OT: Qualifications of a Superhero
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 10:09 AM PST
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Warning: the following entry has absolutely nothing to do with baseball.
My brothers and I have an argument that somehow comes up about every time that we see each other. It's one that I've found many people to be on both sides of. The question: is Batman a superhero?
I know there's some comic and superhero lovers around these parts and I want to get your consensus. Any comments and opinions related to the subject are welcome and suggested.
The all-knowing wikipedia describes a superhero as "a fictional character of unprecedented physical prowess dedicated to acts of derring-do in the public interest". The main argument that I've heard against Batman being a superhero has been that he has no super power, and thus, cannot be a SUPER hero. I call BS on this argument...he's incredibly strong, has a mastery of martial arts, defeats villains for the betterment of society, and has Alfred---that argument alone should be enough.
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A hero is only defined as the enemy he opposes.
So Batman fights Supervillains? Then I’d say he’s a Superhero.
Bruce can even keep Superman in check.
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 10:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
RE: The Dark Knight Returns
Have you read this? The stories sound fascinating.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IGN disagrees
apparently 2nd on the list of top 25 greatest Batman novels?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DKR2 was meh. Year One was actually better.
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
according to SoFa's wiki link
it’s Batman: Year One.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
DKR still has the edge though in plot lines. Year One follows the Batman mythos pretty close. I think that’s where Batman Begins gets its premise.
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yup
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
by kennv on Dec 4, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
could not agree more. DKR2 is such a crapfest, I don’t know that I would want to use it as TP.
by tyrannoman on Dec 4, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t read the DKR2, because Frank Miller really bugs me now.
by satyricrash on Dec 4, 2008 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I had to read DKR for one of my core humanities classes and thought it was amazing, wrote a pretty good paper on it too
Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?
by Speedforthewin on Dec 4, 2008 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A must have for your bookshelf.
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
poo?
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about it? The bathroom is down the hall, to the left.
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a superhero is not what Gotham needs
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 10:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
no human could take that many punches and not last for under a year...
and no one has that sort of reaction speed or luck.
Definitely a superhero.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Dec 4, 2008 10:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
rocky did
and he’s just a lug from philly
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait.
Are you saying Rocky isn’t a superhero?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
did I stutter?
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And but so, if Rocky and Batman fought, who would win?
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Batman
His superior intelligence and gobs of cash would see to that. Rocky isn’t that smart, AND Paulie lost all of his money.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 4, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am probably the biggest Rocky fan ever
But even I will be the first to admit that Rocky’s main strategy is tiring his opponents to the point that he can unleash holy hell on them. Batman just doesn’t tire like Clubber.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but, my friend, you have forgotten:
Rocky can “eat lightning” and “crap thunder”.
Advantage: the Rock
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rock would lay the smackdown on all their candyasses!
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
People forget, to their peril, that Rocky was trained by the Penguin himself
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dick Cheney?!?
Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.
by EliminateMe on Dec 4, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
holy chicken chase batman, he was!
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
by kennv on Dec 4, 2008 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Norris
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Dec 4, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That movie would kick so much ass.
Wait, more like: That movie would kick its own ass because it’s scared shitless of Chuck Norris
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Batman also has a much higher than average intelligence, and Knowledge is power!
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 10:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Also if Batman isn’t a superhero, by that definition Iron Man isn’t as well.
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
great point.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what about that atomic heart?
pre-atomic heart, certainly.
post-atomic heart, i think he’s super-human.
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t really enhance his physical body in any way though. He still needs the suit to perform superheroic deeds.
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
precisely
neither of those dudes is a superhero.
their suits, however, might be.
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the heart is basically a pacemaker
not a super ability
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where's Baggs when you need him?
He’d settle this.
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 4, 2008 10:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nobody signaled him.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
since we have a Baggs signal, should we have a designated commish of the McCoven who signals Baggs?
Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?
by Speedforthewin on Dec 4, 2008 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely Superhero
Also the coolest of all superheroes. I mean, Superman can only be slowed down by an alien object. Spiderman has his awesome spider sense that conveniently disappears when someone is about to club him over the head from behind (too much comic strip). Wolverine has claws that come out of his hands, AND he’s unbreakable!
