Which Free Agent(s) do you/we want?

by sharpness609 on Nov 11, 2008 7:46 PM PST

There are many free agents and rumors floating around during the offseason and it's always exciting to follow the Hot Stove. I was just wondering, out of the many free agents we are linked to, which one or ones should we be going after? Obviously, if we pursue superstars like Manny, CC, and Mark, we would not have the option of a Furcal and Hudson to go after, because we would not have enough money. Therefore if we take a Adam Dunn instead, or a cheaper, less-pursued player, we could help more than one position on the team. Although on natural instincts we would love to see a Manny in the Bay, we have to look at reality also and for the future of the team.

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Which free agent(s) do you think we should go after?

Manny Ramirez

6 votes

C.C. Sabathia

57 votes

Adam Dunn + Rafael Furcal

35 votes

Orlando Hudson + Adam Dunn

33 votes

Mark Teixiera

78 votes

Brian Fuentes/Francisco "K-Rod" Rodriguez

4 votes

213 votes | Poll has closed

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none of the above

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Nov 11, 2008 7:51 PM PST 0 recs

gets it.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Nov 11, 2008 8:16 PM PST up 0 recs

This was my first thought. Then I went with Teixiera.

by chilibean_3 on Nov 11, 2008 10:30 PM PST up 0 recs

Yay 77 wins!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Nov 12, 2008 9:16 AM PST up 0 recs

and 97 two years later

i can live

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Nov 12, 2008 10:47 AM PST up 0 recs

OK.

1) How does signing someone now prevent them from gaining those 20 wins in 2011
2) The odds of anyone of our our guys putting up an OPS greater that Texieria (for example) in 2011 is quite low.

Signing free agents is bad if:
a) the player you sign sucks (see Zito, Barry)
b) you run out of money to sign more, better free agents (see Zito, Barry)
c) you have better players that you are blocking (see Robert, Dave)

I am pretty sure, given the Giants budget they could manage to find something in the FA market, if they weren’t stupid.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Nov 12, 2008 12:39 PM PST up 0 recs

It’s also bad if:
d) you have to sign a player for his mid/late 30’s years at too many dollars when the player is no longer worth it.

Different schools of thought on this, but I’m with jponry on this. It’s like playing marbles, they’re going to try and grab all the marbles, and it’s our job to hide them.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Nov 12, 2008 1:13 PM PST up 0 recs

agrees with JP

unlees Teixiera signs for reasonable term/amount. (chaa..and monkeys might fly out of my butt)

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by nvsfg on Nov 12, 2008 10:12 AM PST up 0 recs

I smell bacon

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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 12, 2008 10:30 AM PST up 0 recs

It's pronounced Milliwauque

which is Algonquin for “the good land”

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Nov 12, 2008 11:19 AM PST up 0 recs

I didn’t know that

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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 12, 2008 12:55 PM PST up 0 recs

another interesting fact, Millwaukee is the only major American city to have elected three socialist mayors…

by tyrannoman on Nov 13, 2008 8:05 AM PST up 0 recs

does this guy know how to party or what?

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Nov 13, 2008 8:19 PM PST up 0 recs

Where's the Cain for Fielder option?

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Nov 11, 2008 7:52 PM PST 0 recs

Cain is untouchable.

That’s what Sabean said. I wouldn’t want a first baseman who most of the time either hits home runs or gets out. Of course, most of the time you’d get out. We need on-base percentage to go along with that. Plus, I’d hate to see Cain develop into an ace and we would look like a fool dealing him (do I have to mention the other pitchers that turned out great for another team)?

by sharpness609 on Nov 11, 2008 8:12 PM PST up 0 recs

sarchasm

by boonitez on Nov 11, 2008 8:38 PM PST up 0 recs

help, i’ve fallen!

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by Takimoto on Nov 11, 2008 8:43 PM PST up 0 recs

Can you get up?

Yikes, that one had accumulated a lot of dust.

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by marcello on Nov 11, 2008 9:15 PM PST up 0 recs

And I can’t get it up.

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by jcb9 on Nov 11, 2008 9:15 PM PST up 0 recs

That’s what she said

Yes we did!

by Goofus on Nov 12, 2008 1:02 PM PST up 0 recs

That's what HE said..

I hope no girl ever says “I can’t get it up” to me

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by Azmanz on Nov 12, 2008 2:57 PM PST up 0 recs

Apparently, you don’t know all there is to know about the crying game.

Yes we did!

by Goofus on Nov 12, 2008 8:31 PM PST up 0 recs

I want nothing to do with Ramirez.

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 11, 2008 7:53 PM PST 0 recs

Amen

by wilriv21 on Nov 11, 2008 9:33 PM PST up 0 recs

dodgers reportedly guarenteeing 45 million

good work, Agent Ned. the plan has almost come to fruition.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Nov 12, 2008 7:22 AM PST up 0 recs

Agent Ned

No, it won’t be complete until he trades Loney and Ethier for Fielder and Weeks. Then we’ll know we have succeeded in destroying the LA franchise.

