What are we going to do about Dave Roberts?
by curtman02 on Nov 20, 2008 9:58 AM PST
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I can’t believe this guy is going to be into us for $6.5 million this year! Someone please tell me this guy has some sort of upside. Most people are concerned about Zito. He will improve. Roberts … not so much. Omar Vizquel hit better than this guy last season and cost less! How in the world can we cut this guy loose? The Giants have trim some of the fat this off season. Another way of going about that would be to trade away Winn. He’s been valuable so far, but we have other big bats to fill that role, i.e. Schierholtz. Once the cuts have been made the Giants can finally shop for a legitimate back up outfielder.
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If Lewis isn’t readu to start the season, he’s a decent 4th OF and could start in LF if the right deal for Winn comes along.
I think you’d have to eat the majority of his salary (or take on an equally bad one) to move him.
Yes we did!
by Goofus on Nov 20, 2008 10:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What are we going to do about Dave Roberts?
I say we go back in time and not sign him
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 20, 2008 10:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Win
The only possible reply :-)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on Nov 20, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And while you're at it...
…be sure to kill Scott Spezio’s dad.
Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.
by EliminateMe on Nov 20, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a good thing to do even now, I think.
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by jcb9 on Nov 20, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but then the world would never get to experience the music of Sandfrog
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 20, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What do we do about Roberts?
Close our eyes and hope he goes away?
Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.
by Lyle on Nov 22, 2008 7:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All you have to do is grab onto him and then wake up. Then he’ll be in the real world and you can fail to do something about him on your own turf.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2008 10:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
perhaps...
Perhaps ‘we’ wasn’t the best word. It’s just still mind-boggling to me that the Giants are paying out $6.5 million for almost no return.
by curtman02 on Nov 20, 2008 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I agree. I just have Nightmare on Elm Street on the brain. I saw an opportunity, so I took it.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One, two, Davey’s comin’ for you!
by rotorueter on Nov 20, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Four Words...
Bigger Fish To Fry
The Dave Roberts “problem” is like a little tiny rock in your shoe. It’s an annoyance, but does not cause any major damage. It will also be gone when you take off your shoe (the end of 2009).
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on Nov 20, 2008 10:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
whereas
The Dave Roberts "problem" is like a little tiny rock in your shoe
the Zito problem is like gangrene growing on your entire hip… let’s take care of this issue first.
Zito + Alderson + 20M to texas for one of their four promising catchers.
Molina to Whoever for an infielder.
Sign CC.
Success.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Nov 20, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
while i can see the merits of dumping zito, why are we sending him to Texas for a catcher? Of all the positions where we could use help, catcher is probably dead last in my eye.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 20, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my figuring, see...
is that the rangers would covet alderson and only trade from a position of depth (catcher) if he comes with the pricetag of zito-assumption. and i wouldn’t want to give alderson away just to get rid of zito, so getting something of value back would be key. i figure we’d basically be trading alderson for cc and a catcher, which would be a win.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Nov 20, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Zito is more like a bunion cold sore.
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 20, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Zito is more like a bunion cold canker sore.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Nov 20, 2008 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this!
Zito’s contract is like herpes: It’s unslightly, embarassing, and goes on forever.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
by Goofus on Nov 21, 2008 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
too bad we can’t pass it on to someone else
by wilriv21 on Nov 21, 2008 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, even if we did give it to somebody else, we’d still have it anyway.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Nov 22, 2008 12:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but at least we’d have the pleasure of f**king another team.
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by Goofus on Nov 24, 2008 8:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
even if you have no signs of an outbreak, it still may be possible to pass on Zito’s contract to your partner
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 21, 2008 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just get something straight.....
Zito is not going anywhere unless the Giants pick up 95% of the amount due under his contract. So stop suggesting trades involving Zito that have a snowball’s chance in hell of actually happening.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Nov 20, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure the same thing was said about mike hampton...
and he has coming off a 7-15, 6.15ERA year when he was traded. and, oddly enough, it was done without 95% of the amount due under his contract.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Nov 21, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/Stamped Approved
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Nov 20, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade him to the Red Sawks
He stole a base for them once
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 20, 2008 10:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 20, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The master blaster was on the Red Sox??
by Natto on Nov 20, 2008 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wicked awesome Master Blaster run Beantown.
Yes we did!
by Goofus on Nov 20, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We Are stuck with Roberts for another year
Who will want to spend $6.5M on Roberts (except us)? We have a log jam in the outfield of Sabes making. I think our best hope is trade Rowand, move Winn to center, and give Nate a legit shot at right. Rowand, of course, has a no trade clause in place for next year, but with enough money, and to the right team (Yanks?) he might say yes. Winn plays center for a year, and maybe we get an extra first round draft pick when he leaves. Roberts is fourth outfielder, and leaves at the end of next year.
by Sblantonus2002 on Nov 20, 2008 10:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The ovation he got when we played in Boston.
by StickRat on Nov 20, 2008 10:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Old Yeller
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Nov 20, 2008 10:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What do do about Dave Roberts?