Batman? He’s just better than everyone else. That’s his frickin’ super power.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 4, 2008 10:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
no, he's an everyman
who defies the norm. that’s what make him cooler than a superhero
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So if Superman were to say to Batman, “What, you think you’re BETTER than me?” Batman would reply, “Yup.”
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 4, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Batman stashes Kryptonite bullets in the Batcave.
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Batman doesn't NEED kryptonite!
He can cut that motherfudger with his bare hands, bitches!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 4, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
batman doesn't need kryptonite
he leaves the green arrow to use kryptonite arrows instead
Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?
by Speedforthewin on Dec 4, 2008 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just ask a 6 year old.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
by zenbitz on Dec 4, 2008 10:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
a fictional character of unprecedented physical prowess dedicated to acts of derring-do in the public interest"
OH YEAH? What about Prof X. He’s got unprecedented MENTAL prowess, but he can’t even cross his legs by himself.
by satyricrash on Dec 4, 2008 11:08 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Not even with his MIND!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But he can make you THINK he did.
Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...
by tedfordfan on Dec 4, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted no
To me the term superhero does require superpowers. Batman and Ironman are both just rich dudes with some amazing technology and strong wills. They do not have any powers that are beyond human limits.
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Dec 4, 2008 11:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I also voted no
…and agree that superhero requires super powers. Sadly, Batman is merely a “hero” – at best. That should be good enough for you people, like dating a model should be good enough. But no, you insist on dating a supermodel! Where’s the love for regular models, and regular heroes*?
*In no way does this endorse the NBC show or its sponsors. Your heroism may vary. If heroism persists for more than four hours, consult a physician.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.
by Lyle on Dec 4, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That should be good enough for you people, like dating a model should be good enough. But no, you insist on dating a supermodel! Where’s the love for regular models, and regular heroes*?
/Tom Brady laughs uncontrollably
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The cast of Heroes has superpowers, right? Guaranteed, Batman could kick any of their asses, especially Rory Gilmore’s ex-boyfriend. He could probably also kill the cheerleader.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 4, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what abou Aquaman?
He has superpowers, but they’re really not that useful.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2008 11:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t even need to click on the link because I knew where that was going.
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like how the uploader just recorded his TV screen. If he could upload that, why couldn’t he get a digital copy or DVD to use instead?
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's going for that pirated movie look
To give him some credit, at least the TV is mostly centered in the frame, unlike some crappy videos I’ve seen that are inexplicably shot at an angle.
by rightcenterfielder on Dec 4, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ITS TO AVOIDZ GLAIR!!!
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is chuck norris a superhero?
he’s strong, knows kung jitsu and defeats villains for the betterment of rednecks
therefore- superhero
i adopt the ghost of ernest riles
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 4, 2008 11:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
nah, he used to live next door to my in-laws
and he’s a tiny, skinny thing with a loud, obnoxious dog. I’m not a fan.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Dec 4, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, this martial arts master of the universe has a GUARD DOG.
Why the fcuk would a superhero need a guard dog?
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Dec 4, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps it is the martial arts master guard dog of the universe? And Chuck is the only one who understands him.
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 4, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
dude you should totally give out autographs. or get the dog to. theres gotta be some money in that. The Chuck Norris+Dog next door… TO MURDER!
GET HOLLYWOOD ON THE PHONE!
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 4, 2008 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Josh?
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.
by Lyle on Dec 5, 2008 3:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Definite superhero
defined by his general kickassitude.
Put another way, when a supervillain wants to conquer the world and proceeds to take out all the superheroes who may stop him (or her), who is the first person they take out? Yep. Batman. QED.
Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...
by tedfordfan on Dec 4, 2008 12:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Captain America
same situation — no unnatural powers
and all of them were unquestionably superheros
by melottfan on Dec 4, 2008 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
Super-soldier serum, dude.
Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.
by EliminateMe on Dec 4, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
Super-soldier serum Flaxseed oil, dude.
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 4, 2008 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so Capt’n America’s America’s freakin captain and Bonds gets crucified? The hypocrisy…
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 4, 2008 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bonds’ shield wasn’t quite as cool.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.
by Lyle on Dec 5, 2008 3:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The main argument that I’ve heard against Batman being a superhero has been that he has no super power, and thus, cannot be a SUPER hero.
