C.C. Sabathia to take a hometown discount?
by Grant on Dec 4, 2008 11:21 AM PST
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Maybe, according to the New York Daily News.
No editorial for this one. Just a poll.
Thus endeth the rumor/transaction posts for today. There are three more below this one. SHOULD the Giants sign Pat Burrell? WOULD Sabean consider trading for Jorge Cantu? DID the Giants make a mistake with Edgar Renteria? THERE ARE ANSWERS BELOW! IT'S A SUPER-RUMOR-BLOWOUT BLOGFEST! EVERYTHING MUST GO!
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Voted for 8 years
I don’t think we should sign him for more than 5 years, if it can be helped, but the idea of a secret underground lair beneath the Bell is really freakin’ cool!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 4, 2008 11:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I voted 6, 120 but thought the lair was an intriguing idea
by Mrbasepaul on Dec 4, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t keep up with this rumor mill, where is the off switch? Can’t we save some of this for a slow week? Not complaining, but this hot stove league is really cooking around these parts.
by out machine on Dec 4, 2008 11:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I thought I’d try this out. I’ve never seen the Giants with so many hands in the pot, and I’m getting a lot of traffic from people who want to read what we all think. Put the big things up on the main page a couple of days before the Winter Meetings, and resume normal operations right after — that’s my plan.
If it’s too much, let me know, and I’ll know better for next year.
by Grant on Dec 4, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's looking like
the best offseason day on MCC ever
"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t go that far. They want to skim the headlines for amusing rage.
by Grant on Dec 4, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If by read you mean look at the pictures, yes.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 4, 2008 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s Bengie Molina with a catcher’s mitt on his head! Hilarious!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Dec 4, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am loving it. Much easier to keep everything straight on the main page.
by out machine on Dec 4, 2008 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but they could have been fan shots!
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by Goofus on Dec 4, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sssshhhhhhh. Don't let the secret out.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Dec 4, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh so many repetitive fan shots! Alas.
by out machine on Dec 4, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy
I took my phd exam the last two days so have been out of the loop, come back here and it’s like FA/rumor explosion! Howry signed! Renteria signed! Cantu playing 3rd and CC has an underground lair at Pac Bell and Burrell plays 3rd 1st OF…wtf is going on here
by Mrbasepaul on Dec 4, 2008 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Simple.
The Federal Reserve’s patent application for printing free money hasn’t gone through.
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Dec 4, 2008 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Burrell is playing 1st/3rd/OF
I’d figure that with the economy as it is, players are getting laid off too and those that remain are being asked to pick up the slack. Fred Lewis and TI are out of a job, we’re not signing a 3rd baseman, and Patt Burrell is getting signed to play all three positions. We’re now fielding a 7 man team, and the roster will be cut to 15-20 players.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 5, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Price You Pay For Not Listening
If Sabes would have taken the advice of a close associate we would have picked CC instead of Torcato
by rellubcat on Dec 4, 2008 11:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and there is an underground lair at the yard.
I live there.
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lars the Stationary
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 4, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Scented stationary with kitties and a matching pen and pencil set!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s actually stationery.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably unused, so stationary stationery.
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And if Lars is at Leavenworth and making candy...
…it’s penitentiary confectionary stationary stationery.
…which neither I nor anyone else gets…
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Dec 4, 2008 10:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And if he's like me, he's
sedentary penitentiary ….
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Dec 5, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
5 years/120M
I don’t really think the team can afford CC and Zito, but if we’d get CC, I’d prefer to sign him to a shorter term contract, even if it costs more per year.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 11:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
This was pretty much my rationale as well.
by rotorueter on Dec 4, 2008 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
win
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
What is the advantage to this? If it’s 120m for 5 years or 120m for 6?
Id rather take the 6 year deal on the chance that he’s still any good in that 6th year. If not, you can just release him and you are no worse off than you were with the 5 year deal.
I fail to see the logic in less years for the same $$ from a teams perspective.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’ve never understood that bias. If you get lucky and he’s still a good pitcher after five years, you come out way ahead with the longer contract for less per year.
by Evan on Dec 4, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you can add an 6th year option to deal with that.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If 5/120 were an option, 6/120 wouldn’t be. It’s more like 5/120 vs. 6/140.
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by marcello on Dec 4, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A starting Picher at selling his age 33 (and on) season will probably be a lot more attractive to a Starting pitcher selling his age 34 (and on) season. This is something to think about if said starter has managed to stay in the top 20% of starter his previous 2 seasons (compensated drafted picks) yet does not fit your plans at the end of the contract.