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by Lyle on Nov 12, 2008 11:48 AM PST up 0 recs

In fairness, I’d have to guess that Manny will be vastly more productive over the next four years than anyone currently in our organization. Whether or not he’ll justify the contract he wants to sign is another issue, and of course we’re a bit overloaded with OF right now, but from a bottom line perspective I’d be willing to guess that even the Manny of 2012 might well be a better hitter than the best one on our roster.

Get the hell out the way Bengie, Pablito's hit the show!

by Roger on Nov 12, 2008 4:53 PM PST up 0 recs

If i'm forced to have one

then CC please. Teixeira is amazingly good, but he’d just get the bonds treatment here with a ton of IBBs. He’s best suited as a 3-hole hitter with the cleanup hitter behind him, which we still don’t have.

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by theghostofjasonellison on Nov 11, 2008 8:14 PM PST 0 recs

Wow. So we should avoid good hitters since we don’t have any others?

Yes we did!

by Goofus on Nov 12, 2008 1:04 PM PST up 0 recs

oh and where’s Jason Phelps? I want to vote for him

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by theghostofjasonellison on Nov 11, 2008 8:14 PM PST 0 recs

Seriously though, Jason Phelps type signings really are the best option for a team in the Giants situations. Guys who you can get for minor-league or league-minimum type deals. Provided we don’t give them playing time over actual interesting youngsters (almost a guarantee, unfortunately, with Bochy) then we’ve got backups and insurance for injuries or complete ineffectiveness from those interesting players.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Nov 11, 2008 8:18 PM PST up 0 recs

I assume you mean Josh Phelps.

Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
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by raisingcain on Nov 11, 2008 8:56 PM PST up 0 recs

it’s Josh..and uhh, no.

by sharpness609 on Nov 11, 2008 9:26 PM PST up 0 recs

oh hah… yeah… my bad

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by theghostofjasonellison on Nov 11, 2008 9:36 PM PST up 0 recs

BARRY BONDS

But no i dont really want those guys

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 11, 2008 8:18 PM PST 0 recs

edit

for what they will cost

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 11, 2008 8:30 PM PST up 0 recs

I want CC Sabathia, but that doesn’t mean the Giants should try and get him.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
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by Natto on Nov 11, 2008 8:23 PM PST 0 recs

If wanting CC is wrong

I don’t want to be right.

Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.

by thehavenot on Nov 11, 2008 11:59 PM PST up 0 recs

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by JRPhillips on Nov 12, 2008 1:17 PM PST up 0 recs

I want CC

I don’t care how much he costs I want a 3-ace rotation. It would be awesome. And if we got to the playoffs somehow, we would kill.

by boonitez on Nov 11, 2008 8:40 PM PST 0 recs

3-Cy young rotation

If we signed CC we would have 3 Cy young award winners in our rotation. Plus easily a number 3 pitcher to back them up.

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by The Thrill on Nov 11, 2008 8:46 PM PST up 0 recs

easily a #3?

Not so sure about that. More like 3rd starter at best!

Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Nov 11, 2008 8:57 PM PST up 0 recs

3 Cy young rotation?

Timmy, CC…..Timmy and CC….I think you miscounted.

by boonitez on Nov 11, 2008 10:30 PM PST up 0 recs

And Randy Johnson.

I hear he’s a free agent this year!

Or we could trade for Peavy! The possibilities are endless!

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Nov 11, 2008 11:13 PM PST up 0 recs

I think he means Zito, too. But, then again, you just might be expressing sarcasm.

by sharpness609 on Nov 11, 2008 11:27 PM PST up 0 recs

Sarcasm on McCovey Chronicles? Yeah, right!

by Natto on Nov 11, 2008 11:59 PM PST up 0 recs

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by The Thrill on Nov 12, 2008 8:29 AM PST up 0 recs

good catch

you almost fell in again.

by boonitez on Nov 12, 2008 5:00 PM PST up 0 recs

and let's sign Colon to a minor league deal...

and pedro martinez to an incentive laced contract. trade cain and sanchez for hitters because we’d have a cy young ROTATION sons! and, as such, we are guaranteed to win it all (see: science).

Dodgers fans eat their young.

by redhornet78 on Nov 12, 2008 12:52 PM PST up 0 recs

Colon

If he was brought up from fresno, his uniform would almost say “Giant Colon”

(yeah, I know about the missing ‘s’, but still…)

Tim Lincecum is Baseball's Chuck Norris

by Azantor on Nov 12, 2008 4:56 PM PST up 0 recs

don't you mean 4-ace?

Barry Zito frowns at you.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Nov 12, 2008 7:24 AM PST up 0 recs

But..

TIM LINCECUM WON THE CY YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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by WalrusMan on Nov 11, 2008 8:57 PM PST 0 recs

CC

can be our 5-hole hitter

by sharpness609 on Nov 11, 2008 9:29 PM PST 0 recs

and

what’s with all this airline food? amirite?

