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I Can't Stop Thinking About Adrian Gonzalez

The Jake Peavy deal with the Cubs seems to be falling apart if not already fallen apart.  The Padres desperately seem to want to trade him to cut payroll.  The Padres are now clearly in a rebuild phase that is going to take many years before they return to being competative.  In this environment is there really any point in the Padres holding onto Adrian Gonzalez? 

Clearly the Padres are not going to just give away Jake Peavy and Adrian Gonzalez.  They are also likely to want more to agree to make a trade within the NL West.  All that said  is there now an opening for the Giants?  Do we have the trade chips to get both Peavy and Gonzalez?  If we do would it make sense to pull the trigger?

I think we do have the chips and a trade could be put togeather that would benifit both the Giants and the Padres.  Here are the pieces that I see that would interest the Padres:

Jonathan Sanchez and Travis Ishikawa  - Cheap Immediate Major League Replacements

Madison Bumgardner and Angel Villalona - Long Term Replacements

Nate Schierholtz - NL West Sweetner

What Say The McCoven?  

 

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He can’t stop thinking about you either.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2008 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

The Fanpost title is really funny to me. Anyway, even if they Padres were going to trade Gonzalez, I highly doubt that they would trade him within the division. I certainly wouldn’t want to give up any of our top prospects for him.

by Natto on Dec 11, 2008 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think they care where they trade him to

the issue of whether they want to trade him at all is the question. It does make some sense, given Kyle Blanks presence, but he just isn’t the same salary burden.

Still, I’d agree with you about not wanting to give up our top guys, because the cost will be Alderson, Sanchez, Noonan, Lewis, Henry Sosa, Joey Martinez…..or something along those lines anyway

by NeifiChicken on Dec 11, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you suggesting all five of those players? That’s a lot to give up

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

For Gonzalez and Peavy

The way I read it, he’s suggesting:

Jonathan Sanchez, Travis Ishikawa, Madison Bumgardner, Angel Villalona, and Nate Schierholtz in exchange for Peavy and Gonzalez.

While I might be able to be convinced that is a fair trade, I’m totally uninterested in it, because I think that there’s a good possibility those 5 guys churn out at least two stars on the level of Peavy and Gonzalez, and there’s no reason for us to be trading the future for the present.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Dec 11, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Peavy is 27 yrs old and under contract thru the next 4 yrs/$52MM or 5yrs/$78MM

Gonzalez is 26 yrs old and under contract thru next 3 yrs 09:$3M, 10:$4.75M, 11:$5.5M club option (no buyout)

by wilriv21 on Dec 11, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

MadBum and AnVIl are both under 20

And their names are better.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Dec 11, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Correction on Peavy’s contract numbes:

 09:$8M club option 10:$15M, 11:$16M, 12:$17M, 13:$22M club option ($4M buyout)

which would be 4yrs/$60MM or 5yrs/78MM

by wilriv21 on Dec 11, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Another Correction - Peavy Gets $11M (not $8M) in 09

You missed the following when looking at Cot’s:

“2009 salary increases to $11M with Cy Young during 2005-07”

Therefore it would be 4Yrs/$63M or 5 Yrs/$81M

by giantsrainman on Dec 11, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. Still very reasonable.

by wilriv21 on Dec 11, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that there’s a good possibility those 5 guys churn out at least two stars on the level of Peavy and Gonzalez

Really? A good possibility? I’d put Nate’s and Ishikawa’s chances of becoming stars at 0.7%, so basically you think that there’s a good chance that at least two out of MadBum, Villalona, and Sanchez turn into stars? That’s a tad optimistic, don’t you think?

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The role of zenbitz

Has been played by Cookyman.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

That was my way of apologizing for sounding like a dick.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I'm confused...

Are you saying zenbitz sounds like a dick?

