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ESPN just reported it, too, so I doubt it's bs. 8 years, 180 mil. How can the Yankees do this and their fans still argue they're not buying the friggin league? That's $423 million freaking dollars spent this offseason for the Yanks. That's why we hate em. :)

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I probably shouldn’t be pissed off about this, but I really am. What a fucking joke.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 23, 2008 12:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's ok

We’ll all be smiling when they don’t win the WS again.

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 12:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sick of my happiness as a fan being solely based on whether or not the Yankees win the World Series. This has become quite tragic.

"Tito Santana is like a cue-ball. The more you strike him, the more english you get out of him." -- Bobby Heenan

by LiquidPolio on Dec 23, 2008 12:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you not happy the Giants are almost good again?

They’re within one or two years of competing again. Times aren’t so desolate for us anymore; they were in 06 and 07, but not so much this year and hopefully not next. But it’s fun to watch the Steinbrenners constantly try to buy the best FA’s on the market EVERY YEAR, and it doesn’t work. It’s funny because any other team would do waaaay better than the Yankees if they had their payroll. It’s also fun to watch their assclown fans shit their pants because AHHHH WE DIDNT WIN THE WS THIS YEAR!!!! BEING A FAN OF SUCH A GOOD TEAM IS SOOOO HARDDDDD!!!!!

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 1:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, when a team with a 1/3 of their payroll beats them in the playoffs

assuming they make the playoffs

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2008 1:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Better the Yankees than the Red Sox

So the Blue Jays get the Yankees third rounder for losing AJ Burnett.

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 12:39 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and the Brewers get the Yankees second rounder for losing CC Sabathia. Ouch.

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 12:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does this mean they thing Nick Swisher is a centerfielder?

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 12:46 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe, I hope they put Damon back in CF so I can laugh at his arm.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 12:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always thought he looked like a right hander trying to throw lefty.

Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.

by SF Pete on Dec 23, 2008 12:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looks like jesus, acts like judas, throws like mary.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Dec 23, 2008 1:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Total Win

My adopted sons Matt Downs and Ben Copeland . Still not ranked in the McC prospect list.

by nvsfg on Dec 23, 2008 4:51 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The rumor is that The Yanks will try to unload Matsui so they could DH Damon. This move leads me to believe they want to unload Matsui and pick up a true CF, in the same deal if possible. I think likely targets are Arizona and Milwaukee to pick up a CF. Arizona because they desperately want to be rid of Byrnes contract. the potential OF would be Swisher in LF, mystery CF and Nady in RF

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 6:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

doubt that'll happen

He’s making 14 mil right? Nobody wants that kind of contract at his age. Maybe we could pry Nady from them?

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 8:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nady could happen, but from our side i’d try to send Rowand over. I can see the Yanks taking on some more salary, especially if it is for a player who is leagure average defensively in CF and league average offensively. I’d like to see Nady for Rowand and Pucetas maybe

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 9:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nady

He is from Salinas area, went to Hartnell JC/ CAL. I would love to have him. He is not flashy, but he has a lot of talent.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2008 9:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone know how he is supposed to be defensively? I have never heard how he is with the glove.

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 9:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe he is around -1 or -2. not exactly sure though.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2008 10:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is that at 1B or RF? i know he has played more RF lately, but he’s played some 1B in the majors and that’s what he would play for us if he got traded here

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 11:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, what’s their lineup look like now?

1. Damon CF
2. Jeter SS
3. Teixeira 1B
4. A-Rod 3B
5. Matsui DH
6. Cano 2B
7. Swisher RF
8. Posada C
9. Nady LF

Starting Rotation
1. C.C.
2. Burnett
3. Wang
4. Hughes
5. Joba

The media is going to poop themselves.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 12:49 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

However, why do I get the feeling they will still lose in the ALDS?

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 12:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there was a rumor floating around about NYY/SF about Nady. Apparently he has played some 3b.

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 12:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

like Nate?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all.

by baetown415 on Dec 23, 2008 1:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

better than Nate, but not good by a long shot

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ZOMG NO WAY OJ, Nate’s like Rolen… but better

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all.

by baetown415 on Dec 23, 2008 1:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't he...

essentially the same player as Pedro Feliz?

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by ThrillisGone22 on Dec 24, 2008 3:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True, all infielders are just slightly better Pedro Felizes.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 24, 2008 4:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nate Schierholtz played third?

