Resolution for the Offseason
by Grant on Nov 7, 2008 11:58 AM PST
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WHEREAS: I would be entirely fine with Travis Ishikawa starting at first against right-handers, and Josh Phelps starting at first against left-handers. An upgrade would be fantastic, but a Phelshi platoon would give the Giants an opportunity to see if the Ishikawa's resurgence was for real.
WHEREAS: I have no problem trying Pablo Sandoval for 100 games at third next season, with Kevin Frandsen an option against left-handers. Sandoval might have the range of a legless Bob Brenly, but at least he has soft hands and a good arm.
WHEREAS: There are four options in the outfield, with nary a dud in the bunch. Aaron Rowand had an ugly slump to end the season, he's overpaid, and he never really made sense on a team with Randy Winn already on the roster, but he's still a worthy starter on most teams.
WHEREAS: Noah Lowry's arm and shoulder and elbow and thumbs and cuticles and wrists and triceps and three of his four humors are all questionable for the upcoming season; I'm pulling for him -- I really, really am -- but there's a difference between "pulling for" and "counting on."
WHEREAS: Kevin Pucetas interests me as a pitching prospect, and I'm looking forward to seeing how he does in Connecticut and Fresno, but I doubt his ability to survive the Bocock rocket straight from the Cal League to the majors. Note: the original astronaut on the Bocock rocket burned up upon reentry.
WHEREAS: Two of the most valuable players in the organization can't legally drink, and in the event of rotational implosion, it would be way too tempting to rush them into a major league rotation.
RESOLVED: The Giants' highest free-agent priority should be a low-cost starting pitcher.
None of this CC Sabathia silliness, mind you. This resolution is only in favor of guys who would accept a one- or two-year deal. Greg Maddux. Carl Pavano. Randy Wolf. Pedro Martinez. Paul Byrd. Orlando Hernandez. Brad Penny. Those aren't in order of preference, but none of those players (with the possible exceptions of Wolf and Penny) should want more than a few million for a year or two. If one of these guys stays healthy and reasonably effective, the Giants don't have to rush a prospect, and they don't have to rely on uncertainties like Steve Hammond. If one of these guys signs for a few million and disintegrates, no big whoop. INMM.
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I’m really intrigued by the idea of Pedro Martinez, myself.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Nov 7, 2008 12:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Martinez
I have to admit, it is an interesting option. However, isn’t he more of a 5 inning guy now? With him starting, our pen is going to get a lot of work (they might anyway!). And if we are running out the same type of middle relief, it probably won’t result in a good outcome.
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 7, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially with our staff averages...
Sanchez 5.44
Zito 5.63
Cain 6.4
Lincecum 6.76
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by WalrusMan on Nov 7, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are pretty good averages, actually. Cain and Lincecum in particular.
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by jponry on Nov 7, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes for Cain and Lincecum..
I’m just talking about Sanchez and Zito. Sanchez could go up, or he could stay the same. And Zito figures to stay the same or go down.
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by WalrusMan on Nov 7, 2008 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Still, I don’t think there’s a rotation out there that’s going to have more than 2 or 3 pitchers at most averaging over 6 innings per start.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Nov 7, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i heard of this guy livan hernandez, i think he eats up lots of innings
by cazzuno on Nov 7, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We've a passing acquaintance.
Is he worth a second look , or is his batter stupefaction act on the wane?
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Is it always the man with the gun?
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by victor frankenstein on Nov 8, 2008 6:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's pretty much done.
The Expos put a lot of innings on that arm and he can’t sneak anything by anyone anymore.
by oldjacket on Nov 8, 2008 7:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We should get him to make Zito feel better – Livan was one of only 4 starters who threw a slower fastball than Zito this year.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 8, 2008 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For a fifth starter though, I don’t think you can expect much more.
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by jponry on Nov 7, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What do they taste like?
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Nov 7, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oddly enough
Snozzberries. Who knew?
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by zenbitz on Nov 7, 2008 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to think of him...
As a rhesus monkey we sent on it first anyway. And hopefully it showed that we don’t quite have the technology yet.
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by WalrusMan on Nov 7, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I’ve always been an El Duque fan for some reason and Pedro is intriguing as jponry mentioned.