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.

by Lyle on Dec 12, 2008 5:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll make you all a deal

I’ll stop being a dick if you guys stop posting stupid shit.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?

by zenbitz on Dec 12, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

NO DEAL

::slaps plastic cover over button::

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by WalrusMan on Dec 12, 2008 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh crap

There’s no way out of this, is there?

 I actually agree with zenbitz most of the time, so I have no problem with his snarkiness. I’m just happy it’s not directed at me.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 12, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

You could have saved all that explaining and just said “yeah”.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 12, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sold on Ishikawa

But Nate Schierholtz could turn into a great player for us. I’m not saying he would necesarilly become a “star”, but I still think he’s capable of being a perennial .280-310 hitter with plenty of RBIs.

by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2008 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Word.

I logged in to post the same thing. I think that’s a big underestimation of Nate’s skills. I think the guy could turn into a .300/.360/.500 guy for us. That’s nothing to sneeze at.

by Gregjitsu on Dec 11, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont see the 360 obp..

but the 300/500 maybe

proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..

by Azmanz on Dec 13, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

This makes no sense. You’re way over fetishising the future, and over fetishising young players. If the Giants get Peavy and Gonzalez, they would probably be the favourites in the NL West for the next several years.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Dec 11, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

but wait….we’re supposed to try to win? I thought the point was to assemble the best young group of prospects whose potentials we can perpetually fantasize about. This Lincecum, Peavy, Cain with AGone in the middle of our lineup talk is just craziness.

by sam23 on Dec 11, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the title of this post.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 11, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

Dear diary,

I Can’t Stop Thinking About Adrian Gonzalez!

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 xoxo

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG, NEVER GIVE THEM THE MAYBE OPTION!

by satyricrash on Dec 11, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I like him, but I’m not sure I’m “in like” with him.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 11, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

7th grade again

Evan said that zenbitz said that biffpocoroba saw hairball tell cornball he saw xanthan tell josh in hollywood that he heard from sharksrog that GRM likes Adrian. Pass it on.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.

by Lyle on Dec 12, 2008 5:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh GRM..

What would the winter be without you.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

sweet

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Dec 11, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m ashamed to admit I can’t stop laughing at this.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
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by Zetsuboushita on Dec 11, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Falling for you
Did you ever see me,
Watching from periphery?
I was playing another game
I hoped you catch on all the same.

by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2008 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh great, now it's stuck in my head.

I can’t stop thinking about I can’t stop thinking about Adrian Gonzalez.

"When Jackson Williams thinks of how many times Madison Bumgarner has tried to kill Tyler Walker..." Well, apparently he succeeded on that last go 'round.

by multiphasic on Dec 11, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Trading Bumgarner and Villalona is crazy talk. A-Gon is awesome, but he’s not going to fix the team this year,or maybe even next. Just run out Ishelps for 600 AB’s this year and call it a day.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 11, 2008 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

for Gonzalez & Peavy?

I think I’d do that.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2008 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d trade Grant for Gonzalez and Peavy, too

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 11, 2008 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It may be just little ol’ me but I DO believe it just got hotter in here

by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 11, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Just those two guys and nothing else?!

Hold out for a pony, man. Don’t you know how to negotiate?

by biff pocoroba on Dec 11, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

"To Grant Below"

Isn’t that a Robin Trower album?

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Dec 12, 2008 1:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Some teams can afford to give up four or five of their top young players for a single player, like the Dbacks trade for Dan Haren. We can’t. We aren’t an Adrian Gonzalez away from the postseason, and if we trade Sanchez and Bumgarner, we take a step back for the future, too.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2008 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

We Get Two (Peavy and Gonzalez) Not Just One

And I think the following team would be a post season team:

Rotation: Lincecum, Peavy, Cain, Zito, Lowry/Misch

Lineup: Winn, Renteria, Lewis, Gonzalez, Sandoval, Molina, Rowand, Frandsen/Burriss/Velez

Bullpen: Wilson, Howry, Romo, Affeldt, Taschner/Hinshaw, Valdez/Miller/Sadler/Matos, Yabu

Bench: Holm, Phelps, Roberts/Bowker, Other 2 of Frandsen/Burriss/Velez

by giantsrainman on Dec 11, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

like the title, but not the idea

SD isnt going to deal those two within the division.