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 2:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good lord

that’s a loaded lineup. Nady would be hitting cleanup for us. The rotation’s a little thin on the end, though. They need Chamberlain, Wang, and Burnett to all stay healthy. One of them’s bound to go down, and they have no depth to replace any of them. And they’ll also need a breakout year from Phil Hughes. This team looks like it could turn into this year’s Tigers to me.

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 12:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I concur. I thought the Tigers line-up was great, and then it never materialized. Hopefully the new NY stadium is a hitter’s dream, that way their new pitchers will get lit up.

"Tito Santana is like a cue-ball. The more you strike him, the more english you get out of him." -- Bobby Heenan

by LiquidPolio on Dec 23, 2008 12:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They should trade for Zito.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 12:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you crazy?

They’d never take him. Why would they ever want a contract that small?

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 1:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The universe would probably implode

It’s not possible to commit so much money to so many guys in one offseason.

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by raisingcain on Dec 23, 2008 1:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

with that lineup they don’t need a break out year from Phil Hughes. They just need him to pitch like a fifth starter.

Chamberlin’s pretty good too.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 12:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think the rotation looks fine. Plus they’ve got a couple of guys like Ian Kennedy would could eat some back of the rotation innings.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They don't at the moment

but what about when Burnett makes his weekly trip to the DL? Wang was out most of the year himself. Same with Chamberlain. Can you really count on them all to stay healthy?

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 1:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burnett has started 32, 21, 25, and 34 games over the past four years. He’s not an IRON MAN but he’ll give the Yankees 20+ starts a season.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But that could be said about any good pitching staff.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who else could that be said about?

I can only really think of the Red Sox with Josh Beckett, but they were deep enough in pitching so it didn’t matter.

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 1:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ours

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jonathan Sanchez is no clear bet to make it through a whole season

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 2:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he’s only played one year!

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 2:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exactly

How does it make sense to group Sanchez, who has been in the league for a year, with a guy who has been in the league for 10 and has only topped 30 starts in a season twice. Burnett also missed all of 03’ with TJ surgery. Is it fair to call Sanchez that fragile so early on in his career?

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 3:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I certainly wouldn’t say he’s a good bet for health.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 3:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really? You don’t think so?

by chilibean_3 on Dec 23, 2008 2:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lowry

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by Goofus on Dec 23, 2008 2:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well yeah but he's pretty much out of our rotation now

even Sabean doesn’t count him as a part of the team.

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 5:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Dodgers. the Cubs, and that’s only the teams that have a rotation that good if nobody gets hurt.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of the RS starters last season,

only Jon Lester had more than 200 IP.

And what is the RS depth? Lester, Beckett, Matsuzaka, Wakefield, Bucholz, Masterson? The RS have question marks in their rotation too. Signing Sabathia would have made sense for them.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Dec 23, 2008 7:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’d still take the sox rotation over the next 3 years. 3 youngs kids with great stuff in the rotation, a workhorse (matsuzaka) and an up and down veteran with overpowering stuff (beckett).

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by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 7:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He could pitch like zito

and they’d still be OK.

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by The Thrill on Dec 23, 2008 4:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't forget Petite

we should be hearing soon the Petite will be re-signing with the Yanks to improve their rotation

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 3:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well that lineup ought to be able to hit it’s way out of it’s defensive shortcomings.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 12:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really want to see Damon play CF again. I’m pretty sure I can throw a baseball further than him.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 12:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He couldn’t throw across a phone book.

His range is kinda crappy too.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 12:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He used to be pretty solid in CF, but I haven’t looked at any of his recent defensive numbers. I know he was good in LF.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 12:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he had been pretty reliable for -9 UZR in center for the last three years. Last year, he was putrid in CF in a limited number of games.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wouldnt they be better off with either Nady or Swish in center and Damon in left? I cant imagine them putting him back in center. Does this mean the Cameron/Melky deal is officially dead?

by sam23 on Dec 23, 2008 2:16 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still think that the Yankees going after Byrnes makes sense. The D’backs need to shed salary BAD

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by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 6:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

arent the Sox interested in Byrnes? seems like theyd have the cash to use him as a 4th OF now. Seems like Byrnes would be a pretty bad CF. Theyre better off not forcing Milwaukee to take Wang back and just swapping Cabrera for Cameron to get some D in that OF. That also forces Swish to a sort of utility role filling in at all 3 OF spots, 1B and DH. I’m jealous.

by sam23 on Dec 23, 2008 11:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They were going to swap Byrnes for Lugo.