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
by SF Pete on Nov 7, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Intriguing
Yeah, he’s a pretty smart guy
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by ThrillisGone22 on Nov 7, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Mussina
the team should look into signing him. he can still pitch well, he has Bay Area ties, and would be a much more pitcher friendly park. But, he may not enjoy losing so much.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 7, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
too pricey compared to the others
Kyle Nicholson: the fyootch
by stealth snail on Nov 7, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps
but it certainly would be worth a shot to find out what his price range is. It certainly wouldn’t be a long term arrangement.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 7, 2008 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees want him back
Also, it’s unlikely whatever Bay Area ties he has is going to make him want to travel cross country to his home in Montoursville, Pennsylvania. It’s very unlikely that he’s going to sign with west coast team.
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by rfloh on Nov 9, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought for him it was Yankees or retirement.
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by groug on Nov 7, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he has Bay Area ties
I’m going to have to disagree. Mussina favors Robert Talbott neckwear. Though they’re based headquartered in Carmel Valley, I don’t consider that part of the “Bay Area”.
Yes we did!
by Goofus on Nov 7, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Joe Martinez instead of Pucetas? Just based off his numbers, since I can’t find any other info on him, he looks like a strike throwing ground baller with average strikeout stuff. I’m not sure on the ground baller part, since I can’t find those numbers anywhere; I’m just basing it off his fantastic HR rates in the minors. He seems like the perfect option for the #5 spot in the rotation.
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by marcello on Nov 7, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Whoops
Found it, I was looking for Joe instead of Joseph. Anyways, yup, he’s a groundballer. Also, his MLE’s from Connecticut are promising: 4.13 FIP.
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by marcello on Nov 7, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, he went to one of the greatest educational institutions in the country.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Nov 7, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will agree with you on that.
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 7, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/ flaps arms
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 7, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They just unveiled a Flutie statue in front of Alumni Stadium today!
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Nov 7, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no u
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Nov 7, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For reals!?!
That’s a lot of Flutie Flakes box tops!
haha I’ll be expecting to see that in the alum newsletter
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 7, 2008 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s awesome!
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Nov 7, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When is Princeton putting up the Dean Cain statue?
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 7, 2008 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s way better than any other statue, excepting those surrounding China Basin.
by cornball on Nov 8, 2008 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You all went to Seton Hall Prep?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Nov 7, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've always liked his numbers....
I just wish he was putting them up at about two years younger in age. Still, he’s probably farther along than Pucetas
by NeifiChicken on Nov 7, 2008 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of think Martinez is next in line as well.
Its just a hunch but I think he is not mentioned just to keep the pressure off him for the time being. It possible he wows us this spring. But I my best guess is he needs some success in Fresno for a while before he hit’s the show for any length of time.
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by daveinexile on Nov 9, 2008 8:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
4 Non-dud OFs?
I’d put Rowand and Winn in that category with Lewis and Schierholtz behind them. Not too far, but still behind.
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by WalrusMan on Nov 7, 2008 12:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see Rowand or Winn traded, to maybe get them on a contender but while opening a spot for Nate, maybe get a prospect or two back.
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Nov 7, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Rowand had an ugly slump to end the season…
End of the season = June through September.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 7, 2008 12:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
as long as he voluntarily enters our Dodgers detox program, I’m willing to accept it.
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by Takimoto on Nov 7, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a lot of former Giants become Dodgers lately , but not the other way around…….
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Nov 7, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Penny & Barry Zito
Have both banged Alyssa Milano.
Awkward in the clubhouse?
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 7, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sign Pavano as well
and we can have all 3 of her baseball exes
by NeifiChicken on Nov 7, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
Those legs stay open longer than 7-11
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 7, 2008 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, she digs dudes who kinda suck now
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Nov 7, 2008 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She sucks dudes who dig…..themselves….and suck…….damn
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Nov 7, 2008 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Otto F. Ellatio.
Dude’s just too wrapped up in himself…
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by victor frankenstein on Nov 8, 2008 6:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Argeed
I actually had words with Penny during this game. Penny gave up 2 HRs in the top of the first to Winn and BLB and threw the water jug in the dugout after. My father and I were sitting in the dugout seats next to the away ondeck circle and when Penny came on deck in the top of the second I ragged on him saying that he threw the water jug nearly as far as the two home runs went. He responded with “You could probably hit me tonight with how my f-ing shoulder feels tonight”… we had a couple little banters back and forth after that during the game and ever since I just see him as a complainer.