-Misch is terrible.
-Lowry isnt a sure thing to be ready at the start of the season
Then you lose:
Bumgardner, a future front line pitcher
AnVil projected as being a above average talent w/ power
Schierholtz, who has produced every year so far but hasnt got the look he deserves
Ishikawa, whoi seems to have found his stroke.

by silentearth36 on Dec 11, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I try and swing this trade..

If Bumgarner can instead by Alderson and if we sign RJ. In that case..we’ve got quite a good chance at taking the division.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I was gonna say the same thing

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 11, 2008 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah. I would do that deal, but I’m sure San Diego would not.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

At least Alderson. They have to turn to their fanbase and explain why they traded away their two good, long-term players.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Would You Still Do The Deal If Aldrson Was Added?

To me this feels like just too much to give up but I am not sure.

by giantsrainman on Dec 11, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I would. The Giants have one of the best farm systems in the game, but that’s because their top four prospects are in the top 25-50 in baseball. Getting rid of three of the four is too much of a hit, especially when I doubt that Peavy/Gonzalez turn the Giants into an automatic contender.

It’s close, though… If Peavy were a little cheaper, I would think about it. But if he blows up, which is somewhat likely, the Giants would really, really, really be screwed.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't.

I’m in the boat where I’d only maybe do it with Bumgarner, but I’d prefer Alderson instead.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

but

would they do it with you?

Fairley odd parent to Wendell

by WTF on Dec 11, 2008 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

:-(

When do I ever pick on you?

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by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Speak for yourself.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

burned by the rainman

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2008 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

:-(

When do I ever pick on you?

Oh…right….

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by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2008 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

ALL THE TIME

S’ok, we’ve still got beer and RUSH.

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 11, 2008 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhh right..

Beer and Rush.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Rear and Bush?

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by Lyle on Dec 12, 2008 5:28 AM PST up reply actions  

No..don't think we share that.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 12, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

for some reason this made me laugh really, really hard

The Denker bus is now bound for San Diego. Those who were passengers on it are now angrily stranded at a gas station in Modesto, CA. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what she said.

About you, not about me.

So does that count as a burn or not?

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by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The required explanation acted as a burn salve.

Judgment: no burn.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2008 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

also,
she was just talkin about my jokes.

they funny

The Denker bus is now bound for San Diego. Those who were passengers on it are now angrily stranded at a gas station in Modesto, CA. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2008 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a hard time saying no to this. I would want to pick up a 5th starter like Johnson still.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 11, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

oh didnt see your comment when I responded, looks like I just echoed you.

by sam23 on Dec 11, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

look to be in the minority, but I love it. Throw in a Big Ugly on a one year deal to the back of that rotation and it looks even better. We’d probably be NL West faves and then Timmy, Peavy and Matty in a postseason rotation!

by sam23 on Dec 11, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love to get Gonzalez, but the guy’s making $3 million in 2009 and $4.75 million in 2010. He’s one of the biggest bargains in the majors (if not THE biggest) given his production. If the Padres can’t afford to keep him, they may as well apply for a federal bailout right now.

My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.

by Kitspool on Dec 11, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I can't stop thinking about Adrian Zmed...

You probably know it as MYANMAR, but it will always be BURMA to me!

by NuschlerFace on Dec 11, 2008 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

Whew okay, I stopped thinking about Adrian Gonzalez.

No wait!

Dammit!

"When Jackson Williams thinks of how many times Madison Bumgarner has tried to kill Tyler Walker..." Well, apparently he succeeded on that last go 'round.

by multiphasic on Dec 11, 2008 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

I think Gonzalez is going no were. He is cheap and a fun player to watch. Pad’s will build on him as the face of the club going forward.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!

by daveinexile on Dec 11, 2008 12:31 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

cheap and fun

that’s probably why we can’t stop thinking about him. who wouldn’t want him as the face on their club?

