Giants Hitters -- Winter League Stats
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 9:19 AM PST
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| Player | AVG | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SO | BB | SB | CS | OBP | SLG | OPS |
| Alfonzo, Eliezer | 0.333 | 30 | 102 | 18 | 34 | 6 | 0 | 8 | 21 | 26 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 0.397 | 0.627 | 1.024 |
| Burriss, Emmanuel | 0.318 | 24 | 85 | 17 | 27 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 10 | 11 | 4 | 7 | 2 | 0.370 | 0.376 | 0.746 |
| Copeland, Ben | 0.275 | 14 | 51 | 10 | 14 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 7 | 9 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0.367 | 0.510 | 0.876 |
| Frandsen, Kevin | 0.331 | 30 | 124 | 25 | 41 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 17 | 13 | 6 | 10 | 3 | 0.391 | 0.427 | 0.819 |
| Kieschnick, Roger | 0.236 | 32 | 110 | 15 | 26 | 5 | 2 | 6 | 25 | 46 | 16 | 0 | 0 | 0.333 | 0.482 | 0.815 |
| Posey, Buster | 0.338 | 19 | 74 | 15 | 25 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 15 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0.405 | 0.392 | 0.797 |
| Rohlinger, Ryan | 0.241 | 14 | 54 | 5 | 13 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 11 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0.317 | 0.370 | 0.687 |
| Sandoval, Pablo | 0.411 | 23 | 90 | 18 | 37 | 6 | 1 | 9 | 23 | 9 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0.461 | 0.800 | 1.261 |
Hopefully my attempt at importing some WL stats is successful. I've extracted these from MLB.com, eliminated some columns of marginal importance, and taken out hitters with less than 50 ABs. Thought it might be interesting for anyone who might not be tracking this stuff, and certainly might prompt some conversation(s) within this entertaining site.
One thing that jumped out at me is the catcher slot. Not to start a firestorm -- because I know we all love Bengie -- but in the blogsite's myriad trade discussions, what about the thought of dealing Bengie while he's arguably among the top 5 catchers in the NL? Lots of clubs out there need a solid catcher, and we have Sandoval & Alonzo that would be a fine tandem there...and the possibility of Posey sticking there makes it even more interesting. If we could turn Bengie into a nice SP, 1B, or, OF...maybe it's worth a thought. So, chew on these data, take a sip of tea, and talk amongst yourselves.
Oh, and I'll try to do the same thing for our pitchers later today...
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I agree with you
We need to trade Molina, move Pablo to catcher full time and get a real 3rd basemen. Some club out there will see Molinas RBIs and think he’s a good offensive player(when he’s really the opposite), make a deal while his value is still high.
by superk1ng on Nov 19, 2008 9:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I just shuddered at the thought of watching Alfonzo play defense all season…
by tyrannoman on Nov 19, 2008 9:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
AlfonzNO
He destroyed VWL last year too, and then pooped on himself all year long.
STEVE HOLM! is where it’s at.
by oldjacket on Nov 19, 2008 9:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
+1,009
My bad…you’re absolutely right. Holm would clearly be a better back-up to Sandoval. He just wasn’t on my spreadsheet.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Notgardo..
now AlfonzNO. Sweet :-)
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eliezer is the road that you must travel.
Yes we did!
by Goofus on Nov 19, 2008 9:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nicely done
Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.
by Lyle on Nov 21, 2008 9:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Holm!
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by WalrusMan on Nov 19, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
who are you guys talking abou—
STEVE HOLM!
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 19, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Alfonzo is no longer in the organization
and Buster hit a home run on Sunday, so the stats aren’t correct.
by joe t on Nov 19, 2008 9:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pulled from MLB.com this morning.
Sorry if they’re not 100% current/accurate.
What happened to AlfonzNO? I missed the news.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 10:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buster’s home run came in the post season, so it’s not included in regular stats.
by Dan from NM on Nov 19, 2008 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to go out on a limb here
and suggest that maybe 100 PAs in winter league aren’t enough to make ANY roster decisions by.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
by zenbitz on Nov 19, 2008 10:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hereby nominate Zenbitz for President of the Giants_Junkie Fan Club!