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by j14 on Nov 7, 2008 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love Todd Linden driving in Doug Clark FTW!
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by j14 on Nov 7, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd still put priority number 1 as trading Molina....
Boston, NYM, Angels, Blue Jays, Phillies, Brewers, Tigers, and Reds all need a catcher and outside of Texas and the high prices that will come there, Molina is the next best option.
by NeifiChicken on Nov 7, 2008 2:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
dunno about priority #1, but I agree that the market seems right to deal B-money.
by BigO on Nov 7, 2008 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Note: the original astronaut on the Bocock rocket burned up upon reentry.
I wonder if doctor’s will ever be able to put that astronaut back on track.
by deuce deuce on Nov 7, 2008 3:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pucetas
Did I miss something? Is there talk of him jumping from San Jose to San Francisco?
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by leftymalo on Nov 7, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Mark Mulder
So he can party with Ace Barry Zito.
by wilriv21 on Nov 7, 2008 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
May as well go after Hudson too
we can party like it’s 2003. I was going to say 2002 but all partying references must be routed away from that year.
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by UnleashTheGore on Nov 7, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mychael Urban
Will get on his knees… and start writing another book – Pocket Aces
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 7, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mychael Urban
I used to really like him, until I found out his name was spelled that way (ie, just now.)
I’m fickle like that
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by ThrillisGone22 on Nov 7, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna mention that too
along with bartolo colon? mike hampton?
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by theghostofjasonellison on Nov 7, 2008 6:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no trades no free agents
no 1b/3b no big name SP no trades…
so will ’09 Giants be the ’08 September Giants 2.0?
by cazzuno on Nov 7, 2008 4:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m all right with it.
See what we have, then upgrade where we need. It’s not like we’re going to contend if we sign some famous guy.
by oldjacket on Nov 7, 2008 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
5th spot in rotation
Hope SF considers Merkin Valdez for a spot in the rotation. Groom as a starter during spring training and if all else fails he can return to bullpen. Would prefer Pucetas be given a little more seasoning at the upper levels of minors.
by wilriv21 on Nov 7, 2008 4:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i like merkin, but with his injury history i think he’s stuck as a ’pen guy
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by theghostofjasonellison on Nov 7, 2008 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pucetas
How does one pronounce that?
I remember seeing something a while ago, but not sure if a definitive version had been given…
by aGIANTfan on Nov 7, 2008 10:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Poo-Say-Tus
I believe
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by groug on Nov 7, 2008 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always read it Poo-che-tus. I have always thought that was wrong but couldnt figure out how else to say it.
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by jbowl on Nov 8, 2008 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A vote for Martinez over Pucetas
He’s the best they have above High-A and deserves a shot for the 5 slot. And a ground-ball pitcher as well. They need to sign Beimel and maybe Eyre.
I am still intrigued by Beltre at 3B and/or Blalock at 1B as one-year options to get us to 2010, since Furcal and probably Hudson have been priced out of our range, and we have internal options up the middle whose offensive shortcomings would be offset by power at the corners. I would trade Bengie if I could and go with Pablo, but keep Winn until the deadline.
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by Buck Henry on Nov 7, 2008 10:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i think our infield will be pretty averagish/below for a gb pitcher
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by jasomack on Nov 8, 2008 3:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That offense is just
too much surrender for me. I mean, if everything breaks right it’s still maybe average.
A fifth starter just seems, if you’ll forgive the expression, lipstick on a pig. I wouldnt’ mind spending money on a reliever or two if we could find some good value.
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by zenbitz on Nov 8, 2008 9:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
On Starting Bottom of the Rotation Dumper Dive : It’s not so much lipstick on a pig as lemonade out of tons of lemons. Or hundreds of loaves of Zucchini bread once friends, neighbors, coworkers and others shudder at seeing you approach with a bag of them.
On Infield offense: You see the glass as half empty. I see the glass as working towards the danger of being half full . For the first time in years. To be fair I’ll be happy with better then average Infield production on either side of the ball.
