Pablo Sandoval / Jesus Guzman

by NJchamps on Dec 2, 2008 11:06 AM PST Comment 40 comments

At this point, in the Venezuelan winter league, those two kids are competing against to each other for the ROY and MVP awards for that league.

What they are doing is simply phenomenal. Pablo Sandoval broke the record for most home runs by a rookie in a single season and Jesus Guzman is killing the baseball having one of the most complete season ever by any player in that league, he's withing the bests in all the offensive categories not mentioning that he's had two grand slams, hit for the cycle, had an game with 8 rbis, a walk off homer and 8 consecutive hits at one point of the season and chasing the record for most rbis in a single season.

You might say " it's a weaker league"..don't get fooled, a lot of MLB players are there right now, it's an exciting league with passionate fans, a lot of pressure and pride involved, specially for the teams they play for witch is the big rivalry.

People have been expecting that kind of offensive explosion from those two kids and it's getting there, the ultimate goal, show that potential and develop it in the big show. They will go together to the spring training and won't be a surprise to see them playing with the Giants and doing some damage.

Brilliant careers awaits for them.

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Brilliant careers?

I dunno, but I’ll be happy with “pretty decent”.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
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by Natto on Dec 2, 2008 11:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

i believe the VWL also offers a PhD program.

by druncan on Dec 2, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

a pox on you!

they are working on the Hall of Fame plaques as we speak!

by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 2, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I’ll be happy with pretty okay

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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 2, 2008 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I liked Steve Kline, I want something better from Pablo.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Dec 2, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Pablito clavo un clavito

Glad to see Pablito clavoing. The brother sure can hack. And can play some 3b.

Word is Jesus will not be coming to San Francisco. But we all knew that. Heathens. Word is he will be taken in the Rule 5 draft on December 7.

by wilriv21 on Dec 2, 2008 11:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Jesus Guzman

Good chance he gets taken, not so good chance he sticks on a 25 man roster. My bet is that he will be returned to us at the end of Spring Training.

by nelson95 on Dec 2, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Being the best hitter in a hitters league is still damn good.

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by oldjacket on Dec 2, 2008 11:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Does a brilliant career await Eliezer Alfonzo?

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 2, 2008 11:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Jose Castillo is OPS’ing over 1.000 in the VWL. Edgar Alfonzo is OPS’ing over .900!

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 2, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Edgar Alfonzo?

Is that a typo or is Edgar Alfonzo actually hitting that.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 2, 2008 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yup, Edgardo is hitting well in the VWL.

You can some stats here:

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=l_bat&sid=l135&lid=135

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 3, 2008 5:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Eliezer Alfonzo

Alfonzo is also having a good season but he got hurt although nothing to be worry about.

Quite honest, I don’t se Alfonzo playing regularly in the big leagues, I do see Pablo Sandoval wit a nice carreer with San Francisco, he knows how to hit, some people compare him and actually calls him “Big Papi Jr” ‘cause he’s smaller, but he sure knows how to hit for power and BA. The only thing that I see following these two guys is that Pablo has to learn to be more patience specially with the fastball up in the middle, but he’ll correct and work on that, order than that, there’s no other weak zone for him, Guzman is just a hitting machine with ocasionally power but most important, he ’s a cluth hitter and loves big moments.

Another guy who is having a nice season is Jose castillo who plays with Guzman and Vizquel for the same team (Caracas Lions)

by NJchamps on Dec 2, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 2, 2008 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Pablo has raked no matter where he plays.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2008 11:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

THIS

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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 2, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

For..

the last few years at least.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 2, 2008 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

the last few years = this year.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 3, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, color me confused

Setting aside the fact that Jesus Guzman isn’t particularly a kid (next year will be his age 25 season), is he not still in the A’s system? He certainly was during the 2008 season (split between Midland and Sacramento IIRC).

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Dec 2, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think he signed with us as a minor league free agent. Most think he’ll get picked up during the Rule 5 Draft.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 2, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, I totally missed that.

