that list, but GadDAMN that is ugtastic.
"I didn't know (after seeing a spectacular over-the-shoulder catch) whether to shit or go blind." - Former Giants Outfielder Harvey Kuenn on Willie Mays
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Dec 9, 2008 12:44 PM PST
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Can you say, " Canidate for Super fund clean up ?"
I thought you could!
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Dec 9, 2008 1:09 PM PST
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I agree..
In that I dont see the Dodgers signing CC. Maybe I am reading too much into this but I find it interesting that two rumors came out of the dodger camp yesterday:
1. Were frustrated with Manny/Boras they havnt returned our calls
2. CC wants to be a Bum
Next thing you now there is this rumor that Boras wants to talk. Looks like Manny can do the math, lord knows Boras can.
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Dec 9, 2008 11:10 AM PST
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I'm no acronym master, but
FWIW, IAWTC, yo!
¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!
by hairball on
Dec 9, 2008 12:13 PM PST
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This is the exact conclusion I’ve come too in the past couple days.
"I didn't know (after seeing a spectacular over-the-shoulder catch) whether to shit or go blind." - Former Giants Outfielder Harvey Kuenn on Willie Mays
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Rotoworld says the Giants will meet with Sabathia this weekend:
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&hl=252767&id=3149
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
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Dec 9, 2008 11:26 AM PST
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If Rotoworld says it . . .
then there’s about a fifty-fifty shot of it being true
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Dec 9, 2008 11:42 AM PST
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It’s actually just them saying Ken Rosenthal said it. Not that that necessarily makes the odds any better
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Dec 9, 2008 11:43 AM PST
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My co-worker went to school with CC and his wife. He still talks to her once in while for get togethers with other friends.
I asked my co-worker this morning if she had a lot of pull of what goes on in the relationship, and he says that she would ideally prefer him close to home, but it’s his decision in the end.
Meaning he’ll probably go where the money is.
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by SoFa King Mike on
Dec 9, 2008 11:48 AM PST
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as Keith Law said
$40 million buys a lot of ice
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Dec 9, 2008 11:52 AM PST
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Is that when his orbit will be the closest to earth?
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Dec 9, 2008 11:45 AM PST
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Something we really do need to worry about . . .

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Dec 9, 2008 12:00 PM PST
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how come nobody commented on my super deluxe hilarious picture of tim orbiting around CC?
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Dec 9, 2008 2:41 PM PST
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I lol’d.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
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Dec 9, 2008 2:42 PM PST
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that’s the kind of star system that produces supernovas, right?
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Giants supremely confident in signing CC
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
by Mike Hawk on
Dec 9, 2008 11:48 AM PST
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beat me to it by about 4 seconds
nice
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
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Dec 9, 2008 11:48 AM PST
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Yeah, my boss is going to be REALLY pleased with me this week…
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
by Mike Hawk on
Dec 9, 2008 11:49 AM PST
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This just in
Boss to be pleased by Mike Hawk.
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Excellent...

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TOTAL INCINERATION!
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
by Mike Hawk on
Dec 9, 2008 12:00 PM PST
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Boss is also named Mike
Mike Hunt
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
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Dec 9, 2008 12:55 PM PST
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Beat me
By 5 Minutes x[
I love it, but “I’m supremely confident” the rumor will get shot down.
Hasheem "The Dream" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
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Dec 9, 2008 11:55 AM PST
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Just because the Giants are confident doesn’t mean that CC will sign with them. It’d be nice to steal him away from the Dodgers though.
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I’m pretty confident Sabean will take a flier on this guy
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
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Dec 9, 2008 12:02 PM PST
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no thank you
move along, nothing to see here.
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by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 12:03 PM PST
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Two words
Due diligence
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
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Dec 9, 2008 12:04 PM PST
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doo doo dilligence.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
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you know Erickson is a Bay Area native right?
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Also, THIS would come along with him
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
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NSFW warning
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Sorry guys, linked to the wrong google image!!!
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
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forgiven
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
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not as far as I’m concerned, you didn’t!
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Yeah, that pic was awful! God awful!