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by daveinexile on Nov 9, 2008 8:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when Grant is wrong.
I’m not that concerned about the rotation. Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez and Zito are fine as the first four, and if nothing better comes along, Pat Misch/Noah Lowry/waiver pickups can compete for the last spot. I’m not saying that’s a contending rotation, but I think it’s adequate for now.
My top priority would be an infielder, one who plays either up the middle or at third. Rafael Furcal, J.J. Hardy and Brandon Wood are my current favorites to target. Maybe Adrian Beltre as a free agent next year.
by Dan from NM on Nov 8, 2008 12:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez and Zito are fine as the first four
See, I don’t really believe that. Lincecum and Cain are fine as the first two. They’re great as the first two. Almost any team would be thrilled to have them as the first two.
Sanchez is a giant (Giant?) question mark. He might be very good, or he might be awful. Remember, for every Johan Santana who realizes his potential there are fifty Brett Tomkos who have all the talent in the world and can never put it together. The team hasn’t helped Sanchez by jerking him around so much, but what’s done there is done. He hasn’t shown he can perform at a high level over more than half a season. Let’s see that before he’s Ace Number Three.
Barry Zito is awful and will continue to be awful. He improved in the second half last year too. The difference is that he was worse in the first half this year, so he looked better. He is not fine in any spot in the rotation.
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by groug on Nov 8, 2008 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No real disagreements here… Sanchez would be best slotted as an intriguing #4, and Zito pitches like a #5, if that. We are a pitcher away from have an elite-level rotation. We are four hitters away from having an elite-level lineup, so that should probably take precedence.
Given the actual array of FA talent, though, I more or less agree with Grant. The commodity we need most — decent infielders — is in short supply, and the commodity we need least — decent starting pitching — is available in abundance. Given the landscape, we should be looking to sign arms and trade for bats.
by onlxn on Nov 8, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
honestly, i think we should stay away from FA this year (and possibly next) with the one exception being possibly Sabathia. Sabathia would let us slot sanchez as #4 and zito as #5, and eventually as a bullpen guy once alderson is ready. It also gives us the chance to trade one of our pitchers, most preferrably sanchez if he improves next season, for cheaper, younger hitting. A rotation of Lincecum, Cain, Sabathia, and Alderson (i’m expecting alderson in 2010, bumgarner 2011) and some fifth starter in 2010 with our young hitters starting to filter through and a hitter or two from the sanchez trade would be pretty dominant
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by theghostofjasonellison on Nov 8, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or
If Sabathia gets hurt, or goes Zito on us, our team is completely fucked for the next 5 years.
by FairweatherFan on Nov 8, 2008 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's logical and all
But I can’t think of a single way that Sabathia could ever get hurt or fatigued in any way. I mean, he has absolutely no history of arm problems and he’s never been egregiously abused in-season. The guy’s a sure thing!
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by howtheyscored on Nov 8, 2008 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Former Cy Young winning lefty with Bay Area ties! We can’t go wrong!
by Natto on Nov 8, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think CC's going to be modelling Jeans anytime soon, however.
by FairweatherFan on Nov 8, 2008 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus sized clothing has a market, you know.
Nothing to remind you of that than having dated a fat chick.
This.
by Blicks on Nov 9, 2008 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or having been a fat dude.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Nov 10, 2008 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
CC's peripherals check out a LOT better than Barry's though.
He’s not purely a product of a pitcher’s park, like Zito.
This.
by Blicks on Nov 9, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The only problem I have with this is our #5 starters were somewhere around 1-90 for the season. It would be nice to double that win total with someone.
by paboperfecto on Nov 10, 2008 7:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great stuff... Grant
I agree we need a decent 4th or 5th starter. Instead of over paying for an aging veteran… why not get a AAAA or waiver wire pitcher to fill in the gap. I think “rocket Bocock” has made its last flight. Hopefully, we won’t see anymore high A’s to the bigs promotion this year. Why not put Sands at 1B and keep Aurillia for another year? How many days until spring training?
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by Baybear on Nov 9, 2008 9:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
shouldn't it be called a "Bococket"?
btw, I miss that guy. i hardly got to Knowcock…
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Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
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