On the contrary, that’s what makes him the greatest of all superheroes.
Lincecum excepted, of course.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Dec 4, 2008 1:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This just came up the other day
My brother, aka Biff Pocaroba in these parts, was talking about the upcoming movie “The Watchmen” when he made something like this comment:
“There’s only one superhero in the town, a guy with real powers. The rest are like Batman-types”
So I think that should settle it.
by Stoned Slacker on Dec 4, 2008 1:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Okay, that settles is.
Your brother definitely does not know what he’s talking about. I wasn’t sure before.
Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.
by EliminateMe on Dec 4, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A hero kills people. People that wish him harm. A hero is part human, part supernatural. A hero is born out of a childhood trauma or out of a disaster and must be avenged.
bitte, baby.
by ryanmiles on Dec 4, 2008 2:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, by that, you could say Hitler was a hero.
by satyricrash on Dec 4, 2008 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
dwight shrute ispretty german.
bitte, baby.
by ryanmiles on Dec 4, 2008 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew I recognized that from somewhere!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 4, 2008 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now, what are the qualifications for a hero sandwich?
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 3:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oil and vinegar—hero. Mayo and mustard—no fookin way.
/east coast bias
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 4, 2008 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hero sandwich can tell when you’re hungry
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
when you’ve forgotten your bag lunch at home, somehow hero sandwich finds his way into your backpack.
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree with bgunn..
oil and vinegar. salt,pepper, Peperoncini , onions, assorted cheeses and meats, and good bread, not that Subway crap.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on Dec 4, 2008 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
Batman is just a rich dude in a rubber suit
"Forget it Donny, you're out of your element"-Walter Sobchak
by icanplaythird on Dec 4, 2008 4:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tim Tebow
Not
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Dec 4, 2008 5:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Y’know, the title of this fanpost would make a good movie title. Quick! Trademark it, UnleashTheGore!
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 5:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nerdiest Fan-whatsis ever? TK says yes.
Still-proud, adoptive mama of Notgardo Alfonzo, who's back from the 50-game purgatory. He promises never to do it again. I couldn't get him to promise to hit, though. We're working on that with bribes of M&Ms, kind of like potty training.
by tk on Dec 4, 2008 6:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
MY POKEMANS
LET ME SHOW YOU THEM
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Dec 4, 2008 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OMG WHERE?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right here
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Dec 5, 2008 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not.
I.e. I couldn’t become Green Lantern unless I was chosen by the guardians of the Universe but given enough startup capital and an adequate research facility I could be Batman.
You could be Batman?
Sure, I’M BATMAN, see?
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by WalrusMan on Dec 4, 2008 9:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
btw..
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on Dec 4, 2008 10:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap, speaking of laugh tracks!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2008 10:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s the only thing that annoys me about that show.
by Natto on Dec 4, 2008 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny clip, BUT… He’d also have learn to be a master of karate. And friendship for everyone.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 5, 2008 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so the real question: is nightman a superhero? what about greenman?
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 5, 2008 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Worst superhero ever?
My vote is for Aquaman.
/communicates telepathically with dolphins
/deer head
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Dec 5, 2008 6:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Super Chicken would kick all of their asses!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 5, 2008 2:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
caaaaaaaaaaaaall for super chicken! bawk bawk bawk bawk!
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by Takimoto on Dec 6, 2008 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bruce Wayne's enormous buying power = superpower
To deny that is to deny that the USA was ever a superpower.
I'm adopting a true Giant and an awe-inspring gamer: tk. "Atta babe."
by Mayor of 311 on Dec 6, 2008 1:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
that means Iron Man is a superhero yes? Because at least Bruce Wayne is a highly trained fighter. Tony Stark is a rich guy in a suit.
It's spelled "M-A-R-C-H-I-N-G-B-A-N-D."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on Dec 6, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A rich guy...
In a SUPER suit.
Think about THAT!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 6, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Batman is clearly a super hero, but he’s not a superhero.
by David Arnott on Dec 6, 2008 11:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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