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Is it common for high schoolers to commit to a college but still enter their name in the draft? I hope so, because I would love the Giants to pick him up with their #6 pick; at least one mock draft I've seen has that happening. I'd also love to get either Ackley or Green, but I don't think they'll fall to 6.

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I think most high school players do this – if nothing else, it gives leverage in contract negotiations. I could be wrong, though.

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by jcb9 on Dec 5, 2008 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

every H.S. player committs to a college

You have to have a college commitment to strengthened your negotiating position in the draft. The big news on this is that all signs seem to point to the fact that Tate is ready to give up football (although again he will use that improve his negotiating position). If he was serious about football I think he would have picked a school with a better football program, like maybe his dad’s alma mater which also has a decent baseball program.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 5, 2008 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

It’s not the fact that Tate is committing to NC, this is what troubles me:

Tate initially had decided to give up football for his senior season to concentrate on baseball but changed his mind one game into the high school season and rejoined the Cartersville program.

I’d like to see him concentrate on Baseball if we happen to draft him.

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by JT Jordan on Dec 5, 2008 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, don’t worry. If he gets picked 6th overall and given a signing bonus in the $4 million neighborhood, you will never see him playing college football.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 5, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Alderson committed to Oregon State and MadBum committed to North Carolina prior to the draft.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 5, 2008 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

Oh also Noonan commited to Clemson.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 5, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinda seems weird that a San Diego kid would go to South Carolina for school.

Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.

by SF Pete on Dec 5, 2008 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s easy to commit to a school far far away when you have no intention of every actually attending it

by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 5, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m looking at U of South Carolina for grad school. I’ve heard that Columbia is actually a pretty cool city.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 5, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Well you’re definitely weird ;-)

Seriously though, I certainly think there’s value in exploring different parts of the country and world. It just doesn’t seem like you hear about recruits doing it that often. I wonder what set Clemson apart from schools like USC, San Diego St., Arizona St. etc.

Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.

by SF Pete on Dec 5, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t say. All those colleges have strong baseball programs and nice locations. I’ll tell you what. If Noonan ends up in San Jose next year, I’ll push to interview him. The question of his college committment will be on the docket.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 5, 2008 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Play JUCO Ball.

If a player signs with a 4 year D-I school, he must wait until after their junior season to re-enter the draft (i.e. Tulowitzki, Jer. Weaver) which also increases the chances of injury that could definitely decrease their value come upcoming eligible draft. THe best thing to do is play JUCO ball and wait till your stocks are the highest

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2008 9:27 PM PST reply actions  

again, he has no plans of attending UNC. Every High School player commits to a college to improve their negotiating position in the draft and as a backup plan in case something goes wrong. He’s going to go in the top 10- in the draft, get a multi-million dollar signing bonus and never go to college

by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 6, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

GPA

Does not apply to Tate, just more comments. – If a Student Athlete has barely passing marks then he cannot use that for leverage because he does not have the grades to be accepted no matter what strings the D-I coach is willing to pull. I had a teammate in HS who was the CIF section player of the year and (if he had the grades) could have attended most competitive D-I schools, but could not because of his grades. So he was drafted in the late teen rounds, didnt sign, played 2 yrs of JUCO, lost a step, still didnt have the grades to transfer to a D-I, signed in the late 30’s round, lost out of 1000’s of $ from his first initial offer out of HS. So he was forced to sign, although it was for the Royals which is actually a pretty good team to play for in the minors because of all the MLB debuts every year. Didnt play very well, and bounced around from org to org and is now out of baseball.
Moral of the story…….Get Good Grades!

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2008 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He probly did it for two reasons

One, to use it as leverage in contract negotiations. And two, to use as a fallback plan incase he doesn’t get drafted as high as he wants to or he doesn’t get the contract bonus he was hoping for. I doubt he actually intends to go there.

by boonitez on Dec 6, 2008 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

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