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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 11, 2008 9:35 PM PST up 0 recs

U RITE

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by groug on Nov 11, 2008 11:13 PM PST up 0 recs

by sharpness609 on Nov 11, 2008 11:28 PM PST up 0 recs

HE GONE

by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 11, 2008 11:32 PM PST up 0 recs

If we’re going to spend big bucks this offseason, then I like either the Teixeira option or the Dunn+Furcal option.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 11, 2008 9:46 PM PST 0 recs

If the price is right:

1. Sabathia
2. Teixeira
3. Furcal

Sabathia gained my admiration and respect when he put the Milwaukee Brewers on his back and led them to the playoffs. Here was a man a month away from a huge FA contract and he wanted the ball. On three days rest. Repeatedly. This is the kind of teammate you would want. A great face to any organization.

by wilriv21 on Nov 11, 2008 10:03 PM PST 0 recs

The price wont be right unfortunately, those guys got some big time pay days coming. Maybe not Furcal though

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 11, 2008 10:08 PM PST up 0 recs

CC or bust

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by stealth snail on Nov 11, 2008 10:45 PM PST 0 recs

I'm curious

what’s bust’s whip?

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by The Gene Hackman on Nov 13, 2008 1:57 PM PST up 0 recs

34D

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 13, 2008 2:16 PM PST up 0 recs

I'll take.

Orlando Hudson and CC Sabathia.

Hasheem "The Beat" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.

by ejdacanay on Nov 11, 2008 10:47 PM PST 0 recs

NO THANKS.

by satyricrash on Nov 11, 2008 11:36 PM PST 0 recs

furcal

Build the team through the draft and player development and fill holes through free ageny. Granted, we have a lot of holes, but I could definitely stomach a sandoval-furcal-burriss/franny-ishi infield.

by iheartdickau on Nov 11, 2008 11:49 PM PST 0 recs

CC and/or Tiexiera

If CC doesn’t want to go to NY then shouldn’t we be the frontrunner?

I say pay him $20M/yr for 6 years and front-load the contract so that we pay him $24M/yr for the first 3 years and $16M/yr for the last 3 years. We pay him more when the rest of our payroll is still cheap and by the time we need more money his contract takes a huge cut. Plus if for some reason we needed or wanted to move him down the line, it would be much easier to move a $16M/yr contract.

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by BawLa on Nov 11, 2008 11:53 PM PST 0 recs

There's no salary cap.

No need to try to “fit” a payroll.

That extra $8M a year you’re spending today, is going to worth (much) less in 3-6 years time, due to salary inflation. And you can invest the money that you’re not spending.

For the most part, front loading an MLB contract is NOT a good thing. Backloading is good. MLB is not the NFL. The reason you want to frontload, is if doing so can get a player to take a shorter contract, or a smaller contract.

And I doubt that the NYC teams / RS / Cubs / Angels, aren’t going to beat a $120M / 6 offer.

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by rfloh on Nov 12, 2008 8:36 AM PST up 0 recs

I think he means that since Sabean isn’t using the entire budget now, spend more up front so you have more to spend on other player when you actually need it.

Since, as you point out, present value dollars are worth more than future value dollars, I’d want the player to take less over-all if I’m front-loading the contract.

Yes we did!

by Goofus on Nov 12, 2008 1:08 PM PST up 0 recs

PAT THE BAT

and Furcal, CC and K-Rod. and then I’ll get my World Series tickets.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 12, 2008 12:38 AM PST 0 recs

I WANT!

I’d like Sabathia just so we can say we have 3…COUNT IT 3! CY YOUNG winners in our rotation..hhahaa…but in all seriousness Teixera should be the man for us….but i feel like we’ll end up getting some mediocre guy who did not so bad last year and over pay him….just like we do every damn year….like pat burrell for 6 years 70 million. Is it possible just to resign TIMMAY for the rest of his career? Say 20 years 400 million and retire his jersey NOW!

by newbtoob on Nov 12, 2008 1:07 AM PST 0 recs

Why didn’t anyone else think of that? 3 CY young winners!!! Amazing.

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by The Thrill on Nov 12, 2008 8:30 AM PST up 0 recs

pat burrell?

or adam dunn, whichever one would play the least worstest first base.
+ a couple decent-ish relievers, and that should be it for our 20-25 mil.

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by jasomack on Nov 12, 2008 2:16 AM PST 0 recs

I like Pat the Bat on a ~6 year deal.

Go look @ hittracker for him. Nearly all of his HR from the last few years would have gone out @ the phone booth, too. He’s not just a bandbox power hitter.

I think his numbers would play well here.

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by FairweatherFan on Nov 12, 2008 7:05 AM PST 0 recs

I voted for Dunn/Hudson

I’ve jumped on the Dunn train, and I’ll stay on if it means a 2 or 3 year contract, even if he’s being overpaid. With AnVil still a few years away, it wouldn’t handcuff the team to have an overpaid 1st baseman for a couple years. I’d rather have Hudson than Furcal, mostly because of my outspoken disdain for Furcal, and because Hudson would be cheaper and probably healthier.

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by UnleashTheGore on Nov 12, 2008 7:27 AM PST 0 recs