OT Hanukkah and being Jewish around Christmas
by homerdrew415 on Dec 24, 2008 3:22 PM PST
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So Hanukkah is upon us and Christmas is rearing it's ugly head, and I'm wondering what the rest of my chosen peoples do when their family are away. I'll be going to my gf's house for the 3rd year now and still don't really get this whole Christmas thing. Over the past three years I've felt like a stranger in a strange land an ambassador or a foreign diplomat, who is only there on observer status. Anywho enough about me, what about the rest of the flock? Chinese and a movie? Indian food and comic books? Middle Eastern food and a marathon session of Counterstrike?
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When In Rome
My wife is Dominican, and this Jew will be hosting a Christmas party, praying for midnight when everyone opens their gifts and gets the hell out!!
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
by rxmeister on Dec 24, 2008 3:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thx for inviting me, your favorite Orthodox Jewish friend....
you little bastad!!
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by Mordy From Monsey on Dec 24, 2008 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Invite lost in the mail???
believe me I did you a favor. You would have had to listen to her Yankee loving cousin telling me wrong facts all night, like the Yankees are now offering Manny Ramirez 140 million over the next four years, but he’s holding out for 150 million!!
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by rxmeister on Dec 25, 2008 6:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey knock igorant dominican yankee fans all you want
They have great food
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Dec 25, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
chinese food and the movies
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on Dec 24, 2008 4:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
All the chinese food places around me were closed last Christmas. So it was peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 24, 2008 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My intent
was to ask if people were going to Henry’s Hunan or Mae Lee’s or a similar place. If anyone thought I meant Panda Express they can go DIAF
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by homerdrew415 on Dec 25, 2008 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the ACLU
Ban all religious symbols in Union Square?
What gives?
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on Dec 24, 2008 4:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I could be wrong
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on Dec 24, 2008 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You have your choice of gigantic mennorah, pagan tree, or consumerist Tiffany’s powder blue bags to choose from
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 24, 2008 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or Aluminum Pole!
Good strength to weight ratio!
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by WalrusMan on Dec 24, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Packing, cleaning, then picking up my dad at the airport.
Actually, I should be doing these things now but I’m lazy. Save the picking my dad up because that’s actually Christmas.
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by WalrusMan on Dec 24, 2008 5:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is the first Christmas with no kids at home. One is staying at school (Vandy), and the other is celebrating with her new husband and family. Mrs. NVSFG and I are looking forward to a quiet, totally stress free day. We have already done the presents and what not last weekend, so the day will be spent hanging aound watching movies, eating, and doing pretty much nothing at all.
My adopted sons Matt Downs and Ben Copeland . Still not ranked in the McC prospect list.
by nvsfg on Dec 24, 2008 6:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Color me envious. I really fucking hate the holidays (Christmas and Thanksgiving for my family). I love the time off work, but everything else seems stupid and trite to me. If it wasn’t tradition people would laugh at it, and I hate doing things because of tradition.
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by marcello on Dec 24, 2008 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a big fan of the “commercialization” of the major holidays myself. If you want to remember what they are really about, spend some time tomorrow at a shelter or food kitchen. It will remind you what the Christmas is really about.
The clock doesn't matter in baseball. Time stands still or moves backwards. Theoretically, one game could go on forever. Some seem to.-Herb Caen
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by nvsfg on Dec 24, 2008 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, isn’t Christmas really about the birth of a deity?
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by Karlifornia on Dec 25, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Enh, it’s really about grafting a secular holiday onto a Christian holiday that was grafted onto a pagan holiday. What it’s “about” depends entirely on who’s asking.
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by jcb9 on Dec 25, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
***Ding ! Ding ! Ding !***
Great Answer.
The clock doesn't matter in baseball. Time stands still or moves backwards. Theoretically, one game could go on forever. Some seem to.-Herb Caen
My adopted son Matt Downs . Still not ranked in the McC prospect list.
by nvsfg on Dec 25, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You could say the “it depends on who’s asking” thing in regards to pretty much anything. It doesn’t make it a “true meaning”, does it?
I’m not religious in the slightest, in fact, I am more Bill Maher than Billy Graham, but let’s not muddle things with cliches.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Dec 27, 2008 2:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s my plan for next year. I’m gonna find a women’s shelter or a soup kitchen or something that needs volunteers and just help out there next December 25. My holidays always suck, but I can help someone else have a day that doesn’t suck.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 25, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t celebrate Christmas because I find it to be complete bullshit, but that’s a whole other rant for my personal blog. I tried to give Hanukkah a whirl this year because I felt sort of like a mean old crank by not even trying for some holiday spirit. I have no money to cook any fabulous Hannukah food, so there goes my plans.
The hell with this. I just wasn’t meant to celebrate any winter holidays.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 24, 2008 6:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hate...
-The gift giving
-The “traditions”
-The commercialization
-Most other things
But, any holiday like this is more about the family than anything. Christmas could be just like another Thanksgiving and I’d be happy.
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by WalrusMan on Dec 24, 2008 7:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And what’s worse, is we have to deal with all of this from the first day when Christmas shit appears in stores, and it seems it’s going to last until Friday at least with the post-Christmas sales.
