Giants Sign Affeldt
Per Baggs- THe giants have signed Jermey Affedlt to a two year deal. Terms are not yet available. Isn't affeldt a type A? is it worth a second rounder? It a question will it ad 1 win or 5 wins? Also, per mlbtraderumors we have tended an offer to furcal. Put me in the anti furcal category- bad side of thirty, bad back- no thank you. SO i hope that none else did this while i was typing, rather than dropping in random filler.
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Contract is:
a $1 million signing bonus, $3 million in 2009 and $4 million in 2010.
by silentearth36 on Nov 17, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
He's a type B I believe
which means we don’t lose a draft pick. I like Affeldt actually, so if the price isn’t insane this seems like a good deal.
I like the move
We give the Reds a sandwich pick, right?
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by NeifiChicken on Nov 17, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Five
Five dollar…five dollar foot long!
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 17, 2008 7:07 PM PST up reply actions

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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 18, 2008 7:49 AM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty cool with this.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
holy shit, I can’t believe Jeremy Affeldt is still only 30. It feels like he’s been around forever.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Word
That’s exactly what I said to myself when I read that. Depending on the cost, this looks like a good signing.
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29, actually.
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I just looked at his bb-ref and saw it said 29 for 2008, so I went with 30 for 2009
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
hopefully this prevents a beimel signing
according to fan graphs, affeldt was one of the better bargains this winter
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-bargain-jeremy-affeldt
by TimLincecumIsGod on Nov 17, 2008 11:53 AM PST reply actions
Why?
Sabes, who normally plays it extremely close to vest, explicitly stated relief help and middle infielders.
Yeah, but Affeldt is exactly the relief pitcher I would have gone after. I was expecting Beimel or something.
because it's good
With Sabes you expect stupidity, shrewdness comes off as a surprise
by NeifiChicken on Nov 17, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
from Hank (are you the only one that calls him that?)
The Giants have signed their first free agent this offseason, and while Jeremy Affeldt might not have the sex appeal of some of the bigger names on the market
sex appeal?

Tell me that ^ is not sexy.
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 17, 2008 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
I am actually okay with this signing.
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2008 11:59 AM PST reply actions
Still curious about the price tag. Throwing money on the bullpen when we have an offense that will prevent us from competing isn’t smart. So if Affeldt is relatively cheap & is the highest bullpen contract we pick up this offseason, then I’ll be happy.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
as long as it's under 10 million...
I’m fine with it, even 2 years, 9 million is a pretty good deal for Affeldt
by NeifiChicken on Nov 17, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Great Move
If we sign Beimel as well and get Furcal or Hudson then I will be very happy.
Throw in CC and I will be dancing in the streets/on the roof/what have you.
Hasheem "The Beat" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.
If we’re getting bailout money, would that then make the A’s food stamp recipients?
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by sectionop92 on Nov 17, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yikes
Calm down with the throwing money around all willy-nilly.
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Why'd you have to bring that up?
That’s just going to hurt now.
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I am Speedforthewin and I approve of this signing
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by Speedforthewin on Nov 17, 2008 12:02 PM PST reply actions
I think this signing rules out signing Beimel. Hinshaw should be in the pen in 2008. He’s too good not to be.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 17, 2008 12:04 PM PST reply actions
If they do keep Hinshaw in the majors...
…does Agent Taschner become expendable?
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by EliminateMe on Nov 17, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Affeldt in rotation?
He tried out for the Reds rotation last year, maybe the Giants promised a chance at the fifth spot?
Unlikely, but not impossible
Yeah, he’s a fastball / curve reliever.
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I think they key to Affeldt’s turnaround and finally realizing the potential that a lot of scouts saw in him is the fact that he has found his role as a reliever. Trying to convert him back to being a starter would be pretty stupid.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 17, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Some batted ball and outcome data for Affeldt's 2008 season:
PA K% BB% GB% FB% BABIP HR/FB 334 23.95 7.49 54 21.2 0.318 9.47
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I really didn’t realize what a solid year he had, somehow.
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Yeah, had a pretty nice season. He’s always had a good arm.
He also had a 3.66 FIP and 3.68 tRA.
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Kind of feel like the when a Giants pitching unit throws strikes. But not as shocking.
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by daveinexile on Nov 17, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Plus, his HR rate was a bit fluky-high, so when that regresses, and our park factors in, he should be in line for some very nice years.
