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I wouldn't mind Blalock as a one year stop gap...but think that we need to give Pablo a shot at the starting job this spring...anyone know what kind of prospects the Rangers may include to sweeten up that deal?

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by wilriv21 on Dec 7, 2008 1:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You are a gentleman and a scholar

Thank you sir.

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow... they're loaded

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by shikantaza on Dec 7, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hank the Tank!

I was thinking about this guy the other day. Blalock being a CA kid from the San Diego area would be a nice fit. Being a lefty hitter with signs of some decent pop would be welcomed at third base. The part that scares me however is the fact that he has only played 123 games the past 2 years due to injuries. between 03 -06 he had very impressive numbers.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2008 1:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I might do a Blalock, Diamond and Hunter / N. Ramirez for Sanchez

Man do they have a lot of catching talent on that club.

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 1:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they can use all those C’s to their advantage for sure.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2008 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Rangers have a really nice farm system at the moment.

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by jponry on Dec 7, 2008 1:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

Cain for the OK City Red Hawks and the Frisco Roughriders

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Cain for Chris Davis

with matching parts included? This only after obtaining another top of the rotation starting pitcher – Sabathia, Peavy, Johnson, etc

by wilriv21 on Dec 7, 2008 1:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Matt Cain for Chris Davis +

yes please.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

plz plz plz

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Dec 7, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Where were you guys when I brought this idea up during the season and most people panned it?

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by thehavenot on Dec 7, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You have no juice, Bub

Probably out drinking and chasing skirt.

by wilriv21 on Dec 7, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At the time..

I was still with someone, but I don’t trust the water.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2008 6:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ive supported this idea for a long time. I picked Davis as my white whale in that fanpost

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Dec 7, 2008 7:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good!

More rosterbating! I was getting a little backed up here.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2008 1:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We are always involved wtith Blalock trade rumors..

and nothing will every get done.

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by Azmanz on Dec 7, 2008 1:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

kvdp12 writes..

It mentions how Texas is interested in Cain (shocker), but how theyll focus on Sanchez, but how "Blalock still doesn’t seem like enough " for him.

I think I remember us trading for Blalock being discussed in here a while back. A lefty power hitting third basemen sounds great, but besides how injury prone he is, some of his hitting stats away from Arlington were pretty revealing of how he would do in AT&T.

Does anybody have those stats?

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by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

FanGraph of blalocks home away splits

And some from baseball reference

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Blalock for Bocock?

Go Fred Lewis... You're better than the alternative... Yippee...

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 7, 2008 2:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Bolock?

or Blacock?

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by baetown415 on Dec 7, 2008 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With Jack Blackcock?

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Dec 7, 2008 7:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Couple other tidbits from MLBTR

"The Rockies prefer to keep Garrett Atkins, but the Twins, Dodgers, Giants, and Phillies are all interested. Chase Utley has been a long-time supporter of bringing his former UCLA teammate to the Phils for a reunion.

The Marlins are getting several inquiries on Jorge Cantu and Dan Uggla. They don’t plan to trade either, though if the Giants were to offer Jonathan Sanchez for Cantu, the Marlins would jump at the chance."

Would mind getting Atkins if the price is right, but I still think Pablo is the way to go.

As for Cantu? No can do.

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

 I agree that GA would be good for the corner for the right price, and I am still not sold on Pablo at third. I feel much more comfortable with Pablo at first. Give Pablo a full year at first then maybe venture him to third

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2008 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am with ya..

I think its better to focus on a 3B in a trade and play pablo at 1st. Hell get bats, contribute, start a ton and perform better with the glove.

by uber on Dec 7, 2008 5:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what do you think it'd take to get Uggla?

You think something based on Sanchez could pull him in?

by boonitez on Dec 7, 2008 4:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for Blalock

in exchange for Lowry and happy meal.

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by The Thrill on Dec 7, 2008 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Giants must be in love with every bad fielding third basemen out there.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 7, 2008 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Elaborate on how Blalock is a “bad” fielding third baseman

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2008 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he’s had a lot of shoulder problems that limits his ability to throw. That’s why the Rangers made him a DH/1B after he came back last year and moved Chris Davis to 3b, where’s not that great a fielder either.