The Red Sox almost got away with murder.

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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 24, 2008 8:24 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea, I read discussions are back on for Byrnes and the BoSox, though not involving Lugo now.

by sam23 on Dec 24, 2008 11:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lotta strikeouts from the pitchers, too.

by Evan on Dec 23, 2008 12:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that is still no giant-killing offense (no pun intended)

Damon, Matsui, and Posada are all about done. Jeter’s on the downside of his career, and Cano, Swisher, & Nady are all OK-to-average. And while A-Rod is certainly one of the best hitters, he certainly hasn’t done anything in the postseason.

I’m very interested to see if CC will return to his “above average” pitcher status as an AL pitcher rather than the “dominant” status in the NL. Burnett is very injury-prone, Huges looked bad last year, and Joba is a 5-inning pitcher.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they failed to make the playoffs again next year.

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 1:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dont forget about the other choke-rod that is now in NY

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2008 1:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And while A-Rod is certainly one of the best hitters, he certainly hasn’t done anything in the postseason.

lol.

And Damon was pretty good last year. He would have been the best hitter on the Giants by far. Matsui was good — when he wasn’t injured — and for Posada, it’s going to depend on how healthy he is.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why lol?

I know you guys heavily discount the media’s “clutch” theories, but he has made it to the playoffs a number of times, and suddenly can’t hit. Do you think it’s a coincidence? Is it impossible to think that he chokes under pressure, or struggles against the better pitchers that he faces in the playoffs?

Would I want A-Rod? Sure. But I do think it’s worth considering that he tends to struggle in the playoffs when you discuss the team being able to make it through the playoffs.

And after looking at Damon’s stats, I stand corrected, he had a solid year last year. I guess him being a pretty average player over his career and being closer to 40 than 30 played a factor in my assumption. I don’t see him matching last years’ stats, FWIW

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 1:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To be precise, ARod sucks in the division series but rakes in the LCS. So really the problem is that he needs MORE pressure.

by Evan on Dec 23, 2008 1:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All it takes is one postseason

and Bonds had only one postseason worth much

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 1:18 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously, I was going to bring up the Bonds example and how everyone was like HE SUCKS BECAUSE HE CHOKES or whatever. He had a great 2002. Do you really want to judge Bonds — or A-Rod — on less than 200 AB’s?

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fewer than 200 AB’s… computers don’t check everything apparently

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all.

by baetown415 on Dec 23, 2008 1:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, his proofreading program is fewer than perfect.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 2:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re being many more of an a-hole than I would about this.

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by Goofus on Dec 23, 2008 2:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fixed

You’re being many more further of an a-hole than I would about this

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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 23, 2008 2:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you mean

You’re being many futher of an a-hole than me.

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by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2008 2:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually I checked, he was right

You’re being many father of an a-hole than I.

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“father of an a-hole” I guess that’s sorta like “son of a bitch” ?

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Dude

Nobody’s being many father of an a-hole than you is.

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by EliminateMe on Dec 24, 2008 10:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would be careful comparing anyone to Bonds

I’m not saying it’s impossible for someone to start having successful postseasons after many unsuccessful ones, but Bonds was pretty much a freak of nature when it came to…well…everything.

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 3:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m not saying it’s impossible for someone to start having successful postseasons after many unsuccessful ones

Many? Arod had exactly two unsuccessful posteasons – 2005 and 2006. He was OK in 2007, and really good in 2004, 2000, and 1997.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 24, 2008 3:39 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess it depends what you consider unsuccessful

For someone making over $20 million, I would expect something more than these lines:

2004: .258/.378/.516 in the ALCS (did do well in the ALDS, though)
2007: .267/.353/.467

For me, that’s a count of 4 unsuccessful and 2 successful. He did do better than I thought, though, earlier in his career, which would further add to the idea that he crumpled under the pressure of the NY expectations and being a $20+ million man.

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 24, 2008 8:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball’s not like clockwork, you know. You can’t just go out and automatically hit .300 in a short series, even if you’re really, really good.

