Pablo in the VWL
First-time poster here @ McCovey Chronicles...but a lifelong Giants fan (check out my profile). You probably track these guys as closely or moreso than I do, but I wanted to ensure the community is aware that Pablo has not only stayed hot, but increased his hotness decisively in the VWL. Hopefully, this link will work for you...
...but if not, I'll sum it up here:
17 Games; 27-for-68 (a .397 BA); 5 HR; OPS of 1.150; and a 5:8 BB:K ratio.
I acknowledge this is a relatively small sample size, but I think it does prove that his hot start in the Majors was not a fluke -- and the 5 dingers show that the power is there to turn a bunch of those doubles into HRs -- he had 48 two-baggers this year across three levels.
I think our future is very bright, and I hope we don't dump any of our cornerstone prospects (Posey, Bumgarner, Alderson, Villalona) for a short-term rental...
Well, since this is my first attempt at a post here, I'll end it there...look forward to being active in this community. Go Giants!
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Yea...
I’ve been checking on our guys throughout the winter season, and Pablo has put up impressive numbers. Hopefully he’s for real…and Burriss also hit his first AFL home run yesterday!
by DuikeBuike on Nov 12, 2008 2:56 PM PST 0 recs
Frandsen has been tearing it up as well. That makes me happy. :)
by AndOnTheDrums... on
Nov 12, 2008 3:06 PM PST
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Franny being Franny
Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.
by Lyle on
Nov 13, 2008 2:11 AM PST
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And Posey is hitting .371 in Hawaii...
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 12, 2008 3:22 PM PST 0 recs
So… he hits. 345 in 145 ABs in the majors, but the extra 68 in VENEZUELA proves that his hot start was not a fluke?
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
by zenbitz on Nov 12, 2008 3:34 PM PST 0 recs
I'm confused...
…are you: A) arguing that he didn’t have anything to prove; B) arguing that Fall / Winter stats are meaningless [an argument with which I might agree…]; or C) just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative?
My intent was primarily to get some chatter going on about “off season” action / stats and sustain some excitement about the Giants’ near future since the Giant’s recent past hasn’t given us much to be excited about (due respect & apologies to Mr. Cy Young).
Anyway, if that’s not the kind of thing you’re interested in, why waste even more of your time by taking the time to post a sarcastic comment?
Have a great day!
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 12, 2008 3:50 PM PST
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Don't like sarcasm?
You’re gonna fit in here just fine.
Check out The Examined Life. Or don't. Whatever.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
Nov 12, 2008 3:56 PM PST
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Actually, I was genuinely confused by the point of zenbit's question.
…that is, assuming he had a point…?
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 12, 2008 4:01 PM PST
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some people are just mad at their dad.
Proud father of Eric Surcamp!
by The Thrill on
Nov 12, 2008 9:51 PM PST
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Anyway, if that’s not the kind of thing you’re interested in, why waste even more of your time by taking the time to post a sarcastic comment?
I’ve internet-known Zen longer than just about anyone else I’ve ever internet-known, and I think he considers sarcastic, dickish comments a reason for living rather than a waste of time.
by Grant on
Nov 12, 2008 5:53 PM PST
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and how exactly does that make him different than the vast majority of us?
Yes we did!
by Goofus on
Nov 13, 2008 10:37 AM PST
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Did you internet-know him in the biblical sense?
Yes we did!
by Goofus on
Nov 13, 2008 10:44 AM PST
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I am now pretty sure
that I shouldn’t post in this thread again.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
by zenbitz on
Nov 13, 2008 10:53 AM PST
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Well, it just sounded insane to me. Sample of 160 ABs in majors is considered flukish, but less than 1/2 as many in a weaker league makes it less flukish… For the record, even the sum (220 ABs) is a pretty small sample.
BUT really the answer is C, I am just being snarky. Oh, and I think Pabloito has a lot to prove still
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
by zenbitz on
Nov 13, 2008 10:57 AM PST
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VWL
Didn’t Jose Castillo lead the VWL in hitting last year? I do love Sandoval.
by dskjfd on Nov 12, 2008 4:40 PM PST 0 recs
point taken, in the eye :-)
I do get it…thanks…just trying to satisfy my appetite for Giants baseball in the offseason and things like VWL (and other ‘off-season’ leagues) are about all we have right now.
Thinking about a 25-man roster in the near future (projecting only guys currently in the system):
C: Molina
C/3B: Posey
C/1B: Sandoval
1B: Ishikawa
CI: Villalona
CI: Bowker
MI: Noonan
MI: Frandsen
MI: Gillaspie
MI: Burriss
OF: Lewis
OF: Winn
OF: Schierholz
OF: Kieschnick
Util: Velez
P1: Lincecum
P2: Cain
P3: Bumgarner
P4: Alderson
P5: Sanchez
P6: Pucetas
P7: Wilson
P8: Valdez
P9: Sadler
P10: Zito
THIS gets me fired up (and I’ve probably even missed someone obvious…and intentionally left out Rowand because I think he’s someone they should be shopping around.) Can I get an amen? Perhaps?