You are snarky, aren’t you? Watch out, that limb’s cracking…
Hopefully you’ll find some relief in the companion post to this one, where I readily acknowledge the small sample size (yada*3). Sorry I didn’t do that here. Trying to generate some chatter…nothing more, nothing less. If I were in a position to actually make roster decisions, I wouldn’t be here…but I’m guessing none of us are in a position to make decisions for the Giants, so bear with us as we gather together, huddled against the winter chill, in search of … whatever…
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the plus side:
You fan posts are at least worth commenting on… which is more than I can say for some!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
by zenbitz on Nov 19, 2008 12:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are snarky, aren’t you?
I love it that it’s one of the first things n00bs find out about this place. We should make a FAQ:
- Yes, zenbitz is snarky.
- Yes, jponry is a girl.
- Yes, xanthan is a spambot.
- No, we don’t know why rexmiester uses two question marks instead of one.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 19, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, wilriv likes the Asians.
Yes, Goofus and Howtheyscored are . . . ?
by oldjacket on Nov 19, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Goofus and Howtheyscored are . . .
Romosexuals?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Nov 19, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad at jokes?
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Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s some profiling. Who would cops pull over first?
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 19, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, jponry is a girl.
Pics or it didn’t happen
My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Nov 19, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Walrusman is half man and half walrus. He pretty much looks like a normal man except for the flippers and inverted penis.
Yes we did!
by Goofus on Nov 19, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey hey..
We have the largest peni in the business.
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by WalrusMan on Nov 19, 2008 8:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you guys have penis bones. Its pretty terrifying.
by milkman41 on Nov 20, 2008 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
EME is sipping Pina Coladas on La Isla Verde
and he is smashing the beisbol around too. Esteve-Martinez is playing winter ball for Carolina in Puerto RIcan Winter League and doing very well. Since the league is less than 10 games old EME does not yet have the required 50 ABs.
by wilriv21 on Nov 19, 2008 10:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
EME is to me this year what Ishikawa was to me last year. He’ll need a similar turnaround to impress me.
by oldjacket on Nov 19, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that is a more than fair assessment
by wilriv21 on Nov 19, 2008 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
EME is the Latin Juan Pierre.
Without a defensive position.
Yeah, I said it.
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Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Nov 19, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Delicous singles
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Nov 19, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man was his 2004-2005 sweet though. Fucking shoulder injuries.
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by marcello on Nov 19, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, those were the days.
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by xanthan on Nov 19, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why the Giants should have dumped Connecticut and Dodd Stadium
EME 2008:
Home: .266/..387/.277/.664, 11 ISO, 0 HR in 184 AB
Away: .330/.391/.478/.869, 148 ISO, 6 HR in 209 AB, 35 AB/HR or about 15-20 HR in a season.
Not great but not too bad either.
The Giants should have ran screaming from Connecticut this year when they had the chance instead of signing up for two more years.
Oh, the main reason EME is not Juan Pierre: he takes a huge amount of walks, 54 walks, only 36 K, in 392 AB. Only the best hitters can get their strikeout rate below 10% (or above 90% contact rate), even fewer are able to combine that with more walks than strikeouts. At the major league level, hitters who can do that average hitting .300 regularly. Pierre don’t take many walks. In addition, EME is at 1.50 (54/36), which only the best of the best can do.
Furthermore, he had a horrible April, while he was still adjusting, then hit pretty much the same the rest of the season, suppressing his overall numbers even further: .254/.329/.296/.625 in April, .311/.403/..404/.807 the rest of the year. Plus he appeared to weaken in August, hitting only .293/.384/.333/.717 with drops in LD% and FB% over what he did previously in May to July. Perhaps with further strengthening, he will hit better in 2009.
