Projecting the Giants hitters: the Olivers
by baetown415 on Nov 21, 2008 11:00 AM PST
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I'm actually not too familiar with Brian Cartwright's Oliver system, but using information from these two sites, it's supposed to be slightly more advanced than the Marcels, including some minor league and batted ball data. Someone, preferably a non-computer, correct me if I'm wrong.
Looking at our favorite targets using batting average/on-base average/slugging average and weighted on-base average (which I think was .333 for an average hitter last season. correct me if i'm wrong again. humans only):
Manny Burriss: .262/.316/.324 for a wOBA of .291 (ouch)
Pablito: .290/.318/.453 for a wOBA of .332. That's kind of Meh
"Scott": .273/.331/.434 for a wOBA of .335
I have to run to class, but these projections so far have me more pessimistic about 2009 than I already was.
What do you all think?
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btw
I didn’t make the links pop up in a new tab/window, so you’re going to have to do that manually. sorry
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
I greatly prefer it this way, myself. Personally, if I want my link to open in a new window/tab, I can do that myself. It’s called right click.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Nov 21, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
What is this right click you speak of, PC-breath?
Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.
Right click is convenience itself.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Nov 22, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
MACS R EVIL
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PCs are just dumb.
Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.
This is the correct way to do things. Everyone else is wrong because I say so.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
Interesting, thanks for the link. I’ll download them into Excel and run around in the projections later. I’m not surprised that it’s more critical of Manny if it’s using some sort of minor league data to help it’s forecasts.
/deer head
Bay City Ball
Marcel…Oliver…
I am eagerly awaiting the Mary Poppins projections!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 21, 2008 11:41 AM PST reply actions
Supercalifragalisticexpialidocious
I’m afraid the Giants’ hitting will be quite a atrocious.
If you watch them long enough you’ll end up acrimonious
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Olivers fun projection game!
According to these projections the Giants have two hitters projecting an OPS of over .800.
500 McCoven Clams to the first person to guess them both!
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
Fred Lewis and Scott McClain!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 21, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Kirk Rueter and Johnnie LeMaster
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Ishikawa and Rowand
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
Phelps and Ishi
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
actually there are 3
not all current Giants are listed in SFN.
But something is quite odd about those projections; of the top 7 projected hitters (9 if you include the 3rd .800 OPS guy, although he is projected to a different park?), NONE of them were starters last year, and only 2 saw any time on the MLB team.
The 8-9-10th projections are Rowand, Sandoval and Winn.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
also
Angel Villalona is projected to out hit Bengie Molina!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
Oliver projects that the Giants' offense won't win any laurels
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
nor Hardy
Molina's gonna test his arm...
by Victorious Secret on Nov 21, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Olivers?
I’m Darren you not to take it Al so seriously.
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these are brutal
but I expect Zips will say the same.
The sad part is that they don’t even look much better when you replace our infielders with the likes of Hudson, Furcal, Beltre, etc.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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