I feel gross now.

by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 11, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec’d

just based on the title

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by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2008 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

If this deal is for both Gonzalez and Peavy then the Giants should complete this deal. Both teams get what they are looking for. Giants get ML talent and the Padres get top prospects and salary relief.

Would rather have two birds in hand than 4 birds in the bush. Many prospects do not pan out. Check out BA Top 10 list from years past and see how top prospects pan out.

BA Top 10 list

by wilriv21 on Dec 11, 2008 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Would rather have two birds in hand than 4 birds in the bush.

Exactly. Do it. Do it now.

by sam23 on Dec 11, 2008 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukFl0o0ApDU

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by Kitspool on Dec 11, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a little afraid to follow that link.

by Natto on Dec 11, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I was too...

but it’s SFW

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Dec 11, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

2 legit 2 quit

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Dec 11, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This belongs on someone’s Myspace page…

by Natto on Dec 11, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yes

Adopted Giant: Aaron King

Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat

by baetown415 on Dec 11, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll see your Reo Speedwagon and raise you some Air Supply.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=encEppqhJZA

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 11, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Finally

Now will you guys renounce your Rush-loving ways and get on board the Soft Rock Bandwagon?

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.

by Lyle on Dec 12, 2008 5:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Prefer REO Speedealer.

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Dec 12, 2008 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

♥Adrian and Rainman Gonzalez♥

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2008 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Sparkled the best parts!

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by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

why oh why with the sparkles. Why do i taste broccoli?

by Giant Voodoo on Dec 11, 2008 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it just me?

Or does it look like he’s fartin’ valentines?

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Dec 12, 2008 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Just the thought of what we’d have to give up for Peavy and/or Gonzalez is mind-boggling

by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2008 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

Been to the Portland Zoo bat cave recently eh?

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!

by daveinexile on Dec 11, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Leave my apartment out of this.

by satyricrash on Dec 11, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This nearly made me spit out my soup.

My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.

by Kitspool on Dec 11, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

A look into Grant's PC...

C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Desktop\Masturbating_Animal_GIFS\

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 11, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, that isn’t a default folder in Windows?

by Natto on Dec 11, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

GIFs? WTF? The guy who sold that to me told me it was a webcam!

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s pretty damn funny

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by Goofus on Dec 11, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t trade Bumgarner for Peavy straight up.

I would trade Villalona for Gonzalez, though.

by Evan on Dec 11, 2008 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

Madison Bumgarner: You are wonderful.
The Man from Alabama: Thank you; I’ve worked hard to become so.
Madison Bumgarner: I admit it, you are better than I am.
The Man from Alabama: Then why are you smiling?
Madison Bumgarner: Because I know something you don’t know.
The Man from Alabama: And what is that?
Madison Bumgarner: I… am not right-handed.

¿Julio is tourist in San Francisco? Harper's Bizarre!

by hairball on Dec 11, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

and he asks for the ball when he gets a hit

The Denker bus is now bound for San Diego. Those who were passengers on it are now angrily stranded at a gas station in Modesto, CA. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

so imagine what his numbers would be now that he doesnt have to face Timmy 10-15 times a year! ;)

by sam23 on Dec 11, 2008 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

nobodys going to make an english beat reference? cmon you pop reference nerds

i adopt the ghost of ernest riles

by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 11, 2008 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

dammit, thats why im no good at these pop references…stupid brain

i adopt brian sabean... take that dramatic irony!

by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 11, 2008 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

English Beat is a real band.

They mutated into Fine Young Cannibals eventually.

I have no idea why I know this

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by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they mutated into General Public first.