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by oldjacket on Dec 24, 2008 8:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but it’s not like he’s out of baseball for months, picks up on a short series, and is expected to hit over .300 out of the blue. The playoffs are a continuation of a 165 game season, and I think it’s reasonable to expect a person making that much money and having that much talent to continue to hit as he has during the season, which you would expect to be over .300. I realize that a short series gives a small sample size for figuring averages, but putting it over his career, he’s a sub-.300 hitter in the playoffs, which I would consider unsuccessful, especially since he should have been hitting his prime in NY.

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 24, 2008 9:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If picked out random 150s worth of at-bats from the best hitters in the history of baseball you would find quite a few that look like that or worse. I just don’t understand the bit where just because he’s a good hitter makes it a mortal lock to put up superman numbers in the postseason, and a huge disappointment if he doesn’t. Baseball just doesn’t work that way.

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by oldjacket on Dec 24, 2008 11:05 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at it this way.

If he had 4 more hits, he would be hitting his career regular season average. That’s one extra hit every 2.5 post season serieses. Say he goes all Barry Bonds 2002 Word Series on the next post season series he’s in and the Yankees lose it. He’d then be batting .299 for the playoffs. It all just depends on one series.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 24, 2008 5:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That first line is really good actually. The second one’s is definitely below average for him, but still pretty good. And, again, it’s 150 AB’s. Funky stuff happen in such a small sample size. Mike Schmidt is career .236/.304/.386 in the postseason. Diamggio hit 271/.338/.422 in 200 postseason AB’s. Mays was in the WS 4 times, and never slugged over .357. You’d never hear anyone call any of these guys unclutch.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 24, 2008 1:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In A-Rod’s post season career he’s hit:

.279/.361/.483

That’s not bad and not that far from his career line of: .306/.389/.578. His post season numbers have also come in like 147 AB’s. That’s very big.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats better than what I had thought he had done

but still…when you pay someone $25 million, I’d expect something better than that, especially with talented hitters all around him.

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 3:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Velez: .315/.344/.445 in last 146 AB this year. He’s not that player.

A Rod is not his post season career stats.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 6:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Point, Walrusman.

I think using Velez to explain SS might be the most salient point ever.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 6:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish it was more extreme of a point..

If that’s what he does during a hot streak….ouch. Of course I just tried to pick out the closes sample and 146 was it.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 6:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of course I really doubt Velez will ever get the chance to prove that SSS right or wrong anyway. He seems to be a pinch hitter/runner at best on the team as currently constructed

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 7:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you forgot designated pick-off victim

I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!
Jeremy Affeldt Ready To Make His Father Proud

by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2008 8:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I screwed up. I should had referred to him as Baron PickoffVonIronglove rather than refer to him as Velez

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 8:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

140 and 142 ERA+

seasons in the AL, is “above average”

Damon’s OPS+ last 3 seasons: 115, 97, 118. He’s still fairly athletic. That’s hardly “all about done”.

Sure the Yankees have their issues. But most teams do. The RS have issues too. Ortiz is coming off an injury riddled season, the worst season of his career in a long time. Will he rebound, or was that the start of a decline? Beckett is basically Burnett. Very talented, but injury prone and inconsistent. Bucholz looked bad in 2008. It’s questionable if Matsuzaka can sustain that ERA with the number of walks he gives up. Despite his shiny ERA, Masterson has questions about his stuff.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Dec 23, 2008 7:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t wait for later today when KNBR’s phone lines start lighting up with complaints about losing Teixeira.

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by Natto on Dec 23, 2008 12:52 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m listening to it right now and there has already been some WTF ARE THE GIANTS DOING!!!!11 callers.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 12:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As if Teixeira would’ve played her for anything less than $240M anyway.

"Tito Santana is like a cue-ball. The more you strike him, the more english you get out of him." -- Bobby Heenan

by LiquidPolio on Dec 23, 2008 12:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Y DONT GIANTS SIGN MANNY!!!! OR TEX!!! WHAT ARE THEY DOING!>@!11

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 12:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would you be against them signing Manny though?

If we could do it for three years I would be more than ok with his defensive and “intangible” shortcomings.

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Dec 23, 2008 1:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 23, 2008 1:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

>run dingers.exe

(I’m stealing Lars’ material!)

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t want Manny, no.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you don’t mind my asking, is it the defense, the contract, or the attitude that eliminates him for you?

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Dec 23, 2008 1:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can I choose all three?

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha yeah, thats an option.

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Dec 23, 2008 1:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we wanted a slugger who played LF badly...

WHY DIDN"T SIGN BONDS

ffffffffffffffffffffff

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bonds’ defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manny’s defense

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by Natto on Dec 23, 2008 1:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even more reason!