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by daveinexile on Dec 4, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Zito situation dominates my thinking on this. I’d much rather have Zito on a 5 year/$126M deal than 7/$126M deal. It’s just too long to carry a shitty pitcher. we’d only have 3 more years to go. The Giants may be ready to compete in 2012, but will still have to pay Zito $19M (and $20M in 2013) that could be used to add puzzle pieces or two, or re-sign Matt Cain or extend Lincecum.
Now, I don’t think CC will turn into Zito, but he is a lot more injury prone, has been worked hard the last couple of years and is in what appears to be horrendous physical shape. So, the question is “do you want to be stuck with a bad contract for longer or shorter?” I say shorter.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But financially, that makes no sense
Sign him for a 7 year 126 year deal and if you think he sucks after 5 years, release him.
It costs you the same, you lose nothing.
But if he doesn’t suck, you get 2 more years of his service.
And we wonder why this country is in a financial crisis ;)
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my flawless logic
its the difference between paying for a useful player or a non-useful one. It may cost the same dollars-wise over the long run, but why have a salary weighing you down for 2 extra years that could be used for players that will help you win. The point is to pay for the useful years and not beyond.
If Zito’s contract came off the books in 2011, we could sign Matt Cain to an extension, but since there’s a $39M obligation remaining to Zito in 2012 & 2013, so we probably won’t be able to do that. Having saved a few million over the course of the previous 5 years isn’t going to change that situation.
And if Zito were any good, I wouldn’t be making this point, but it’s about limited risk. I’d rather have an expensive pitcher who sucks for 5 years rather than 7. if it costs a few extra million per year, than so be it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry - but that is just dumb.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
apology accepted.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, there’s no reason to go all Jcb9 on him.
by rotorueter on Dec 4, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, don’t understand the logic. Just dump his ass if he sucks after 5 years
by Mrbasepaul on Dec 4, 2008 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy god
that’s a lot of money for 2 pitchers…didn’t we just learn that throwing 2.2 billion at a pitcher isn’t a good idea? Obviously CC is no Zito, but he also threw like 25 CGs and 1000 innings the last 2 years.
Forgive me if I think it’s a bad idea.
by bondslegend on Dec 4, 2008 12:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The thing is
Sabathia is a lot better than Zito.
I’m not sure it’s a good idea myself, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t tempted.
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by jcb9 on Dec 4, 2008 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is much how I feel.
If Sabathia becomes an albatross, it will be from injury, my only concern, not because he stinks.
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by marklar on Dec 4, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Neukom is playing with Microsoft money, so I say we can offer CC 6 years/ 3.2 bazillion dollars. And when Timmy’s deal nears, Gates will release Vista 2.2, or some such nonsense.
by biff pocoroba on Dec 4, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I said not with Zito
but I’d take the 5 or 6 year deal I guess. I just worry about the rest of the roster.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Dec 4, 2008 12:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would actually argue
That IF the team goes after CC, they had probably better go all in $$ wise after Burrell as well.
Typically with contracts like this you are really buying the first couple of good years and taking a gamble on the rest. With that in mind, you would want those good years to be your best shot at making an impact.
CC + Burrell on this team would make it the instant favorite to win the NL west, and frankly I think that a rotation of Tim, CC, Cain, Sanchez would give you a very reasonable chance in ANY playoff series.
With Winn, Molina, Roberts, etc coming off the books next year and the hope that those current salaried positions could be filled by homegrown replacements (Nate, Pablo, etc) even w/ CC @ ~ 20m + Burrell around 12 the Salary would not be out of line.
Going for CC indicates going all in, and frankly it might not be a bad idea, especially given the somewhat soft market for FA’s this season thusfar.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 12:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great looking 4 man roation. But who is going to cacth & throw the ball?
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by daveinexile on Dec 4, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Once the ball is hit I mean.
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Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Dec 4, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie Molina
followed by Puster Bosey.
by Mrbasepaul on Dec 4, 2008 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Proudly wears his "I am not that Crazy" badge.
If anyone voted anything besides #1 or #5 they need to be marked and tagged so we can test the Kool-Aid bowl(s) they are drinking out of.
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Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Dec 4, 2008 12:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Here is an article from Stark also
Basically saying that the Giants make sense, but isn’t sure what to think of it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3742826&name=stark_jayson
Playoffs!!??
by PAWarrior on Dec 4, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's going to happen.