/adjusts nerd glasses

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by Kitspool on Dec 11, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

What are you doing with xanthan’s glasses?

by Natto on Dec 11, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

i think it was sort of an amoeba splitting thing and happened at the same time. Two guys went to FYC and two guys went to GP.

The bigger stars (Dave and Ranking Roger) went to GP.

On a side note, Dave still tours as “English Beat” and is freakin’ awesome. He’s still sounds great although doesn’t try to hit all the high notes on “I Confess”. He hangs out and has drinks with the audience during intermission and hangs out afterward to chat, sign autographs pose for pictures with the audience. (I came away with an autographed set list.)

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 11, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

I’ve caught him here in Santa Barbara a couple times. An insanely good show from a 50-something (?). Not that that’s old, but…

Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.

by Giants_Junkie on Dec 11, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve seen the newest incarnation of the English Beat three times, and although I enjoyed the shows immensely, when Dave Wakeling is the only guy there from the original group you shouldn’t really call yourself the English Beat. Then again, if he toured with the original guys he probably wouldn’t do his General Public hits, which would take away from the show. VH1 did a Bands Reunited show with the orginal members a few years ago, but they couldn’t get them onstage because the two in Fine Young Cannibals wouldn’t return their phone calls.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Dec 11, 2008 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

they weren’t the same guys. Dave Wakeling and Ranking Roger left the English Beat to become General Public. The rest of the group was just discarded. Rather than go on employment, the two guitarists, Dave Cox and Dave Steele seeked out old friend Roland Gift to form Fine Young Cannibals. I always tell my wife that I’m the king of useless information, and here I am proving it once again.

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by rxmeister on Dec 11, 2008 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, but

I don’t even like ska. Or the Fine Young Cannibals.

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by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2008 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

slip slowly into mental illness

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Dec 12, 2008 1:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t it “drift gently into mental illness”?

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 12, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. I slouch corrected.

I watch you struggle and it gets me red hot

I had to send to the UK for a VINYL copy of “Dance Craze” , a live album from the early 80s just to get a live recording of Madness’ “One Step Beyond”.

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

As a counter-argument, Dave founded the band. wrote all their original songs and sang lead on all but a couple of them. I don’t begrudge him calling his band “The English Beat”. If one person is the primary creative force behind the band, it’s acceptable in my book. It’s comparable to Billy Corgan finding new bandmates and still calling himself “Smashing Pumpkins”.

When I saw him earlier in the year, the only General Public songs he player were Burning Bright and Tenderness. I was hoping he’d play Hot You’re Cool.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 12, 2008 5:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He did it in New York, because OMG he was in the Big Apple!! He also did the song, General Public. I have to admit all the shows were great. One of the tours he had Lynval Golding of the Specials and Pauline of The Selecter in his band, and they did some of their songs as well as his own. On another, he had The Fixx and The Alarm opening for him. Next month he’s coming again and Bad Manners is the opening act. The only thing I really blame him for is the way he broke up the original English Beat. From what I heard, he just told Ranking Roger he was leaving and gave him the choice of going with him. The rest of the group didn’t know anything until a few days later when their accountant called them with the news. Pretty shitty way of leaving a band.

Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season

by rxmeister on Dec 12, 2008 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Opening acts? Holy Cow! We saw him at the Little Fox in Redwood City. Couldn’t have been more than a 150-200 people in there. Tiny venue with nothing but a two-foot high stage and a dance floor. Easily the most intimate performance of a “big name” musician I’ve ever been to. Incredible fun; felt like a party and he was playing in someone’s living room.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 12, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

First time I saw him it was a little place as well, the Canal Room. He was able to shake everyone’s hand. Since then, he’s played only bigger places when he came to New York, like BB King’s and Irving Plaza. (now called the Fillmore for some reason) Those are big places yet he seems to pack them pretty good. I enjoyed the intimate concert as well, but it sort of made me feel sad that his career was reduced to playing places like that. The fact that he’s packing the bigger places now and they keep asking him back for more shows makes me happy for him.

