Jake Peavy / Ben Sheets
by gore51 on Dec 14, 2008 8:02 PM PST
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Do you think there is any chance the Giants could explore entering the Jake Peavy sweepstakes? I hear that he is willing to waive his no-trade clause to come to SF but: 1) Do the giants have what it takes to bring him here (I was thinking an Aaron Rowand and Jonathan Sanchez offer)? and 2) Would the Padres be willing to trade within the division?
If that doesn't work out, do you think the Giants and Ben Sheets could work out a highly incentive, low base-salary, short year contract as a hold over for some of the prospects to season in the minors?
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Did You Bother To See We Already Have 2 Fanposts on Jake?
by giantsrainman on Dec 14, 2008 8:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You are pondering what I am pondering….
I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!
by Giant among Angels on Dec 14, 2008 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Christmas break comes earlier and earlier every year…
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 14, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So you can’t stop pondering about Adrian Gonzales too?
by kaliber on Dec 15, 2008 12:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah (heh)
The Padres are not looking to take big contracts back for Peavy. Rowand is a non-starter.
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 14, 2008 8:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
1) Sure they have what it takes, but it’ll take probably 2/4 of our top 4 prospects plus some. Sanchez is not enough to get him, and Rowand at this point drags down his value, especially to the Padres who are looking to shed salary.
2) Sure, i they get the pieces.
I’d like to get Ben Sheets, but you’d probably have to put in vesting options for every year. Probably something along the lines of…
2nd year vests @ 100 IP
3rd year vests @ 175 IP
4th year vests @ 175 IP
And he’s probably going to demand a bit for those seasons. I’d rather have Randy Johnson on a one year deal. This really is the only deal I want to make this season.
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by WalrusMan on Dec 14, 2008 8:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I envision Sheets going to NYY if Pettitte doesn’t come calling back and accept $10m. Although I have heard (I think Buster Olney) say that they are now in the Tex sweepstakes. If that is true then they might or might not go for Sheets. Or they are putting their name in the Tex raffle to push the price higher for the Red Sox..
I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!
by Giant among Angels on Dec 14, 2008 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe..
The Yankees can make any more huge moves on the free agent market. They’re paying way too much already for players. although if I’m looking at it right they’re probably around last year’s payroll even with adding Burnett and Sabathia.
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by WalrusMan on Dec 14, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
endless money
but remember, george steinbrenner is tied for being the 377th richest american
by gore51 on Dec 14, 2008 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe they freed up ~$88m from expired contracts and also more will be freed up after 09. Plus they are tired of losing. I don’t see them signing Tex, just screwing with the Red Sox. I dont see why they couldn’t afford Sheets though.
I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!
by Giant among Angels on Dec 14, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, with CC and Burnett they’re about $15m below last year’s payroll and they’ve said that they don’t want to increase payroll. Sheets would be a reasonable signing, as would Lowe. Tex doesn’t really fit their financial structure. He’d fit in their lineup, sure (Jeter, Cano, Rodriguez, Posada, Cabrera, Damon, Swisher, Nady and Matsui), but their bigger problem is catcher.
by cornball on Dec 14, 2008 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they already offered 10 million dollars to Andy Pettitte to come back for one year, and he’s thinking about it. If he comes back, the rotation is set, and they won’t be signing any more starters. CC, AJ, Wang, Pettitte and Joba. I would use Joba out of the bullpen again, but that’s not their plan.
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by rxmeister on Dec 15, 2008 5:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of money off the books
It’s true, the Yankees freed up about $88mil, as you said. Rough estimate on CC + Burnett is about $40mil/yr, which means they still have about $48mil to play with. That’s plenty to sign another top pitcher, Teixiera and hand out a contract equivalent to the one Ibanez just got (Mike Cameron, perhaps).
I don’t think they do all three. Believe it or not, some people are estimating a 10% drop in payroll for 2009 for the Yankees.
by CaliforniaSoulPatch on Dec 15, 2008 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
pass
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
by baetown415 on Dec 14, 2008 8:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
McCoven Can't Stop Thinking About Jake Peavy
by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2008 8:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cain for Peavy?
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 14, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez and Rowand for Peavy?
oh yes, I’m all for this! Unfortunately, for a trade to occur, both team must agree to it.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 14, 2008 8:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
SanchezZito and Rowand for Peavy?
Looks much better, damn the realism
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Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
by baetown415 on Dec 14, 2008 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 14, 2008 8:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
by baetown415 on Dec 14, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 14, 2008 10:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t say a thing!
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by WalrusMan on Dec 15, 2008 7:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s actually the first facepalm I found searching at altavista
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 15, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Altavista?! That’s pretty old school.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Dec 15, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I figured the google image search has been overused, so I had to go retro…I also used it for my sig since I inexplicably took German in High School.
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 15, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bald Captains united in their disgust!
Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's contract.
by thehavenot on Dec 14, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that you?
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
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by baetown415 on Dec 14, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TURN THIS GREEN
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 14, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A moment in the life
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Dec 14, 2008 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you spying on me!?