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One note: HR/FB should be HR/BIA, they are different things.
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Affeldt it was only a matter of time before this begun.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
Affeldt sick as soon as I read this.
Just the comment, not the entire post.
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Affeldt a little ill when I saw all the pictures of the jockeys that were there before me.
Yes we did!
AFFELDT IS A RELIEF PITCHER
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http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/11/reds_lose_affeldt_to_giants.html
wow!!! 2 years/8 million??? How the hell did Sabes pull this signing….IN NOVEMBER!
BRIAN SABEAN IS A GENIUS
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Where is Josh when we need him!
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In shock?
I know I still am. I mean this is like logical. I for one welcome this new alien overlord. If he will stay.
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by daveinexile on Nov 17, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
All of them?
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
No Whammie, No Whammie, Save Big bucks!
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by daveinexile on Nov 17, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions

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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
/ kicks dog
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Keith Law
in his insider article he had him ranked 15th best free agent available.
Uh.
So it was MacGowan all this time?
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Tomorrow: “Sabean signs Joe Beimel to a 9-year $400M dollar deal”
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Buster will be the number 5 starter
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Bochy likes putting his veteran in the #2 hole.
Wow, how has this never been said?
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Only with Bocock I think...
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by sectionop92 on Nov 17, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Noah Lowery
Contract extension!
“We had a scouting report come in that he was throwing 129. We didn’t really have a confirmation of the report, as it came in Esperanto. We checked online and couldn’t figure it out, so we’re assuming that’s in MPH. We really had no choice but to sign him to an extension”
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kmh, Actually
We didn’t really have a confirmation of the report, as it came in Esperanto.We checked online and couldn’t figure it out, so we’re assuming that’s in MPH.
kmh = mph
129.0 = 80.16
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I say Yay!
This is an excellent signing. Good job Sabes!
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by BruteSentiment on Nov 17, 2008 12:56 PM PST reply actions
Question:
What role for Affeldt?
Will he be a 7th/8th inning guy or a lefty specialist? If 7th inning guy then Affeldt/Romo/Wilson is a nice 6 inning game. How many games can they hold/save for Lincecum and Co.?
in my opinion
He should be used as a 7th/8th inning guy. There is a chance he will be our best reliever next year, so use him in the late innings
by NeifiChicken on Nov 17, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Romo / Affeldt setup for Wilson sounds good.
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
More of this please.
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A good reliever
I’m not opposed to the signing given a Type B, but $5M per year is absolutely ridiculous – the going rate for solid lefties is $4M per year, and I’d rather have given him 3/12 (especially with the time value of money) than 2/10.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Isn’t it 2/8 though?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
This Claims 2yr/8MM. For whats its worth.
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and in this report, Sheldon actually talked to Affeldt, so I’m guessing it’s accurate.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 17, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
2/$8M
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 17, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
I LOVE ALL BAD PHOTOSHOP JOBS BY MLB INTERNS
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Great Start
Sabean makes a great signing to start the offseason in my opinion only 2 years/ 8 mil for a type B only costs us a sandwhich pick. Im very pleased!!!
by FutureGiantsGm24 on Nov 17, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply actions
we don’t lose a pick.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 17, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
This is the 2nd great signing, Phelps being the first. Nobody mention Denker…
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“Though just 29, Jeremy brings a solid veteran presence to our bullpen,” said Sabean. “There is no doubt he has been able to shoulder a heavy workload. He has been to the post-season and will help bridge the gap between our young and talented starting staff and our closer, Brian Wilson, who is one of the best in the game. We are excited to have Jeremy as a Giant.”
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 17, 2008 1:06 PM PST reply actions
he turns 30 on June 6, 2009
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 17, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Oh.
That’s why.
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Does anyone else hate Pearl Jam? Most overrated band, ever.
JEREMY’S SPOKENNNN CLASS TODAY#!@3jm#
Every time I hear the word Jeremy it flies into my head. Argh!
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I don’t like them at all.
Better than Rush though!
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Better than Rush though!
You just moved down on my depth chart.
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interesting
I was holding up a different finger…
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by UnleashTheGore on Nov 17, 2008 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Next Community Poll...
Rush vs. Other Band.
Everyone who votes for Other Band, Band..er Banned.
