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OT: Soon to be cabbie questions/thoughts

So I hate this current job market.  I really really really wish that I had another/better option on the table but outside of prostitution (which never was an option since women folk don't seem to pay for that, and while flattering I'm not into the dudes) there doesn't seem to be one.  I don't want to make bathtub meth or sell crack in the tenderloin, so I figured the next best thing would be to get my Cab license and start driving ASAP so I can have some dinero to pay my rent and other bills. 

I'm asking you lurkers and posters, what kind of suggestions you might have for pick up spots that would be under the radar.  Outside of the typical commuter spots, conventions, baseball season beginning in April, etc. the only thing that is striking me as new and untested is the Chron listings of freighters that dock at the port of SF, and perhaps there's a way to contact the ship in advance to arrange for a pick up upon arrival. 

Do you, the McC braintrust have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions for me?

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what about a car that runs on dead hookers?

The Denker bus is now bound for San Diego. Those who were passengers on it are now angrily stranded at a gas station in Modesto, CA. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Dec 10, 2008 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is going back quite a few years, but my fiancee used to work at a supermarket in Stonestown and said that a large percentage of their customer base came from a nearby elderly housing complex. Seniors would usually take a bus to the supermarket, do their shopping for the week, and then call a cab to take them back home.

Maybe not a huge moneymaker for a cabbie, since the distances are short and the tips are minimal, but housing for the elderly would be a good customer base to develop, especially it would be mostly a daytime clientele, leaving evenings free to pick up folks going to/from restaurants and clubs downtown. Just a thought.

My plans for 2009: getting married and attending Tim Lincecum Bobblehead Day.

by Kitspool on Dec 10, 2008 9:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

There's nothing wrong with short trips

IIRC the Chronicle had a story a few weeks/months back that said the Union Square – Fisherman’s Warf run (in both directions) was the bread and butter of SF Cabbies…

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 9:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The cock-fighting arena in the Mission (not the one in the Castro).

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Dec 10, 2008 9:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

C'mon...that's just rumor...

And if it’s not where is this cockfighting location and when is it held?

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 9:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You mean Eros at Market and Church?

Oh, the one in the Mission. I don’t know about that.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and while flattering I’m not into the dudes

Uh, that’s why it’s work.

by satyricrash on Dec 10, 2008 9:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

+1

I draw the lines at happy endings…to bad it’s hard to advertise something like that

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s why there’s Craigslist.

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Dec 10, 2008 9:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing you do not want to be a prostitute with a “no happy ending” policy.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

CASH IS HTE ULTIMATE HAPPY ENDING

by satyricrash on Dec 10, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

in a moment of curiousity

I checked CL and it looks like the bottom has dropped in the hooker biz as well…stupid economy..

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 9:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I read an article

that said they were cracking down on all the “Escort” postings on CL

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Dec 10, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Only 40 something states were in favor of this

Good old CA wasn’t one of them…

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Golden Gate Park is surprisingly decent...

there’s not too many cabs around there, yet there are tons of tourists, who are more likely to shell out for a cab than use public transportation (since after all, they are on vacation)

by NeifiChicken on Dec 10, 2008 10:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t want to make bathtub meth

I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss this idea. Of course I’m from Modesto, and as I’ve always said “you can take the guy out of Modesto, but you can’t take Modesto out of the guy”

by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 10, 2008 10:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Let us know if you pick this guy up in the Tenderloin.

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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2008 10:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

seeing as I can never find a gdamn f*$#ing cab near Union Square it’d be sweet if you set up around there :P

by fwoty oz on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

really?

Does “near Union square” mean union square or Stockton & Sutter or something like that?

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Right in front of Macy’s

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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve walked from the Ferry Building down past Union Square too many times without finding a cab.

I’m usually only in the city on big weekends, though.

by fwoty oz on Dec 10, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

true, true, even on the weekdays.

by timmeh on Dec 12, 2008 6:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Teenage Mary said to uncle Dave
I sold my soul, must be saved
Gonna take a walk down to Union Square
You never know who you’re gonna find there

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 10, 2008 12:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you think you're soooooooooooooooooooo smart

with the Tom Waits & Velvet Underground references…but you’re not…so there.

