I believe the Padres hands are tied by the fact that they need/want to shed payroll. Because other teams know this, the offers coming back for Peavy are going to be less than ideal.

To summarize: it isn’t that the market for upper tier pitchers is bad. The Padres depressed the market for Peavy themselves.

I really love Yunel Escobar, he’s an above average hitter for his position — an sOPS+ of 116 for ’08 — and was a +21 defender by plus/minus. He was essentially just as good as Jimmy Rollins last year.

Other goofs have tossed out names like Hideki Matsui, which is equally insane, but for a different reason.

I know! The Wind Up Bird Chronicle is great, but this baseball.

I thought "how the other half lives" had more to do with eating caviar from the belly button of a supermodel than who you might get for Jake Peavy.

Tim Alderson, Travis Ishikawa, Eugenio Velez, and Noah Lowry?

Ouch.

Crossed out Calvin Murray is hilarious! It seems I have drafted Pie for several years in my keeper fantasy leagues and he is a perennial disappointment.

Escobar and Schaffer are great, but they’d really need a Heyward/Hanson type prospect to really make it worthwhile. The problem for the Pads is that EVERYONE knows they HAVE to sell Peavy, it’s not a “we’re willing to listen” stance like the Giants have with Cain.

The Padres are cutting the payroll from 75 million to 35-40 million due to John Moore’s divorce. Peavy NEEDS to be moved and the only chance the Pads have at leverage is having the Braves and Cubs compete against one another.

if this is all teams are willing to give up for Peavy, we should be in on this. I’d totally give them Alderson/Noonan/B. Wilson for one of the best pitchers in baseball in a heartbeat. The arm trouble is a little worrisome, but dammit cy young potential makes it a gamble I’d be willing to take.

of course, i’m not seriously suggesting that this is realistic, just saying those offers are utterly ridiculous.

As much flak as Sabean usually gets, I think he’s doing absolutely the right thing labeling Cain near-untouchable. The Pads screwed up telling everyone they were gonna trade the Peav.

This is Fred McGriff all over again, ironic since it’s the same teams, Pad and Braves, same situation, with the Padres cutting budget and the Braves ripping them off.

I wonder if Sandy Alderson saw that one coming, a divorce causing a fire sale.

For Peavy, I don’t see how Heyward and Hanson are not the start of the conversation, instead of a no-go. This is ridiculous if the Braves deal goes through, the Padres should get at minimum, something similar to what the A’s got for Haren or Mulder or Hudson (of course, their worse haul was from Atlanta so perhaps the Braves are good at ripping other teams off).

Yunel is nice but not a plus player but he should be a complementary piece of the deal, not the main entree. Jair Jurrgens should be the meat of the package if the Braves are unwilling to give up Heyward and Hanson. Getting Yunel allows the Padres to trade off Greene and save more money. If they are trying to save money, not sure why they picked up Giles option, maybe doing that means they don’t have dump Peavy so quickly.

Maybe get Flowers as they probably need a catching prospect too and the Braves have McCann. Plus throw in Jeff Locke and Julio Teheran. So that’s Jurrgens, Yunel, Flowers, Locke and Teheran. That’s not too bad, about as good as for Haren.

I like Samardzija but they don’t have enough prospects to afford a Peavy. Maybe get Sean Marshall too, but without Vitters, I don’t see how I would do a deal with the Cubs, their farm system is kind of dry.

how the other half lives.

thinking about Cain being traded.

how Peavy grunts every pitch.

Prince Fielder for being so fat and running over Todd Greene.

Just think of how much cavier you would be able to get in Prince’s belly button.

Matt Cain for Jake Peavy right?

Honestly though, I couldn’t agree more. You don’t say that you are going to trade a pitcher like Peavy (or even Cain) while they are under your control at a reasonable price. But if an amazing offer comes around, then yes, you have to pull the trigger.

That’s what it looks like through the bent back tulips.

On a related note…Woo Hoo! The Beatles in a Harmonix project.

might be getting in a 3-way deal with the Pads and the Braves, with the key pieces being:

To the Pads: Jonathan Sanchez, Jordan Schafer

To the Braves: Jake Peavey

To the Giants: Yunel Escobar

There would have to be various assorted pieces thrown in – minor leaguers, relief pitchers, cash here or there, etc. – but it’s a nice start to a deal that would make all 3 teams happy.

Yeah, i think Cain would be the more valuable player in a trade, for the reasons you suggest. Also, Jim Callis & Keith Law both said that Cain should be worth more, when asked about it.