Wigginton Anyone?
The Stros didn't tender a contract to Ty Wigginton.
Sabes better on the phone with Wigginton's agent now that he's a free agent. He's a better player then Cantu and we could still keep Sanchez and our prospects.
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Why?
All this would accomplish is to send Ishikawa to Fresno without improving the corner infield offense or defense so what would be the point?
by giantsrainman on Dec 12, 2008 8:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
to play man 3rd base and hit vs LHP.
a year older then Phelps and plays more positions.Its intresting as a1 year stop gap to take up arround 700 – 800 innings at third.
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by daveinexile on Dec 12, 2008 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As Grant mentioned today, the Giants are almost certain to sign some sort of 3B backup plan, and I’d rather have Wigginton than Aurillia.
by mxmob33 on Dec 12, 2008 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ishegunnabunt? ishegunnabunt? NOOO!
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by Mike Hawk on Dec 12, 2008 10:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RIchie Will Come At A Price At Or Under $2M
Wigginton will cost at least twice that much and will be looking for alot more ABs then I want to promise to our bench corner infielder. I am fine with Aurilia exclusively in a backup role.
I do agree with Grant that Phelps is most likely screwed becuase we do need at backup corner infielder that can play both corner spots. If the Giants were sure they could count on Frandsen to backup 3B this would not be so but I understand why they are unwilling to depend up Kevin.
Now if somehow Wigginton can come as cheaply as Aurilia and as willing to except a purely backup only role then and only then would I reconsider.
by giantsrainman on Dec 12, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but Aurilia likely wont be in an exclusively backup role. I’m more OK with Wigg than I am with Aurilia. Doesnt Wigg have a pretty decent glove?
by sam23 on Dec 13, 2008 12:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Richie's Glove Is Way Better Then Wigginton's
RIchie is far more likely to be in an exclusively backup role the Wigginton. Wigginton won’t sign if this is all he is promised. Richie will.
by giantsrainman on Dec 13, 2008 1:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Way better glove? really? I agree Wigg wont sign unless he’s promised the bulk of the 3b AB’s but with Bochy at the helm Richie will get almost as many.
by sam23 on Dec 13, 2008 1:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Buy The Bochy Prefers Vets Line Of Thinking
Richie got the ABs he got last year because he was then the best option available. He will not get these ABs this year because we now have better alternatives in Sandoval and Ishikawa.
by giantsrainman on Dec 13, 2008 1:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yea I know what youre saying, but my line of thinking isnt so much that
Bochy prefers vets as it is Bochy loves Aurilia. I’m not totally against brininging Richie back, I guess I just slightly prefer Wigg and slightly prefer Crede to both of them. And greatly prefer Beltre to any of the 3.
by sam23 on Dec 13, 2008 3:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that a couple of teams are going to be willing to promise Wigginton a starting job, while the best the Giants can say is maybe. I don’t think he’ll want to sign here. He’ll look for a starting job in a friendlier ballpark.
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by rxmeister on Dec 13, 2008 4:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Calling B.S.
Rainman name one case were Bochy reduced playing time of a slumping vet in teh last year.
Or name one case were a kid got to play more then 1 game a week when the vet was not already achored to the trainners table?
I’l take my answers off air.
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by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2008 8:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
let’s be fair.
Vizquel lost playing time to Burriss and . . .
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by oldjacket on Dec 13, 2008 8:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
after how long on he DL?
The same could be said of Lewis’ playng time as well.
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by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2008 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vizqueel only lost playing time after months and months and months and months of being awful, though.
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by jcb9 on Dec 13, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey now..
So if we count every “months” as just two months, that means that Vizquel lost playing time after 8 months of being awful. That’s as many months as there are in a season.
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by WalrusMan on Dec 13, 2008 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
After Ishikawa Was Call Up
Richie’s playing time was reduced greatly as Bochy was giving most of it to Sandoval and Ishikawa. I fully expect the same to be true all year in 2009.
by giantsrainman on Dec 13, 2008 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A) Sabean statements they would be playing the kids have nothing to do with that. Is your contention the it was soully Bochey’s choice?
