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by mark30perq3
on Nov 1, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
1) Bring back to Vizquel to play short. I was adamantly against this last year when letting him go would have saved $5 million and netted a comp pick. Now that we can have him for cheap and we can't get a comp pick for him, we should keep him and he should be the everyday SS. Why? His .892 Zone Rating led all SS who played at least 80 games. Manny Burriss, a nice young player, has 9 errors in the Arizona Fall League and would be a significant defensive downgrade.
2) Trade for Mike Fotenot. Fotenot's .854 ZR was 3rd only to Mark Ellis and Pedroia, and his .909 OPS was 2nd only to Utely among 2B. The Velez-Durham combination was the worst in the league defensively last year at that position. Velez sucks, Frandsen and Burriss are utility men. We need a real 2B. The trouble is the deal that makes the most sense is to trade Winn for Fotenot, and Winn was our best player last year. However, Schierholtz or Bowker could reasonably replace Winn and we wouldn't lose much, while a .900 OPS at 2B would be a 200 point increase and .850 ZR would be a 70 point increase at 2B. That failing, David Eckstein would make sense there. He might be cheap, he fields well and gets on base.
3) Sit Rowand against righties most of the time. He had just a .707 OPS against right-handed pitching last year, compared to .877 against lefties. Against right-handed pitching, assuming we trade Winn for Fotenot, I'd play Bowker in left, Lewis in CF and Nate in RF. This was a bad signing, this guy is not an everyday player on a winning team anymore.
4) Spend on the Pen. Scott Eyre would make sense. Juan Cruz would make sense. There's a lot of promise with Romo-Wilson-Valdez-Sadler-Hinshaw. However, adding a veteran or 2, depending on the price tag, would make a lot of sense. Defense and relief pitching are two areas where we were weak last year. They were two areas where Tampa was awful in 2007 and great in 2008.
5) Don't trade Cain, Sanchez or any of our top prospects. If you do, you're filling one hole while probably creating a deeper one somewhere else.
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So, Frandsen at 3b?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 1, 2008 11:37 AM PDT 0 recs
Nate
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by SoFa King Mike on
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Rowand over his career has
and 765 OPS against righties, 864 against righties. His tOPS+, ie park adjusted OPS for the (platoon) split, agaist righties over his career is 93, 116 against LHP. It was 86 against RHP and 115 against LHP in 2008; 98 against RHP, 107 against LHP in 2007; 100 against RHP and 99 against LHP in 2006.
You’re likely overreacting to what happened in 2008. There’s no real need to sit Rowand against RHP.
Tampa was also horrible defensively in 2007. And made a big improvement in 2008, after they finally discarded the ideas of “Willie Harris, SS” and “BJ Upton, 2b” and “Delmon Young, OF”.
I don’t necessarily disagree with the idea of trying to improve the pen. But trying to predict reliever performance is most likely, (much) more difficult than trying to predict the performances of other players. You have huge sample size issues. A reliever pitches, what, about 60 IP a season. How many people would seriously assess consider assessing a starting pitcher based on one 200 IP season, and spending millions based on that assessment? With reliever you often need 3+ seasons before you get the equivalent of one full season for a starter. Just 200 innings. By which time the guy’s talent level might already have changed.
As for Vizquel, well, the key is whether his horrendous offensive performance was an injury caused issue he can recover from. If not, if he’s a 45 OPS+, 197 EQA player going forward. his D isn’t good enough to make him a starting player.
Basically, his D balances out his offense if he can produce offensively like in 2007.
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by rfloh on Nov 1, 2008 11:45 AM PDT 0 recs
Sitting
Sitting Aaron Rowand against right-handed pitching would be crazy. Does anyone think the Giants paid Aaron $60 million to play only a quarter of the games? If the Giants aren’t sold on Aaron (and I personally think it is too soon to give up when a guy has one season that is only average offensively and defensively), the should trade him. Making him a short-side-of-the-platoon player would only decrease the chances of dealing him.
Improve the pen (The Giants already signed Justin Miller in a low-risk move I like.) and trade Randy Winn if you can get a good prospect (which I don’t believe Fontenot is). Re-sign Omar Vizquel only if you are convinced that Emmanuel Burriss needs another year in the minors, which is possible.
Even then, why not take a chance on someone such as 29-year-old Juan Uribe, who should also be somewhat inexpensive and is young enough that he could conceivably have a future? I’m not necessarily sold on Uribe, but if the Giants are going to buy a year for Emmanuel to develop, why not try to get someone who is young enough that if he surprises he could be a part of the future?
by sharksrog on
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Actually
Actually I should back off on Mike Fontenot. He’s a little older than I like my prospects, but he hit VERY well last season. He even went 7-for-21 against southpaws, although his light usage shows how little confidence the Cubs have that he can hit lefties. Remember, the Giants are already hit much better against righties than lefties.
I can live with the lefty hitters’s .683 OPS against lefties since he plays a middle infield position, but his 21 strikeouts compared to only 7 walks worry me and make me wonder if he can keep even those numbers up against southpaws. Against righties, Mike has a wonderful .852 OPS and has 51 walks compared to 73 strikeouts.
I would hope the Giants could get more for Randy.
by sharksrog on
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RE #1 : No thanks. And under no circumstance should he be the starter at SS before July. Duribity issues aside he has only played one position the entire decade so he lacks the flexibility. Any Vet position player the Giants sign has to be either a huge upgrade or very flexible and committed to for a short span. Omar only has 1 of those 3 criteria. Add to if we have no idea if he is mentally in a place to accept being the back up plan. If he isn’t we could be buying a lot of ugly fast.
RE #4: I am presuming you are not talking an elite type reliever by the names you listed. I would rather spend on a short term bottom rotation guy for a year then middle reliever. If nothing think of the pure mathmatics of it. One decent bottom of the rotation guy will reduce the amount of innings a pen be about the same amount of innings yet still allows for the chance the lesser arms to compete for a MLB spot (s). With that competition the chances improve a couple of them will pan out. Would also allow the possibility of 5B ( Sanchez) being moved in beneficial swap with out facing a melt down form the 4 & 5 spots of the rotation.
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by daveinexile on Nov 1, 2008 11:49 AM PDT 0 recs
Vizquel was a Good Giant, but he’s past the point where his glove justifies his bat.
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by jcb9 on Nov 1, 2008 12:06 PM PDT 0 recs
I’ve liked the Fontenot idea for a long time. I also mentioned Winn as trade bait for him in a post a few weeks back, but I had not been following the Cubs closely and some people said they weren’t really in need of another outfielder. Still, I would definitely do this trade if possible.
As for the bullpen, Cruz is a decent idea. I would also be open to Beimel as another lefty.
Not to keen on bringing back Viz though, even though he was one of my favorites.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
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by raisingcain on Nov 1, 2008 12:10 PM PDT 0 recs
I’d never really thought about Fontenot before, but I agree with you and markperq here. If he can be had for Winn + 1 (some kind of B-prospect or Velez), I would make that trade. I think the Cubs do need another outfielder and they probably realize that. Fukudome really struggled as the year wore on and looked completely overmatched in the postseason. Plus, there’s no reason to expect Edmonds to be as productive next season as he was after he came over from the Padres. And, really, their line-up could use a Randy-type. They have a good power hitters (Soriano, Lee, Ramirez, Soto), but they need a 2-hitter or a 6-hitter. Randy could be either of those. This definitely goes onto my off-season wish-list.
by cornball on
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fontenot: scouting report from bleedcubbieblue
I decided to visit the SB nation cubs blog to get their take on Fontenot. It was not very positive.
They widely view him as a bench player, who can hit righty fastball pitchers well with some pop, with average defense and no arm. They mentioned his swing was “loopy” and he would eventually be exposed (as well as his tendencies to look only for inside fastballs, which hurts his coverage of the outside part of the plate). They believe his numbers are more a product of their manager only playing him against the pitchers he does well against, which would not work if he was a starter.
Of course, this isn’t really a good thing to hear. I still wouldn’t be completely against a trade, but we’d probably look to get more back in return.
Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
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by raisingcain on
Nov 3, 2008 6:07 PM PST
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right now, the Cubs are planning to platoon Fukudome in CF. If that does not cry out for another outfielder, I don’t know what does.
by tyrannoman on
Nov 3, 2008 8:58 AM PST
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I’d love to have him in the organization as soon as possible
(scouting, coaching, special assistant to the special assistant).
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Nov 1, 2008 12:11 PM PDT 0 recs
On the bright side, I was able to stop taking this seriously as early as “Bring back to Vizquel to play short.”
I gave the rest a fair shake, but “make random trade,” “bench Rowand based on a sdumb ample size issue,” “funnel loads of cash into the least predictable part of baseball,” and “apparently Lincecum is okay to trade, tho” just don’t take my breath away as ideas.
To be fair, the last one isn’t fair. He probably just forgot about Lincecum. And he’s right we shouldn’t trade them, except for pretty specific and deeply unlikely packages. Though Sanchez isn’t as unlikely as the others.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 1, 2008 12:40 PM PDT 0 recs
That’s weird. I wrote the word “dumb” in the middle of the word “sample.”
I don’t think I’d have a problem if we were doing thing based on ample size.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Nov 1, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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"sdumb ample size"
It’s like one of those word riddles!
Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
by thehavenot on
Nov 1, 2008 8:31 PM PDT
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I’m actualy disappointed that nobody made an “ample size” joke. Did we really bocock ourselves out of making easy dick jokes?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Nov 1, 2008 8:39 PM PDT
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Well as for myself
I don’t do jokes any more. I’m over humor.
And this has nothing to do with nobody nominating me for most amusing poster. Nope. Not one bit.
Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.
by thehavenot on
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whoah
okay, first, let’s get some defensive misconceptions out of the way. ZR is not the best tool as UZR and RZR provide more comprehensive and accurate statistics.
Vizquel is old, his range is declining as evidenced by his declining OOZ numbers. he was 4th in RZR among shortstops with at least 250 innings at the position. Emmanuel Burriss is a young shortstop who has the tools to be an excellent defender. He’s young and needs time to learn. Expecting him to improve or sustain that performance as a 42 year old is ludicrous.
His offense is getting terrible. His wOBA+ the past two years was 84 and 72. that is below replacement level. While his defense would still be above average it would not nearly make up for his offense which has been -2.20 and -2.60 WPA/LI. That’s a bad shortstop by any measure.
As for Fontenot, it’s absolutely ridiculous to think that he could be had after putting up a 119 wOBA+ last year as well as playing excellent defense. He’ll be 29 next year and he plays a more valuable defensive position than 35 year old 108 wOBA+ Randy Winn. He’ll cost us a lot more than Randy Winn.
Also, David Eckstein is always a bad idea. He’s not a good defensive player and his hitting skills are deteriorating.
let emmanuel burriss play. he’s incredibly cheap, put up a 96 wOBA+ and while he was below average in his time at shortstop, it’s a fairly small sample size at around 300 innings. give him the opportunity to learn and improve. he’s got the tools.
As for the bullpen, we really don’t need to bring in free agents. We have enough arms in Fresno to last us the year, especially since we most likely will not be competitive. 1 or 2 mediocre bullpen guys will not make any meaningful impact on the team. I could go for a Jamie Moyer or Greg Maddux type for the back of the rotation, but that’s about it.
While I don’t think Cain should be traded, flat out saying that we won’t trade any of our prospects is downright stupid. The team should be open to any good offers that will improve our team. This close-mindedness is self-defeating. Trading from an excess is a good idea and pitching (at least in the low levels) is something we have in abundance.
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 1, 2008 12:56 PM PDT 0 recs
Ecsktein
was an average offensive SS this season. Above average in 2007. Below average in 2006. Above average in 2005.
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by rfloh on
Nov 1, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
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But he plays the game the right way
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by CB30 on
Nov 1, 2008 1:45 PM PDT
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shitty?
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on
Nov 1, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
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Yes, the right away.
As in being a decent averagish player until very recently, despite what people who have been brainwashed by FJM believe.
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by rfloh on
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His D only started deteriorating recently.
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by rfloh on
Nov 1, 2008 11:16 PM PDT
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No, actually, I meant to reply to you.
Since you posted a reply that is common among brainwashed / programmed / conditioned “stathead” fans.
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by rfloh on
Nov 1, 2008 11:14 PM PDT
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No he didn’t. He posted a reply that was making fun of the way the media godifies David Eckstein. Nothing else. Nice dicky comment, though.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Nov 1, 2008 11:45 PM PDT
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Fortunately, I am a computer, so no feelings are hurt.
by Natto on
Nov 1, 2008 11:48 PM PDT
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Well, it’s all digital now, so I guess I’m a paintbrush in Photoshop.
by Natto on
Nov 2, 2008 12:10 AM PDT
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Nice.
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by Lyle on
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Yeah, OK.
I apologise. The comment was over the top.
But my point that many “stathead” fans underrate Eckstein.
The media “godifies” Eckstein? How? Do you see any writer suggesting that they vote him as regular season MVP? That he belongs in the HOF. They like that he’s small and “gritty”. Big deal. Yet they seem to understand that he’s an OK player, nothing more.
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by rfloh on
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Hey now.
My brain’s already clean. And remember that you’re talking to people here, not dogs or pigeons.
FJM Got down on Eckstein because he was an okay player made into a minor demigod by a flukey October performance.
I liked his ability to get on base and provide acceptable defense at short before those abilities started deteriorating. Now he’s a walking media cliche.
by oldjacket on
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I apologise.
Who makes him out as a minor demigod or a walking media cliche? Where’s the media clamour for their local teams to sign Eckstein to a big contract? Where’s the media clamour that Eckstein is a great underrated player?
It’s FJM and “statheads” influenced by it who have made him into a walking media cliche.
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by rfloh on
Nov 2, 2008 12:13 AM PDT
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There were an absolute ton of articles written about him post-2006, that were positively taken from a single mad libs sheet. I could go find them all, but trust me, it would bore the crap out of both of us. Just take my word for it.
The only point I wanted to make was that if someone is making a joke about Eckstein’s media image, I wouldn’t assume that this person doesn’t think Eckstein wasn’t a useful player in his day.
by oldjacket on
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FJM has made him into a walking media cliche by…pointing out that he’s a walking media cliche?
That’s really all they ever did, for the record.
There’s more, but I think you get the idea. It was bad, sloppy journalism.
He was absolutely a walking cliche, with or without FJM. Oh, and media clamor about how great Eckstein is? How about 10th best free agent contract in baseball history clamor?
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by groug on
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Thank you for making my point.
Let’s take your 1st link.
From FJM,
Thinking — and acting — outside the box
provide some of the fire the team lacked last season
shortstop for two World Series champion teams in the last six seasons
Willie Randolph, an admirer of Eckstein’s spunk,
MVP of the Cardinals’ 2006 World Series champion team
overcome a modest arm to play regularly or almost regularly
Because of injuries
Despite the games missed
Eckstein is widely recognized as one of baseball’s foremost gamers.
source of the grit and resolve their team lacked last season
Eckstein would provide some of the fire Paul Lo Duca provided in his two seasons
Eckstein is thought to be seeking a four-year contract worth $36 million
his defense deteriorated last season
Eckstein played fewer innings, 943 2/3, in 2007 than in any other season and committed a career-high 20 errors
a master of the contentious at-bat
Notice that nowhere in the list that FJM pulled from the article they’re attacking is that the claim that Eckstein is a star calibre player or anything like that.
And incidentally, FJM pulled out the worst aspects of that article. The article itself had many more qualifiers in it.
And the rest of the articles you’re linking are all in the same mold. Some people like the fact that Eckstein is small, and “gritty”. Big freaking deal. Most of them seem to understand that even though they like that he’s small, and “gritty”, he’s a decent averagish player, nothing more.
So one guy, one guy who isn’t even a regular baseball writer, calls Eckstein the 10th best FA contract in baseball, and it’s “clamour”? Jeff Gordon isn’t a national baseball writer like Rosenthal, Gammons, Stark. He’s not a national broadcaster like Morgan. He has no MVP vote. He doesn’t even cover baseball regularly.
Thank you for making my point that FJM, and fans of FJM, have made him into a walking media cliche.
It’s FJM that is bad and sloppy journalism.
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by rfloh on
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So one guy, one guy who isn’t even a regular baseball writer, calls Eckstein the 10th best FA contract in baseball, and it’s "clamour"? Jeff Gordon isn’t a national baseball writer like Rosenthal, Gammons, Stark. He’s not a national broadcaster like Morgan. He has no MVP vote.
You know who do have MVP votes? People who vote for the MVP. And they had Eckstein as the 21st most valuable player in the NL in 2005, ahead of guys like Roy Oswalt , Ken Griffey Jr, and Roger Clemens (who had over 200 IP of sub-2.00 ERA). In 2002 he was 11th (!), ahead of obviously superior guys like Ichiro and Eric Chavez, and tied with Nomar Garciaparra, another SS, who out OPSed Eckstein by 129 points. Eckstein is also a two time All Star. Is FJM responsible for all of that?
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
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21st most valuable?
11th? That’s “evidence”?
It’s pretty fairly common for some voters to give a nod, at the back of their ballot, to hometown players, players they like etc.
Since you mention Chavez, he finished 21st in MVP voting in 2005. In front of Grady Sizemore. SHOCK ! HORROR
! Should I expect FJM to start snarking about Chavez?
Furthermore, it’s not clear that Ichiro was OBVIOUSLY superior to Eckstein in 2002. Offensively, Ichiro was maybe a couple runs better. And until very recently, as in before 2007, Eckstein was a good defensive SS.
Also, that Eckstein was voted higher than Oswalt, or Clemens, isn’t evidence that Eckstein is overrated. It’s evidence that voters have some stupid hangups about voting pitchers as MVP. Pedro Martinez didn’t win MVP when he should have in 1999 and 2000. Was that also Eckstein’s fault?
Eckstein clearly wasn’t deserving of being an AS selection in 2006. He was very good defensively, however. And was overall still an above average SS.
2005? It’s very debateable. Rollins was selected. Furcal was not better than Eckstein in the 1st half, and only outperformed Eckstein slightly overall. Felipe Lopez was selected. A 99 OPS+ from a SS is pretty damn good. Especially one who was above average defensively. Who else in your opinion, was more deserving than Eckstein in 2005
Incidentally, there have been many worse AS selections than Eckstein in 2006. So, why the focus on Eckstein?
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by rfloh on
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Furthermore, it’s not clear that Ichiro was OBVIOUSLY superior to Eckstein in 2002. Offensively, Ichiro was maybe a couple runs better. And until very recently, as in before 2007, Eckstein was a good defensive SS.
Once you’ve made positional adjustments, Ichiro is about 5 runs better offensively. Eckstein was a pretty good defensive SS, but far from an elite one. Ichiro was, and still is, a fantastic defensive RF. I would say that it’s pretty obvious that Ichiro was better.
2005? It’s very debateable. Rollins was selected. Furcal was not better than Eckstein in the 1st half, and only outperformed Eckstein slightly overall. Felipe Lopez was selected. A 99 OPS+ from a SS is pretty damn good. Especially one who was above average defensively. Who else in your opinion, was more deserving than Eckstein in 2005?
Lopez was a reserve, while Eckstein was the starting SS, even though Lopez had a much better first half.
David Eckstein is, or at least had been until recently, an OK player. A lot of people in the media like to write articles about him because he is small, has 2 WS rings, and went 3 for 4 or something in that one playoff game. The people at FJM like to make fun of these articles, because they are unoriginal, lazy, and often times overvalue Eckstein. And, mainly, because it’s an easy way to get a cheap laugh, which is, after all, what FJM is all about. I agree that we’ve probably come to the point where Eckstein is now underrated among the so called statheads. Similar thing happened with Abreu – everybody was saying how he’s an underrated player, and now he’s probably overrated. But I don’t see how you could claim that FJM and it’s “followers” have single-handedly turned him into the media cliche that he is now.
Also, you’re a smart guy. And it seems that you’re a kind of an “enlightened” stat head, who isn’t afraid to go against the SABR dogma. Cool. No need for snarky comments directed towards the normal, brainwashed statheads, though.
kthx.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
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UZR isn't free.
And UZR generally agrees with zone rating.
Vizquel’s D did make up for his offense in 2007. Offensively, BPro had him about 20 runs below the average in 2007. An averaged RZR and zone rating had him at around 20 runs ABOVE average defensively in 2007.
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by rfloh on
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- isn’t a horrible idea addresses a need while using something that we wouldnt be too hurt losing (we are all in agreement replacing winn with shierholtz could produce similar results). All the rest of the “ideas” are questionable I would prefer cheap low commitments in the bullpen then if they fail who cares. anyone like the idea of Mark Prior? anyone know what he might cost?
by HitorMisch on Nov 1, 2008 1:08 PM PDT 0 recs
Prior could be an intriguing choice. He’ll probably be cheap and could take a one year contract.
by Natto on
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Any money given to Prior is wasted and better spent on a below-average bullpen arm.
by cornball on
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meant #2 not 1 my bad should have previewed!! or read what I wrote
by HitorMisch on Nov 1, 2008 1:09 PM PDT 0 recs
I doubt Vizquel will outplay Burriss next year, he certainly didn’t this year.
I don’t know how we know that Frandsen is just a utility guy. It seems like we could use this year to figure that out.
Money spent on the pen is usually wasted. And how many lefties do we need?
I do like Fontenot, but I’m not really sure what the Cubs would want for him. Onthe surface, the Winn trade makes sense, but I’m not sure that the Cubs are the type of organization that would appreciate Randy’s subtle skillset.
by oldjacket on Nov 1, 2008 1:24 PM PDT 0 recs
1. SF needs to find a SS. Not yet sold on Manny Burriss either offensively or defensively. Would consider Rafael Furcal on an incentive laden deal, Jack Wilson in trade or possibly an Angels SS.
2. Give Frandsen an opportunity.
3. Unload Rowand. White Sox need a CF and want to unload Paul Konerko. Trade a big contract for smaller contract. Yankees and Phils could also use an upgrade.
4. Got to be careful here. Juan Cruz, Brian Fuentes and Kerry Wood are Type A free agents and would cost second round pick. Kick tires on Joe Biemel, Brandon Lyons and others are Type B free agents so would not lose a draft pick. Could see Sabean trading for a veteran relief pitcher.
5. Prefer not to trade pitching, however, Brian Sabean should consider all offers that will improve the team in the long run. Take a flyer on Barry Zito buddy Mark Mulder or Mark Prior. Kick the tires on Freddy Garcia or trade for Edwin Jackson.
by wilriv21 on Nov 1, 2008 1:42 PM PDT 0 recs
Could see Sabean trading for a veteran relief pitcher
Alan Embree is available…
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by bgunn on
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that first sentence made me cringe.
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by stealth snail on Nov 1, 2008 1:45 PM PDT 0 recs
Vizquel
I’ve been saying ever since Omar signed the last contract that the only reason they structured it the way they did and paid so much was to make it clear to Omar they want him in the organization when he’s done. He’d done and I still expect to see an announcement this winter or next that he’s going to join the organization.
by NearestNorwich on Nov 1, 2008 3:25 PM PDT 0 recs
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