I’ll put in @ 5/120.
by @ the river on Dec 4, 2008 12:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Question:
If we sign CC, does his and Zito’s contracts pretty much rule out keeping Cain beyond his current deal or Lincecum beyond his arb years?
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by Goofus on Dec 4, 2008 12:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No, I do not think so.
Especially if payroll expands beyond the 90m arbitrary limit many of us have assumed.
GRM actually did a good breakdown of this.
If CC signs here and actually plays well, it will be fine. What we cannot afford is CC to sign and then become an albatross. A team cannot afford two of those.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
slightly O.T.
I am crazy enough to risk 3yr 90M total or 2 yr in the lower 60’s M. Mainly if he turns into Albatross II I think the team might be able to survive that. If he keeps on being CC then you offer worst case is you offer Arbitration.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Dec 4, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SF needs to sign Lincycum to a Pedroia/Longoria type deal
by wilriv21 on Dec 4, 2008 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to Tim.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he's "open" to an extension
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Preferably Longoria style, but Pedroia would be fantastic as well.
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by marcello on Dec 4, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think so
If CC is hear, Cain is gone. We will get Prince or something like Prince for him.
by @ the river on Dec 4, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1 You better get more then Fielder for him. Yes he swings a mean stick but this still an N.L. team. That means no D.H. to hide a1 dimensional player in. And because you can’t hide the flawed dimensions you going to get burned by those lesser dimensions.
2) If your Gm is not named Riccaddi or Sabean finding a productive first base man is not that tough. Even if you Gm is named either of those 2 that is still too high of a premium to pay when you look at position scarcity.
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Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Dec 4, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cain becomes a free agent in 2012, meaning we’d have to pay him a FA contract for 2 years that Zito and CC are on the books (Plus some 2 of Timmy’s arb years.) If he’s as good as we all hope and want him to be, he’ll cost over $10M per season.
Lincecum’s arb years are from 2011-2013 (and probably be in the 8 figure range), so he’d become a free agent (assuming we keep him all those years, thru a buy out or arbitration) at the same time as Zito. Obviously, if we could extend Timmy beyond that before that point, it would be better.
We can buy Zito’s 2014 season out for $3,000,000.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the reason you would sign/buy a player out of his arbitration years is to:
- player receives security
- team buys out at least one free agent year
by wilriv21 on Dec 4, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
can we buy out zito’s contract now? please
by Mrbasepaul on Dec 4, 2008 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I personally enjoyed reading the banter between the users in the comment section.
nooger Dec 4, 2008 11:33:09 AM
john the dumbo——I take great comfort in knowing that anything you write is silly, non-sensical, childish, ill-advised, shallow, biased, ridiculous, and indicative of your entire existence—pathetic. Now go get your shoe shine box.
How come we don’t talk to each other like that. Oh yeah, we ain’t Yankee fans.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Dec 4, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We can be pretty mean to each other at times, but we’re at least clever about it.
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by jcb9 on Dec 4, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i find this comment stupid, obnoxious, and absurd, and goes well with your god hating, anti american, poo poo head character.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Dec 4, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speak for myself, buddy
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Dec 4, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you wilL!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How come we don’t talk to each other like that.
eh, way too much typing.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, lists are only good in threes.
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by marcello on Dec 4, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WEST COAST FANS ARE NOT PASSIONATE
by satyricrash on Dec 4, 2008 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because none of us even own a shoe shine box.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we can be kinda bitchy
suggest trading Matt Cain, make a fanpost instead of a fanshot, or confuse its with it’s, you’ll see.
by oldjacket on Dec 4, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
looking at pictures
this one site does it all. prospect news; kittens; dinosaurs; books and movies; all it needs is more Elisha Cuthbert like other sports sites have.
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by foothillsfan on Dec 4, 2008 1:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s still hard to believe that Steve Avery said those horrible words. He actually seemed like a pretty nice kid from his days with the Braves.
by biff pocoroba on Dec 4, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That particular braves team is Godlike in MY mind.
WHAT words?
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Dec 4, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno.
Take the money you were gonna use to sign him and sign Lincecum to an extension, that’s my theory…
by ololo3 on Dec 4, 2008 2:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
There is a probem with that theory
Lincecum doesn’t want to sign an extension.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he would if it was CC Sabathia money.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Incorrect
Lincecum’s agent recently said that he was amenable to an extension now.
