Giants touch base with Sabathia

by confusitron on Nov 14, 2008 9:17 AM PST

Interesting to see this....

http://www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_10980742?nclick_check=1

They also go on to say Furcal is their main target while Pablo Sandoval will be the choice to start at third rather than go after Joe Crede or Casey Blake. Also Sabean says that the Elias ranking will also be weighed to not lose a draft pick. I think the Giants may be better suited to go after Derek Lowe (in the type A catagory) or a Braden Looper/ Brad Penny type who can fill a need for not a lot of $$$. I personally like the idea of Casey Blake as a Giant. Do you like this course of action by Sabean? Your thoughts

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where's the casey blake DO NOT WANT picture?

though having furcal, penny, lowe, and blake jump see the light at the end of the blue tunnel all in the same year would be a little funny.

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by Takimoto on Nov 14, 2008 9:21 AM PST 0 recs

not Casey Blake

but Casey Blae

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 14, 2008 9:46 AM PST up 0 recs

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 14, 2008 11:52 AM PST up 0 recs

ahhhh now i feel better.

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by Takimoto on Nov 14, 2008 11:54 AM PST up 0 recs

agreed

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 14, 2008 1:32 PM PST up 0 recs

Looks like Blake is taking a giant Lasorda on the infield…

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by Mike Hawk on Nov 14, 2008 1:32 PM PST up 0 recs

Unfortunately it spilled over to foul territory

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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 14, 2008 1:49 PM PST up 0 recs

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by NeifiChicken on Nov 14, 2008 12:00 PM PST up 0 recs

..I don’t get it.

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by WalrusMan on Nov 14, 2008 3:21 PM PST up 0 recs

Casey Blake is not a pro, so Upgrade to Pro today!

It’s really simple.

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by groug on Nov 14, 2008 3:34 PM PST up 0 recs

Glad to read Sandoval will be playing 3b instead of 1b and that SF is interested in Furcal.

by wilriv21 on Nov 14, 2008 9:42 AM PST 0 recs

I’m glad Pablo will be at 3B as well. As much as I’m drooling over Texeria right now, I’m pretty sure I would have buyer’s remorse before Spring Training. I do like the Phelps/Ishikawa platoon at 1B, and am confident the O will be better this season.

by tyrannoman on Nov 14, 2008 9:47 AM PST 0 recs

it will almost certainly be better

but it has a long way to go before it’s even average.

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by zenbitz on Nov 14, 2008 9:50 AM PST up 0 recs

I do like the Phelps/Ishikawa platoon at 1B

Reality check, please. Phelps has less chance of being on the ML roster next year than Scott McClain. He’s a scrap heap pickup who couldnt’ crack the majors in his prime years. Let’s not put much hope into him doing so next year, especially in a semi-regular role.

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by leftymalo on Nov 14, 2008 10:46 AM PST up 0 recs

I’m sure you personally are being consistent, but a helluva lot of Giants’ fans wanted us to sign Josh Phelps the last two offseasons till we actually signed him. Now he’s a bum.

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by rxmeister on Nov 14, 2008 10:50 AM PST up 0 recs

He’s a scrap heap pickup who couldnt’ crack the majors in his prime years.

Uh, from 24-27 he accrued 1190 AB’s over 4 seasons. That’s basically an average of 300 AB’s per year. I’d say he cracked a a few rosters during his prime years.

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by xanthan on Nov 14, 2008 10:53 AM PST up 0 recs

And, not to rehash any Phelps discussions but ZiPs just projected him for a line of: .273/.339/.457 OPS+ 106. That’s entirely useful off the bench or in a platoon role.

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by xanthan on Nov 14, 2008 10:56 AM PST up 0 recs

Point taken. I used “crack” with too large a grain of salt. Heh. He got a lot fewer AB in the past three years, though I would have done better to refresh my memory of his work.

But I stand by my larger point, which is that he’s a longshot to make the roster. Penciling him in as the 1B platoon with Ish (which would mean the bulk of the starts) is waaaay premature.

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by leftymalo on Nov 14, 2008 2:03 PM PST up 0 recs

He’d only platoon against LHP, which would give TI the bulk of playing time at first, no? I’d say he’s a “medium” shot to make the team depending on what the Giants do with Aurilia.