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You Know...
it will end up in a tie !
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I'll take the banning
I had a good run here.
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I concur!
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Good point. But what about EVedder’s love affair with the Cubs?
I think the song Black is brilliant, the rest is pretty eh. Great Bridge
School appearances over the years as well.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
The fact that they were ambitious and ballsy enough to cover “Love Reign O’er Me” was pretty cool. The fact that they did a great job on it was even cooler.
Yes we did!
The fact that they were ambitious and ballsy enough to cover "Love Reign O’er Me" was pretty cool
Well Phish covered Quadrophenia in its entirety (live), so PJ’s not alone.
< disclaimer> This is not an endorsement of Phish < /disclaimer>
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
The Who > 4,000 other bands > Pearl Jam
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> Rush
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
we can agree The Who > Rush though, right?
RIGHT??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Even the Who circa 2008 > ![]()
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
Nah.
The Who without Moon lost a lot. No Entwistle and it’s nothing. If you ask me at least.
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I would have agreed about losing The Ox, but I saw them in San Jose on that last tour and thoroughly enjoyed the show.
One thing that’s cool is that Pete and Roger seem to actually enjoy each other’s company now. Maybe it’s because they’re the only two left and realize life is short. I’d seen them four times previously and never sensed any affection for each other.
Yes we did!
I'll have to give you a few things..
Once I get back to the Bay Area. Remind me if I don’t remember.
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Around New Years..
Mid-winter’s McC Get-together.
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Why is Rush using condoms for advertising? That thing looks jagged, for her discomfort.
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Actually yes.
But hey, Rush.
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The Who
Better than practically anyone, ever, especially when you watch this
I’m just disappointed they never titled an album “…On First.”
Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com
I thought..
They never let Moon sing. Ever. And Entwistle looks like someone I went to high school with.
I think I’d rather groove though.
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His determination to add his voice to Who songs led other members to banish him from the studio when vocals were recorded.
I trust Wikipedia. ;-) He also sang on Tommy’s Holiday Camp I think, at least when it was played in concert.
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MOON SANG ON BELL BOY
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
See "this"
Above.
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That performance of “A Quick One While He’s Away” is legendary. It was for the “Rolling Stones Rock ’n Roll Circus”. It had been a long day of filming and everyone, including the audience was tired. Then The Who came on and blew everyone away with that performance.
The stoy goes that Mick and Keith didn’t allow the movie to be released because of the way The Who stole the show and the way their performance looked lackluster by comparison.
Yes we did!
i like Rush and Pearl Jam
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by UnleashTheGore on Nov 17, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
That was the worst post in the history of McCovey Chronicles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckRsIy4Zqgo
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
STARRING...
The guy who sounds like he’s imitating a heavy metal singer, who is, in turn, imitating a previous heavy metal singer…
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very nice signing, years and $ are just right for this contract. Throw in Phelps, and this is a nice start.
Hopefully the Giants’ sign Furcal, and not Orlando Cabrerra. Cabrerra is my biggest fear this offseason.
I wouldn’t fear them as long as we didn’t have to give up any draft picks.
No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.
The real question is how the reports of recent T-rex sightings in the upper minors affect the projections for the raptor army.
Raptor Army wins. They hunt in packs!
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Speilberg backs me up. Rex only win because is in a space small enough to prevent the pack from fully deploying. He faces then 1-2 at a time and thus wins.
Though I must admit the raptors I saw on a show the other night were disturbing. The looked like they were in a continuously mange ridden molt. They looked like they should have been playing banjo’s in the Jurassic version of Deliverance.
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by daveinexile on Nov 17, 2008 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
recent T-rex sightings
Prefer T-Rex over Rush. What—wrong mini-thread?
Sorry.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
The Who = xanthan and my Rush
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I'll bet..
My Led Zeppelin fandom is longer than yours. How much more girth can you get than a 30 minute Dazed and Confused?
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39:49 Dazed and Confused.
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i read this as
Velocirapor Amy
That is frightening as well…
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by UnleashTheGore on Nov 17, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
me, too!
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Seasons don’t fear Raptor Jesus
Nor do the wind….
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go go
godzilla?
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My master is my slave.
oh wrong BOC song.