A lot of my dissatisfaction with the season is purely personal stuff, but I think there’s truth in all the things you listed, for everyone to be annoyed with.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 24, 2008 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We’re more Solstice celebraters around here. Hooray for the sun!
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by Merope on Dec 24, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the gift giving. I mean, I get lots of stuff! I got Dark Knight on Blu-Ray! What’s not to like about that?
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by howtheyscored on Dec 25, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's always festivus!
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by PacBellBoozer on Dec 24, 2008 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For the rest of us!
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by WalrusMan on Dec 24, 2008 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YAY!
I hate Christmas too! Link me to the blog if write your dissatisfaction post. I will comment enthusiastically.
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by marcello on Dec 24, 2008 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wrote it last night. It’s a rant about how I got laid off yet again at the worst possible time of the year. Then I added my anger at how everyone seems to think the holiday is some sacred thing where nothing bad can ever happen to anyone, yet people die, people have no money, children are beaten and molested, people are thrown out of their homes, lives are thrown into turmoil; yes Virginia, even on Christmas. All those things have happened to me or in my family over the holidays since I’ve been alive. I also hate how the entire world shuts down for like two weeks surrounding the holiday.
The actual day, December 25, isn’t that bad actually. It’s just this whole stupid illusion surrounding the holiday that pisses me off.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 25, 2008 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To add
to the glory that is non-denominational gift exchange day, I watched Religulus (or however it’s spelled) tonight and spent a good hour and a half plus laughing about the Christianity aspect and it’s irony…so all in all it was a good day. Outside of that, I finally bought my gun safe (now that I have my 10-22 rifle and 9mm smith & wesson) and spent some money on stuff for driving my cab, so it’s been a decent enough day.
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Dec 25, 2008 11:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exploiting to make a buck
That’s what it comes down to
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 26, 2008 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s just this whole stupid illusion surrounding the holiday that pisses me off.
I couldn’t agree more.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
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by marcello on Dec 26, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
Hanukkah food is shredded potatoes, oil, and whatever sauce you normally use. I’m of the mindset that since they are essentially hashbrowns, you should use ketchup, but some like applesauce or sour cream or whatever…Over all though they aren’t expensive to make
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Dec 25, 2008 9:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
I barely had enough money for groceries because I’m getting laid off next week. And I’m not likely to find another job for a while because of the economy and the stupid ass holiday that shuts down the entire planet.
Joy to the world.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 25, 2008 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if it's any help
The US Census is hiring in advance of it’s 2010 Census, and pay starts at $22 per hour for the 8 week period (minimum). As someone who was unemployed for nearly half of 2008 (Feb – August, Oct-Mid December) I understand the broke thing. Just focus on getting your unemployment money from EDD and utilizing as many free services for the poor that SF offers (assuming you live in SF). If you land a job, hold onto it for dear life as any work is good work right now.
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Dec 25, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The census thing doesn’t sound like a bad gig. I’ll look into that. Thanks for the tip.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 25, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW - From what I've read the US Census will be hiring 700,000 people for their positions
So there should be plenty of work available.
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Dec 26, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hate christmas
looooove A Christmas Story.
That and Tim and Eric with my girlfriend is all I need.
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Dec 24, 2008 11:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ummm
i like christmas (i didn’t think i would ever be anywhere where saying that would bring me so much ill will)
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by TexasRanger on Dec 25, 2008 12:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
You have a place here: http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/12/24/701543/happy-holidays-to-my-broth
by Natto on Dec 25, 2008 12:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the holidays are a pain in the ass, but you have to remember that Christmas is for the kids. They love it, we’re not supposed to. The good thing is time off from work and seeing people you don’t see all year. The bad part is the expense and seeing people you don’t see all year. I actually have three days off in a row right now, and this is the first time I’ve had that since my summer vacations. So, even though I’m Jewish, merry christmas!!
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
by rxmeister on Dec 25, 2008 6:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Christmas was terrible for me as a kid as well. Not because we were poor, but because my parents were always high/drunk/generally acting like assholes. Or like the year when my stepfather died suddenly and the bank foreclosed on our house in December. Or like every year where my brother got the shit beaten out of him or my stepfather tried to put his hands all over me when I was a preteen.
Christmas is for the kids, yep.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 25, 2008 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I should have said Christmas is for kids unless you were brought up in the Manson family or that Leatherface family in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie. Needless to say I meant in a normal family Christmas is for kids. Very sorry about your painful childhood memories.
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
by rxmeister on Dec 26, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone explain the “eating Chinese on Christmas” thing. (Insert joke about my Chiese ex-gf being being my ex-gf because I’d only eat Chinese on Christmas joke here)
Is that a tradition that started because it was the only place that Jews could find open on Christmas day?
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by Goofus on Dec 25, 2008 7:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ha pretty good.
Well, My family actually started a “eat Chinese on Christmas Eve” thing because, yes, they’re just about the only thing that’s open (besides Denny’s). We used to go to this nice place in Rocklin before continuing to my grandparents house for Christmas. I think we just stopped wanting Chinese on Christmas Eve though so we stopped going.