However, ever since his injury in 2006, EME’s GB% has been around 60 percent in 2007 and 2008, but the good news relatively is that he got his LD% up nicely in 2008. Still, he is like Pierre in that he doesn’t hit for much power much of the time, just more than Pierre can muster when he is able to loft the ball up. And he improved in 2008 over 2007, in terms of HR power. Nathan took a couple of years to recover from his shoulder injury, perhaps EME just needs another year of recovery and strengthening.
In any case, he should get a promotion based on his road numbers but probably will be held back at AA, like Ishikawa was, due to his overall numbers. He really should be in AAA in 2009.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Nov 21, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
EME is Juan Pierre plus 60 points of OBP. That’s the difference between a good hitter and a terrible one.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 21, 2008 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but there’s nothing arguable in my comment.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 23, 2008 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That came out kind of dickish, but
Esteve’s wOBA this year was .362 – before the park adjustments. I’m not very high on him as a prospect, but you simply can’t deny that he hit well this year. I’m just really sick of people comparing him to Pierre – OBP is really important, and Esteve just demolishes Pierre in that department.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 23, 2008 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And now that you’ve armed me with minorleaguesplits.com:
EME’s park-adjusted line was .310/.398/.410 – that’s very good.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 23, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you do the MLE’s for his season his translates as: .249/.340/.323 which isn’t so hot. MLE’s aren’t the final word but if you check out the Oliver projections, EME’s line is very similar. Do you think he’s going to be OBPing .380+ in the big leagues? I can’t see it happening. Do you know how many players had an OBP of .380 or more in the majors last season? Just 27. And all of them except Rusell Martin and Ryan Theriot slugged over .400.
He might have 60 points of OBP on Juan Pierre at AA but I think the chances of him being a .380+ OBP player in the majors is extremely slim.
/deer head
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Nov 23, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
EME’s Olivers are very similar to Bowker’s. Both are 24 and play bad defense at a corner position. Would you call Bowker “Juan Pierre”? Wouldn’t you be upset if we gave up Bowker for free? Again I don’t think the he’s a great prospect, but he’s a much better hitter than what people give him credit for. And he’s really not similar at all to Juan Pierre.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 24, 2008 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say Bowker is a better defender in LF. He could probably play RF in a pinch, and he can fake 1B a couple of games a year.
Bowker has also hit for power more recently than EME, so no, I wouldn’t call him a singles machine. I’m by no means big on Bowker, but I’m even less enthralled with EME. If the Giants, a team devoid of hitting, doesn’t protect EME for the Rule 5, then what does that say about him? His health is so bad — staying healthy is a skill — and he can’t run, play defense, or probably hit for power any more than you’re expecting him to remain a high OBP player in the pros. I think it’s a hole bunch of hoping. He might be a better hitter than some give him credit for but he’s still not a very good overall player.
I’d love to be wrong on this.
/deer head
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Nov 24, 2008 8:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say Bowker is a better defender in LF
Why?
Bowker has also hit for power more recently than EME, so no, I wouldn’t call him a singles machine
Bowker hits for more power, EME gets on base more. At least EME has shown the ability to hit for power in the past, while Bowker has never shown plate discipline.
If the Giants, a team devoid of hitting, doesn’t protect EME for the Rule 5, then what does that say about him?
Terrible line of reasoning. The Giants, a team with good pitching, still chose to give Zito a huge contract, therefore Barry Zito is a fantastic pitcher. Not to mention that the Giants just gave away a decent hitting prospect for free a couple of weeks ago.
he can’t run, play defense, or probably hit for power any more than you’re expecting him to remain a high OBP player in the pros. I think it’s a hole bunch of hoping. He might be a better hitter than some give him credit for but he’s still not a very good overall player.
Again, I don’t think that he’s a very good prospect . I don’t expect him to keep a high OBP in the majors. But I think that it’s possible. More than that, though, I just don’t understand why people completely dis and insult him with Juan Pierre comparisons. He’s not a top 20, but he’s not trash.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 24, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Bowker hasn’t had multiple leg injuries. Being able to move around is a good thing for outfielders. Bowker was playing some CF in AA in ‘07. Of course I’m not saying he has any business in center, but it at least shows some athletic ability. Would a team ever consider playing EME in CF?