Brian Sabean's dad- will make a few phone calls to help his son find a new job after next season

by rxmeister on Dec 13, 2008 5:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s as much a matter of loving to play, so he plays lots and lots of gigs, regardless of the size. I check out his tour schedule pretty regularly and it seems like he has a gig every other night. I also noticed he plays a lot of private parties.

After seeing him in the small venue and being able dance four feet from where he was playing, seeing him in a big hall wouldn’t be as much fun.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 13, 2008 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Jimmy Chamberlain is still in (or back in) Smashing Pumpkins. I think I agree with you about Billy still calling his band that but certainly not Axl Rose still calling his band Guns n’ Roses.

Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.

by SF Pete on Dec 12, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, I didn’t know who’s in the Smashing Pumpkins right now. i was just trying to think of a band where one person is really “the band”. Maybe I should have said Ian Anderson can all his band Jethro Tull no matter who else is in it.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 12, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd make that trade

I’d hate losing those players, but yeah, I think they’d have to do that deal.

No way the Padres do it. I live in SD, and right now fan enthusiasm is abysmal coming off last year+Hoffman leaving+Peavy trade talk. If they also traded their best player (by far) who’s young affordable, and a local guy, they might not sell a ticket next year. At least not for 18 year old prospects, no matter how good they are.

by hammystyle on Dec 11, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

whats up with Hoffman anyway? wheres he gonna go?

by sam23 on Dec 11, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

if a trade of adrian and peavy goes down

i believe the only padres making over a million would be giles ($9M) and young ($4.5M); that payroll would be retardedly low. i wonder who would be the face of that franchise?

Dodgers fans eat their young.

by redhornet78 on Dec 11, 2008 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

i wonder who would be the face of that franchise?

Omar Vizquel

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Dec 11, 2008 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

(S)He Belongs to Me, by Harry Connick Jr.

So I thought and I thought about him
I just couldn’t stop thinking about him
And I died when he called me up and said,
“Oh Rainman, I can’t stop thinkin’ about you either, baby!”

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Dec 11, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

I FREAKIN LOVE THE TITLE OF THIS FANPOST
i said it.

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Dec 11, 2008 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

fanpost title of the year

no doubt

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2008 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

New award category?

/deer head
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Dec 11, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t wait for a Padres fan to visit this site and read the title.

by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

or for some rumor desperate sports writer to stumble upon it. “Well connected rainmaker in Giants organization, can’t stop thinking about Adrian Gonzalez”

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Dec 11, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

+100

I can’t wait to see how its used in the game days.

by out machine on Dec 11, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The Padres have fans?

Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.

by Giants_Junkie on Dec 11, 2008 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

dont click on grm post dont click on grm post

dont click dont click donn….

Damn. Couldn’t resist.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?

by zenbitz on Dec 11, 2008 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks of the happy hardcore song “Can’t Stop”?

by Natto on Dec 11, 2008 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

The rainman gave me two cures and he said “Jump right in”
One was Texas medicine, but the other was just railroad gin
And like a fool I mixed them, and it strangled up my mind
Now people just get uglier, and I have no sense of time

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Dec 11, 2008 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

But me, I expected it to happen
I knew he’d lost control
When he built a fire on Main Street
And shot it full of holes

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2008 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

OH MAMA

…can this really be the end?

"I didn't know (after seeing a spectacular over-the-shoulder catch) whether to shit or go blind." - Former Giants Outfielder Harvey Kuenn on Willie Mays

by stealth snail on Dec 11, 2008 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

To be stuck inside of Fresno with the SF blues again

- Nate Schierholtz

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2008 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I held my nose, I closed my eyes, I took a drink!

I didn’t know if it was day or night.
I started kissing everything in sight.
But when I kissed Gonzalez down on 34th and Vine.
He broke my little bottle of Love Potion number 9.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005.

by Lyle on Dec 12, 2008 5:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I AM THINKING ABOUT ADRIAN GONZALEZ RIGHT NOW ALSO!

yes Yes YES!!!!