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 12, 2008 4:58 PM PST
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Welcome to MCC
You’ll fit in fine here.
Oh, and AMEN!
Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.
by Lyle on
Nov 13, 2008 2:14 AM PST
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You forgot the "F"
in front of “Util: Velez”
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on
Nov 13, 2008 7:43 AM PST
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Can... not... resist...
snarking… at … roster…. must… hold… back….
BRWRAAUGUEKSUUGU!!!!!!!!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
by zenbitz on
Nov 13, 2008 10:59 AM PST
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aw hell with it. Besides I'm home sick and the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is on.
Bad time to trade Rowand, coming off a down year and with so many years I think he’s basically worthless on the open market.
And the offense of the above team is still wretched, atlhough might bump up a couple slots to 22nd in MLB
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
by zenbitz on
Nov 13, 2008 11:02 AM PST
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snarkiness spoken here...
Seriously, no sweat. Agreed that the offense avilable from the above 25 isn’t exactly “fear-striking” — however, a starting 8 of something like…
1) Lewis
2) Shierholtz
3) Winn
4) Sandoval (it’s getting more obvious that I like this guy, eh?)
5) Villalona
6) Posey
7) Frandsen
8) Noonan
…could produce a fair number of runs on any given night. (Okay, maybe I didn’t do a good job of getting all 8 positions covered, but it’s close.) And this doesn’t include a couple guys that I’d be looking to get in the lineup as often as possible (e.g., Molina). I also don’t disagree that it might be a bad time to deal Rowand but — for exactly the same reasons you mention — it just might be. Look at the FLA-WAS deal that went down a couple days ago…let’s throw him out there as a “veteran leadership and a proven track record” guy and see who bites…nab us a couple B or C+ prospects in return. Plenty of GMs seem more than happy to overpay for name recognition and really awkward batting stances…actually I made that last part up…maybe an interesting research project.
What really gets me fired up about that 25 is the PITCHING. A lights-out first four…with all four having All-Star potential IMHO. And that bullpen has the potential for a ~3.00 ERA, again IMHBABO.
Play Ball.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 13, 2008 11:34 AM PST
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don't know what happened to my post...
…but there was supposed to be a parenthetical “but admittedly biased” in my first IMHO that would shed a little light on the expanded acronym used later.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 13, 2008 11:37 AM PST
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And Notgardo...
…led VWL in HRs last year.
Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com
by leftymalo on
Nov 13, 2008 9:30 AM PST
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And Zenbitz being Zenbitz?
"Mow bwiefings?" "More briefings."
by stobgopper on Nov 12, 2008 4:48 PM PST 0 recs
Can I still be Garth?
The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.
by Mike Hawk on
Nov 12, 2008 5:27 PM PST
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Dude hits doubles
Maybe we are underestimating his power potential
by oldjacket on Nov 12, 2008 5:43 PM PST 0 recs
Also...
I’m sorry the Winter Lines have gone away. By tomorrow, we should have a full slate of them, including makeups. I promise. :)
SFDugout.com is BACK! See the Top 50 Giants Prospects!
by BruteSentiment on Nov 12, 2008 5:54 PM PST 0 recs
That will be a welcome site.
Much thanks to y’all for doin that.
by oldjacket on
Nov 12, 2008 6:12 PM PST
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Eh it’s my fault they went away. I got a day job and suddenly lost any semblance of a life.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Nov 12, 2008 10:49 PM PST
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Drinking Pina Coladas and Smashing Beisbols
EME is also doing well. He is playing LF for Gigantes de Carolina in the Puerto Rican Winter League.
by wilriv21 on Nov 12, 2008 6:23 PM PST 0 recs
He is not into de-fense
He is into champagne.
Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.
by Lyle on
Nov 13, 2008 2:14 AM PST
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any extra-base hits?
Castillo got the DFA. Guestimate for Castillo DFA to come before the 2009 season = 2.
by kennv on
Nov 13, 2008 7:11 AM PST
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I think he hit a double yesterday.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Nov 13, 2008 7:16 AM PST
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BREAKOUT!
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 13, 2008 11:37 AM PST
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ha
damian moss is on Pablo’s team in venezuela
Kyle Nicholson: the fyootch
by stealth snail on Nov 12, 2008 8:10 PM PST 0 recs
He’s Australian!