B) Joe Castle was moved off third ( then the roster) so Aurilia still had steady playing time
Month – Aurilia’s PA’s
March/ April – 75
May -74
June – 84
July – 70
August – 71
Sept/Oct -66
If you hypotheses was true Travis "stole" a mighty 10 Pa’s from Aurilia’s play time.
C) Considering Travis first MLB game of ‘08 was Aug 14th.
Also care to guess the last day Joe Castle played as a Gaint? Aug 12. So Travis was taking Castle’s time and spot not the veteran Aurilia’s. His playing time was never in the slightest of jeopardy form Travis.
Look desperately want to think Bochey will run a merit based team. But I have seen nothing encourage that he will. After 2 season and over 180 losses there should be at least one example that would not fly in the face of facts on record.
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by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2008 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LInk to suppoert Travis’ call up date.
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by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This Falls To Account For The Number Team Games In These Months
July had the Allstar Break while August and Sept/Oct had the least off days of any of six months.
Yes Richie still got playing time with Sandoval caught and against some lefties but both Sandoval and Ishikawa got more then Richie after TI was brought up.
by giantsrainman on Dec 13, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ignoring the fact does not change the fact.
Rain man if he is getting the same P.A’s in Sept as he did in in every month but June he is getting the same amount of playing time before Travis call up as after it.
Travis was never competing with Aurlia in ’08. Period. Look at his play dates and Castles. It was Travis vs. Castle the whole way.
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by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RIchie Was The Backup At Both 1B And 3B
to Ishikawa and Sandoval once TI was added to the roster. That will be the same in 2009. RIchie was a platoon partner to Bowker and the backup of Castillo when they were both starting. This is the factual difference that you are ignoring.
by giantsrainman on Dec 13, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
False allegations without a shred to back them up. I expected better from you.
Those facts are accounted for by supplying the P.A.‘s Aurilia had Month by Month including the months before August. Aurilia Averaged 75.75 Pa’s a month before August 1 and his 71 P.A’s in August ad 66 P.A’s are not much a drop. Maybe around 10 P.A’s when both months are combined or 5 P.A.’s per months. 2 games which can be very easily attributed to fatigue, injury, or scheduling.
Just for fun lets work the other end of the equation.
We know Sandoval had 44 P.A.‘s has a catcher and another 7 P.A.s has a bench hitter. So 51 of those P.A.’s are not relevant to "The Aurilia lost playing time discussion".But 103 P.A.‘s of his 154 P.A.’s are relevant. Almost 67%.
So in August Pablo had almost 39 P.A.‘s (58 * .67) and Ishikawa had 65 P.A.’s for a total of 104 P.A.‘s
In September/October Sandoval had 64 P.A’s (96 * .67) and Ishikawa had 58 P.A.‘s for a total of 122 P.A’s.
Consider Castle had 107P.A’s in March/April, 99 P.A.‘s in May, 106P.A.’s in June That is were playing time came from not from the vet.
Your Hypotheses is shattered man. Let it have decent burial. It was noble dream. The powers that be just never allowed it to happen. If you want to resurrect the Hypotheses in the future please supply some numbers ( at some thing more the rhetoric 101 the first semester tricks barely covered in feelings) to debunk those posted above else I will have to view the same was I view my Betty Page Fantasies – Nice but never did happen and never will happen.
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by daveinexile on Dec 14, 2008 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What Is Your Problem?
Why is so hard to understand that different months have different amounts of games played and thus different amounts of ABs available at the corner infield spots? If the year are more games in August and Sept/October then any other months in the season then there are also more ABs available in this months. If Richie Has his fewest ABs in these two months then any other two months and these two months have the most ABs available then clearly Richie’s playing time has been reduced.
by giantsrainman on Dec 14, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chief Wiggum references would shoot through the roof!