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we could have had Bonds cheap last year I would have been in favor of signing him. Especially if it meant I didn’t have to look at Dave Roberts again.

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Dec 23, 2008 1:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dave Roberts has been the most useless player ever.

He will teach the kidz how to steal bases!

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s a really nice guy, so I feel bad dissing him but seriously what the hell is he doing on this team.

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:31 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

collecting 6.5 million or so and then going home

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by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 7:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DFA……please!

I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!
Jeremy Affeldt Ready To Make His Father Proud

by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2008 8:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He also hit Randy Winn in the mouth after one of Winn’s walk-off hits in 2007

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all.

by baetown415 on Dec 23, 2008 1:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was awesome

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 23, 2008 1:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dwight looked pissed

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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 23, 2008 2:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would have been down.

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Dec 23, 2008 1:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES YOU ARE!

/Everyone else

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Dec 23, 2008 1:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TAKE THAT DEAR

Erhm…DEER

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 2:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah

The Denker bus is now bound for San Diego. Those who were passengers on it are now angrily stranded at a gas station in Modesto, CA. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now Brooks is chewing out some guy clamoring for a salary cap in baseball.

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by Natto on Dec 23, 2008 1:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Related question: How much will they have to pay in Luxury Tax next year/7 years

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 12:53 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Their luxury tax bill for last season was something like 26 million dollars.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2008 12:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn’t the Yanks drop $87M from their payroll this past off-season? Thought I heard that number tossed around. If so, these 3 FAs still wouldn’t cover that figure.

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by LiquidPolio on Dec 23, 2008 12:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

According Cot’s Baseball Contracts the Yankees are at $209,081,577 from $189,639,045, and the $209 million figure is before the Teixeira is added.

How is the Luxury Tax calculated?

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I guess they got rid of a lot of dead weight. Pavano coming off the books, Abrue, etc.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

$209M was what their opeing day salary figure was for the 2008 season, not what it is right now.

"Tito Santana is like a cue-ball. The more you strike him, the more english you get out of him." -- Bobby Heenan

by LiquidPolio on Dec 23, 2008 1:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean next year isn’t 2008?

Ooooooops.

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even if their tax figure was $50M, it wouldn’t help each individual team out much anyway. The tax threshold should be $120M, and you pay dollar for dollar after that. Maybe that would be a better deterrent.

"Tito Santana is like a cue-ball. The more you strike him, the more english you get out of him." -- Bobby Heenan

by LiquidPolio on Dec 23, 2008 1:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've heard...

that past whatever the cut off point is for first timers (like the tigers last year) that the rate is 22% of total payroll. Repeat offenders get it at 40%… or so I’ve heard

by dogdays on Dec 23, 2008 1:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Confirmed...

…by SI.com (it’s actually 22.5%, but who’s counting).

Last year’s cutoff was $155M. The Tigers owe $1.3M on a payroll of $160.8M and the Yankees owe $26.9M on a $222.2M payroll.

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by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2008 3:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yankees have new stadium

I’m not sure about the luxury tax, but I believe they don’t have to pay revenue sharing this year because of the new stadium. I remember them gloating about this recently.

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by rxmeister on Dec 23, 2008 6:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the new stadium is a huge part of the Yankees free agent spending

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 6:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fanpost!

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 12:57 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry

I figured that since it wasn’t Giants related, I’d get roasted for putting it in that section.

by boonitez on Dec 23, 2008 1:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New topic: How sad will you be when the Yankees sign Tim Lincecum for 10 years, $500M?

I’ll be very sad.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 12:59 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

='(

My morning has been ruined.

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sigh

After this offseason, this really isn’t an automatically recognizable joke. You just made me think of Tim in pinstripes. I am going to throw up now.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 1:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gtfo

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 23, 2008 1:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

some Yankee fans who posts at the mlb website has a photoshopped picture of Tim Lincecum in a Yankee uniform with the word “please?” superimposed across it. A few more years and he’s liable to get his wish.

Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season

by rxmeister on Dec 23, 2008 6:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

speaking of which

there is a salary calculator on ESPN.com where they take last season stats for lincecum and Texiera and allow you to calculate how much production they had to have before making what you make in a year. funny stuff, comparinf Lincecum’s stats vs production and Texieria’s

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 7:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’d like to nominate this for “McCoven Award Worst Post of the Year”

by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 24, 2008 1:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I vote we flash xanthan’s BIOS in retribution.