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by daveinexile on Nov 17, 2008 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
congrats on the FA steal
Affeldt is solid.
by jacob brumfield on Nov 17, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply actions
With the possiblity of Zito, Sanchez and a 5th starter struggling to go a solid 6 innings, the Affeldt signing should do wonders for this teams chances. Getting the ball to either Affeldt or Romo in the 7th and 8th innings should provide Wilson with plenty of save opportunities.
It also gives Sabean a chance to evaluate Valdez, Sadler, Matos, Hinshaw etc
Unless Affedlt can hit, I’m not sure how many “wonders” this does for us. He’s a nice addition, though.
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Teixeira should be high on the Giants list of FA. Would be a very nice fit offensively and defensively. Could slide into either the three or four spot in the order and is a switch-hitter 1b.
as great as he'd be
the money is huge. I don’t think we can afford it. Nice thought though.
The real question I’d ask is what does Beltre and Furcal do for us?
Is that enough to make the Giants promising? I’d think so a lot more if we would have been able to get Swisher roaming LF
by NeifiChicken on Nov 17, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
An outstanding pick-up at that price,
for a guy who is better than Jack Taschner. It sounds like they plan to grab one more reliever at the least possible cost in terms of picks. Affeldt costs them zip, but I think Cruz and Reyes would cost them a pick. What about Looper or Lyon? To Sabean, it all comes down to whatever it costs them in picks.
I would think that Beimel would be forgotten now, since both of them are lefties (as is Reyes I think), but who knows?
Matt Cain's drinking buddy
I think the pen in general could be done
short of Bob Howry signing for a million + incentives or something
Hinshaw
Merkin
Sadler
Yabu
Romo
Affeldt
Wilson
That’s fine with me, although I’m not too high on Yabu for next year, I’d prefer a high upside AAAA player
by NeifiChicken on Nov 17, 2008 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Lots of “Ifs” but the bullpen could be very good “If”:
- Valdez returns to health
- Sadler finds command
- Hinshaw throws strikes
If my aunt had….
fix attempt
“I forgot about Merkin. I do hope he returns to experiences for the first time in his entire life, sustained health.”
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Wow...
I’m feeling something unusual; something long-unaccustomed in the wake of a Sabean FA signing.
What is it?
Let’s see… it’s not “disgust” or “revulsion”… neither “despair” nor “nausea”… not even “outrage” or “fury”…
>looks deep within the depths of his soul<
Weird…I’m not 100% certain of this, but I think it may be… “happiness”?
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Seriously
I give up on Sabean and he becomes all reasonable and stuff.
thehavenot gives his thumbs up.
Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
Psyched...
Needed good news like this after a stressful weekend fleeing fires in Santa Barbara. A great signing of a good pitcher at a fair price. Very good.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
inspired
man, with this, and Hennessey signing with the O’s, I’m feeling positively giddy. I mean, I think Romo’s the only other guy in our pen that seems to get both righties and lefties out with any consistency (and his was a small sample).
Has anyone adopted Jeremy yet? If not, can I just call it here and now? If so, I do!
I think you can. However, if I remember correctly, the adoptions are going to be redone at some point this offseason.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
Yea I was planning to towards Spring Training.
Goof it’s up to you. I was going to have sort of a protected draft type thing, should new signees (Affeldt, Phelps, the other guy) be open to the draft or claimed for now?
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I’ll leave it up to you guys, but I think it would be fun to do a complete redraft. And, for the record, I’m perfectly happy with my guy and am not interested in adopting any of the big boys. It would be nice if we could somehow incorporate site activity into the draft order so that way we don’t have the unfortunate situation of Lincecum or Cain getting adopted by someone who won’t be around ever.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
Yea..
I was hoping to get some support for a site activity element. But all the other times I’ve kind of put up the front of people who post more are better I’ve been ostracized as elitist.
The only reason I didn’t want to do a complete redraft is because a lot of people like their adoptees. They’d have to consent to it.
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Consent not granted
Nobody’s getting Noonan.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Nov 17, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t want to give up Cain :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Elitism is the only way to go. Seriously though, we want this to be a community thing, the best/only way to guarantee that is to give priority to people who have proven a “commitment” to the community. It sucks for newer members who will be active, but unless they can come up with a better solution, tough nuts. That’s my opinion, at least.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
My mildly talented son is not available for adoption :-)
The Original Adoption Page is here BTW
for reference.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
And notice...
a lot of those members are not very participatory. Tim Lincecum is the son of a “sharksrog.” I mean, come on, anyone ever seen him post here?