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by xanthan on Dec 12, 2008 8:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take Wigginton for next to nothing, mostly because I am one of those who doesn’t believe in Pablo Sandoval at 3B. Yes, I know Wiggington is not the 2nd coming of Brooks Robinson at 3B, but I think Sandoval would be a lot worse. I still think I would rather have Crede for $5 million than Wigginton for $2 million.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 12, 2008 9:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And I Would Rather Just Play Both Sandoval And Ishikawa
then accept the level either of these offer at the cost of not finding out if Sandoval can man 3B fulltime and Ishikawa can man 1st fulltime. Let us try finding out rather then assuming they can’t.
by giantsrainman on Dec 12, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We will just have to wait to see how Pablo does at third in Spring Training to really have an idea if this is a good idea or not
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 12, 2008 9:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Ish at first and Pablo at third, but we all know Brian Sabean better than that. Somebody else will be here by the start of spring training, be it Burrell, Crede, Wigginton, or Aurilia.
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by rxmeister on Dec 13, 2008 4:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And again I completely agree with you FLS.
/Not too sure about Pablo at third either
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 12, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Giants should target him
not a bad idea to sign him to a short term (1 yr/$2-3M + option) just in case the Pablo 3b experiment doesn’t work out. He’s a right-handed power hitter, which would play well in AT&T. He shouldn’t cost a lot, plays sufficient defense (and is versatile) and kills left-handed pitching (against which Pablo isn’t as good). He certainly won’t be blocking our 3b of the future as Pablo isn’t that.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 12, 2008 10:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
go for it!
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by The Thrill on Dec 12, 2008 10:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
reasonable expectations
.270/.330 with 20 bombs and 75 RBI’s with a decent glove? eh, I’ll take it, could signing a 3B like Wigg or Crede maybe mean its Holm who goes down instead of Phelps?
by sam23 on Dec 13, 2008 12:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If Wigginton played for the Giants last year
he would have led the team in slugging an OPS, and been 3rd on the team in OBP. It’s not a perfectly fair comparison because Wiggy played 81 games at Minute Maid, but the dude can definitely hit. Check out these stats, he had an OPS+ of 128 last year, and has been over 100 each of the last 4 years.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 13, 2008 1:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I Think Both Sandoval And Ishikawa Can Do The Same
and I would much rather give them the chance to do so. This is after all what one is supose to do to develope one’s prospects. Wigginton is no Adrian Gonzalez. He is not worth getting to block one of our best young hitters.
by giantsrainman on Dec 13, 2008 1:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wiggington really needs to be used only against lefties. Phelps is the one he would likely block, or they could platoon him with Sandoval at third. Sandington and Ishiphelps at the corners!
by oldjacket on Dec 13, 2008 7:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sandington and Ishiphelps
Sounds like British detective show.
Or at least it does to me.
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by Cookyman on Dec 13, 2008 8:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you can think Sandoval and Ishikawa can do the same all you want
but it is pretty Goddam unlikely (for Ishikawa it is just utter madness). I just can’t wrap my head around the fact that everybody is so on board with turing an overweight catcher into a third baseman, this should not even be seen as an option.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 13, 2008 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One things that comes to mind with regards to signing Wiggington/Crede, is the possibilty of one of them & trading Molina. That would stop Sandoval/Ishikawa from losing playing time, it’d maximise the value of Sandoval & it’d improve the team in the short term, without any impact on the long term.
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by GiantFan on Dec 13, 2008 3:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i meant to add, there’s obviously no chance that’ll happen, so it’s purely hypothetical.
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by GiantFan on Dec 13, 2008 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This feels like the Jose Cruz, Jr. deal from 2003. The Giants have an obvious need at a position, and another team cuts loose a good player at that position.