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by xanthan on Nov 14, 2008 2:33 PM PST up 0 recs

I do think he can play a solid platoon role, and will be a handy guy to have around. If it doesn’t work, then it doesn’t. I’m not expecting .270/.335./20/85 out of Phelps, after all.

Yes, the offense will still be a long way from average, but it will be better than last year.

by tyrannoman on Nov 14, 2008 11:08 AM PST up 0 recs

I’m STILL waiting breastlessly for that special someone to tell me how Sandoval behind the plate would save his knees…postposterous.

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by victor frankenstein on Nov 15, 2008 10:56 PM PST up 0 recs

Draft pick...

certainly can’t be ignored, but we’d lose a second rounder which isn’t quite as bad.

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by NeifiChicken on Nov 14, 2008 9:49 AM PST 0 recs

They also go on to say Furcal is their main target while Pablo Sandoval will be the choice to start at third rather than go after Joe Crede or Casey Blake.

It’s like beautiful, beautiful music.
/cries.

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by oldjacket on Nov 14, 2008 10:00 AM PST 0 recs

I'm crying...but it's not tears of joy.

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by UnleashTheGore on Nov 14, 2008 10:46 AM PST up 0 recs

You want Blake or Crede? Or you dont want Furcal?

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 14, 2008 1:33 PM PST up 0 recs

the latter

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by UnleashTheGore on Nov 14, 2008 3:01 PM PST up 0 recs

He will probably sign for a shorter deal to re-establish value, and no picks are lost. I wouldnt mind the signing.

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 14, 2008 3:07 PM PST up 0 recs

I’m on board with Sandoval at 3B and signing Furcal to a 3-4 yr deal, and moving Burriss to 2B where he will be awesome defensively. Furcal is good, and costs no pick.

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by cain1rstballothof on Nov 14, 2008 8:00 PM PST up 0 recs

And then when Furcal gets injured in late April, Burris goes back to SS where he belongs, and Frandsen gets the 2B he deserves and puts up a .375 OBP, giving lots of RBI opportunities for Pablo, Travis, and Bengie.

So, yeah, that could work……

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by Lyle on Nov 15, 2008 8:51 AM PST up 0 recs

The Yanks reportedly will offer CC something in the $140-$142 million range. The Giants probably wouldn’t have to go that high, but we’re still talking Zito money/term to get CC. Plus, the union will be putting a lot of pressure on CC to take the Yankee offer, though my gut tells me that CC is the kind of guy who would resist that and go where he wants to go if other offers are “in the ballpark.”

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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 14, 2008 10:48 AM PST 0 recs

I’m hearing on the radio that the Yankees have already offered CC that money, and are willing to go even higher if they have to. Somebody close to Sabathia supposedly said he has no intention of leaving any money on the table to give someone a hometown discount. The Yankees are not going to let him get away after making the mistake of not trading for Johan Santana last offseason.

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by rxmeister on Nov 14, 2008 10:53 AM PST up 0 recs

Say what you will, if the Yankees are willing Payby $20 to $30 million over the course of the contract more than any other team, C.C. will be looking at apartments in Manhattan. I don’t think anyone could realistically leave that kind of cash on the table. If he really wanted to stay with the Brewers, he would’ve signed the $100 mil deal they’ve (alledglly) offered.

by tyrannoman on Nov 14, 2008 11:11 AM PST up 0 recs

yeah, you’re probably right.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 14, 2008 12:01 PM PST up 0 recs

Not saying I know one way or the other...

… but of course Sabathia’s going to say that. It potentially drives up the price of teams like the Giants, where CC may actually prefer to go but aren’t offering enough.

Like everyone else though, I highly doubt he’ll leave 20 or 30 million on the table just to come home to the Bay Area.

by sfgfan on Nov 14, 2008 4:36 PM PST up 0 recs

I don't mean to divert....

but I just wrote a full post about Furcal here.

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by leftymalo on Nov 14, 2008 10:48 AM PST 0 recs

I have mixed emotions on Furcal. Yes, he’s a better player than Burris, but this is typical Giants. They promise 145 starts to a kid then give a long term expensive deal to some veteran and the kid is on the outside looking in. He’ll never hit well enough to be a good major league second baseman, so basically his Giants’ career is over as anything other than a backup.

