Furcal to Braves
Of course, it's a "source" of Ken Rosenthal's....still a 3/30 deal? Wasn't the A's deal better? At least this means Sabean can't sign him.
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I wonder if this means they’ll send Yunel to SD in a Peavy trade? I know that trade is supposed to be dead but I think they could trade Yunel somewhere.
/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 16, 2008 8:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yunel to SD
That makes a lot of sense. Escobar is a really nice all-around player, and the Pads could definitely use the help at short in in that lineup. What do you guys think that the Braves would have to throw in besides Escobar to land a blue chipper like Peavy?
And it looks like the Braves offered Furcal 4/40
by biff pocoroba on Dec 16, 2008 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Who would want to sign with the A’s!?
/elitism
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 16, 2008 9:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I know..
That’s one thing that he just basically did not want to sign with the A’s at all.
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by WalrusMan on Dec 16, 2008 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am shocked that the tour that Beane gave of the Oakland Coliseum did not persuade Furcal!!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2008 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“And here’s some lovely concrete…and some barbed wire….and some broken glass.”
/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 16, 2008 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“And this is Oakland! I would live somewhere else.”
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 16, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who says an unkind word about Oakland has to answer to me.
Of course, the part of town the Coliseum is in isn’t the best spot.
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by jcb9 on Dec 16, 2008 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, if only they'd cruised through Temescal.
Lord knows Frank Thomas signed with Oakland for the keggers with CCA kids.
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by multiphasic on Dec 16, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm. Y’see, I live in Temescal, but I think of CCA as being Rockridge. As normally defined, Temescal doesn’t extend east past Telegraph Ave. or so.
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by jcb9 on Dec 17, 2008 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/runs for his life
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 16, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The city government is a clown car of stupidity. Same can be said of SF’s city government, though.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 16, 2008 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what you’re talking about, the Oakland City Council has solved the greatest problem and threat faced by the city and its residents: styrofoam
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
After three years living in Chicago, it’s hard for me to see any other city’s government as bad.
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by jcb9 on Dec 16, 2008 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
every city's government is pretty bad
it is the nature of government
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 17, 2008 12:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
maybe he wants to play for a Major League organization; one that has all of their games televised, plays in a Major League ballpark, and has the corporate sponsorships and revenue streams of a Major League franchise.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think A's fans are going to look back and say, " Thank goodness that never happened. And just what was I thinking?"
I also think the pursuit was a very good sign. They have need and ownership was not adverse to risking some coin in an effort to improve the on field product.
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by daveinexile on Dec 16, 2008 10:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yunel to the Giants
and Renteria to 3B, with Pablo moving to 1B.
Done.
Hector Sanchez: really getting tired of playing baseball in foreign countries...
by tedfordfan on Dec 16, 2008 10:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
OR
Renteria moving to second, Pablo staying at third
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by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like yunel is staying put. kelly johnson moves to LF, furcal plays 2nd.
by TimLincecumIsGod on Dec 16, 2008 10:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
they’re going to waste Furcal’s arm at second?
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by jponry on Dec 16, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they should move Yunel to 2nd. Man, that would be one hell of a middle infield
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d keep Yunel at SS, he was one of the better defenders at SS last year (plus/minus went crazy for him, bUZR said he was above average). I think it probably makes sense to trade Escobar for something good, if they can swing it.
/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 16, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if they would do Sanchez plus a pitching prospect? i would love to have Yunel.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. I have no clue as to what the Braves need. I’d flip them Sanchez and Sosa for Yunel in a heartbeat.
I really like Escobar.
/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 16, 2008 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
could Sanchez, Lewis, and Sosa get it done? They are pretty desperate for OFs (especially if they trade Yunel and thus don’t put Kelly Johnson out there).
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know, I suck at rosterbation. I would think it might take another player?
They’ll use Escobar in a Peavy trade before they move him anywhere else.
/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 16, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a good point
this (along with missing out on Burnett) probably puts the Peavy trade back on as a major possibility for them.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they could take Rowand off our hands? Wishful thinking I know… but they do need a CF. And Johnson’s defense in LF would probably be good.
Maybe Sanchez and Rowand for Gorkys Hernandez and 2 of 3 of Locke/Rohrborough/Teheran? I’m assuming Hanson, Heyward, and Schaefer wouldn’t be on the table if there was a discussion for just Rowand and Sanchez…
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by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*Rohrbough, excuse me
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by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
can we stop with all of this trading Rowand
Even if there was a team out there that might be willing to take on Rowand’s contract (which there is not) there is no way the Giants are going to trade him one year after signing him to a long term deal. As I asked in another thread: give me an example of a team signing somebody to a long term contract and then trading him within a year (the only example we could come up with was Carlos Delgado). I can just see the Giants trying to negotiate with free agents in the future “so, are you actually going to honor my contract, or are you going to trade me as soon as your plans change?”
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wishful thinking
Trading Winn would be more realistic, but I highly doubt the two FO’s are talking. I just like thinking about not having Rowand’s years 4 and 5 on the books over here….
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by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2008 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess wishful thinking is ok. Let’s trade Aaron Rowand, and Pablo Sandoval is just as good as Russell Martin!
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahhaah, you mean let’s trade Matt Cain and Jonathan Sanchez for Prince Fielder?
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by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well, with the whole “Pablo Sandoval is just as good as Russell Martin” line of thinking, why should we even give up Cain or Sanchez? Why not Lowry for Fielder?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Frandsen for Yunel Escobar?
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by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yunel Escobar is no more valuable than Frandsen
signed,
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by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
You said “swing it”.
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by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Second year in a row Sabean bit on a SS early in the process and possibly signed the wrong guy. Furcal at 3yrs/$30MM is a very good signing for Atlanta.
by wilriv21 on Dec 16, 2008 12:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Renteria’s deal is shorter and without the health risks. Maybe Furcal just didn’t want to play in the bay area? Oakland was offering another year and $10M extra and he went back to Atlanta.
/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 16, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like
Furcal either wanted to stay in LA or go back to Atlanta the whole time.
by Hobbes2d on Dec 16, 2008 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It might have been a NL/AL thang
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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was more that he just didn't want to play in Oakland
All kidding aside, it’s not a very desirable situation, they are a low revenue team that plays in a terrible stadium in front of some of the smallest crowds in the league, their Fremont Stadium plan is all but dead, they are a 2nd team in a market that is barely capable of supporting two teams, and they don’t even have a full television contract
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 16, 2008 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind.
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