/Not really I’m just feeling snarky towards people posting lyrics today

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 12:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I also posted some PE lyrics in a Fanshot about the New York Post…seems I couldnt avoid them today.

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Dec 10, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i’m cool, okay????

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Dec 10, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To be really cool, you wouldn’t ask for confirmation.

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Snark on.

Baby, tie your hair back in a long white bow,
Meet me in the fields out behind the dynamo,
You hear the voices telling you not to go,
They made their choices and they’ll never know,
What it means to steal, to cheat, to lie,
What it’s like to live and die.

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers

by victor frankenstein on Dec 10, 2008 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

SISTER RAY

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Dec 10, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet Jane

My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.

by nvsfg on Dec 10, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We could all just put your cell number in our phones and you’d always be on call for the McCoven.

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Dec 10, 2008 11:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

No good pickup spots, but here's my advice

Set yourself apart from other cabbies and earn repeat business by giving “limo” type service:

  • Don’t drive like a maniac and riun someone’s ride because the feared for their life while getitng to their destination 30 seconds earlier.
  • Keep your cab clean
  • Always get out and open the door for ladies getting in and out of your cab. I’d also recommend doing it for men. It raises the experience and makes it seem much more appropriate to give a tip. Also, do a quick check to make sure they haven’t left anything in the cab, you’ll be a hero if you find their cell phone or wallet before they walk away.
  • Loan and unload people’s luggage from the trunk. Don’t expect them to do it.
  • Be friendly. If the person seems like they want to converse, converse. If they’re preoccupied, don’t force a conversation.
  • When making conversation, don’t talk about yourself, ask about them. They’re the customer and who knows, you might meet someone who works in a field you’re interested in working in permanently.
  • Give a warning as you’re approaching their destination so they can gather up their belongings.
  • If you get what seems to be a well off tourist that’s going to a certain destination, offer to be their driver/guide for the day. Take them to places they want to see and wait while they get out and check out sites. The meter is always running! Know enough interesting facts to make the experience enjoyable.
  • Present yourself professionally. You don’t have to dress up, but look “nice” and make a good impression.
  • The goal should be to turn the “customer” into a “client”. Ask for their business and have cards made up with your phone number and email. Give your card to the fair as you open the door for them and have a quick line ready like, “I hope you’ve enjoyed your ride and it would be a pleasure to add you as one of my regular clients. Iwhen ever you have need for a driver, I hope that you think of me.” Take appointments!

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by Goofus on Dec 10, 2008 11:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

all good advice

I think most of them are common sense, but obviously they don’t happen all the time or you wouldn’t have written such a detailed list. Clearly you’ve been slighted. I won’t be that guy…

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

never been slighted

I think they’re common sense for anyone who’s “lived a little”, but I’m surprised how often a cabbie will have crap all over the front seat and dashboard and a dirty cab. I’ve been with two other friends and have had to squeeze in the backseat because the cabbie has turned the passenger’s seat into his living room.

They often drive like their life depends on running thie next red light.

I would say my experience in cabs has been that all things I’ve mentioned are uncommon.

Only once has a cabbie given me a card and asked for repeat business.

I think there’s a great opportunity to bring professionalism to a job where it doesn’t regularly exist.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 10, 2008 11:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So having said this

Do you have a mental limit on what a driver can have on the passenger seat up front? I’m imagining that up front would probably be limited to a beverage of some sort, something to write with and on, an mp3 player w/accompanying fm transmitter (so the mp3 player will play through the car stereo), a navigation system, and maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe a laptop bag. most if not all of this stuff would be out of sight of the passengers and if I needed to pick up a party of 4, i’d put the laptop bag in the trunk (if I was carrying one).

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess it’s pretty obvious how service-oriented I am. (I’m in marketing in a very service-oriented industry.)

I think the answer to the question would be not necessarity how much stuff is in the front seat, but how organized it is and how quickly and easily someone can sit down in the front seat.

Perhaps one of those caddies that can hold your drink, MP3 player, maps, etc and still leave room for a pssenger would be a good idea.