/lights a smoke.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2008 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

From now on...

I have a standard reply for whenver someone asks me “What are you thinking about?”

Kevin Correia: much more Seoul than Pyongyang

by VidaWantsYourCar on Dec 11, 2008 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

lol

Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.

by kennv on Dec 12, 2008 12:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Barry Axelrod has an interesting take on the future of Jake Peavy
.

  • San Francisco Giants as a possible destination,
  • Regarding the Giants: "I think they’ve got the money. But I don’t know if they’ve got the prospects."

Barry Axelrod is the agent for Jake Peavy.

by wilriv21 on Dec 11, 2008 11:31 PM PST reply actions  

Is this the best McC 2008-2009 offseason trade idea so far? I say yes.

by sam23 on Dec 11, 2008 11:58 PM PST reply actions  

Found Another Rainman - The Angels GM!

“Padres GM Kevin Towers revealed in a radio interview that the Angels asked about a Peavy-Adrian Gonzalez package deal, but the Padres don’t want to trade Gonzalez. As a baseball fan, I like it when Towers reveals things like this. It must be incredibly frustrating for rival GMs though.”

Source MLB Trade Rumors – Jake Peavy Rumors: Saturday
By Tim Dierkes [December 13 at 1:44am CST]

But Kevin Towers is not yet ready to consider bitting.

by giantsrainman on Dec 13, 2008 12:23 AM PST reply actions  

Maybe The Padres Would Consider Trading Adrian Gonzalez Too

“Towers told the Padres’ flagship radio station, 1090-AM, that the Angels expressed interest in acquiring both Peavy and first baseman Adrian Gonzalez. The Padres were intrigued to know what the Angels would offer in return for the two, but Towers said it didn’t go that far. Padres CEO Sandy Alderson has said the Padres will retain Gonzalez at least until the 2009 season and have no plans to deal him. Gonzalez is due a budget-friendly $3 million next season and can’t become a free agent until after the 2011 season.”

 http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/dec/12/s13padres-peavy-frustrated-trade-talks-cubs/?padres

Has is past tense and Towers was “intrigued to know what the Angels would offer in return for the two”.

by giantsrainman on Dec 13, 2008 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

There are too many replies to wade through, so I don't know if it's been done yet, but...

Dear Adrian…

Never gonna give you up!
Never gonna let you down.
Never gonna run around,
and desert you.

(I like putting it all out there on the line instead of going with the Rickroll)

Leading the Pro-Aaron Rowand contingent on the McC!
You can ridicule me in 2009 if you like...

by ThrillisGone22 on Dec 13, 2008 4:00 PM PST reply actions  

On a more serious note...

If it was MadBam OR AnVil (and not both), I would do it in a heartbeat. Even as is, it’s worth consideration.
I don’t think it’s mortgaging in the future so much as investing in the present and near future. It’s not like Peavy and Gonzalez are on the cusp of dropping off in production in the next 4-5 years.

Is it likely to happen? Probably not. But it’s also a hell of an idea.

Leading the Pro-Aaron Rowand contingent on the McC!
You can ridicule me in 2009 if you like...

by ThrillisGone22 on Dec 13, 2008 4:10 PM PST reply actions  

I keep finding myself coming back to this post. The title is so funny.

Maybe I can’t stop thinking of Adrian Gonzalez as well…hmmm??

I Don't Tolerate Intolerance!

by Giant among Angels on Dec 14, 2008 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

Don't!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?

by zenbitz on Dec 15, 2008 9:52 AM PST reply actions  

Stop!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?

by zenbitz on Dec 15, 2008 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Thinkin' 'bout

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?

by zenbitz on Dec 15, 2008 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Gonzales!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?

by zenbitz on Dec 15, 2008 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

or Gonzalez.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."

by WalrusMan on Dec 15, 2008 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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