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Dec 2, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Here’s a link about it.

/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 2, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I hope he doesn’t get taken via Rule 5 since I adopted him and the nickname I gave him wouldn’t work with other teams.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 2, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe Jesus Colome is still available?

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by Lyle on Dec 2, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If we draft Guzman with our Rule 5 pick

can we just return him to ourselves if he doesn’t make the 25 man roster?

I guess if we were going to go to all that trouble we would have protected him on the 40 man to begin with. But is it legal?

by Goat on Dec 2, 2008 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

In 1988, the Braves drafted a player from themselves. They neglected to protect righthander Ben Rivera on the 40-man roster, had the first pick in the draft and took him.

by wilriv21 on Dec 2, 2008 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know. I don’t really want to give us the 25,000 dollars. Money’s a little tight right now.

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by groug on Dec 2, 2008 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I shudder to think how we would then spend it!

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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 3, 2008 9:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The title is misleading

Pablo Sandoval IS Jesus

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by S.F. Giangst on Dec 2, 2008 5:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but who is this Guzman fellow?

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by FairweatherFan on Dec 2, 2008 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You jinxed them!!

they both went hitless tonight because of your post. (0 for 3) Sandoval got a walk though, and has now walked 5 times in his last 10 games. Is he being more patient, or are these walks intentional??

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by rxmeister on Dec 2, 2008 8:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Anyone have a link..

of our signing of Guzman? I remember seeing some link of some A’s blog or something saying we signed him, but does anybody have something official from like mlb.com or the giants website, or a newspaper.

because rotoworld still has him on the A’s, and his mlb.com profile has his ‘parent club’ as oakland too.

by kvdp12 on Dec 2, 2008 8:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Scroll up or go here.

by Natto on Dec 2, 2008 10:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome

Thank you

by kvdp12 on Dec 3, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Walks

They both went hitless because it was a tight game until the seventh, it was a pitching duel, however I’ve seen that the are being pitched different. More careful and they are not seeing anything good to hit

Regarding if Guzman is a Giant, He said it himself in an interview when he was signed

by NJchamps on Dec 3, 2008 6:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

o he wasnt talking metaphorically?

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by foothillsfan on Dec 3, 2008 9:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Could Guzman be the next Cantu? Are they at all similar?

I can haz homerunz!

by jbowl on Dec 3, 2008 11:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Pretty hard to say. When Cantu was Guzman’s age, he was already in his 3rd major league season, having played roughly 250 games. He’d even received an MVP vote. And this despite having his development having hit a massive three year detour in the Southern League, where he performed pretty terribly from ages 19-21. But the next year in AAA he suddenly found his power stroke.

In this Guzman is something like Cantu. He too struggled through a couple of pretty bad AA campaigns (in the Texas League for him), and then the next year suddenly blossomed as a power hitter. The big difference was that Guzman blossomed after being sent down and repeating A+ ball, and consequently his two best seasons have come a) when he was old for his league (23 in A+ and 24 in AA) and b) when he was repeating levels (his second shot at A ball, his third at AA).

Taking age completely out of the picture, there is some similarity to their progression stats wise and Guzman could certainly be a late blooming power hitter of value, but that is a pretty big element to take completely out of the picture.

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Dec 3, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you Roger.

I can haz homerunz!

by jbowl on Dec 3, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Jesus Guzman 49 games, 179 ab , 65 hits, 15 2b, 3 3b, 11hrs, 57 rbis ( just tied record with most rbis in a single season with 15 games left to play ), 28 walks, 28 so, 363 ave ( played for the Venezuelan team against Dominican Republic on December 9th and hit a home run with two rbis )

Pablo Sandoval 45 games, 168 ab, 64 hits, 12 hrs, 29 rbis, 381 ave ( winner of home run derby on Dec 15th, connected 18 hrs to defeat Miguel Cabrera in the final )

by NJchamps on Dec 17, 2008 8:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs