A's Reportedly Offer Furcal 4/48 deal
"Rafael Furcal told El Caribe that the A’s have offered him a four-year contract worth $48 million that could reach $50 million including incentives. It’s an interesting offer, as it gives Furcal the length he is desiring in a contract, but the guaranteed money is less in average annual value than the three-year, $39 million contract he played for with the Dodgers. Furcal also said that the New York Mets have offered him a contract. Reportedly, he is returning from the Dominican to weigh the offers with his agent."
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Time to fold. Sabean can’t give a guy with back problems a 4 year deal, right?
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Nov 24, 2008 6:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think Edgardo Alfonzo and his back issues got a 4 year deal.
by seyheystretch on Nov 24, 2008 7:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully that means Furcal in an A’s shirt next year then. I’m not overly keen on Furcal, but certainly wouldn’t mind him at the right price. 4/$48 is certainly more than i’d be willing to give him though.
It’s interesting though, that Furcal can have an injury plagued following a poor year & still get a big contract.
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by GiantFan on Nov 24, 2008 6:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well the best short stops due to hit the free agent market in the next 2 years are:
Tejada, Jack Wilson, Khalil Green, Bobby Crosby, , maybe Marco Scutaro and any one that sings a 1 or 2 years agreement out of Rentaria, Ceaser Izturius & Furcal.
Not a lot to drool over there.
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by daveinexile on Nov 24, 2008 8:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i meant to say that his possible contract is an indictment of the poor quality of shortstops available. As you mention, that’s a whole pile of, not so good shortstops!
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by GiantFan on Nov 24, 2008 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But be wary of the alternatives
That might mean Renteria is coming. I’d sooner go with Orlando Hudson at 2nd, Buriss at short, and perhaps Frandsen at 3rd with Pablo at first. The Pablo can alternate with 3rd base if Ishikawa or Phelps get some time at first, but its Sandoval that is the everyday player.
Still no pop in the line up, so this also means that Manny is coming to town, to the chagrin of Lewis.
by pittsburghian on Nov 24, 2008 7:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I guess with Renteria it depends on what contract he’d require or whether Detroit offers him arbitration. If he didn’t cost a draft pick & could be had on a shorter, cheaper, deal, then it wouldn’t be so bad.
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by GiantFan on Nov 24, 2008 7:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How come Sabean would be an idiot for giving Furcal 4 years 48 million, but Billy Beane is still a genius?? I’m still not putting that much stock into this report, because of the Met rumor. I don’t believe he has an offer from the Mets to play second base. Omar Minaya still has Luis Castillo with three years left on his contract, and just said over the weekend that he met with Castillo, and has decided to give him one more chance as the regular second baseman.
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by rxmeister on Nov 24, 2008 7:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
How’s calling Beane a genius? I missed that.
/deer head
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by xanthan on Nov 24, 2008 7:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think RX has a point
There does seem to be a double standard whenever Beane does anything. If this deal does go through at 4 years, people are going to be lining up to call it a great signing.
The exact same deal would get Sabean roasted over an open flame until his skin was crispy and lightly pink on the inside.
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 24, 2008 7:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but nobody was saying OMG BEANEZ A GENUZ. Paying Furcal $12M per season is about the right value for what he’s worth. That’s assuming he’s healthy — which I guess team doctors should know — and an average defender at SS.
I wouldn’t roast Sabean if he did a 4/48 deal.
/deer head
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by xanthan on Nov 24, 2008 7:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is were start getting in the putting a beans in to pot type scenario. In and of its self that last bean the tops the pot over can be perfectly good. But combines with the other beans already in the pot is it wise to add another?
Maybe I am overly fearful of this front office having a 90M-110M payroll producing under 85 wins. I could see them selling off all the wrong players in 2010-2012 just to "balance" the books.
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by daveinexile on Nov 24, 2008 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
all the players projected to be good in those years are all young and should be making low salaries. It’s not like they’re going to deal Tim Lincecum or Pablo Sandoval because they are paying too much money to Barry Zito. Those players won’t be making that much anyway. It would be players like Furcal, Rowand, and Zito that they would be trying to move anyway if that day ever comes.
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by rxmeister on Nov 24, 2008 8:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be players like Furcal, Rowand, and Zito that they would be trying to move anyway if that day ever comes
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Yes, but unless this winter & next create a new crop of very poor contracts exactly who will be intrested? I predict very,very few.
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by daveinexile on Nov 24, 2008 9:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum is arb eligible in 2010, so I’m pretty sure that he’s going to be making more money than Furcal and Rowand by 2012.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 24, 2008 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think at Athletics Nation they say he’s a genius. When I heard about the Harden trade, I thought it was lunacy and they were getting ripped off. Now Holliday for a year-rental, and a Sabeanesque signing attempt at brokeback furcal, I feel like hes completely random/crazy compared to usual and noone calls him out for this psuedo-rebuilding/reloading the way everyone does with Sabean.
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 24, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Beane = Championships
Oh wait…
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 24, 2008 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of folks around here certainly like Beane, but none thinks he can do no wrong.
by Natto on Nov 24, 2008 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he can do no wrong.
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by WalrusMan on Nov 24, 2008 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fanshots
I used to never read fanshots, but have you noticed lately that they’re more interesting than fanposts?? No offense to the posters who are working hard to produce them, but wake me up when all the zips, marcels and olivers are over and after the post about Giants’ community prospect number 733.
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by rxmeister on Nov 24, 2008 9:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I loves me some Fanshots.
The lazy usually stay above the in the posts and interesting tid bits ( ie flying deer heads, links to more advanced stats work etc) tend to arrive here first. If you stumble across something neat you can get it out there for comment even if you don’t have the time to expand on the work by adding content to it.
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by daveinexile on Nov 24, 2008 9:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i would not be surprised if he gets less cion then that. I think he would be all over 10M/year.
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by daveinexile on Nov 24, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have Manny Burriss and a 2nd round pick (near the top of the 2nd round) than Edgar Rentaplaya.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 24, 2008 10:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why not both?
December 1, 2008 clubs must make a decision whether to offer a player arbitration. Detroit has said it will not offer Renteria arbitration so on December 2 Sabean could sign Renteria and not forfeit a second round pick
by wilriv21 on Nov 24, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it’s between the A’s and the Mets:
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2008/11/24/rafael-furcal-mulls-two-tempting-offers/
by cheno on Nov 24, 2008 10:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Mets? o_O I guess he’d play second for them, but do they have no other options?
by Natto on Nov 24, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear this guy hits doubles
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by j14 on Nov 24, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Serial Rally Killer Spotting!
our own lil Dexter. But not as cute, smart or effecaint.
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by daveinexile on Nov 24, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
EDGAR RENTERIA HERE WE COME
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by jponry on Nov 24, 2008 11:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
that’s good.
nothing about that article made sense.
by oldjacket on Nov 24, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like he ate a sheet of paper with reports and rumors, then vomited it on his computer screen.
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 24, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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