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
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I think Ned's full of crap
I picture CC asking what their offer would be and Ned runs off like a schoolgirl to his media sources…
“He likes me! He really likes me!”
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I’m supremely confident in my ability to please the women. doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen.
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Dec 9, 2008 12:00 PM PST
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But Raptor Jesus is one your side now!
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Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on
Dec 9, 2008 12:23 PM PST
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Wow
The monies must be team friendly for the Giants to be so confident.
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Dec 9, 2008 12:28 PM PST
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either that or Sabean is getitng really good offers for Cain.
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Definitely OK with that if get a young stud
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if he signs, it probably means
any of these
1. the Giants are going to raise payroll over the $90-95 million mark; and/or
2. CC is giving the Giants a significant home-town discount; and/or
3. the deal is heavily backloaded; and/or
4. The Brass learned nothing from the Zito signing.
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Dec 9, 2008 1:06 PM PST
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Dec 9, 2008 12:34 PM PST
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One of the 1st mentions I’ve heard about Ben Sheets (linked
to the Yanks, not the G’s).
Where do y’all see him ending up and for what kinda money?
I guess his injury history is a bit of a concern, but he’s solid
when healthy.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
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Dec 9, 2008 12:41 PM PST
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yargh
CC wants SF and we all know it.
"I didn't know (after seeing a spectacular over-the-shoulder catch) whether to shit or go blind." - Former Giants Outfielder Harvey Kuenn on Willie Mays
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Dec 9, 2008 12:56 PM PST
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Listen to Amber CC. Maiden Lane. Pacific Heights. El Toro.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
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Baggs says the word on the street is CC declined Yankees’ offer
Yes, I’m just pasting whatever shows up on traderumors.
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Dec 9, 2008 1:31 PM PST
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from that article:
It’s possible the Giants could seek to defer a sizable chunk of the contract beyond 2017, when they finish paying off the debt service on AT&T Park.
wow, if you can sign him for 2017 money I am all for it. I’ll be dead by then.
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Baggs Updated: Brewers are emerging as the frontrunner
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
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Dec 9, 2008 2:23 PM PST
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Ask and ye shall receive.
…er, wait…
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Dec 9, 2008 2:52 PM PST
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step 1: sign CC
step 2: trade for Beltre
step 3: trade Benjie
step 4: sign Dunn
step 5: sign RJ
step 6: profit
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wow
thats a lot of money being paid out. The only one I see happening is maybe 1 & 5.
on the other hand, a rotation of CC/Tim/Cain/Johnson/Zito blows my mind
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Dec 9, 2008 1:41 PM PST
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If only there were a way to replace Zito with Sanchez…
by Natto on
Dec 9, 2008 1:46 PM PST
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Zito for Juan Gonzalez?
Is that guy still around? Some team must still be on the hook for him.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 1:48 PM PST
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unless the interest in dunn steps up significantly, i think theres a chance someone will get him for like 3 yrs 36mm, in which case plzplzpzplzplzplzplzplz to be signing him.
by TimLincecumIsGod on
Dec 9, 2008 2:36 PM PST
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and play him at 1B?
Unless Beltre is signed, an infield of Dunn, Frandsen, Renteria, & Pablo will be epically bad.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 2:45 PM PST
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hence trading for beltre is 2 steps before signing dunn
by TimLincecumIsGod on
Dec 9, 2008 3:51 PM PST
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what do you propose we trade for Beltre?
I’m thinking it will take more than Agent Jack, or something that would be acceptable to most around here.
Plus, Sabean has already said he’s not looking for any rent-a-players.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 3:57 PM PST
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rotation
cc
tim
cain
ugly
zito
…damn.
by Viliphied on
Dec 9, 2008 1:41 PM PST
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Suck on that Cubbies
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by SoFa King Mike on
Dec 9, 2008 1:50 PM PST
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i'm in.
and I’d love to see Sanchez pitch so ridiculously well that they HAVE to bump Zito out of the rotation. That or see Bumgarner skyrocket through the farm a la Lincecum….either way, end result is the same.
by ExcuseMeSwing on
Dec 9, 2008 1:50 PM PST
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Grasshopper, please be paient with Bumgarner.