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by WalrusMan on Dec 25, 2008 7:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is
that when Jews first began assimilating themselves into America, the only other group of immigrants (in any large enough number) to America, (who were not Christian) were the Chinese. Thus the options on Christmas were stay at home, or go out for Chinese food. Now that’s changed as at least around here, I could be going for Indian, Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, middle-eastern (most of the arab world, but also afghani and other similar options) food and options are awesome..
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by homerdrew415 on Dec 25, 2008 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Chinese people go out for Jewish food?
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Dec 25, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone knows we don't have good food. Even Kosher delis aren't really Jewish food
That being said I would disembowel someone for a Hebrew national hotdog (but I gave up beef on my B-day a month ago).
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Dec 25, 2008 11:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Got to make sure that kosher pork is stuffed into tofu then served on top of more kosher pork.
/looks around and hides
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 26, 2008 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't trust Tofu
Who can trust a food that steals the flavors of other food?
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by homerdrew415 on Dec 26, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love pork...
Bacon ‘specially, though I don’t really keep kosher
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by homerdrew415 on Dec 26, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The way I look at it is this:
- If God had known how good bacon was going to be when we figured out how to make it, He would have made it kosher.
- God knows all, etc. etc. blah blah, so he did know to begin with, even if He acted like He didn’t, like He sometimes does or whatever.
Therefore:
- God made bacon kosher. Whether He told us so or not.
Therefore:
- We must all eat lots of bacon.
The interesting thing about this is that the final conclusion is logically true regardless of faith. So, whatever I am, everything’s coming up bacon!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 26, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a believer!
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by Goofus on Dec 27, 2008 8:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me help you out
Here’s where God bans eating pig, amongst other animals:
“But among those that chew the cud or have divided hoofs, you shall not eat the following: the camel, for even though it chews the cud, it does not have divided hoofs; it is unclean for you. The rock-badger, for even though it chews the cud, it does not have divided hoofs; it is unclean for you. The hare, for even though it chews the cud, it does not have divided hoofs; it is unclean for you. The pig, for even though it has divided hoofs and is cloven-footed, it does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. Of their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch; they are unclean for you.”
“The rock-badger, for even though it chews the cud, it does not have divided hoofs; it is unclean for you. The hare, for even though it chews the cud, it does not have divided hoofs; it is unclean for you.”
Rock-badgers do not chew the cud. Neither do hares. God must know this, since He/She knows everything. So, this leaves us with three options:
1) God was messing with us.
2) God was drunk when he said this.
3) This part was added by people who claimed this is the word of God, but messed up.
In any case, you just found justification for ignoring this part of the bible.
No need to thank me.
P.S. Apologies for all of the people I’ve just offended.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Dec 27, 2008 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, what a bunch of haters
I love Christmas, and I am not religious at all. In fact, I’m really anti-religious.
I don’t particularity like holidays in general, but I do like Christmas. Yes, it’s commercialized, and I don’t like that. Yes – there is a lot of greed associated with it and sometimes buying presents can get out of hand.
But it’s a nice holiday, the meaning behind it is nice (if you ignore the whole Jesus bullshit). It’s basically a pagan winter celebration anyway, and I’m totally down with that.
I’m down to steal any cool holiday from any religion, and as such I’m 100% cool with Christmas.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 25, 2008 10:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You must not have a batshit insane family
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Dec 25, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess not.
by FairweatherFan on Dec 25, 2008 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 25, 2008 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Love Christmas. To make things easy, I tell people I’m a non-practicing Jew. That’s not really true (well, it’s kind of true in technical terms), but it gets people off my back when they can’t figure out what I am supposed to be if I’m not part of an organized faith and I’m also not athiest or agnostic, of which I am neither.
But I love Christmas. I recognize Hanukkah and used to celebrate it. My holidays are more traveling than they used to be, but it’s fun. Family, gifts, drinks, food… all good stuff. The schedule appears to be Home >> Girlfriend’s House >> Sister’s House >> Girlfriend’s House >> Home >> profit (I mean, literally, check out all these gift cards!).
It’s not religious or faith driven for me. It’s a big family celebration. And I think that’s cool.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 25, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow I can’t believe it’s so complicated joining this elite group. Anyway, this may be of relevance:
http://www.nanach.net/2006/04/son-of-king-and-son-of-maid-who-were.html
disclaimer: needs patience
Happy Hanukka!
by Israelgiant on Dec 25, 2008 8:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got to remember not to read these OT posts.
Wow.
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by Lyle on Dec 26, 2008 7:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
jews have had an impact on xmas day
in days of yor…xmas day was the day for jews
you could go anywhere…the movies, disneyland or any other entertainment venue…and you, and your brethren would be the only ones there, as all christians spent their day in church and with family
no more
now christians do everything xmas eve and in the morning
which is why so many movies now open on xmas day
i want the day back
it used to be so cool showing up to an almost empty theater to see a first run movie….or going to a 3/4 empty disneyland and not having to stand in line to get on the e-ticket rides
christians need to find religion and give me back xmas day
thank you
by bacci40 on Dec 27, 2008 11:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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