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on
Nov 12, 2008 8:20 PM PST
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Damian!
THE ACE AUSTRALIAN!
Ralph Barbieri, heal thyself.
by ThrillisGone22 on
Nov 12, 2008 11:28 PM PST
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It's the Ace Australian?
See, I could never understand what he said. Whether it was He’s Australian or Dude’s Australian was what I was between always.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on
Nov 13, 2008 6:55 AM PST
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I always thought he said ex-australian
Kyle Nicholson: the fyootch
by stealth snail on
Nov 13, 2008 9:12 AM PST
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Introduce yourselfs right on right on! the Ace Austrailian! Ray from across the bay!
by lincypoo i wuv u on
Nov 13, 2008 3:02 PM PST
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I have a Damian Moss foul ball in my collection.
Damn thing exploded the lacing in my old glove.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on
Nov 13, 2008 10:24 AM PST
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Great first post?
Or the greatest first post?
Welcome dude.
Anyway, about Pablo I’m really looking forward to how he does next year.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on Nov 12, 2008 8:19 PM PST 0 recs
3rd best first post.
by FairweatherFan on
Nov 12, 2008 8:32 PM PST
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Welcome G_J
You may have to do some research
through McC to get the above well-worn bit.
by Jakespaar on
Nov 13, 2008 8:51 AM PST
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It’s nice to see Pablo hitting for so much power this winter. He has a .721 slugging percentage.
P.S. Welcome to the site.
by Dan from NM on Nov 12, 2008 8:28 PM PST 0 recs
Can I officially adopt Giants_ Junkie?
He looks like a hot prospect.
Proud father of Eric Surcamp!
by The Thrill on Nov 12, 2008 9:54 PM PST 0 recs
He did make one rookie mistake...
By registering this year, he starts his service time clock and risks ineligibility for 2009’s Best Newcomer Award.
Check out The Examined Life. Or don't. Whatever.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
Nov 13, 2008 1:20 AM PST
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dang it.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 13, 2008 10:42 AM PST
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Can Pablo qualify for rookie of the year next year?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 13, 2008 7:24 AM PST 0 recs
No
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
Nov 13, 2008 7:34 AM PST
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junkie, we can call you Baron poseur, and thanx for the venezuela news.
Baron, sorry to hear about the day job, but I guess somebody has to do those.
The economy thanks you too.
adopter/sponsor of "Go, Antoan" Richardson
by foothillsfan on Nov 13, 2008 8:31 AM PST 0 recs
Nickname?
“His Hotness.” And that’s a quote.
bringing you moral turpitude since 1963
by Idaho Nick on Nov 13, 2008 10:03 AM PST 0 recs
Perhaps mildly sexual.
I wonder if he supported Proposition 8?
bringing you moral turpitude since 1963
by Idaho Nick on Nov 13, 2008 10:03 AM PST 0 recs
Oops
That was meant to be a reply to my first comment.
I’m feeling post-y today.
bringing you moral turpitude since 1963
by Idaho Nick on
Nov 13, 2008 10:04 AM PST
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FTR: I voted NO on Prop 8
Thanks for the warm welcome…happy to be here, and promise to stop by at least several times a day when at my ‘day job’…my weekends are reserved for my rockin’ hot wife and two crazy kids. (Had to get that in there given vote on Prop 8…see, I’m anti-hate, and strongly pro-beautiful-women…)
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Nov 13, 2008 10:39 AM PST 0 recs
I make no sense, even to myself
I was referring to Sandoval, not that it was at all apparent (or logical). Sorry for the misfire. Liked your post.
bringing you moral turpitude since 1963
by Idaho Nick on
Nov 13, 2008 11:08 AM PST
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Do we really want to go OT on this?
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 13, 2008 11:38 AM PST
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Slightly OT
A bit amused about the commentators saying Blacks voted 70-30 for Prop 8 and they did it for the church/religious reasons. Believe the reason brothers voted “Yes” is because the opponents of Prop 8 compared this to civil rights movement and the brothers did not see the comparison.
Ok, I’m getting off my soapbox now.
by wilriv21 on
Nov 13, 2008 11:46 AM PST
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I enjoy who you call black people brothers.
Awesome.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Nov 13, 2008 11:49 AM PST
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who = how
I need more hot tea or I’m not doing to make it to 5 ’o clock!
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Nov 13, 2008 11:49 AM PST
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doing = going
I’ll stop typing.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Nov 13, 2008 11:50 AM PST
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hit while you're a quead.
and go tet some gea.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on
Nov 13, 2008 11:51 AM PST
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It’s like Buster from Arrested Development.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on
Nov 13, 2008 11:57 AM PST
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nah
My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on
Nov 13, 2008 12:22 PM PST
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