I’d keep the laptop bag in the trunk.

And for god’s sake, don’t have junk all over the dashboard.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 10, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, but a dancing Goofus is ok

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Dec 10, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer a dancing Gallant...

If only to offer balance in the force

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

More often than not

The larger cab co’s have people driving different cabs each shift, so the putting of stuff on the dashboard is more a pain than anything else.

Down in Front Meat!

by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Make sure any music you have on is appropriate. I’m not sure how you’d do that between any other music you have on there, but perhaps just go with radio too.

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by WalrusMan on Dec 10, 2008 9:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking fluent english

Automatically puts you a notch above 90% of the cab drivers in SF.

Communicating with someone who doesn’t speak English clearly can be difficult and frustrating.

by FairweatherFan on Dec 11, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

  • Always have the Giants game tuned in.
  • They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

    by bgunn on Dec 10, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    of course

    Or Giants related content….

    Down in Front Meat!

    by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    Unless it’s Ralph Barbieri.

    by Natto on Dec 10, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    Keep Ralph on the dashboard!

    by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    I'll be honest

    As much as think Ralph should practice unprotected unsafe sex with Haitian Hookers on a nightly basis, I think his lack of preparation and planning make for a more entertaining (though probably embarrassing to Tolbert) show. JMTC

    Down in Front Meat!

    by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    another thing

    didn’t that article in the chron recently talk all about how cabbies are getting their business ripped off by “limo services” that aren’t licensed? And then it mentioned how there aren’t enough taxi medallions in the city, right? Anyway, I’m just wondering…maybe it’s really hard to get a taxi medallion – have you looked into that?

    Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

    by wjackalope on Dec 10, 2008 11:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

    OMFG I soooooo want a taxi medallion

    You have to drive for 2 years to be eligible, but once you’ve done that, it’s a 15 year wait for a cabbie license…to be fair, that’s probably not accurate since the baby boomers that have been on that list are close to retirement and they can’t will those medallions to their wife/kids/etc. I’ve heard that a medallion is worth anywhere from 100k – 3/4ths of a million k per year, and I want a piece of that action…

    Down in Front Meat!

    by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    So you’re going to be a “limo service”?

    My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

    by Goofus on Dec 10, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    so I don't get it

    are you allowed to drive a cab without a medallion? what’s the licensing process? explain…

    Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

    by wjackalope on Dec 10, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    So here's the condensed version

    to be a licensed cab driver in SF, you have
    1. Graduate from a certified (by the city of SF) taxi school (cost $125-150)
    2. Obtain a letter of intent to hire from a cab company in SF (in practice, this is just a statement from a company that if they have a cab available to lease to you, they will)
    3. Get 2 passport size head shot photos
    4. Get a live scan (background check & finger printing) from the SFPD (cost $160)
    5. Take the SFPD taxi driver exam and pass with a score of 70% or higher
    6. Pay the SF Tax office $60
    7. Go to a cab company that has an available cab and lease the cab (and the medallion that the company holds, etiher in the form of a co-op like yellow/luxor/etc.) which you pay at the end of your shift.

    Down in Front Meat!

    by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    Are you sure you don’t want to go with prostitution?

    by satyricrash on Dec 10, 2008 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    It is tempting....

    I still say doing something legal is better, but if women ever want to pay me for relations….

    Down in Front Meat!

    by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    I see

    so the cab company has the medallion and you operate under it? But you could someday conceivably get your own medallion and run your own cab/fleet of cabs?

    well I for one say that if you do become a cabbie you should definitely give out your hours and # to the McCoven and then offer to wait a mile or two to turn on the meter.

    Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

    by wjackalope on Dec 10, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    I've heard you can lose your A card if you're caught driving someone with your meter off

    But yes I will definitely post days/times/# etc while on the road. Do you think it’s something that would be ok for an OT: Fan Post? Or should I change my handle to Drew the Hack or something? I’m almost up to 500 posts so I’d feel bad if I gave up on it before crossing that.

    Down in Front Meat!

    by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    some thoughts about where to get people

    outside any bart station late at night right after the station closes.

    the marina – I don’t go there often but when I have I’ve taken cabs because it’s so far from Bart, and it usually takes a while to get one.