Adoptive father to the All-Father. Does that make me the All-Grandfather?

by EliminateMe on Dec 24, 2008 10:52 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That won't work

Xanthan flashes his BIOS all the time.

He is a tramp.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 24, 2008 12:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hard Discussing The Giants

And their small moves, when other teams are making big moves like this. I don’t see how the Giants will ever sign a big free agent with how th league is now. Looks like we’ll have to homegrow our own talent and pray they hate NY when they become free agents themselves.

"Tito Santana is like a cue-ball. The more you strike him, the more english you get out of him." -- Bobby Heenan

by LiquidPolio on Dec 23, 2008 1:00 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Giants don’t have the Yankees money. That means they can’t do things like sign CC and Tex.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well the Giants can sign big free agents...

But they have to make sense. We’d have to be one big star short of contender.

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personally, I find it pretty easy.

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by Natto on Dec 23, 2008 1:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t have any problems discussing the Giants

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 23, 2008 1:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m writing a Pro-Crede post right now!

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dislike Creed

The Denker bus is now bound for San Diego. Those who were passengers on it are now angrily stranded at a gas station in Modesto, CA. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too. Scott Stapp is an asshole.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:16 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He bangs Kid Rock?

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 2:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no he bangs his brother

by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 24, 2008 1:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Creed

is like a christian Nickelback. Count me out.

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Dec 23, 2008 1:31 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Office character, however, is awesome

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Dec 23, 2008 2:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nobody steals from Creed Bratton and gets away with it. The last person to do this disappeared. His name? Creed Bratton.

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by Natto on Dec 23, 2008 2:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Creed kicks Nickelback’s ass.

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 23, 2008 2:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nickleback today = Boston yesterday.

Corporate made rock.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 2:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you dare diss Boston? for shame.

next thing you know, you’ll be talking crap about Rush.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 3:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah.

Rush is good.

Boston has some nice songs, and for a first album they’re great. Perhaps I’d allow Nickelback a first album as well. But as Boston went on (and as Nickelback has gone on) they’re corporate made rock.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 6:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i will give you

that they were basically a one-album band. that one album, though, was amazing IMO.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 24, 2008 8:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True.

Their first album was great. But then they made a second one that was the same. And I haven’t listened to anything else.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 24, 2008 5:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rush is nothing but a stupid, right-wing asshole….oh not THAT Rush.

A McC newcomer but not outstanding.

by SFGuy on Dec 24, 2008 2:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

POLITIX!

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 24, 2008 8:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Other teams = Yankees?

Who else is making “big moves like this” besides NYY?

Adoptive father to the All-Father. Does that make me the All-Grandfather?

by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2008 3:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Early and Often

the Giants struck early the Yanks struck often

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 3:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude, you’re nonsequituring again.

Adoptive father to the All-Father. Does that make me the All-Grandfather?

by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2008 5:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oooo

Sounds kinky.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 6:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would help if the Giants don't make big moves like Zito.

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by rfloh on Dec 23, 2008 7:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very smart signing for the Yankees. There were only two top bats in FA this winter. The Red Sox would only be interested in signing Teixeira. So rather than let Sox sign Tex and then the Yankees counter by signing Ramirez the Yankees strike right at the weakness of the Sox and the Yankees sign Tex. This leaves the Sox without a matching transaction.

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 1:02 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The move probably means that Manny will end up back with the Dodgers. No way the Red Sox want him back.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2008 1:02 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're assuming they won't still go after Manny

while it seems inconceivable, it certainly can’t be out of the question.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 1:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how many DHs does one team need?

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bah he can play 3rd

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 1:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe Manny burned that bridge. Knocking down team secretaries and playing only when he wants to? I doubt Boston wants to go through that again.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2008 1:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ain’t gonna happen

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 1:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do you mean the red sox or yankees?

if the yankees sign manny too… wow.

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by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 23, 2008 1:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

meant the yanks

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 23, 2008 1:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if the Giants start to get close to signing Manny, you can bet the Dodgers will give him whatever he wants. All the Giants can do here is drive up his price.

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by rxmeister on Dec 23, 2008 6:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you make it sound like driving up the price for the bums is a bad thing

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 6:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now, I do not see how or why they will get Manny. Wont happen

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Jeremy Affeldt Ready To Make His Father Proud

by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2008 1:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder what annoying thing John Sterling will say when Tex hits a HR now?