This is the most fascinating conversation I’ve ever had about EME.
/hits singles
We shall agree to disagree. I never called him “trash” so you can take that strawman somewhere else. He’s just perpetually injured, and not that good. His ‘05 was amazing and I’d argue that on a talent level, he blows Bowker away (if we want to continue in the vein of that comparison) but chances are that ’05 EME is never coming back.
I’ll look forward to his 2009 season.
/deer head
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Nov 24, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I never called him "trash" so you can take that strawman somewhere else
You said that EME is “Juan Pierre without a defensive position”.
Juan Pierre without a defensive position = trash.
Therefore, you said that EME is trash.
QED
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Nov 25, 2008 7:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Believe you me...
…I wanted to leave EME in the spreadsheet because his numbers are sure purdy…but I think I might have caused zenbitz’s forehead to split open, and I don’t want to cause anyone bodily harm. Glad you’re seeing EME’s nice start to the PR WL season, too…it is encouraging.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the kid has always been able to hit. Hopefully his health and strength returns and he turns some singles into doubles and some doubles into HRs
by wilriv21 on Nov 19, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully one day I’ll wake up and be really, really, ridiculously good looking.
One of these days!
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by xanthan on Nov 19, 2008 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like an iMac?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Nov 19, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure there’s a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking.
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
by SF Pete on Nov 19, 2008 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pray tell...what would that be?
;)
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BLOO STEAL!
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 19, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get your hopes up
I had to settle for “amazingly good looking”.
Yes we did!
by Goofus on Nov 19, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Burriss – Power machine
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by marcello on Nov 19, 2008 10:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What’s SLG, precious?
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by xanthan on Nov 19, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
.06 higher than his OBP!
It’s like the natural log of another player’s isolated power.
by oldjacket on Nov 19, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Franny!!!!
Kid is healthy and ready for his close-up.
by wilriv21 on Nov 19, 2008 10:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
best stat of the winter might be Frandsen’s 10 stolen bases. Nothing puts more pressure on an achilles tendon than the initial push-off toward second on a steal attempt.
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by leftymalo on Nov 19, 2008 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yea..
I’m still worried about his achilles tendon. Those are not the best things to break.
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by WalrusMan on Nov 19, 2008 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What are the best things to break?
Pray tell.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Nov 21, 2008 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Without a HBP column, Frandsen’s true value is being masked!
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Nov 19, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
7 HBP
ouch…
is he facing Edlefsen somehow?
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
by kennv on Nov 19, 2008 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rockin'...thanks.
I’m honored that my second-ever fanpost earned “recommended” status.
Hey, with all this success, maybe I should start my own blog…and maybe I could someday be as rich and famous and cool as caincecum (sorry, couldn’t resist).
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 11:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
dont forget Timlincecum.com
he’s pretty rich and famous too I think
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Nov 19, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
9 Walks in 100 PA's
for Pablito! That’s awesome. He could break 40 this year. Wait for for the fat pitches Toro and the HR’s will come!
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Nov 19, 2008 3:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I like the fact that his K:BB ratio is 1:1
Hopefully K-Frand can improve his patience at the plate (just 6 BB in 124 AB in AFL).
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 19, 2008 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Molina?
If we get a good deal for him, yes. We can get by with leftovers behind the plate this season.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Nov 19, 2008 4:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sandoval = leftovers?
what will prevent you from being destroyed by this angry mob here?
by oldjacket on Nov 19, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps by leftovers he meant extra food from the spread for Sandoval.
by Natto on Nov 19, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope there's extra food..
I’m hungry. And I still have about 3 hours until I’m out of classes to eat.
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by WalrusMan on Nov 20, 2008 9:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anatomy....? Physiology....?
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 20, 2008 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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