The Cy Young upped the ante on what they can get in arbitration, meaning that an extension, even when saving the team money in the long term, is too much money for the player to turn down in case he should come down with an injury or poor performance.
It will probably be in the $30-40M range, depending on how many years of his free agency he is willing to forgo, based on what Pedroia signed, and what Ryan Howard got in his arbitration hearing. That’s too much money to pass up now and risk injury or otherwise.
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"Woo hoo" - Tim "The Kid" Lincecum
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Dec 4, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's my understanding
That the claims of “being open to an extension” are greatly exaggerated.
Sure, he’s open to something – but as of yet there is no evidence to suggest he is actively engaging the Giants in talks.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't vote
I think you have to beat out Zito’s contract, so 6 years at $130M is probably what it would take.
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"I'm really proud to be on this team." - Nate Schierholtz
"Woo hoo" - Tim "The Kid" Lincecum
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Dec 4, 2008 2:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Shea: Unit Interested in SF, CC hearts SF
the Giants remain interested in CC Sabathia and believe they’re his first choice – which could go a long way in maintaining their desire to pursue the Vallejo native
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hope SF is interested in Unit.
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by jponry on Dec 4, 2008 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Many residents of SF are interested in Units.
It’s one of things that makes the city unique.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you mean men’s Units? Cause we sure do have a lot of those residents around here.
by newbtoob on Dec 4, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, he was referring to units of measurement.
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Count me in for kilometers.
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by BrianBokake on Dec 4, 2008 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Metric?! We don’t need your kind around here! I’m getting a restraining order that will force you to stay a mile away at all times!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take the Ohms please, just the Ohman. Ohms = pleasing, Ohman = meh.
by cornball on Dec 4, 2008 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This guy?
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil.
by BrianBokake on Dec 5, 2008 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Enh, even in Salt Lake City and Boise, I doubt you’d have trouble finding people interested in Units.
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by jcb9 on Dec 4, 2008 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
…rumor has it that some women enjoy them as well.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 4, 2008 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I live in Oakland, home of more lesbians per capita than any other major city in America, so not so much here.
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by jcb9 on Dec 4, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a relief…I thought it was just me (and my unit).
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 4, 2008 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More than Santa Cruz?
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by Goofus on Dec 5, 2008 7:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure what the criteria was for “major city,” but Santa Cruz probably wouldn’t qualify. Nor would Northampton, MA, which might also surpass Oakland.
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by jcb9 on Dec 5, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have thought SF topped Oakland.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 5, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Found a link
http://www.gaydemographics.org/USA/2000Census_Gay_incorporated.htm
In Oakland, 1.81% of couples living together are male couples and 2.42% are female couples. In San Francisco, it’s 5.08% male and 1.83% female.
And I was right about Northampton – 5.88% female couples there. 14.24% in Provincetown! And somehow, it’s almost 5% in Decatur, Georgia!
Holy random conversation, Batman! But I’ve always been a nerd for demographics.
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by jcb9 on Dec 5, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, that comment had way too many exclamation points in it. Geez. Someone tell me to CALM DOWN.
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by jcb9 on Dec 5, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SF doesn't really top.
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by Mayor of 311 on Dec 5, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RJ + CC =
Tallest AND fattest pitchers (players?) in MLB.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RJ+CC+TL=
Tallest AND fattest AND shortest.
by rotorueter on Dec 4, 2008 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum
Also possibly lightest.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
…and bestest.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 4, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
which is really just a reflection of California's natural diversity
we have:
the tallest tree
the oldest tree
the most massive tree (and indeed the most massive living thing)
"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we please stop making light of Bengie Molina’s weight?
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You ask the Impossible!
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil.
by BrianBokake on Dec 4, 2008 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see “ugliest” in there, Roto.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
by Kitspool on Dec 4, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The group photo would be incredible.
by rotorueter on Dec 4, 2008 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The groug photo would be incredible as well.
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2008 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
People would just think the guy was a serial killer or something though.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Dec 4, 2008 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Julian Tavarez is uglier, and I don’t think he’s coming back. He doesn’t like Units.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
by jcb9 on Dec 4, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+ Sanchez
AND dirtiest
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He could be the handsomest as well. I bet the Baron has my back on this one.
by rotorueter on Dec 4, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
all i'm sayin
big fella’d look good in cream.