by wilriv21 on
Dec 9, 2008 1:52 PM PST
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i’m just saying, i’d love to see him force the organization’s hand the way Tim did. If madison’s dominating triple AAA talent it’s nothing but gravy..and even if he did I’m also not opposed to letting him stay in Fresno.
it’s just so easy to get greedy looking at the rotation and thinking “my god, there are so many better in-house options than Zito”
but ultimately, i do wish Barry future success…i’m just tempering my expectations.
by ExcuseMeSwing on
Dec 9, 2008 1:57 PM PST
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i do think Zito improves from last year
however, if he continues to decline, it’s time to cut and run.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on
Dec 9, 2008 1:59 PM PST
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cut his wrists?
harsh.
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by SoFa King Mike on
Dec 9, 2008 2:00 PM PST
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sure
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by SoFa King Mike on
Dec 9, 2008 2:09 PM PST
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Just throw some Cy Youngs out there?
8 of them, to be exact. 9 when Matt wins one next year.
by jctGamer on
Dec 9, 2008 2:07 PM PST
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Matt will only win if CC is hitting behind him at cleanup.
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by SoFa King Mike on
Dec 9, 2008 2:10 PM PST
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Puppy for Matt!
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on
Dec 9, 2008 2:11 PM PST
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He’ll name his Young
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by SoFa King Mike on
Dec 9, 2008 2:12 PM PST
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And they’ll fetch the bats from home plate awww
by shanghaijim on
Dec 9, 2008 8:09 PM PST
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Man, I am so epically :DDDDDDDD: about CC.
I don’t know what to think
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on
Dec 9, 2008 2:11 PM PST
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That like..
Blew my…
whoah.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on
Dec 9, 2008 8:27 PM PST
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Blew your what!? I have to know if I need to delete your comment for being inappropriate or not!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Dec 9, 2008 8:31 PM PST
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HARRASSMENT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on
Dec 9, 2008 8:41 PM PST
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I always knew he was a pervert hiding behind the sweet, innocent face of a walrus.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Dec 9, 2008 9:00 PM PST
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Ken Rosenthal blogging:
With the Boston Red Sox expected to trade Mike Lowell if they sign first baseman Mark Teixeira (Kevin Youkilis would move from first to third), the San Francisco Giants have emerged as an option, since they need a third baseman. Lowell is coming off hip surgery, so teams might want to see him play in spring training before acquiring him. The Giants tentatively plan to play Pablo Sandoval at third, but they have been linked to a variety of third basemen. —Ed Price
by wilriv21 on
Dec 9, 2008 2:21 PM PST
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Sounds like the Joe Crede sitchu last year…
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
by Mike Hawk on
Dec 9, 2008 2:25 PM PST
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it costs way too much to sign CC
signing CC is still not a good idea for the Giants unless they’re willing to seriously raise payroll.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on
Dec 9, 2008 2:27 PM PST
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I feel the same way.
Then again, CC Sabathia is a fucking awesome pitcher…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on
Dec 9, 2008 2:28 PM PST
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this is a true statement. But we owe Zito $94M over the next 5 years, so signing CC to a long term deal without raising payroll may not be the most prudent business decision.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on
Dec 9, 2008 2:44 PM PST
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Nuke is loaded. Giants are rolling in Comcast dollars.
My tickets will be CHEAPER next year.
I say go for it.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on
Dec 9, 2008 2:55 PM PST
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hey, if they got the money, then by all means, they should spend some of it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on
Dec 9, 2008 2:57 PM PST
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If that land deal goes through, that’s a lot more revenue that can be used.
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by SoFa King Mike on
Dec 9, 2008 3:08 PM PST
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(semi) OT
I liked the letter to the editor in the SF Chron Sunday suggesting that Donald and Doris Fisher’s (he the GAP founder) proposed Art museum would be perfect for the Lot A land development (rather than the Presidio).
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on
Dec 9, 2008 3:13 PM PST
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That is the GOOD news. The BAD news is the price for garlic fries will double.
by wilriv21 on
Dec 9, 2008 3:23 PM PST
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