Step 1: Drop pants
Step 2: Bend over
Step 3: Grin and bear it.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 20, 2008 10:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
or
spread your legs and think of England!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
by zenbitz on Nov 20, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think of Englund while you're having sex?? No thanks!!
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
by rxmeister on Nov 21, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Step 3: Profit!
I might have done that wrong
proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..
by Azmanz on Nov 20, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like him off the bench a lot actually
Great speed for pinch running. Good defense in LF. Can draw a walk and get on base.
Those are all valuable skills, just not worth 6.5 million
by NeifiChicken on Nov 20, 2008 11:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think this is the right answer
the $6.5 million is a sunk cost, and we can bitch about that all we want. Now that we are where we are, he can actually be a nice bench player.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 20, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s probably worth more than what we’d have to eat to get rid of him.
If, by some fluke, we’re competing in the division, hed be wonderful to have around and as pinch-hitting/running specialist.
Yes we did!
by Goofus on Nov 20, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
I just don’t trust Bochy to make him a bench player full-time.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 20, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s a fair argument…Boch loves him
by NeifiChicken on Nov 20, 2008 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone please tell me this guy has some sort of upside.
Most people are concerned about Zito. He will improve.
Omar Vizquel hit better than this guy last season and cost less!
lol wut
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Nov 20, 2008 12:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, clearly .222/.283/.267 > .224/.341/.280.
Never has a poster been more correct in the history of the internet. Ever! - ResDog on yours truly
by jcb9 on Nov 20, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 20, 2008 12:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh a new member of the Human Rescores Dept!
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Nov 20, 2008 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we can’t actually take him out back and shoot him, so fifth outfielder it is.
by Evan on Nov 20, 2008 1:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OK, but I’ve only got a five on me right now.
by Natto on Nov 20, 2008 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well we can’t sweep him under the rug…
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Nov 20, 2008 1:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't rule this out
He is pretty small.
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 20, 2008 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
PUT HIM IN A BODY BAG JOHNNY
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 20, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Designate for assignment?
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil.
by BrianBokake on Nov 20, 2008 3:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I traded him for Adrian Beltre in Wii Power Pros. I suggest the Giants try that.
by Change Up on Nov 20, 2008 4:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What are we going to do about Dave Roberts?
HE’S
A
BUM!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 20, 2008 4:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I forgot he was even on the roster
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Nov 20, 2008 5:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Trade him to the Yankees for ARod and Phil Hughes.
by Rusty the Robot on Nov 20, 2008 6:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Did he go on the DL in the time it took me to type that?
by Rusty the Robot on Nov 20, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand all the hatred of Dave Roberts. Why hate him because Brian Sabean paid him too much money?? He’s not a bad player, he’s just way overpaid. It seemed like everytime he came off the bench as a pinch hitter last year he would get a hit or a walk. His on base pct the last two months was about .380 and that’s basically what he gets paid to do. Let him sit on the bench and pinch hit and pinch run.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
by rxmeister on Nov 21, 2008 5:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t hate him.
His skillset is just kinda mismatched for this team. A platoon lefty backing up another lefty isn’t the best use of roster space. Roberts on the Giants is like tits on a peacock.
by oldjacket on Nov 21, 2008 7:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
im intrigued...
by this tits on a peacock proposal..how does it work?
im adopting "insert 37th pick's name here"
by Headhunter Rollins on Nov 21, 2008 8:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vegas Show girl or Mardi Gras celebrator?
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Nov 21, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
jenny mcarthy on nbc?
im adopting "insert 37th pick's name here"
by Headhunter Rollins on Nov 21, 2008 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, but Freddie Lewis, Nate Schierholtz and John Bowker weren’t here when he signed Roberts. It just turned out that way. It’s just one more year, no reason to beat ourselves up about it.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
by rxmeister on Nov 21, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a stupidly small sample, but I thought I’d post it anyways.
Dave Roberts PH stats in ’08: .176/.318/.235
/deer head
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Nov 21, 2008 7:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG ISO OBP!
by FairweatherFan on Nov 21, 2008 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I get the feeling
that this time next year no one will be talking about how Dave Robert’s contract was a major reason why the Giants didn’t compete in 2009. Sure he is over paid but this team has much bigger issues to deal with. Roberts will be gone in 10 months, Zito and Rowand will not.
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Nov 21, 2008 9:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Frankly
I feel the same way about Rowand.
Overpaid? Yes. Counter productive? No.
by FairweatherFan on Nov 21, 2008 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No but if Nate is out of options that spot on the 25 man becomes real controversial.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Nov 22, 2008 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How so? Do you think the team is only going to carry 4 OFs?
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by Goofus on Nov 24, 2008 8:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Nate is carried will he see playing time before August with Roberts “to show case”? I would love to see the 4 man rotaion you proposed in the waning days of ’08 but I’ve seen Boulder Skull’s 4 man outfield rotation and it was nothing like that.
And I think 4 OF are is real possible because we trips to Coors with no days off near them and our infield situation is really unsettled.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Nov 24, 2008 8:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
reply fail - ment to Goofus above.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
Here comes Captain Obvious wearing his Atomic Wedgie!
by daveinexile on Nov 24, 2008 8:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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