    Also, try to get one of those minivans. It’s such a pain in the ass that cabs can only take 3-4 people sometimes.

    Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

    by wjackalope on Dec 10, 2008 1:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

    There's got to be something to the Union/Lombard crowds

    Deeper pockets, but I don’t relish the idea of driving the drunks around, or at least ones that have puke issues.

    Down in Front Meat!

    by homerdrew415 on Dec 10, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    and on that note...

    you might want to make sure all your immunizations are up to date. One of the hepatitis strains can be transmitted via vomit and uh…ummm hmmm- how to put this delicately? …. fecal matter

    by Merope on Dec 10, 2008 5:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    I'm not sure if this would work..

    But if you know anyone in the bar or restaurant business, you could leave your name and number with them. When they get anyone who needs a ride they can give you a call instead of giving a company a call.

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    by WalrusMan on Dec 10, 2008 9:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

    Sure women pay for that. Ever heard of a stud farm? I sort of want to be a postmodern version of Heidi Fleiss someday, once I am old and dried up.

    "While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

    by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2008 10:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

    But if you pulled the Heidi Fleiss routne, would you be able to keep your hands off the merchandise?

    I saw that documentary about her efforts to open the stud farm. Man, that woman has issues.

    My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

    by Goofus on Dec 11, 2008 7:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    It’s my stud farm. I’ll cry if I want to.

    Nah see that’s why I run the place when I’m old and dried up. I’m talking like 70 or 80. Nobody wants to get with an old lady. I have faith that I’ll remain hot through my 40s, but 70s?

    "While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

    by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2008 9:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    adding to Goof’s excellent ideas—
    be enthused but not hyper. WHen there’s luggage or groceries to move, and a stairway or anything, you should be hauling it cheerfully.
    Picking up at a grocery store—open the trunk immediately, load the groceries, keep the seat clear and yell loudly, “got room for one or two more”. The second customer will not mind sitting in the car while you unload the first. Charge the normal price to each for t he distance.
    All-day guide? Or just a scenic trip? Out of towners, tell them for a few bucks more you can go via Twin Peaks (or other drive you like). Be clear and honest about the time and money difference. For all day, you have to charge enough compared with normal fares and tips.
    Read the newspaper for museum ideas, festivals, concerts. Ballet and symphony. Hard to figure when the event ends.
    Amtrak bus from the East bay, does that still drop off at the Embarcadero? Bus stations, even Bart stations.
    Laptop on the seat? sounds like a crime magnet to me. If there’s music you have to offer a choice based on different ages/regions. Or silence. And when you don’t have a fare I advise no music, you have to learn the radio system, in some towns it’s essential—deliveries, runs from hotels to airports.
    If somebody needs to go inside and asks you to wait but they haven’t paid you yet—better get paid first.
    If you get called to an address, you knock on the door, there’s nobody there or they say they didn’t call a cab, then you get back to the cab and there’s a guy or 2 in the back seat…not a good sign. I used to walk away, with the keys, rather than sit down with my back to somebody who lured me in like that. At least if you see them walking and they ask for a ride you can check out body language.
    Meeting 30 or 40 strangers a day, travelers, foreigners, people going through a change, weddings and funerals and hospital visits—I sure liked it, I still dream about the whole process, decades later.

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    by foothillsfan on Dec 11, 2008 9:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

    Good stuff. I’d also recommend pressing for the repeat business after dropping someone off at a theatre. Make an appointment for when the show ends. It you can’t find a spot right in front of the threatre, get out and greet them as their leaving the threatre.

    My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

    by Goofus on Dec 12, 2008 5:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

    my last thought

    know where stuff is. I once got in a cab in Chicago and the dude didn’t know how to get to Wrigley field. Make sure you know all the best routes to different places and where any and all attractions are.

    Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

    by wjackalope on Dec 11, 2008 2:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

    While in Chicago I had to direct a cabbie to Grant Park. although getting a cab in Chicago is so easy. I barely waved my arm and a cab pulled up.

    by timmeh on Dec 12, 2008 6:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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