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Dec 4, 2008 2:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that’s sick
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
The opportunity for gayjokes is overloading my computer.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
QUICK WHERE’S THAT PICTURE OF PRINCE FIELDER WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE BUKKAKE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Dec 4, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
QUICK WHERE’S THAT PICTURE OF PRINCE FIELDER WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE BUKKAKE
The day someone produces an official McCoven t-shirt, that quote needs to be on the back.
My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.
by Kitspool on Dec 4, 2008 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You rang? Oh wait, nevermind.
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil.
by BrianBokake on Dec 4, 2008 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope never to read this sentence again.
by Dan from NM on Dec 4, 2008 8:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
I wanna see that Randy Johnson in cream. Suppressing urge to ’shop his baseball card where he looks like a tall little girl.
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 4, 2008 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Replacing Ginger Baker?
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Dec 5, 2008 7:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’d be nice to be able to post this image and have there be three actual overweight players on the team who we all like. Tyler Walker was never worthy.
by rotorueter on Dec 4, 2008 2:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
funny line from Keith Law's ESPN.com chat
Ray (San Francisco, CA): C.C. Sabathia’s wife said that here number one choice for C.C. would be to play for the Giants. How much of an impact does this have honestly?
Keith Law: $40 million buys a lot of ice.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 4, 2008 3:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
When CC takes a contract...
wouldn’t he be worth more than the city of Vallejo? Which would make him the King of Vallejo or him renaming it Sabathia City.
by newbtoob on Dec 4, 2008 3:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sign Sabathia
Sign the player/family that wants to make a career in The City. Trade for the middle of the order bat needed even though it will cost some young talent.
by wilriv21 on Dec 4, 2008 3:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What would 2011 look like if this deal went sour
we’re looking at the possibility that we might have traded cain as a result, lincecum could be walking and us not having enough money to resign him, and zito and cc as back end starters? that would leave us with madbum and timmmy 2 as our aces in possibly their first years. with all of our supposed future potential thats a big gamble to take. we need to have some flexibility when our “future” arrives
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on Dec 4, 2008 3:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I fucking love Bobby Howry at 1 year $2.75 million. That’s the minor league contract of major-league contracts, is $2.75 million really that much more than free? For a guy who has been lights out in the past. I wasn’t enthused about him because I thought a three-year contract would be too risky but his career numbers indicate that he is a good bet to be worth a lot more than that deal.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
by JakeS on Dec 4, 2008 4:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Going back to the Burrell Post...
Sandoval Renteria Frandsen and Burrell would make the worst defensive infield of all time? There was this team I saw play one time, I can’t remember which team it was, but they had Jose Castillo, Manny Burriss, Eugenio Velez, and John Bowker all playing infield…
by Missing Barry on Dec 4, 2008 5:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but they were at least cheap.
by Dan from NM on Dec 4, 2008 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But couldn't hit...
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
by Azmanz on Dec 4, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bring you Montanez, Derrel Thomas, Chris Spier and Steve Ontiverious (75 Giants inf). Spier was good (in my opinion) the rest … well they were there.
Or the 1980 Giants
Mike Ivie, Rennie Stennett, LeMaster, and Darrell Evans.
Perhaps you would prefer Darrell Evans, Brad Wellman LeMaster and Tom O’Malley of the 1983 Giants?
Yes we have been down that pit of soul crushing despair bear trap rut road before. Good times.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Dec 5, 2008 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The idea of having C.C in orange and black is great. The reality of it is just awful. Not to say that he’s not worth the money, he’s arguably one of the top 3 pitchers in the MLB at present. But honestly, what would signing C.C do for our team? I honestly don’t think that the Giants are going to field a playoff worthy team for years to come and that when that day comes, it will be because of our developing farm and key signings. With C.C around, we’ll have the best rotation in the league but that also puts Lincecum at #2. Now what kind of message are we gonna send to the kid who just said he’s willing to go “long term?” Lincecum is our future and we should focus on making him the face of the franchise. And again, even if we sign Sabathia, what part of our order is gonna score runs to win games? We’ll pitch our opponents to death only to lose cause of the bullpen and lack of run production. C.C’s a great ballplayer but he’s a wrong fit for the Giants. ESPECIALLY because of the Barry Zito contract.
-D
by dw4848 on Dec 4, 2008 6:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
CC no no
Agreed. Great pitcher, wrong fit. Unless we can talk anyone into taking Barry and part of his contract, we cannot afford a $120M pitcher for 5-6 years. $120M for Texiera — that’s an idea I can live with.