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by rxmeister on Nov 14, 2008 10:58 AM PST up 0 recs

This.

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by Kitspool on Nov 14, 2008 12:03 PM PST up 0 recs

That.

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by Lyle on Nov 15, 2008 8:53 AM PST up 0 recs

The Other.

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by groug on Nov 15, 2008 11:06 AM PST up 0 recs

it comes down to health

If we were confident that Furcal would be healthy in each of the next 3-4 years, I think at 10-12 million per year he could prove to be a bargain. He offers above average offense at defense at a position of great need.

Problem is, he’s been hurt for huge chunks each of the past two years and is getting further and further past age 35

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by NeifiChicken on Nov 14, 2008 11:10 AM PST up 0 recs

age 30

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by oldjacket on Nov 14, 2008 11:21 AM PST up 0 recs

whoops

I have no idea how that happened. I know he’s not 35…strange

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by NeifiChicken on Nov 14, 2008 11:39 AM PST up 0 recs

you’re a giants fan talking about a likely FA, force of habit.

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by oldjacket on Nov 14, 2008 12:19 PM PST up 0 recs

Disagree

now is the time when we can take a chance on someone who might have injury issues. we are in rebuilding mode and an injury to a veteran in the next couple years isn’t going to affect our bottom line. I’d rather see us focus our money for one big free agent, but if we came away with Furcal, I wouldn’t be upset. And I wouldn’t be worried about injuries.

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by BawLa on Nov 14, 2008 1:22 PM PST up 0 recs

I don’t mind the $10-12 per (even $15, the money is there to spend in this case) but I wouldn’t go over 2 years with a club (or vesting option) for the third. That being said, I’m okay with a long look at Burriss if the Giants’ don’t sign Furcal, as long as they bring in an Adam Everett type as a backup in case Emmanuel needs a little more Fresno time.

by tyrannoman on Nov 14, 2008 11:15 AM PST up 0 recs

You can’t see it, but I’m jumping up and down on the inside. Then again, you wouldn’t be able to see it if I were physically jumping up and down too.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
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by Natto on Nov 14, 2008 11:14 AM PST 0 recs

Don't be so sure

Eyes are everywhere.

BTW, nice dress. That color suits you!

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 14, 2008 11:39 AM PST up 0 recs

i'm just glad he's wearing SOMETHING

definitely an improvement over the norm.

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by UnleashTheGore on Nov 14, 2008 3:03 PM PST up 0 recs

Hey man, if people were meant to wear clothes, we would have been born with suit.

by Natto on Nov 14, 2008 4:50 PM PST up 0 recs

It figures

that after I finally gave up on Sabean he’s starting to make sense.

Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.

by thehavenot on Nov 14, 2008 11:47 AM PST 0 recs

Furcal? Seriously? The guy only played in 36 games last year and everyone is ready to throw $10-15 million/year at him. Thats crazy. He is gonna get hurt and everyone will be hating on him in no time

by m34josh on Nov 14, 2008 12:11 PM PST 0 recs

I’m with you here…lots of teams are interested though. I like him
enough short-term especially if the contract is an incentive-laden
one. But I’m sure that won’t land him (or remove the Dodger stank).

They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long

by bgunn on Nov 14, 2008 12:17 PM PST up 0 recs

Base? Touched
Tires? Kicked
Dilligence? Done

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by zenbitz on Nov 14, 2008 12:47 PM PST 0 recs

Coming away with nothing at the end of the day: Priceless

Yes we did!

by Goofus on Nov 14, 2008 1:58 PM PST up 0 recs

"Furcal is their main target"

Say it ain’t soooooo!!

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by ThrillisGone22 on Nov 14, 2008 2:28 PM PST 0 recs

Flip on the telly, wrestle with Jimmy

by Natto on Nov 14, 2008 4:51 PM PST up 0 recs

Something is bubbling , behind my back

by chilibean_3 on Nov 14, 2008 8:09 PM PST up 0 recs

No A-List free agent wants to come here,

and the sooner the Giants reconcile to that, the better. They will only be able to add needed parts through trades, or by letting the kids play another year to see what they have.

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by Buck Henry on Nov 14, 2008 5:11 PM PST 0 recs