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by Nosetackle Supreme on Dec 7, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That or

Stupid fansites and blogs are just making assumptions that the Giants are interested because they need a 3rd baseman.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 7, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the rangers are exactly the kind of team we should be looking to deal our pitching to, if we decide to do that, because they’ve got a great farm system and seem to really lack arms. So if we were going to trade sanchez, I’d almost rather we just did it for a package of prospects rather than blalock+prospect.

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by Smoke on the Water on Dec 7, 2008 2:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yes but how will prospects help Sabean get his 2010 option picked up?

by Cainer on Dec 7, 2008 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

1 year of Blalock

He’s a free agent after 2009. Why trade a good young pitcher for 1 year of an injury prone 1b/DH? It just isn’t they type of deal that will help this team rebuild for the future. Sanchez for some 2 minor league hitters would be ideal.

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by Nosetackle Supreme on Dec 7, 2008 2:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Blalock makes 6.5 million dollars. You’re doing the Rangers a favor if you trade for him. Therefore, if you want him you give up nothing for him in terms of talent. There is no way you trade Jonathan Sanchez for Blalock. I’d give them Matt Palmer and Ivan Ochoa.

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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Rangers are basically looking this week

for other teams to help them take Blalock’s salary off their hands, plain and simple. They have no intention of listening to offers for Davis unless Sabean pushes away from the bong long enough to mumble “Cain”.

The Rangers want ML-ready pitching, but I sure as hell am not interested in giving them Sanchez for a salary dump. Plus, wouldn’t Blalock get eaten alive at Mays Field? If they’d accept Joe Martinez, then maybe, but Martinez could also be a #5 tryout for us this year as well. I’d rather hold Sanchez to see if we could put a package together to get Beltre. But aside from that, I’m not really interested in sending him away for one-year rentals or other teams’ defensive liabilities (Cantu or E5).

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by Buck Henry on Dec 7, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

caincecum...

I’m iffy on this deal for a variety of reasons. A Blalock has been injured off and on the past two seasons and is well known for his terrible home/road splits. Last year he had a .343 avg and a 1.025 ops at home and hit .249 with a .720 ops on the road. While it’s fairly common to perform better at home, it’s uncommon to see splits such as Blalock’s. Also remember The Ballpark in Arlington is the American Leagues version of Coors Field. So there would be an expected drop-off anyway. At the same token I think it would be very optimistic to even expect Blalock to put up a .300/.350/470 line at home which would be a .820 ops. Which would still be about 200 points below his ops last year. If the other piece we got was a young Rangers pitcher like Neil Ramirez or Micheal Main I would warm up to the deal but it’s unlikely the Rangers would sense the Sanchez and Blalock’s values aren’t that far apart. What are your thoughts?

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by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2008 2:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez for Blalock is a bad move.

We don’t need another lefthanded bat in this park, especially one that hasn’t logged a full season recently. He probably doesn’t have the arm for 3B anymore anyway, and one season of him to play 1B isn’t worth Sanchez’s upside.

Garret Atkins can’t hit away from Denver, and Cantu is a butcher in the field who also isn’t worth Sanchez. E5 is sliding downhill defensively himself, so unless you find a way to snag Beltre or even Josh Fields from the White Sox, giving up Sanchez is too steep.

And before anyone thinks about sending Cain away for Davis, does anyone know if Davis is good defensively?

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by Buck Henry on Dec 7, 2008 3:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Blalock has always been a terrible hitter outside of Arlington. We don’t want him, even if we don’t give up much in return.

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by jcb9 on Dec 7, 2008 3:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rotoworld's take

“A utilityman like Eugenio Velez or lefty reliever Jack Taschner and a prospect would be a fair return.”

MUCH better…Velez for Blalock, DADDY LIKEY

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’d do the shit out of that, as long as the prospect wasn’t one of our top ones.

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by jponry on Dec 7, 2008 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bye Velez.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2008 6:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice knowing you FAILez

/ ha

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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2008 9:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what if

we did Sanchez/2 good pitching prospects that aren’t MadBum or Alderson for Blalock/Smoak or Blalock/Beltre/Max Ramirez? I’d be fine with trading Sanchez for one year of Blalock as long as we got one or two good prospects with him.

by boonitez on Dec 7, 2008 4:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Like maybe Tanner, Pucetas and Sanchez for Blalock, Smoak and Font?