I need a haircut.
by withclubsauce on Dec 14, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much worship this one Natto.
Fairley odd parent to Wendell
by WTF on Dec 15, 2008 7:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Peavy & Gonzales
I don’t think that there are many qualified suitors for Peavy. I’d be interested, but I’d insist on getting Adrain Gonzales too. I know the Angels tried this and were rebuffed, but given the ownership situation I’d stay close, and hope that the other potential trades continue to fall apart. As far as what we’d have to offer? Sanchez to begin with. I’d hate to part with him because I think he could grow into a spectacular number two, but you have to give value to get it. I’d also offer ISHI-K, either Henry Sosa or Kevin Pucetas, and at least one other maybe Buriss. The Giants don’t have to mave a great offer only the best available one. From what I understand the pool of competing teams is pretty narrow, and with the Paders ownership situation the preasure to cut payroll should only increase. If the Giants can’t get it done for something like this, I would not do it. I don’t want to give away the store.
by Sblantonus2002 on Dec 14, 2008 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Burriss
Sosa
Ishikawa
Sanchez
for Jake Peavy, AND Adrian Golnzalez?
CLOWNSHOES
by lincysgiants on Dec 14, 2008 10:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so you want to add an ace in his prime and a young slugging 1B…..but you dont want to give away the store? Ishi, Sosa, Sanchez and Burris? I doubt that would land either one of them and certainly not both.
by sam23 on Dec 14, 2008 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
for serious
"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."
by GameSix on Dec 15, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I say we keep Burriss and Sanchez
Make it just Sosa and Ishikawa. Sosa is going to be the next Peavy (if not better) and Ishikawa will be just like Gonzalez except with better defense.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 14, 2008 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sosa is going to be the next peavy? ishikawa just like gonzalez?
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by dave mustaine on Dec 15, 2008 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry…Adrian Gonzalez and his glove of gold will catch you.
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 15, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Angels have the prospects to get Peavy
and they may try to, if they miss out on Texeira.
Peavy would have to agree to go to them, an AL team.
The Giants, don’t have the goods to get him, as the Padres want a MLB ready SS and young MLB-ready starters. We just don’t have that to give away to a division rival who’s dug themselves into a huge PR/player personnel hole.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 14, 2008 10:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hugh? We Actually Have Better Prospects To Offer Then The Angels
You are living in the past when our farm system sucked. We are now top 5 and the Angels are no longer top 5.
by giantsrainman on Dec 14, 2008 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but ours our low level guys. We dont have a ML ready young SS to deal, the Angels do.
by sam23 on Dec 15, 2008 1:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Padres aren’t winning the west next year. If they were smart they would prefer prospects for AA and AAA
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
by rxmeister on Dec 15, 2008 5:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And if we were smart
we’d hold on to ours
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2008 5:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We have a really top heavy system, the Angels still have good amount of depth in theirs.
by oldjacket on Dec 15, 2008 7:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
alright, who’s on Noob Patrol?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 14, 2008 10:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I Love Jake
Since his rookie season in SD, and would be thrilled if the Giants pursued him…..
However, giving up Rowand is dumb because let’s face it, he’s one of our best hitters and we can’t give that up right now since we struggle offensively.
I will trade for Peavy at the expense for some of our other pitchers, or young position players possibly still in the minors.
Although I’m skeptical of giving away Sanchez, i wouldnt mind packaging him with someone else for Jake
There are many options, but I was wondering the same thing…. Why havn’t the Giants pursued Peavy??/
by Carmelballin on Dec 15, 2008 12:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
oh come on Natto, perfect opportunity for that latest drawing……again. Or is there a rule about using it twice in one thread?
by sam23 on Dec 15, 2008 1:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ummmm…..sarchasm? thats the only explantion I can think of for this.
by sam23 on Dec 15, 2008 1:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to log on to MLBTR and read:
“The Padres and Giants almost had a deal in place, but Sabean balked when the Padres demanded that Aaron Rowand be involved.”
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2008 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt they trade within the division
Mlbtraderumors.com had a report today that the Giants tried to trade for Khalil Greene before he was traded to the Cardinals. It’s pretty obvious that those talks didn’t get very far, or else we would have heard something previously. If the Padres preferred to ship a stiff like Greene out of their division, you know they won’t want to send the Giants a number one starter.
Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season
by rxmeister on Dec 15, 2008 5:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
glad that fell through
If he plays good against us, he’ll play good for us. Huh-hulk!
/facepalm.
by oldjacket on Dec 15, 2008 7:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they might bite...
if you throw in Zito
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Dec 15, 2008 6:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to comment on Jake Peavey, but for the life of me I can’t stop thinking about Adrian Gonzalez.
by biff pocoroba on Dec 15, 2008 9:10 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
I rec'd this...particularly because you're apparently so preoccupied with Sr. Gonzalez that you forgot how to spell Mr. Peavy's name!
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Dec 15, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jake does make some sweet amps though!
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 15, 2008 6:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to resurrect “A plea to the McCoven” before our heads collectively explode.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Dec 15, 2008 9:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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