McCovey Chronicles Community Prospect List: #5-8
by WalrusMan
on Nov 15, 2008 4:12 PM PST
As a solution to the problem of our various ties, please vote for your preference for the #5-8 prospects in this poll. This poll will be open for 48 hours. After that, no matter if the votes are 1 off, that is the final order.
Note: This is the order you think is the best. Gillaspie and Noonan were a tie at #5 and Sosa and Rodriguez were heading to a tie at #7. Whatever order is chosen that order will be used to fill #5-8.
1. SP Madison Bumgarner
2. "C" Buster Posey
3. SP Tim Alderson
4. 1B Angel Villalona
Conor Gillaspie, 3B, 21 - Drafted 2008, #37 overall. Hit .419/.500/.697 with 38 BB and 22 K over 234 AB his junior year of college at Wichita State in 2008. Hit .269/.352/.344 between Rookie Ball and Low-A in 2008 over 93 AB. He torched the Cape Cod league, a wooden bat league, in 2007 with a .345/.448/.673 line, earning league MVP award. Projects to hit for good average, a good OBP, and decent power.
Nick Noonan, 2B, 19 - Drafted 2007, #32 overall. Hit .316/.357/.451 over 206 AB in Rookie Ball in 2007 with 18 SB and 3 CS in 2007. Hit .279/.315/.415 over 499 AB in A-Ball in 2008 with 29 SB and 4 CS. Survived an aggressive assignment to Augusta in 2008.
Rafael Rodriguez, OF, 16 - Signed out of the Domincan Republic on his 16th birthday. As Baggs has put it, "Rodriguez is big — 6 foor-5 and 195 pounds — and plays an athletic right field. He has a strong arm, is a good runner and projects to hit for power."
Henry Sosa, RHP, 23 - Signed out of the Dominican Republic in 2004. Over three seasons has thrown 215.2 IP, 179 H, 238 K, 93 BB, 19 HR, 1.26 WHIP, and a 3.22 ERA. His 2008 season was derailed early on when he tore his patella tendon. When he came back he threw 56.1 IP, 62 H, 58 K, 18 BB, 6 HR, 1.42 WHIP, 4.31 ERA, and a 38% groundball rate. He throws a fastball in the mid to high 90's, a curve, and a change.
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Wow 100% of the vote so far...
Looks like this one will be a blowout.
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by WalrusMan on Nov 15, 2008 4:13 PM PST 0 recs
Thanks for putting this up.
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by marcello on
Nov 15, 2008 4:15 PM PST
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BAH
There went the 100%.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 15, 2008 4:18 PM PST
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REGRESSSIOONNNN
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
by baetown415 on
Nov 15, 2008 10:01 PM PST
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SSS
Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?
by Speedforthewin on
Nov 15, 2008 11:48 PM PST
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Wait, where’s the “Sosa, Noonan, Rodriguez, Gillaspie” option? I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE FORMAT.
What a stupid idea.
by Grant on Nov 15, 2008 4:18 PM PST 0 recs
I agree.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 15, 2008 4:19 PM PST
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NGRS
My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Nov 15, 2008 4:38 PM PST 0 recs
I laughed and I feel great about it.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
Nov 17, 2008 10:42 AM PST
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Wow
I didn’t even notice that.
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by groug on
Nov 15, 2008 8:03 PM PST
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ohhh
So that’s what you meant
I read it like Natto
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on
Nov 15, 2008 8:07 PM PST
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TSRS
Mmmmmmmm strange edit points.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 15, 2008 5:54 PM PST
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This is madness!
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Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Nov 15, 2008 5:11 PM PST 0 recs
......
Should I be able to place this?
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by WalrusMan on
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THIS
IS
SPARTA
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on
Nov 15, 2008 5:55 PM PST
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Ah.
Only saw Meet the Spartans with anything to do with that.
Stupidest movie ever.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 15, 2008 5:56 PM PST
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Yes..
I was dragged to see it.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 16, 2008 5:39 AM PST
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I’m sorry, I truly am. No one should be subjected to the garbage that Friedberg and Seltzer put out.
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by marcello on
Nov 16, 2008 8:58 AM PST
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This. This. So much this.
Check out The Examined Life. Or don't. Whatever.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
Nov 17, 2008 12:03 PM PST
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Significant baseball milestone figure
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Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on
Nov 15, 2008 5:57 PM PST
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strom thurmond is scared
VERY SCARED
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on
Nov 16, 2008 11:18 AM PST
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NGSR
My order is not a racial slur, and thus is clearly the correct option!
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by jcb9 on Nov 15, 2008 5:16 PM PST 0 recs
Also
We currently have a tie. WHAT THE FUCK, PEOPLE.
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by jcb9 on Nov 15, 2008 5:17 PM PST 0 recs
Since there’s no consensus with #5 and #6, or #7 and #8, the idea was to revote on… see, the idea was that we’d…
Hell, I have no idea how to put it into words. That’s weird.
by Grant on
Nov 15, 2008 5:49 PM PST
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I'll try and edit the posts..