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Looks like Amy G is available for adoption.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
adoption
Woody Allen style…
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 17, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Picking from the discount bin, eh?
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
Before I was the Schierholtz-at-3rd (someone: “Schierholtz at 3rd? Great idea! He used to play there, right?” Very funny. I have never heard that before. Good job) guy, I was the Steve Kline guy.
Good times.
My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
I like that someone actually edited that thing this year to take Kline out though. That’s pretty sweet.
My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
I’m thinking complete re-draft. I think we now have more users than availbale players though.
I hate to go all “noob”, but there should be some assurances that people drafting aren’t fly by night members.
(Rush reference for Xanthan.)
Yes we did!
Nice.
And I think you have final call on everything anyway. I know that quite a few of the players were drafted by members hardly ever to be seen again.
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remind me
why the notion of a re-draft came up in the first place. As an outsider looking in (not to the site, but the adoption process), I always kind of like the “first one to claim wins” aspect. Goes well with the other foolishness on the site.
I'm not sure..
I just kind of thought of it. It’s been probably 2 seasons since we started it, and some of the members are gone, some of the players are gone, new players have come, etc.
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Doesn't it have to be
whoever had Henny? Not that it was a straight trade, but …
Still-proud, adoptive mama of Notgardo Alfonzo, who's back from the 50-game purgatory. He promises never to do it again. I couldn't get him to promise to hit, though. We're working on that with bribes of M&Ms, kind of like potty training.
by tk on Nov 17, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
No..separate transactions completely. Henny’s owner can either keep him while he’s off at college or disown him.
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I’d think I’ll disown him.
Adopted son of in limbo Brad Hennessey. Beloved for a stolen base much like Dave Roberts
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 17, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
whats the post limit for not being a “one night stand” kind of poster? Just curious, I have wanted to adopt but do not know who is adopted and what not. And I am not sure if I am to infrequent to be considered for the adopt-a-player draft.
I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!
I recognize your name..
that’s at least good. I dunno. I was thinking of somehow posting a “who wants to have a draftee?” thread, then taking those who want a member and putting them through a randomizer, but with qualifiers for number of comments or something. Or somehow place a greater probability on the members who post more. But i wouldn’t know how to.
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thinking allowed here. We should probably have a thread where we find out who want to adopt. Then create a draft order based on some sort of determination. I don’t know if it would be based on something like number of posts or how long someone has been a member, but i think that would pretty much assure that players are adopted by true McCoven.
Fortunately, we’ve got a long off-season to figure it out.
Yes we did!
OMG WHEN DID BRAD SIGN WITH THE ORIOLES?!
/DIES
Adopted son of in limbo Brad Hennessey. Beloved for a stolen base much like Dave Roberts
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 17, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Schulman seems to think Affeldt “may not have the sex appeal of other” free agents. Like which free agents DO you think have sex appeal, Hank?
Still-proud, adoptive mama of Notgardo Alfonzo, who's back from the 50-game purgatory. He promises never to do it again. I couldn't get him to promise to hit, though. We're working on that with bribes of M&Ms, kind of like potty training.
If this were written by wilriv, I’d say “You’re just projecting.”
Oh well.
My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
I don't know what Schulman is talking about
I think Addeldt has all kinds of sex appeal.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 17, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
haha, 40 command…I laughed.
Cuz it’s true.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
Is Hinshaw going to be able to improve his command going forward? He’s only 26.
I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!
Anything over a -6 on the 20-80 scale is generous.
My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
Dan @ BBTF just posted his ZiPS Affeldt projection. Check it out.
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/giants_signed_affeldt/
I love the Rags player comp
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
Solid numbers he projected
This is a great start to the offseason.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Nov 17, 2008 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
AF--FELDT!!!

"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum
by Timlincecum.com on Nov 17, 2008 5:59 PM PST reply actions
Like it, don’t love it. Good idea not tying up too much money and short term is always better with as unreliable a commodity as a non-closer reliever.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
Affeldt was just on the MLB Late Show on XM
Mostly the usual phone interview stuff:
- Says he was open to signing somewhere as a closer, but not a big priority given the saturated closer market.
- He and his agent were impressed by the Giants and the negotiations won them over.