Don't believe everything you think.
by wcovington on Dec 4, 2008 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Adding Sabathia to the rotation helps because of the domino effect of pushing the other starters back a spot. Similar what the addition fo Affeldt and Howry aid the bullpen. And what the new bat Sabean will trade for will do to the line-up pushing Rowand to 4, BMoney to 6 etc
by wilriv21 on Dec 4, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding the message to Tim, I think you’ve got it wrong. My guess is he would love a CC signing because:
- Good starters like being on a staff with other good starters. It doesn’t put the weight of the world on one guy’s shoulders and the friendly rivalry can be awesome. (Ask Johnson and Schilling if they liked being on the same staff.)
- Tim’s too much of a competitive stud to be intimidated by anyone’s presence.
- It would demonstrate the team’ commitment to being good.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Dec 5, 2008 7:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s fine for Timmy but his AGENT may think otherwise. I personally wouldn’t want to take that chance.
-D
by dw4848 on Dec 5, 2008 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nowhere else to put this, but, man, the Raiders are even worse than I thought they were.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 6:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dennis Green disagrees
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Dec 4, 2008 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
eh
I thought they were pretty bad. They have yet to disappoint.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 4, 2008 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fake poll
This site doesn’t have 800+ visitors
my cousin and i got noah lowry's autograph after he came out of a porta-potty. he was nice about it.
by hubert on Dec 4, 2008 8:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sitemeter begs to differ
Total 3,007,355
Average Per Day 3,477
Average Visit Length 5:37
Last Hour 287
Today 5,715
This Week 24,340
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
by jcb9 on Dec 4, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Those numbers look really respectable at first sight.
But considering Xanthan IS the internet, it seems like it should be higher still.
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 5, 2008 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Average Visit Length 5:37
Guys, don’t forget that every time a woman visits this site
the average goes down a bit, so this number is deceiving.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 5, 2008 8:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And it is kind of cold on this blog…
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 5, 2008 8:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m LOLing uncontrolably, glad I’m the only one in the office
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Dec 5, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Never underestimate the duplicate groug voting bloc. That’s gotta be about 700 votes right there.
by rightcenterfielder on Dec 4, 2008 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Got to give Cashman credit
Yankees GM Brian Cashman to meet with Sabathia on Saturday prior to winter meetings. Wants to kick the tires in person and get a feel for Sabathia and his intentions. Nothing like letting the client know who much you are interested and care.
Sabathia may sign as soon as next week with a team.
by wilriv21 on Dec 4, 2008 9:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh , certainmente , Papi.
And it’ll most probably be a team who much are interested and care.
What , were you drunk?
Maybe you’ve been hanging late at night with women of Asian persuasian! lol
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Dec 4, 2008 10:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, we in the mix
Accoring to John Shea
Speaking of Bay Area pitchers, the Giants remain interested in CC Sabathia and believe they’re his first choice – which could go a long way in maintaining their desire to pursue the Vallejo native, who has a $140 million offer on the table from the Yankees.
The Giants haven’t offered a contract to Sabathia. For now, they’re closely monitoring the Sabathia sweepstakes, exercising patience and possibly preparing to strike later rather than sooner, similar to how they obtained Barry Zito two years ago.
Insert snakrky Zito comment here
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Dec 5, 2008 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Carmelballin sez
Throw out that kind of money……….??
From what it sounds like, we’re still in the running for Sabathia offering him a little over 100 million. In adidtion, there have been rumors that Pat Burrell wants to come to the Bay Area.
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind having both of these guys, but do you think that the Giants will throw out that kind of cash, esspecially right after signing Renteria.
Gotta love that baseball doesn’t have a salary cap, but how much will be willing to spend?
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 10:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I want the Giants to sign him just so I can start calling him McCC Sabathia.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2008 10:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
How about trading for Peavy?
If Sabean thinks Sabathia is too expensive then the Giants should consider Jake Peavy. The cost-cutting Padres are having difficulty finding a trading partner for the former Cy Yound award winner. Peavy is owed “only” $60M over the next four seasons. Padres would be looking for low-cost players in return.
Sabean then can negotiate will any of the FA hitters for the bat the team needs. There might even be an overall cash savings of having Peavy plus FA hitter rather than signing FA Sabathia and trading for the hitter. Who knows maybe even be able to keep the second round pick in the draft.
by wilriv21 on Dec 6, 2008 2:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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