To describe it better for others too. Pick the order that you like the most, since Noonan and Gillaspie tied, then Sosa and Rodriguez were about to tie.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 15, 2008 5:56 PM PST
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really, what I am learning this year is that democracy and voting is always a kind of sampling. Never really a pure counting of everybody. SO even though I had Sosa, Gillespie, Noonan, RR, I am not complaining.
and they are still counting votes up here in 4th congressional Dist., go! Charlie Brown
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by foothillsfan on Nov 15, 2008 5:34 PM PST 0 recs
Whoa
Another NorCaler(actual NorCal)? Lol, I love those signs all around Oroville.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on
Nov 15, 2008 5:51 PM PST
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whoa...i thought..
i was the only one that made that distinction…‘actual’ or ‘real’ norcal……
Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?
by NorCalGiant on
Nov 15, 2008 6:16 PM PST
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Starting after Sacramento going north is true NorCal, in my mind anyway.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on
Nov 15, 2008 6:53 PM PST
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Anyone else finding these ties really really hilarious?
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 15, 2008 5:51 PM PST 0 recs
NO
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by marcello on
Nov 15, 2008 7:44 PM PST
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Of course, you wouldn’t feel anything. ROBOT!
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Nov 16, 2008 1:05 PM PST
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He looks very sad.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
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Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Nov 16, 2008 9:56 AM PST
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Two repsonses, pick which one you want.
1. Of course he is, he’s wearing that tie.
2. Of course he his, he’s EMOtional.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 16, 2008 10:12 AM PST
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DIE HIPSTER SCUM
Kyle Nicholson: the fyootch
by stealth snail on
Nov 16, 2008 10:31 PM PST
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Wow, so much for group think. There’s no consensus on this one either (though I agree we should just pick a winner and move on, even if it’s by only one vote).
by Dan from NM on Nov 15, 2008 5:51 PM PST 0 recs
Si
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 17, 2008 7:24 AM PST
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No
Spanish or English? You’ll never know, because the one you pick I’ll just say I was speaking the other!
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 17, 2008 10:07 AM PST
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Current Vote:
19-16-16-16
I’m starting to doubt the validity of this. Seriously, is there a way to see who is voting for what choices, to see if we have ballot stuffing to force ties?
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by BruteSentiment on Nov 15, 2008 5:52 PM PST 0 recs
Well..
Each username can only vote once. As far as I know at least. Outsiders can of course vote multiple times though..
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That doesn't stop people from registering extra names.
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by BruteSentiment on
Nov 16, 2008 11:39 AM PST
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True.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 16, 2008 11:47 AM PST
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I’ve wondered the same thing. But since the first two pairs were ties, it’s not really surprising that this rearrangement is very nearly tied too.
by Evan on
Nov 15, 2008 6:04 PM PST
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Nicholas, Conor, Rafael, Henry
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
by baetown415 on Nov 15, 2008 10:02 PM PST 0 recs
Woah No way
Conor won the other one now he’s losing wth.
Hasheem "The Beat" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.
by ejdacanay on Nov 15, 2008 10:06 PM PST 0 recs
We need a debate
Proponents of each prospect espouse the virtues of their choice. Maybe get one well-informed volunteer for each prospect to make the strongest case they can for said prospect. Allow counter-arguments and responses to be made. Perhaps people will be persuaded one way or another – I know that I could be, and I’m sure I’m not the only one.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Nov 15, 2008 10:50 PM PST 0 recs
So far it looks like the Kieschnick/Ishikawa/Pucetas at #7 voters are breaking for Sosa rather than Rodriguez. Which makes sense.
by Evan on Nov 16, 2008 10:27 AM PST 0 recs
I’m a Kieschnick to Sosa voter myself.
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on
Nov 16, 2008 3:45 PM PST
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Nate Silver told me that the 4th option was going to pull ahead, but I didn’t believe him.
by Grant on Nov 16, 2008 12:59 PM PST 0 recs
Yeah, you guys were complaining way too early. I don’t even usually check this site until Monday…perhaps there are others like me. Let’s see how things shake out Monday afternoon.
By the way, my choice is leading comfortably. I’m not surprised. Can we now say that Nick Noonan is a better prospect than Connor Gillaspie?
Yes We Can!
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by Lyle on Nov 16, 2008 2:27 PM PST 0 recs
Prospect Value
I voted Gillaspie, Noonan, Sosa, Rodriguez, but I’m now thinking that Noonan should be ahead of Gillaspie. Because of that silly handshake deal addition of Gillaspie to the 40 man roster, he probably decreased his value to the organization because he is starting his clock early. All I can say is that I hope he doesn’t struggle or get injured and miss a year.
by nelson95 on Nov 16, 2008 6:26 PM PST 0 recs
Who's Next?
Adrianza and Tanner – The guy who wrote the Arizona Summer League top 20 list for BA slobbered over Adrianza and Baggerly said in his blog that he was going to put him in the top 10 of his prospect list. Tanner is 3 years younger than Pucetas and has been playing at the same level for the last 3 years with stats just a tick behind him. Tanner is the same age as Barnes, but playing a level above.
I would also like to see Ben Copeland and Jose Casilla as testers.
by nelson95 on Nov 16, 2008 8:55 PM PST 0 recs
I agree
It’s ridiculous.
I’m going to vote for a tie. :^)
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Nov 16, 2008 9:49 PM PST 0 recs
I’m surprised that this has turned into a (relative) rout. Noonan voters, it seems, strongly prefer Sosa to Rodriguez; but Gillaspie voters are evenly split between the two. What explains this? Can’t wait to see the exit polls.
Also, although Gillaspie finished a few votes ahead of Noonan when they were head to head, in this runoff he’s being decisively beaten.
by Evan on Nov 17, 2008 12:16 PM PST 0 recs
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