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ANOTHER HOMER FOR THE TEIX-INO!!

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2008 1:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha, that really does sound like something he would say.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope it's pronounced

Tesh-een-oh

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tee ni nee ni noo

by Evan on Dec 23, 2008 1:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh-ooh-gen-eeo

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Dec 23, 2008 7:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's spelled

Adoptive father to the All-Father. Does that make me the All-Grandfather?

by EliminateMe on Dec 24, 2008 10:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s pretty hot

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all.

by baetown415 on Dec 24, 2008 11:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BREAKING NEWS

Hey, the Nats signed Corey Patterson to a minor league deal. ^ _^

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:12 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey wow he still sucks!

remember when he was like, OMG the next Carlos Beltran.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was certain after his 2003-2004 seasons he was going to breakout and be pretty good. He’s a great example of why you might want to take a walk now and then.

/looks at Pablo

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG TOTALLY UNFAIR THEY BUY ALL THE BIG STARS

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH JIM BOWDEN, YOU SPEEDY OUTFIELDER FETISHIST YOU!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 23, 2008 1:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If this is true, this is getting completely ridiculous. The free agents they signed this offseason will probably make more in 09 then some teams.

Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Dec 23, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs 

CC  $14M
AJ  $16.5M
Tex $22.5M*
------------
$53M


*Is just 8/180. He’ll probably earn a little less depending on how they structure the deal.

I have no idea what 2009 salaries will be, but $53M beats the 2008 team payrolls of the Marlins ($21M), Rays ($43M), A’s ($47M), Pirates ($49M), and almost beats the Nationals ($54M).

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

approx. $85M between 4 players in one season… yuck

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Dec 23, 2008 1:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’re paying Zito $18.5M next year.

Think about that!

…
..
.

;’(

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LALALALA I’M NOT LISTENING

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by Natto on Dec 23, 2008 1:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry
Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 1:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’ve ruined my morning twice.

T-T

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by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

plus

Jeter will make $20M
Mariano will make $15M
Posada will make $13.1M
Damon will make $13M

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 23, 2008 1:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who is paying for their new ballpark?

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 1:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's only...

about $146mil to 8 players

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Dec 23, 2008 2:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Both Zito and Rowand made about $23 million combined in 2008.

A McC newcomer but not outstanding.

by SFGuy on Dec 24, 2008 2:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cazzuno said
So much for a player salary recession as another player falls victim to the yankee empire

Tex – 8/$180M

CC- 7/$161M

AJ – 5/$82.5

Salary for 2009 for 3 FA =$62 Million. Blue Jays now get a 3rd Rd Pick for losing Burnett and Brewers a 2nd and Rangers a 1st.

Is this even fair anymore? I understand winning at all costs and i wish the Giants did that (sometimes). But this is just getting ridiculous. I wonder what the Yankees will do next year if they dont make the playoffs?

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by Natto on Dec 23, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Angels get the Yankees first round pick for signing Teixeira

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2008 1:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So what are the Angels going to do for a first baseman now? Move an outfielder there?

by Evan on Dec 23, 2008 1:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They just locked up Juan Rivera for three years, he’s played first hasn’t he?

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Er, maybe not. BB-Ref says he’s played 1 game there in his career. I think I was confusing his DH’ing with 1B.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's like 1B

But with even less defense!

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 1:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If John Bowker was a DH, would he still commit errors?

whoa.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure he can play every position with the same alarming lack of mobility

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lack of mobility is one of the five tools!

Side topic: Most immobile player you’ve ever seen? Damon Minor always looked like he was swimming in jello when he moved around.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on Defense or in general?

Bengie Molina runs like he is jello. Lots of jiggling, but no movement.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All around, defense, offense, whatever.

Molina is a good pick. I love watching him hit doubles.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My wife (not really a Giants fan) said watching Molina run was the only entertaining thing that happened during Giants games early last year.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 1:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s all chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-toot-toot-chugga-chugga when he’s running. My dream scenario is to watch him hit a ball into ‘triples alley’.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 23, 2008 1:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Merry Christmas!

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Dec 23, 2008 2:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow..

Really turns it on there after rounding 2nd.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 23, 2008 2:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Randy Winn just owns the Astros.

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by oldjacket on Dec 23, 2008 2:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs