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Heyman: Holliday traded to the A's

Explain this to me, please?

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Beane thinks they can win

And Holliday is a big time bat. We’ll see how he adjust to life at sea level

Do you Wazzel?

by NeifiChicken on Nov 10, 2008 11:31 AM PST   0 recs

this

My current Interwebs obsession is pretty awesome. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Nov 10, 2008 11:54 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

that

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 10, 2008 11:58 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

those

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Nov 10, 2008 12:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

boobies

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Nov 10, 2008 12:36 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

LOL... lurker!

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Nov 10, 2008 1:06 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

and the other!

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."

by WalrusMan on Nov 10, 2008 3:14 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

wow

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | art | Nattowear | McFAQ I & II

by Natto on Nov 10, 2008 11:36 AM PST   0 recs

Deleted my Fanpost

QQ

Hasheem "The Beat" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.

by ejdacanay on Nov 10, 2008 11:37 AM PST   0 recs

Trade out of nowhere!

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 11:37 AM PST   0 recs

Huh. A’s must have a lot of other moves planned if they’re willing to do this.

by Evan on Nov 10, 2008 11:37 AM PST   0 recs

Nah.

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 11:42 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Because the A's did something...

Worst possible reason to make a move ever?

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Nov 10, 2008 12:04 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

In retaliation!

Giants trade Lincecum for Greg Dobbs.

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 12:06 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

LOLOL

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Nov 10, 2008 12:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Where have you been the last 4 or 5 seasons? This team needs to improve.

by wilriv21 on Nov 10, 2008 12:10 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Non sequitur

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Nov 10, 2008 12:13 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Dick joke

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 12:13 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

This..

Has become more and more prevalent here.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."

by WalrusMan on Nov 10, 2008 3:15 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Well, duh.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | art | Nattowear | McFAQ I & II

by Natto on Nov 10, 2008 1:53 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

There’s one expensive draft pick.

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Nov 10, 2008 11:42 AM PST   0 recs

Then Tejada and Zito!

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 11:45 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Wow

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Nov 10, 2008 11:46 AM PST   0 recs

WTF BEANES!

The Moneyball computer must have made this trade

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 11:48 AM PST   0 recs

is this a diagram of the primitive Stats Lair?

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Nov 10, 2008 12:49 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Yes! But the new modern STATS Lair is much nicer.

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 12:55 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

so what your saying is that the new, improved STATS Lair dwarfs the capabilities of major league teams?

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Nov 10, 2008 12:59 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I’m actually Billy Beane!

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 1:01 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I thought it was a self-portrait?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Nov 10, 2008 1:12 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Happy to have him out of the division.

The Denker bus is now bound for San Diego. Those who were passengers on it are now angrily stranded at a gas station in Modesto, CA. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Nov 10, 2008 11:49 AM PST   0 recs

WHAT

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2008 11:53 AM PST   0 recs

Wow.

Proud adoptive parent of Tim Alderson.

by Anticon23 on Nov 10, 2008 11:54 AM PST   0 recs

Matt Holliday will probably be better than Emil Brown.

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 11:56 AM PST   0 recs

did your STATS tell you that?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2008 11:56 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

YES, IT TOOK ME HOURS TO COMPUTE

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 12:00 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Well, that was unexpected

At least he’s out of the NL west

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Nov 10, 2008 11:58 AM PST   0 recs

That bastard always killed us.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2008 11:59 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

and now he gets to do it on the A's

when they keep sweeping us in interleague play…

by boonitez on Nov 10, 2008 12:05 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

wtf?

Unless they’ve got a whole lot of other shit planned, this won’t really help them that much. They’re definitely more than one hitter away from contending. Now their lineup is Cust, Holliday, and ……… Beane’s been making some strange moves lately…

by boonitez on Nov 10, 2008 12:05 PM PST   0 recs

So now Beane trades Holliday to the Dodgers for 5 prospects and a box of crayons?

by Merope on Nov 10, 2008 12:08 PM PST   0 recs

Seafoam Green FTW

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 10, 2008 12:10 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Burnt Sienna!

No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.

by Kitspool on Nov 10, 2008 12:22 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

i first read this as: magneto

I knew the Dodgers had some talent in the farm system, good thing he won’t be around to kill Lincyborg.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Nov 10, 2008 1:14 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

magneto

best font ever.

"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Nov 10, 2008 1:20 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

MAGNETO IS JUST MISUNDERSTOOD

by satyricrash on Nov 10, 2008 3:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

MAGNETO WAS RIGHT

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2008 3:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Magnatto and Juggernate!!!

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Nov 10, 2008 4:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

You should’ve killed me when you had the chance!

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | art | Nattowear | McFAQ I & II

by Natto on Nov 10, 2008 4:45 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

You need a maniacal laugh to go with that Natto.

I'm young but i didn't fall off the truck yesterday!

by jbowl on Nov 10, 2008 5:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

this makes no sense to me, unless they gave up very little to get him

Holliday isn’t going to allow them to compete with the Angels and isn’t going to be around when Cahill/Anderson/et al actually start making a difference in the majors.

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Nov 10, 2008 12:12 PM PST   0 recs

Think ahead

Oakland is probably not trading any “A” prospects. The A’s have the option to move Holliday at the trade deadline or keep him the entire season and offer arbitration and gain two draft picks. Like throwing lesser cards in poker in hopes of drawing better cards.

by wilriv21 on Nov 10, 2008 12:15 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

If that's true...

…then what does it say for the Rockies? They’ve got to be getting something more valuable to them than the two draft picks they would get if they do nothing.

Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.

by EliminateMe on Nov 10, 2008 12:21 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

that they do not want to pay his $13.5M contract for 2009

by wilriv21 on Nov 10, 2008 12:23 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

but the A's do?

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Nov 10, 2008 12:26 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

they had shit for a payroll last year

and they have money to burn. One guy from AN said something like $40M for this year or something like that.

by boonitez on Nov 10, 2008 12:28 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Si

and want to sign Furcal. Have read the A’s budget can range from $40M to $80M. Wow, that is a very wide range for a GM.

by wilriv21 on Nov 10, 2008 12:28 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

$80M? Wow... I've heard that the A's owner is filthy rich

that would be over the Giants’ payroll for last year, right? This isn’t the A’s that I know… wow.

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Nov 10, 2008 12:34 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

From Ken Rosenthal:

The A’s are not acquiring him with the intention of flipping him or even trading him in July. The team is in position to increase its payroll to as much as $80 million, and plans to contend next season.

To that end, the A’s also are targeting free-agent shortstop Rafael Furcal to be their leadoff man. Furcal is drawing interest from about 10 clubs, according to his agent, Paul Kinzer. The acquisition of Holliday could help persuade Furcal that the A’s are serious about competing.

by wilriv21 on Nov 10, 2008 1:17 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

The A's payroll in 2007

was around $75M. The term “small market” is grossly overused.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Nov 10, 2008 3:25 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

i wonder where the money comes from

I don’t think attendance is any better, did they get a huge TV contract for some unexplained reason?

Do you Wazzel?

by NeifiChicken on Nov 10, 2008 3:52 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Revenue sharing, national TV contract,

MLB Advanced Media, national licensing, national merchandising. I’ve seen estimates that put MLBAM at $20M-$25M per team, national TV at $20M-$25M per team, and licensing and merchandising at about $10M a team, total of around $50M-$60M per team.

The A’s obviously are not going to be a Yankees type team. Or even have a Mets / RS / Cubs / Dodgers / Angels type payroll. But, they, and other smaller MLB teams do NOT need to have a payroll of $40M-$50M to be viable, despite what some of the cheapskate owners would like fans to believe.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Nov 10, 2008 11:04 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

The A’s are currently on Comcast Sportsnet Bay Area (20-30% owned by the Giants) and KICU. They want move to Comcast Sportsnet CA (based in Sacramento but shown throughout Northern California) on a new TV contract.

A McC newcomer but not outstanding.

by SFGuy on Nov 11, 2008 1:27 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Wolff is trying to fill that empty Coliseum and fund the Fremont stadium.

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 10, 2008 12:28 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I think you hit the reason

Fremont just elected a stadium friendly mayor. The deal looks like a sure thing.

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2008 12:30 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

re-elected actually

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2008 12:31 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I still don’t think that stadium is getting built during this economic downturn, and certainly not before 2012 or 2013 at the earliest.

No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.

by Kitspool on Nov 10, 2008 12:32 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Even with Holliday’s star power, the only time that stadium fills is when the Yankees and Red Sox are in town.

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 10, 2008 12:34 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

ditto

the 9ers and A’s are both screwed until the economy turns around… unless they wanted to pay for the stadiums themselves. but no, no team would EVER do that.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2008 12:35 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

The Niners did have a stadium plan that the city of SF backed, but John York happens to be an idiot.

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 10, 2008 12:37 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I read somewhere

That the Coliseum makes more money from a single gig by the Rolling Stones/Police/Enter Name of Big Musical Act Here than they do from a full season of either the Raiders OR the A’s paying rent.

No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.

by Kitspool on Nov 10, 2008 12:30 PM PST