- Looks forward to be working with Righetti, helping Lincecum and Cain secure wins, etc.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 17, 2008 7:14 PM PST reply actions
I made a purdy chart of some stats...
You can really see some of the progress that he’s made over the past two years once he went to relieving full-time.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
HR/BIA?
Wuzzat?
And why did it nearly triple last year?
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Nov 17, 2008 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
It’s the percentage of balls hit into the air (flyballs + line drives + pop ups) that go for homeruns. League average HR/BIA for relievers is around 6% so Affeldt was a little unlucky last year in that regard. Playing in Cincinnati didn’t help him.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
That’s cool. What do the colors mean?
Funny how it basically took him six years to get back to the level of his rookie year.
Green = Good
Red = Poor
I should probably tweak the levels some but I think it works well enough for a quickie.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
Great.
Now , where’s the flippin’ bat?
All the pitching in the woyld can’t score runs.
Wait…
Batting Glossary / Minors / Gamelogs: Year————2005200620072008 / Splits: Year————Career————2005200620072008 / HR Log / PI Finders:Game / Streak / Event / PI vs. Pitcher / Neutralize Stats
750 Runs /1968 Dodgers / 2000 Rockies
Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG *OPS+ TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP
————————-———————-——-———-——-—-——-——-——-—————-—-—-—-—-
2005 20 SFG NL 7 15 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 .067 .067 .133 49 2 1 0 0 0 0——————-—-———————-——-———-——-—-——-——-——-—————-—-—-—-—-+
2006 21 SFG NL 32 57 1 8 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 28 .140 .155 .175 -15 10 8 0 0 0 0 RoY-5
2007 22 SFG NL 32 57 3 4 0 0 2 4 0 0 2 32 .070 .102 .175 -30 10 7 0 0 0 0
2008 23 SFG NL 34 62 3 7 1 0 2 3 0 0 4 34 .113 .167 .226 1 14 6 0 0 0 0
+
4 Seasons 105 191 8 20 4 0 4 8 0 0 7 100 .105 .136 .188 17 36 22 0 0 0 0——————-—-———————-——-———-——-—-——-——-——-—————-—-—-—-—-+
+
162 Game Avg 295 12 31 6 0 6 12 0 0 11 154 .105 .136 .188 -17 56 34 0 0 0 0
Career High 34 62 3 8 2 0 2 4 0 0 4 34 14 8 0 0
,,,somewhere in all that crap it says “Matt Cain hit two home runs last year.”
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Nov 17, 2008 7:26 PM PST reply actions
IT'S BEEN 4 WHOLE DAYS!!
WHY HASN"T SABEZ SIGNED A BAT YET!!
I understand that Affeldt is a fan of pie. This makes me a fan of Affeldt.
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 17, 2008 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Youth movement.

Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Nov 17, 2008 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Bonus baby...Giant eyes!
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Nov 17, 2008 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
;-)
Just give up with the formatting Vic.
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Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Nov 17, 2008 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
I considered it
But she was getting kind of worn out.
THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 18, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 7
My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
Well, we need a true 3B, but he's sort of old.
Did anyone see what I did there?
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
I Phil ya.
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
- The Stranglers
by victor frankenstein on Nov 17, 2008 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
I think the real question is – can Manny Ramirez play 3rd base?
by AmorVincitOmnia on Nov 17, 2008 7:58 PM PST reply actions
interesting that he gets $1 million of his 2009 salary up front as a signing bonus so it won’t be effected by Obama’s tax increase. I wonder if we are going to see that in a lot of contracts this off-season
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 17, 2008 9:56 PM PST reply actions
it would be a lot more than that
his plan is to increase the top rate from 35% to 39% which is $40,000 right there, but he also wants to apply the 6.2% Social Security tax to income above $250,000 (right now nothing over $102,000 is taxed) so for Affeldt’s $750,000 that would be an additional $46,500.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 18, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
/ anticipates handle change to : DeathLikeSymptoms
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2008 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
trust me, I’m in no position to worry about this
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 18, 2008 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Eh
Even if the K rate is for real, the BB rate is bound to regress, and the career high GB% is very fishy. It’s a good signing, I guess, but I don’t get all the excitement.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
Props to Neifichicken
For making the call http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/11/14/661575/type-a-personalities#10029971
Bock bock bock
Yes we did!
I don't get it.
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