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 4:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that'd be great for us

but if Smoak is really the next Mark Teixeira, then I guess we wouldn’t be giving up nearly enough.

by boonitez on Dec 7, 2008 4:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Smoak can’t be traded until June.

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by Smoke on the Water on Dec 7, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, at least give me time to rosterbate about an Smoak infield!

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 5:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He could be a PTBNL

But I think you have to name the player within six months, so the trade would have to come in January.

by kaliber on Dec 7, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Taschner for Blalock seems fair.

Or how bout a cup of Lincecum’s piss for Blalock? He’s a Cy Young winner that’s got to be worth something to the Rangers. And if they want to throw in Neftali Feliz I’d be ok with that.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 7, 2008 4:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

half cup, to be fair

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by baetown415 on Dec 7, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

neftali feliz

just sounds too close to a combination of Neifi Perez and Pedro Feliz…and i don’t care what his numbers are, i want no part of that.

ironically, if Feliz were a FA this year I bet Sabean would be looking into acquiring him (“WS winner, good D, pop, and now getting into his veteran-savvy/gamer years…sounds like 4/$42mil to me!!”)

by ExcuseMeSwing on Dec 7, 2008 6:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine Feliz at bat…Imagine a slider low and away… We all know what the result will be… I cant take any more of Feliz at the plate

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2008 6:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I miss Feliz.

From what we were stuck with last year.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2008 6:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dont miss him, but I agree he was better than what we had last year.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2008 6:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

can't say i miss him flailing either...

but to be fair, i can honestly say i would’ve appreciated him a hell of a lot more if this team never expected him to carry the offense at times. seeing his name in the cleanup spot or even 5th was teh suck.

by ExcuseMeSwing on Dec 7, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you. Though I look at it like the scouting report for him will always be the same for him regardless of what spot in the order he hits in. A few times he showed signs of inside-out potential or going with the away pitch but that soon fizzled away.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2008 9:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

MLBTR Breaking Noose

According to Hal McCoy of the Dayton Daily News, a Major League source told him a Homer Bailey for Jermaine Dye trade “is done and will be announced this week.”

Oh well, I think Bailey has more in his name than his talent. At least Sabean can’t trade for Dye now!

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Dec 7, 2008 5:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

can we please find some way to get a hold of chris davis

sanchez + (NOT avil, buster, madbum, alderson) for chris davis. The guy is 22 with great upside, adds power, fills a giant hole we have

this is all i want for christmas is a trade like that

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by CPGiant756 on Dec 7, 2008 5:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

why does everyone want to think the Rangers want to trade Chris Davis?

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by jponry on Dec 7, 2008 5:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i duno if they do

i just really want the giants to pry him off

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by CPGiant756 on Dec 7, 2008 6:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would think that we could get Davis without giving up Cain...

Unless the Rangers value their players as Sabean values some of ours.

by DuikeBuike on Dec 7, 2008 6:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Davis

Has been declared untouchable earlier this offseason like Cain was. I’m pretty sure it would take Cain+ to get him, he’s very highly valued by Texas (as he rightfully should be, a 22 year old putting up those numbers in the minors and holding his own in the majors like he did last year is something I’d put a pretty high value on). It would be nice to have Chris Davis, but we’d pay a king’s ransom

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by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 7, 2008 8:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno. I'm off Davis now.

I asked for him in a trade in Baseball Mogul and the Rangers only asked back Tyler Walker, Rajai Davis, and Waldis Joaquin from me.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2008 8:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

you sure you weren’t trying to acquire Russ Davis?

by ExcuseMeSwing on Dec 7, 2008 8:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds more like Ann B. Davis. Ya know, Alice from “The Brady Bunch”.

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by Flapjacks McGurty on Dec 7, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

She has a star on the Walk of Fame on Hollywood Blvd.

Probably has something to do with the fact stars are bought and not awarded, but still.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Dec 8, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Blalock falls directly in the “i’ll take a gamble on him if he’s free but i certainly wouldn’t give up anything to get him” category.

With regards to Chris Davis i’m not sure i really see a fit. I don’t think Texas would trade him unless they got Cain back as Sanchez wouldn’t be enough, and their farm is absolutely loaded, so i wouldn’t think they’d be interested in trading him for prospects. I wouldn’t trade Cain for just him, and i’m not sure they’d throw in much value on top of it. If they were to add some good prospect as well, then it’d be more interesting.

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