Wigginton could get 500 at-bats between 3B/1B/2B and LF/RF, he’s on the correct side of our platoon need, and he isn’t going to get a three- or four-year deal. He’s like Josh Phelps, but better, and with the ability to play third. If the Giants signed him, I would be ecstatic. But I don’t think they will. And if they did, I don’t think they’d use him like we’d hope; they’d just park him at third. That would ultimately displace Ishikawa, which wouldn’t break me up too terribly, but it is a concern.
by Grant on Dec 13, 2008 9:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I too would be ecstatic
I don’t really like his home/road splits from last year, but he has been good on the road in the past. And even if he was terrible, it’s not like he’d cost us anything. He plays third, which is a position of dire need for us. It’s a low risk, medium reward move, so why not? We lose no prospects and at worst we burn a few mil. I think this partnered with a Burrell signing would give us a mediocre-looking lineup. Bengie wouldn’t be cleanup anymore!!!
by boonitez on Dec 13, 2008 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s also kinda like Aurilia in that he’s a good player if he gets 300 ABs, not so much if he gets 500.
by oldjacket on Dec 13, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do it!
Decent glove, pop, affordable,multi position, no long term deal and we can still squeeze RJohnson in!
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by rico fardan on Dec 13, 2008 10:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
SUAVE
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by Mike Hawk on Dec 13, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by WalrusMan on Dec 13, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Whenever I decide wether the Giants should sign/trade for a team, I try to imagine Jon Miller’s voice screaming out: “Should be and easy play for [Wiggington] and – and he drops the ball! He drops it! It rolls all the way out to [Death Valley/up the line/Oakland]. Ramirez scores! Ethier scores! And [Wiggington] finally! Finally! Gets the ball back in to Rentaria! Amazing! Simply amazing! Matt Cain should have been out of this fifth inning were it not for the botched play - and make no mistake about it, [Wiggington] could not have had an easier play, and the Dodgers take the lead, 2-1.”
by satyricrash on Dec 13, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wigginton would certainly be a bad third baseman, but to think Sandoval would be any better, is very wishful.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 13, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wiggington’s 3B defense was better than Beltre’s according to Hardball Times, below average according to FanGraphs, and abysmal according to David Pinto. So I’m glad we’ve cleared that up.
Aurilia is usually at the bottom of every 3B ranking, but it was kind of a small sample. He looked like a statue, though, so I’m inclined to believe he really is that bad.
by Grant on Dec 13, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s funny that the opinions were so varied. He has always seemed pretty bad to me (how scientific is that?)
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 13, 2008 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're using a very small sample size
Over his career, he’s been terrible according to UZR (FanGraphs), terrible according to David Pinto, terrible according to +/-, and, FWIW, terrible according to FRAA, the “special kid” of defensive stats. The only system that disagrees is RZR, which only has him as very very bad.
Cleared up enough for you, you defensivestatsophobic?
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by Cookyman on Dec 14, 2008 6:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. I thought he played less 3B over his career, but looking it up, that’s been his primary position. And I’m pretty disabled when it comes to looking up defensive stats, so I’m patting myself on the back just for finding three sources for 2008.
And I’m not scared of defensive stats. I’m just prejudiced against them. I’m defensivestatcist, not defensivestatsophobic.
by Grant on Dec 14, 2008 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say
It’s your fear of UZR that causes you to hate it so much.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2008 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you cut UZR, does it not bleed!?
/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 15, 2008 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but the extent of how much it bleeds is still up for debate.
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2008 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and by “team” I mean player, uh uh uh uh.
by satyricrash on Dec 13, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was expecting a Wiggles reference
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by Mike Hawk on Dec 14, 2008 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do You Wigginton Supporters Really Want To Commit 2Yrs/$12M+ To Him?
Getting non-tendered by the Astros will almost certainly make Ty Wigginton money, as he now becomes a free agent coming off of the best season of his career (.285/.350/.526) as a third baseman and left fielder for the Astros. This has to be a cost-cutting decision; I’m not a big Wigginton fan, but the Astros have just Geoff Blum to play third base in Wigginton’s absence, and that’s not going to work very well. For the Astros to pinch pennies on Wigginton is just the latest episode in the ongoing saga of baseball’s bipolar franchise, as Drayton MacLane flits from wanting to win rightthisverysecond to not quite doing so if it might cost him money. Some team is going to give Wigginton a multi-year deal for a total value north of $12 million, which is a nice contract for a guy being cut by one team.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8370
by giantsrainman on Dec 14, 2008 3:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sheehan’s just guesstimating how how much that little Wiggy will make. But the answer to your question is no, I’d don’t think I’d really want him on a two year contract.
by oldjacket on Dec 14, 2008 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t like Sheehan.
