Just wondering if the context/ intent of your post was to ask the community what we might get in exchange for Randy Winn or ________?

FTR, I am fine with trading Winn. I do not think he should be considered part of our mid-term plans so let’s deal him while we might get something of mid- or long-term value in return. (Ditto Molina, etc.)

The defense is debatable, but I think it’s safe to say Winn is clearly the better hitter.

I believe Winn has slightly better trade value, although not by much. Mainly because of consistency, seeing as Crisp was much worse in 06-07 than he was in 08, whereas Winn’s performance the last two years was stable and in line with his career averages.

Then again Chris Dial’s OPD ratings have Winn at 15.3 and Crisp at -17.52, which obviously makes Winn out to be a much better player.

I don’t think that’s really a true measure of their relative values. That just shows the degree of which defensive stats can vary.

Then again, Crisp does have an extra year on his contract, which is probably attractive.

I think we could trade Winn to a team like the Braves and get an nice package of undervalued prospects. A deal I’ve mentioned a few times is Brent Lillibridge and Chuck James for Winn. ATL gets a productive, versatile OF and all they give up is prospects who have floudnered in the last year.

I still think James has a decent chance to be a good pitcher (he was in 06 and 07) and a change of scenery might help that. Lillibridge still has the talent and we certainly have a vacancy at SS. It’s not like ATL has plans for him with Yunel seemingly in place

I just wanted to partially dispel the myth that Winn can’t defend in CF.

Anytime he’s logged significant time in CF, he’s been above average. In ‘04 he was a +12 and in ’06 (in a smaller 441 innings) he was a +12. I had his ’05 plus/minus scores in CF but I can’t find them, but I think they were average to slightly above.

I have no problem thinking he could be an average CF defensively if given the chance.

If that’s all we could get, hold onto Winn and hope some team is willing to overpay at the deadline.

Not really related to the subject of the post, but I continue to be unimpressed by Dayton Moore

Winn’s trade value isn’t high, because I think most teams see him as a corner outfielder with no power.

is that Fred Lewis’s foot surgery isn’t guaranteed to heal by opening day. Depends on how extensive it was. Read here for more gruesome details. Point is, the Giants might wait to see how he progresses this winter before trading one of their outfielders.

Not sure he has enough bat to man RF everyday for Tampa Bay, but I’d like to see the Giants try and acquire Edwin Jackson or Jeff Niemann for the rotation.

Giants might have to add cash and/or another player, but the basis of the deal could help both teams.

Anyone know if Winn kept any roots in Tampa?

I just posted a Winn-to-the-Cubs deal over at Lefty’s site. Actually, so did Lefty.

he doesn’t really address Winn directly but he says:

Ross (CA): I was wondering what you estimate some of the Giant’s veterans trade value to be? It seems that Randy Winn and Bengie Molina could have some decent value if Sabean decides to shop them.

 Keith Law: Molina more than Winn. If you have a non-sucky veteran catcher you don’t mind parting with, this is the time to move him. I would assume the Orioles would trade Ramon Hernandez for a fair return, with Wieters coming, and the Giants could fake it back there for a year or so while they wait for the Posey train.