/deer head
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by xanthan on Dec 15, 2008 5:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly OT
I read a recent Sheehan article in which he cited Burrell’s +/-. Has this happened before (I don’t read him very often)? Are BP finally admitting that there are better fielding metrics out there than FRAA?
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by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2008 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think so. FRAA is broken and I think I’ve seen other writers reference other PBP stats like +/-
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by xanthan on Dec 15, 2008 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More Evidense He WIll Not Come Cheaply
by giantsrainman on Dec 14, 2008 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Say Proof Just Said Evidense
by giantsrainman on Dec 14, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, They Are Simular But There Is A Difference
Proof is cumlative conclusive evidence not just a piece of supporting evidence.
by giantsrainman on Dec 14, 2008 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would crap myself if the Giants were to give him Casey Blake $‘s. I already crapped myself that Casey Blake got Casey Blake $’s.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 14, 2008 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the article said that teams backed off of him because they knew he was due an arb salary increase, and they thought they could get him cheaper. Why would the Giants now give him more??
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by rxmeister on Dec 14, 2008 7:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it seems that it will not be a surprise that Wiggington is not offered a contract this week, probably by the Twins. THe Twins have apparently been high on him for a few years now. Giving him more all depends on how the Twins will go after him. If we get into a bidding war, I would not want it to get into the Blake $ area.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 14, 2008 7:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Meant
that it willnotbe a surprise
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 14, 2008 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he makes a lot of sense for the Twins
Unlike the Giants, they might actually be a decent third baseman away from winning their division. I would not be willing to go 3 years, I would draw a firm line at 2, but I would do $12 million if that’s what it took.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 14, 2008 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I were him, I would go to the Twins. By signing with them he will have a really good chance of going to the playoffs, with the Giants…not so much. If we get a chance to sign him cheap then it would make you FLS and me happy that Pablo will not be at third. Or if Pablo does well at third, and the 2B’s shit the bed then we can move Chief Wiggum over to 2B. GIves us options,
Apparently Chief is not the greatest 3B out there, but I would have to think that with his experience, he would still be better than Pablo. But again, we will have to wait to Spring to find that out…
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 14, 2008 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ironically, if he signs with the Twins, he takes the job of ex Giant Brian Buscher, who has actually played pretty well for them when given the chance. However, if Wiggington is interested in going to the highest bidder, the Twins rarely are.
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by rxmeister on Dec 15, 2008 5:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
by the way, you guys are speculating that the Twins should be the favorites for his services, but if you read the link, it says four teams have inquired about him and the Twins are not one of them. However this article was written by a Twins’ beat writer saying that they have liked him in the past and SHOULD be interested in him, not that they are. Rotoword is speculating that SF or Cincinnati is his most probable landing spot, and you would have to think he’s sees a bigger opportunity for playing time at one position with SF because the Reds have Encarnacion.
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by rxmeister on Dec 15, 2008 6:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think that the Twins need him the most, they are the best fit for him, and as much as everybody thinks of the Twins as such a poor team, they have some money to spend this offseason.
I am assuming the Reds are going after him either to be an OF (which they are in desperate need of) or with the intent of moving Encarnacion to the OF
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 15, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw you post on the FanPost Section. Nice Work. And I agree.
That being said, I was referring to that the case that the Twins are (in my eyes) probably going to make a stronger push to the playoffs than the Giants. So if Wiggington is needed more by them, that they will probably offer more money. As you said, that the twins are rarely the highest bidder, which is usually the case, I agree. If the Giants were to go after him, I would want them to be frugal with their efforts. Yes, the FA’s go for the money no matter how they sugar-coat the reason behind them signing with that team.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2008 6:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would sign for him those terms
but first I would see if Joe Crede could be had for something similar
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 14, 2008 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Given the injury history, I'd opt for Wiggington first, and yes,
I could live with those terms also. But he won’t sign here if he’s being pursued by other more competitive teams.
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